this is no exercise for chest, look at the footprint that Boyer Coe is doing, neutral footprint, if you look well the major focus is for the triceps, who studies biomechanics know what I'm talking about!
@scarlatticostaN offence mate, but if you have ever used one of these machines you will most definatly feel it in your chest, believe me! You muscles feel like elastic bands being stretched and relaxed and despite not involving other stabilizing muscles like free weight equivelantts the contstant tension given by the correctly designed cams means they knock the shit out of you more than the traditional exercises. Best thing of all, NO stress on joints!
I was wrong in my opinion, the glenohumeral joint Boyer is slightly abducted, and a pectoralis major work of this exercise, the movement is safe for the shoulder joint, thanks!
@iflyboats What most people don't realize is that Jones did not advocate taking every workout to total failure. He would use "maintenance" workouts at times where you would stop sets about 2 reps short of failure. Kinda like active rest. Jones had guys train a body part 2-3 times per week. To go to failure with a body part that often would lead to overtraining unless you were juiced.
@TheGreenLanternLives Spot on; in fact, the effects on joints and long-term injuries from training to failure is curiously underplayed.
Saw a really interesting bodybuilding documentary which reckoned get in an out within an hour. Go back later if necessary, but within an hour you've used up all available energy for the muscle, pack bags, go home and rest. Just started doing that myself, it's had some surprising results. Keep mixing it up.
step up to a 45o dude! o and if you had the balls and new what it ment to train to musclur failer! you would find growth! we are talking productive,progresive resistance! its a old vid on showing how to use it,!!!! you would of shit your self if push h/d style boy!
Im all for the more is not better idea but... come on.. like your muscles are really going to grow from one set please... i dont care how intense it is one all out set isn't enough..
If you eat enough, and train to absolute failure (not concentric....im talking dorian yates blood and guts type training ie eccentric failure) you body has no other choice but to grow. But if your a beginner, its a different story.
the mentzers training Coe is amazingly funny, do not know why. maybe seeing the 2 mentzers with similar moustaches and glasses as coach training a tired looking Coe is the reason
arthur jones would kick your ass you fucking steroid taking bitch i bet you even you managed get a girl desprate enough to like you you couldnt get it up.
Fucktard isn't a word you stupid fuck, Arthur Jones is dead but even in his old age he would have ripped your small floppy dick off and rammed down your mouth
Instead of fucking training in a gym all day and taking steroids you should try and get a girlfriend you fucking faggot it must be all the semen getting pumped up your arse you steroid taking small cocked bitch
I agree. DXvsnWo1 is one of those guys who just says anything to be cruel..online. I can't stand people like him ruining the comments section of videos. Anyone who goes online to bash someone anonymously must be extremely insecure.
@DXvsnWo1 hey why not watch your tone of talk. Their are young people watching these videos and they don't need to know garbge like this from a fowled mouthed animal.
whats really funny is that i only replyed to you to try and piss you off , it worked i knew you would be stupid and insecure just wanted to make sure fack is you give shit on the internet put in real life you wouldnt say boo to me you sad fuck
These just look like regular reps here. No HIT stuff, ultra slow negatives like the Mentzers preach. Boyer looking real small here too.Obviously off the juice.
I would luv to have access to old school Nautilus machines, like duo-squat, 70 degree shoulder, omni-bicep, rotary torso (like a pullover to the side and behind the back with elbows against the pads.) Those machines had unique movements that do not duplicate barbell exercises. Those movements would be great for sports too, because you would be working in multi-plane paths like in real life. Nautilus is now commercial like any other company. BTW HIT works!
Check out Chuckchiis comment.He's trying to tell a Mr America that he wasn't a successful trainer.Chuckchii just continues to embarass himself...pretty sad.
The only thing you have achieved Chuky cheese is making yourself look like a complete idiot posting stupid comments like this one.Stick to training in your basement in Norway...your services aren't required.
Ray's arms. Damn!
frazetta70 1 year ago 8
Dos leyendas.
Boyer Coe un tanto mas conocido
que Ray Mentzer.
Ray tambien tenia calidad Olympia.
