I love the way men always try and tell women what they can do with their bodies : "Don't get tattoos, I hate them!" Are we really supposed to give a shit and not do the things we want to just because of what you might think? Guys are so self-absorbed and think the sun rises and sets out of their own asses. I'm getting a half-sleeve one day, I'm a female, and I don't give a damn what any guy thinks of it one way or the other, and bravo to every other woman who wants a tat and goes and gets it.
It FUCKING SUCKS that so many women are getting tattoos these days. To me NOTHING beats seeing soft, flawless skin of women being completely bare and free of tattoos. That's sooooo much hotter and sexier than the stupid tats that are on chicks everywhere these days.
Why oh why do women have to ruin the perfect work of mother nature? =(
@JDubs878 thats extremeley one sided ever thought of other reasons as to why people may choose have a tattoo other than to look Hot? it's generally meant to be a form of self expression, or it is a testament to past memories or past away famly and friends :P
I'm so happy for these women, they have the strength to express themselves in the way they feel most compelled to do. This is payback for those little girls with deformed and crooked feet. That inevitably also crushed and deformed there little souls.
New Zealand police still have an Asian Crime Unit, but it is used mainly in an intelligence-gathering capacity. It works closely with Auckland Metro Crime and Operations Support and the Organised and Financial Crime Agency NZ squads.
The triads organise the shipments in Hong Kong (or the mainland), often hidden inside large shipping containers, which are freighted to New Zealand. Hundreds of kilograms of meth or Contac NT are smuggled in sacks of cement, and often in tins of paint.
New Zealand police say Hong Kong's 14K gang is the most powerful Asian crime group in the country. "The money is on another scale. For police, it's the money in the Asian crime that has stunned us," Cahill said. "Young guys driving around in NZ$100,000 (HK$564,000) cars, 18- to 22-year-olds with NZ$20,000 cash in their pockets. An apartment with NZ$1 million in it. That sort of money."
Organised crime groups the 14K, Sun Yee On, Water Room, and Big Circle Gang all have a presence in the country and most recently gangsters from Fujian have become prominent. They work with New Zealand's most powerful organised crime groups, the Headhunters and Hells Angels, buying and selling the addictive hyper-stimulant.
The triads organise the shipments in Hong Kong (or the mainland), often hidden inside large shipping containers, which are freighted to New Zealand. Hundreds of kilograms of meth or Contac NT are smuggled in sacks of cement, and often in tins of paint.
Last month, New Zealand customs broke up a drug ring that smuggled up to NZ$17 million (HK$97 million) worth of pseudoephedrine, which arrived over 12 months at Auckland International Airport in machine parts imported from Hong Kong.
New Zealand police say Hong Kong's 14K gang is the most powerful Asian crime group in the country. "The money is on another scale. For police, it's the money in the Asian crime that has stunned us," Cahill said. "Young guys driving around in NZ$100,000 (HK$564,000) cars, 18- to 22-year-olds with NZ$20,000 cash in their pockets. An apartment with NZ$1 million in it. That sort of money."
"Commodity is power," Detective Senior Sergeant Chris Cahill, of the Auckland Metro Crime Squad told The New Zealand Herald. "The Asians have the commodity. So they have control."
Organised crime groups the 14K, Sun Yee On, Water Room, and Big Circle Gang all have a presence in the country and most recently gangsters from Fujian have become prominent. They work with New Zealand's most powerful organised crime groups, the Headhunters and Hells Angels, buying and selling the addictive hyper-stimulant.
everything you said was WRONG. it has NOTHING to do with Interpol. the police ARE working together. they ARE importing things from HK. the triads ARE based in HK.
etc. etc. etc. now stop embarrassing yourself you clown.
Gangland connections between Hong Kong and New Zealand's gangs go back almost 20 years.
In 1996 Ricky Yan Siu-ho was named by New Zealand police as the head of the country's 14K triad group and as a co-conspirator in a plot to kill an anti-triad detective.
It was claimed by a New Zealand parliamentary select committee that, as "leader" of the 14K, Yan conspired to kill Wellington Asian Crime Unit Sergeant Api Fiso with leaders of New Zealand's infamous Mongrel Mob.
though arrests have been made the bigger players remain free, probably overseas.
"We're not naive enough to think that we understand the problem," Cahill said. "I am sure that there are much bigger players that we will arrest in the future."
Neither the Hong Kong police nor the Customs and Excise Department would say whether they were aware of the situation. They would only say that they were working with counterparts to fight trafficking of drugs and precursor chemicals for making drugs.
The triads organise the shipments in Hong Kong (or the mainland), often hidden inside large shipping containers, which are freighted to New Zealand. Hundreds of kilograms of meth or Contac NT are smuggled in sacks of cement, and often in tins of paint.
Last month, New Zealand customs broke up a drug ring that smuggled up to NZ$17 million (HK$97 million) worth of pseudoephedrine, which arrived over 12 months at Auckland International Airport in machine parts imported from Hong Kong.
New Zealand police say Hong Kong's 14K gang is the most powerful Asian crime group in the country. "The money is on another scale. For police, it's the money in the Asian crime that has stunned us," Cahill said. "Young guys driving around in NZ$100,000 (HK$564,000) cars, 18- to 22-year-olds with NZ$20,000 cash in their pockets. An apartment with NZ$1 million in it. That sort of money."
Organised crime groups the 14K, Sun Yee On, Water Room, and Big Circle Gang all have a presence in the country.
Detective Senior Sergeant Chris Cahill, of the Auckland Metro Crime Squad told The New Zealand Herald. "The Asians have the commodity. So they have control."
@angryaznman triads dont have tattoos. Having a tattoo is considered a bad thing over there.
I think youre confusing Triad with Yakuza. In many ways they have completely opposite views on things.
Also there isnt that much organized crime activity in HK, its spread much further than that. As everywhere else - OC has got into the government and is basically safe.
P.S. Triad or Yakuza are not some street gangs anyway (used to be, but not anymore). Its a general term for OC.
HK generally was the place for illegal activity, so people thought, due to its free market and harbor. However, take any other major port in China and youll see a LOT more stuff going down there.
Why? Because its easier than HK.
For decades triads are now one of the leading organized crime groups WORLD WIDE not just in HK. HK and Guangdong is just where it started out, nothing more.
Mafia, Sicily is where it started out but most actions go down in the US.
@Buuub08 "Organised crime groups the 14K, Sun Yee On, Water Room, and Big Circle Gang all have a presence in the country and most recently gangsters from Fujian have become prominent."
these are found all over the world but based in Hong Kong.
but then again, im talking to a retard who says "just because they say HK triads doesnt mean they are in HK".
you think HK triads is just a term for organized crime. WRONG.
So you think that like 500'000 mobsters live in HK and no one notices them? Youre a retard.
HK was only a base of operation at a certain point. And if you love wiki so much - read up where the Triads actually come from, its not HK.
Yes it is a term, just as Yakuza, Mafia, Bratva etc. There are groups that ID themselves as being part of them but there is NO DEFINITION what makes such, thus its only a term.
Listen kid, just educate yourself before speaking ok?
Im not saying OC isnt present in HK anymore, dumbfuck. Dont put your bs into my statements, k.
As every other major city HK surely has OC. But HK itself has NOTHING to offer, NOTHING AT ALL. The only actual criminal action possible there is local drug sale, IMPORT not export. And that would be a few 1000 people of different levels.
How about you visit Chinese communities in the UK or US and then think about Traids being limited to HK again?
@Buuub08 you are an idiot. the biggest triads are ALL Hong Kong triads. of course they expand to other chinese communities.
you think you know shit but you dont. simple fact is if you had any clue at all, you would know the biggest and most powerful triads are Sun Yee On, 14k.
these HONG KONG based triads, are exactly the ones in chinese communities everywhere.
not stop faking. you dont know shit about triads. you are some sort of lame wannabe.
@Buuub08 of course, i wont let you off for the main topic. you are some brainless americans, you dont know SHIT about hong kong.
哈哈, 你想扮香港人?
what a little faker you are. any hker can spot your fake american ass a mile away. you have NO credibility. tatoos are definitely taboo because of gang links.
@angryaznman Article.. lol. Yeah, so all your knowledge comes from an article?