2 Leyends.
astroshou 1 year ago
rays arms were freaking massive
afterthefact15 1 year ago 6
this is no exercise for chest, look at the footprint that Boyer Coe is doing, neutral footprint, if you look well the major focus is for the triceps, who studies biomechanics know what I'm talking about!
scarlatticosta 1 year ago
@scarlatticostaN offence mate, but if you have ever used one of these machines you will most definatly feel it in your chest, believe me! You muscles feel like elastic bands being stretched and relaxed and despite not involving other stabilizing muscles like free weight equivelantts the contstant tension given by the correctly designed cams means they knock the shit out of you more than the traditional exercises. Best thing of all, NO stress on joints!
wyndley1 1 month ago
@wyndley1
I was wrong in my opinion, the glenohumeral joint Boyer is slightly abducted, and a pectoralis major work of this exercise, the movement is safe for the shoulder joint, thanks!
scarlatticosta 1 month ago
What the hell is this. He just does an arbitray number of repetitions and does not train to failure.
iflyboats 1 year ago
@iflyboats What most people don't realize is that Jones did not advocate taking every workout to total failure. He would use "maintenance" workouts at times where you would stop sets about 2 reps short of failure. Kinda like active rest. Jones had guys train a body part 2-3 times per week. To go to failure with a body part that often would lead to overtraining unless you were juiced.
TheGreenLanternLives 1 year ago
@TheGreenLanternLives Spot on; in fact, the effects on joints and long-term injuries from training to failure is curiously underplayed.
Saw a really interesting bodybuilding documentary which reckoned get in an out within an hour. Go back later if necessary, but within an hour you've used up all available energy for the muscle, pack bags, go home and rest. Just started doing that myself, it's had some surprising results. Keep mixing it up.
reubs80 1 year ago
cr250!
step up to a 45o dude! o and if you had the balls and new what it ment to train to musclur failer! you would find growth! we are talking productive,progresive resistance! its a old vid on showing how to use it,!!!! you would of shit your self if push h/d style boy!
MrHeavyDutynz 1 year ago
Im all for the more is not better idea but... come on.. like your muscles are really going to grow from one set please... i dont care how intense it is one all out set isn't enough..
CR250RidR 1 year ago
@CR250RidR
If you eat enough, and train to absolute failure (not concentric....im talking dorian yates blood and guts type training ie eccentric failure) you body has no other choice but to grow. But if your a beginner, its a different story.
mohammad112388 1 year ago
This is the worst training i've ever seen. He locks out on every rep and not focus on the negative. I wonder what they want to achieve with that.
TryhardGetit 1 year ago
is this video from 1983 ?
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boils2 2 years ago
the mentzers training Coe is amazingly funny, do not know why. maybe seeing the 2 mentzers with similar moustaches and glasses as coach training a tired looking Coe is the reason
kingnek 2 years ago
Damn Ray has got some arms! Where's the rest of the videos?
1blueeyes1980 2 years ago
is it me or has ray got a huge ass
DXvsnWo1 2 years ago
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steroidR4bigmen 2 years ago
lol he could have done 10 more ahahah
Battery9876 2 years ago
I met him what a asshole. still has that wig.
heavybows 2 years ago
coe has poor gentics, but 10/10 for trying
dfcvda 2 years ago
thats a coole machine, i wonder why its in a neutral grip tho?
JDilla2812 2 years ago
boyer was trim in this vid
ronyboy40 2 years ago
yes boyer lousey genetics.
heavybows 2 years ago
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steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
SteroidsR4losers moms ass hurts from all the pounding I gave her!
steroidR4bigmen 2 years ago
arthur jones would kick your ass you fucking steroid taking bitch i bet you even you managed get a girl desprate enough to like you you couldnt get it up.
DXvsnWo1 2 years ago
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steroidR4bigmen 2 years ago
arthur jones would make you cry like the bitch you are i bet your are virgin who spends all day in a gym so you can be close to other men.