Look up history kid, Triads did NOT originate in HK, they WENT to HK and were based there initially. But to date HK is of NO actual value. Some big shots might live there but there are NO operations going down in HK as HK produces NOTHING, its entirely a consumer society. Name me ONE thing HK could use for illegal operations. The only thing it has is the free economy which allows market manipulations.
And since the connections expand all over the world you can NOT say that they are based in HK, as the quite frankly are based all over the world. You pathetic insult attempts make you look like an idiot actually.
I know plenty of OC and law enforcement all over the world tried to lock most of them down, although thats just a puppet show mostly. And international OC, like Triads, are the main reason structures like Interpol were made.
k, you are like, the dumbest person to ever reply to me. how many big companies have bases all over the world? people in india can work for microsoft, but microsoft is still an american based company.
Not that i didnt understand what "哈哈, 你想扮香港人" means btw.
But Chinese isnt my first language you know and no im not pretending to be from HK, i never claimed i was. Your just making shit up again. Thats pretty retared actually.
I do speak a little Mandarin though, something i picked up living in BJ.
yet you magically think you are right about things in HONG KONG. against a person from there.
please stop embarrassing yourself. you are just dumb. its actually annoying to keep explaining things to you.
you never once put a single source of proof while i did. but you criticized mine? you fool, its a news article that reports REALITY. there is nothing wrong with it. NZ police chief was quoted dumbass.
Yeah i get what youre getting at. But the thing is HK for Triads would be like Bill Gates collage dorm. Its where they started off the big game but thats NOT where things go down these days. HK simply has NOTHING TO WORK WITH. Try to get that tru, ok? OC of any sort needs something to be built upon and HK has NOTHING of that sort.
I admitted not be from HK. Yeah i never claimed to be from there in the first place so wtf dude?
Not magically, i said previously i know how those things work. And its not POLICE that deals with international OC its Interpol. Interpol exists for that purpose as the police authority is limited to a specific area. Try at least to look up basic things kid. Calling me dumb after that makes you look silly actually.
Want a source? Look up Interpol. What it is, why it was made and what it does.
And then think again about saying NZ POLICE works with HK POLICE in this matter. Its not the POLICE. Its law-enforcement still but not the POLICE.
Whoever wrote the article is a pretty average journalist with highly limited knowledge about how these things work. Seems to work for the uneducated part of society (e.g. You).
Also i find it weird that you supposedly being Chinese dont know what Chinese think tattoos.
Street gangs tend to have tattoos, so do my girlfriends, and various sorts of people for various reasons. Chinese are simply conservative about having them. And if you didnt know - having a tattoo in a conservative society is considered humiliating.
OC groups such as Triads, Yakuza, Bratva, Mafia etc are highly conservative and have endless rules. Triads in particular, just as Yakuza, are known to be very strict and even 'traditional'. And traditionally the Chinese DETEST tattoos.
Just because some Chinese crack selling street scum is tattooed from head to toes doesnt mean Triads have tattoos. In fact if you look up - they do NOT have them.
The police is suspicious of people having tattoos, thats the same EVERYWHERE, in case you didnt know. But that doesnt mean everyone with a tattoo is a mobster. Could be your average street scum, a junkie, punk whatever, or just a dude who likes tattoos, or even an artist. Nothing to do with Triads or OC of any sort.
dude, just accept it. you are WRONG. you dont know wtf you are talking about. you dont know shit about triads in HK. i am a hong konger. you are some fake wannabe know it all.
stop making yourself look stupid blabbing about dorm rooms and interpol. fukn idiot.
@angryaznman For a HKer and a Chinese youre pretty dumb what considers Chinese and HK related affairs.
There are no shipments of anything going from HK as that is too much bother, youve got double border checks in that case. Its easier from the mainland, one doesnt need to be a genius to figure that out.
And one more thing - STREET GANGS are not Triads.
For example the entire Russian OC WORLDWIDE consists of roughly 150 people, the rest are expendable scum and NOT a part of the organization.
The dorm part was pretty relevant as it is exactly what HK is for Traids and the famous gangs. Its where they started to make a name for themselves due to the free HK economy. But they neither stay there nor originate there, they just WERE there. So, by your own logic, your explanation of the word "based" doesnt indicate to HK either as nearly none of the gangs originated in HK.
So, explain, in what way would they be "based" in HK if they WENT to HK and 80% of their activity is in the west.
For example your beloved 14K gang. Why would it be based in HK if it was founded in Guangzhou and it just WENT to HK when the reds started to push on them? And just like they WENT to HK, now they have GONE to Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam, US, UK and God knows else where.
If your understanding of the word "based" is where it started from - its not HK - its GZ then.
And if your understanding of the word is where it pulls of its activities - its not HK either - its everywhere else but HK.
In simple words - your shouldnt believe every detail of some some simple-minded articles that are intended just to pass on the general message. If you dont even have the slightest clue how international organized crime is even dealt with, why do you even start a discussion on a topic you know nothing about? And yet you attempt to insult others when you dont even have a fundamental idea how it works and how far OC goes.
That HK doesnt produce anything? that every 10th person in HK can NOT possibly be a gangster? That there is NO DEFINITION what actually makes a Triad nor who/where the leadership is. You can pull old gang names all you want, they are of no relevance. Most gangs have nothing to do with OC. OC is controlled by multimillion businesses, the heads of which are most likely the Traids, if you like.
The gangs are being called HK, but in reality NONE of them originated in HK. So technically they can be called Guangzhou gangs and most of the people in them are NOT HKers. The leaders can be anywhere in the world. Do you know any and know where they live? I dont think you do. So on what do you base your claim that they LIVE/are based in HK? On nothing but assumptions and stereotypes.
In fact the leadership most likely is in the US. Especially since PRC got HK back from GB. Another thing - the leadership likely also consists of massive companies and even government/law-enforcement officials (as it is everywhere else), thus the actual leadership stays out of reach, attention and suspicion.
For example Norinco, a government owned company, is pulling illegal arms deals. Whos behind that? Certainly not some crackhead from HK.
@Buuub08 LMFAO. k how old are you. really. you debate like a 13 yr old. rambling about interpol again and again when the STATEMENTS are issued by the CHIEFS OF POLICE in w/e district the article is talking about.
@angryaznman I dont need to be from HK to know how OC works, there are far worse places to be and witness that first hand, i grew up in such a place.
I mention Interpol because you obviously have no clue what it is.
Interpol IS ESPECIALLY MADE for international OC due to issues with Police authority being limited to an area. And thus legally if YOU, being from HK, sell meth or whatever in NZ, for example, HK cops cant do shit about it without having higher-ups taking over. Dong le ma?
@Buuub08 this wasnt even about OC. it was about tatoos. you just keep getting things WRONG. im going to keep embarassing you because you opened your mouth about an HK TOPIC when you are NOT an HKER.
so learn from this and dont shoot yourself in the foot again.
@Buuub08 are you just retarded or confused about the issue. who said HK created triads?
i said the biggest triads ARE HK triads. and yes they go all over the world. but that doesnt change anything. like you keep ignoring, its other countries that want to work with HK POLICE because these triads are BASED IN HK.
There is no definition of that. And in fact the biggest ground for Chinese OC is the US followed by the UK.
They are not based in HK, i get the feeling you dont know what the word "based" means. Ill tell you once again - the largest base of Chinese OC (aka traids) is not HK, its first of all major US cities as well as the UK. In fact Triads come in second after Russians in UK.
@angryaznman Companies dont have a "BASE", they have a registration.
Also there is no definition of what the Triad leadership is and where its at.
Yeah it was about tattoos before you tarted pulling bs from some weak articles of no actual relevance. You skipped the tattoo part because you know that Chinese in general do NOT like tattoos and there is no record of what Traid tattoos MIGHT BE, if they even exist.
Don't forget that having tattoos exposed in Hong Kong is sure going to attract A LOT of police attention and countless inspections and ID card checks.
@rebeccajanewhite1982 I AM NOT SUPRISED. YOU SEEM LIKE THE TYPE OF COMMON SKANK THAT WOULD GO FOR THIS CRAP! I BET YOU HAVE (CLASSIC BITCH) TATTOOED ON YOUR ASS!
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If ya gonna get tatted you can't be scared or care what others think
brillowpad1 3 weeks ago
I love the way men always try and tell women what they can do with their bodies : "Don't get tattoos, I hate them!" Are we really supposed to give a shit and not do the things we want to just because of what you might think? Guys are so self-absorbed and think the sun rises and sets out of their own asses. I'm getting a half-sleeve one day, I'm a female, and I don't give a damn what any guy thinks of it one way or the other, and bravo to every other woman who wants a tat and goes and gets it.