DXvsnWo1 2 years ago
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steroidR4bigmen 2 years ago
Fucktard isn't a word you stupid fuck, Arthur Jones is dead but even in his old age he would have ripped your small floppy dick off and rammed down your mouth
DXvsnWo1 2 years ago
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steroidR4bigmen 2 years ago
hey arsehole you should ask vietnamese whore mom about me ive fucked her you little gook fuck
DXvsnWo1 2 years ago
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steroidR4bigmen 2 years ago
Instead of fucking training in a gym all day and taking steroids you should try and get a girlfriend you fucking faggot it must be all the semen getting pumped up your arse you steroid taking small cocked bitch
DXvsnWo1 2 years ago
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steroidR4bigmen 2 years ago
DXvsn ur pathetic, i pity ur sad life
tedkamble 2 years ago
I agree. DXvsnWo1 is one of those guys who just says anything to be cruel..online. I can't stand people like him ruining the comments section of videos. Anyone who goes online to bash someone anonymously must be extremely insecure.
oratorman 2 years ago
@DXvsnWo1 hey why not watch your tone of talk. Their are young people watching these videos and they don't need to know garbge like this from a fowled mouthed animal.
mrright911 1 year ago
how much do you weigh your probably a skinny nip
DXvsnWo1 2 years ago
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steroidR4bigmen 2 years ago
whats really funny is that i only replyed to you to try and piss you off , it worked i knew you would be stupid and insecure just wanted to make sure fack is you give shit on the internet put in real life you wouldnt say boo to me you sad fuck
DXvsnWo1 2 years ago
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steroidR4bigmen 2 years ago
These just look like regular reps here. No HIT stuff, ultra slow negatives like the Mentzers preach. Boyer looking real small here too.Obviously off the juice.
nenzi671 2 years ago
Holy shit how strong is Boyer "The Ragin' Cajun" Coe? he's ifting most of the fucking stack!
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steroidsR4losers 3 years ago
I would luv to have access to old school Nautilus machines, like duo-squat, 70 degree shoulder, omni-bicep, rotary torso (like a pullover to the side and behind the back with elbows against the pads.) Those machines had unique movements that do not duplicate barbell exercises. Those movements would be great for sports too, because you would be working in multi-plane paths like in real life. Nautilus is now commercial like any other company. BTW HIT works!
mk60068 3 years ago
Wow, and imagine if he became tired before the six, and had forgotten to press the leg thing.
Elmeromero1 3 years ago
those machines look like medievel torture devices
notjustin 3 years ago 14
@notjustin lol
indieKook 1 year ago
@notjustin
But they worked better than the crap we see today in the corporate gym franchises.
OtorresFitness 1 year ago 8
they were the best back then. Some of them in design are still the best!
Bigturns33 2 months ago
Coe looks like an intermediate here being trained by Ray.
SYNERGISTIC123 3 years ago
Check out Chuckchiis comment.He's trying to tell a Mr America that he wasn't a successful trainer.Chuckchii just continues to embarass himself...pretty sad.
spade121981 3 years ago
Yes, they never "sucheeded". Training too hard? No such thing.
SYNERGISTIC123 3 years ago
I guess according to chucky cheese Ray and Boyer would have been more succesful training under chuck's watchful eye hahahhahahaha LOL
spade121981 3 years ago
Yes, they could have stayed at home on the couch, watching tv while curling 5lb dumbbells for 3 hours. LOL
SYNERGISTIC123 3 years ago
Yeah 10-4 on that.Chucky always knows whats best...Im surprised he wasn't the one standing there with the clipboard instead of Ray.hahahhahahhaha
spade121981 3 years ago
Look at how small Coe looks next to Ray, Ray would look just as small next to Chucki no doubt...
SYNERGISTIC123 3 years ago
Yeah LOL...probably chucky wouldn't fit in the picture.
spade121981 3 years ago
I love these old school HIT videos! They were way ahead of the day.
Mike and Ray RIP
uncleavi2002 3 years ago 9
Actually, Ray Mentzer never really sucheeded as a Personal Trainer, because he trained his clients too hard. They never made much progress.
Chukchii 3 years ago
The only thing you have achieved Chuky cheese is making yourself look like a complete idiot posting stupid comments like this one.Stick to training in your basement in Norway...your services aren't required.
spade121981 3 years ago