SnotRockets55 5 months ago 3
the major thing keeping people away from tattoos isn't the social perception but simply that tattoos are permanent
anyone who cares about his/her own body would think twice before getting one
bunknail 6 months ago
good
pembalutnatesh 6 months ago
Retard gooks
savemyplaylist 11 months ago
@savemyplaylist Shut up you fucking RETARDED Americans!!!
vietdude1979 8 months ago
It FUCKING SUCKS that so many women are getting tattoos these days. To me NOTHING beats seeing soft, flawless skin of women being completely bare and free of tattoos. That's sooooo much hotter and sexier than the stupid tats that are on chicks everywhere these days.
Why oh why do women have to ruin the perfect work of mother nature? =(
JDubs878 1 year ago 6
@JDubs878 thats extremeley one sided ever thought of other reasons as to why people may choose have a tattoo other than to look Hot? it's generally meant to be a form of self expression, or it is a testament to past memories or past away famly and friends :P
ChrisTheBible 5 months ago
@JDubs878
a small one like a swallow bird or flower is okay, not a big ass mural all over the back .
bigfatdick5000 2 months ago
Great, you can be just as fuckin trashy as us Americans without the trailer park or mullet.
pwkid 1 year ago 2
This is the future whether you like it or not.
This is the future whether you see it or not.
This is the truth whether you accept it or not.
This is Globalization.
I'm so happy for these women, they have the strength to express themselves in the way they feel most compelled to do. This is payback for those little girls with deformed and crooked feet. That inevitably also crushed and deformed there little souls.
NEVERSTOP!
Neverstop302 1 year ago 8
hongkong women should keep their conservative culture of having fucking women stay in their fucking homes
dodoboy1212 1 year ago 2
New Zealand police still have an Asian Crime Unit, but it is used mainly in an intelligence-gathering capacity. It works closely with Auckland Metro Crime and Operations Support and the Organised and Financial Crime Agency NZ squads.
angryaznman 1 year ago
The triads organise the shipments in Hong Kong (or the mainland), often hidden inside large shipping containers, which are freighted to New Zealand. Hundreds of kilograms of meth or Contac NT are smuggled in sacks of cement, and often in tins of paint.
angryaznman 1 year ago
New Zealand police say Hong Kong's 14K gang is the most powerful Asian crime group in the country. "The money is on another scale. For police, it's the money in the Asian crime that has stunned us," Cahill said. "Young guys driving around in NZ$100,000 (HK$564,000) cars, 18- to 22-year-olds with NZ$20,000 cash in their pockets. An apartment with NZ$1 million in it. That sort of money."
angryaznman 1 year ago
Organised crime groups the 14K, Sun Yee On, Water Room, and Big Circle Gang all have a presence in the country and most recently gangsters from Fujian have become prominent. They work with New Zealand's most powerful organised crime groups, the Headhunters and Hells Angels, buying and selling the addictive hyper-stimulant.
angryaznman 1 year ago
read again retard
Asian drug links reach south with meth deals, HK triads working with New Zealand gangsters
John Carney
Sep 12, 2010
Hong Kong triads are working with some of New Zealand's most notorious crime gangs to cash in on the country's growing methamphetamine business.
angryaznman 1 year ago
anyone that can read can see REALITY contradicts everything that dumbass thinks. he is a wannabe know it all who got caught arguing with a native.
im calling him on his BULLSHIT and he cant accept it. i even provide proof and he still avoids it like the coward he is.
credibility isnt gained by running away from proof.
angryaznman 1 year ago
The triads organise the shipments in Hong Kong (or the mainland), often hidden inside large shipping containers, which are freighted to New Zealand. Hundreds of kilograms of meth or Contac NT are smuggled in sacks of cement, and often in tins of paint.
Last month, New Zealand customs broke up a drug ring that smuggled up to NZ$17 million (HK$97 million) worth of pseudoephedrine, which arrived over 12 months at Auckland International Airport in machine parts imported from Hong Kong.
angryaznman 1 year ago
New Zealand police say Hong Kong's 14K gang is the most powerful Asian crime group in the country. "The money is on another scale. For police, it's the money in the Asian crime that has stunned us," Cahill said. "Young guys driving around in NZ$100,000 (HK$564,000) cars, 18- to 22-year-olds with NZ$20,000 cash in their pockets. An apartment with NZ$1 million in it. That sort of money."
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman Sorry but here in HK $564,000 is about the price of a VW Polo
crap828 1 year ago
"Commodity is power," Detective Senior Sergeant Chris Cahill, of the Auckland Metro Crime Squad told The New Zealand Herald. "The Asians have the commodity. So they have control."
angryaznman 1 year ago
Organised crime groups the 14K, Sun Yee On, Water Room, and Big Circle Gang all have a presence in the country and most recently gangsters from Fujian have become prominent. They work with New Zealand's most powerful organised crime groups, the Headhunters and Hells Angels, buying and selling the addictive hyper-stimulant.
angryaznman 1 year ago
PROOF Buub08 is fukn clueless. who btw still doesnt ahve a single proof for any of the trash he says.
Asian drug links reach south with meth deals
HK triads working with New Zealand gangsters
John Carney
Sep 12, 2010
angryaznman 1 year ago
everything you said was WRONG. it has NOTHING to do with Interpol. the police ARE working together. they ARE importing things from HK. the triads ARE based in HK.
etc. etc. etc. now stop embarrassing yourself you clown.
angryaznman 1 year ago
read the news you god damn fool.
now everyone can see you dont have a CLUE what you are talking about because even ONE article counters EVERYTHING retarded thing you said.
this is what happens when a FAKER tries to argue with a REAL Chinese.
angryaznman 1 year ago
Gangland connections between Hong Kong and New Zealand's gangs go back almost 20 years.
In 1996 Ricky Yan Siu-ho was named by New Zealand police as the head of the country's 14K triad group and as a co-conspirator in a plot to kill an anti-triad detective.
It was claimed by a New Zealand parliamentary select committee that, as "leader" of the 14K, Yan conspired to kill Wellington Asian Crime Unit Sergeant Api Fiso with leaders of New Zealand's infamous Mongrel Mob.
angryaznman 1 year ago
though arrests have been made the bigger players remain free, probably overseas.
"We're not naive enough to think that we understand the problem," Cahill said. "I am sure that there are much bigger players that we will arrest in the future."
Neither the Hong Kong police nor the Customs and Excise Department would say whether they were aware of the situation. They would only say that they were working with counterparts to fight trafficking of drugs and precursor chemicals for making drugs.
angryaznman 1 year ago
The triads organise the shipments in Hong Kong (or the mainland), often hidden inside large shipping containers, which are freighted to New Zealand. Hundreds of kilograms of meth or Contac NT are smuggled in sacks of cement, and often in tins of paint.
Last month, New Zealand customs broke up a drug ring that smuggled up to NZ$17 million (HK$97 million) worth of pseudoephedrine, which arrived over 12 months at Auckland International Airport in machine parts imported from Hong Kong.
angryaznman 1 year ago
New Zealand police say Hong Kong's 14K gang is the most powerful Asian crime group in the country. "The money is on another scale. For police, it's the money in the Asian crime that has stunned us," Cahill said. "Young guys driving around in NZ$100,000 (HK$564,000) cars, 18- to 22-year-olds with NZ$20,000 cash in their pockets. An apartment with NZ$1 million in it. That sort of money."
angryaznman 1 year ago
FACE THE TRUTH FAKER:
Asian drug links reach south with meth deals
HK triads working with New Zealand gangsters
John Carney
Sep 12, 2010
Organised crime groups the 14K, Sun Yee On, Water Room, and Big Circle Gang all have a presence in the country.
Detective Senior Sergeant Chris Cahill, of the Auckland Metro Crime Squad told The New Zealand Herald. "The Asians have the commodity. So they have control."
angryaznman 1 year ago
in Hong Kong, triads are the ones with tatoos. if you decide to get and expose one, then be prepared for the consequences.
you could have real triads thinking you are a rival, or more likely you will get shit from the police.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman triads dont have tattoos. Having a tattoo is considered a bad thing over there.
I think youre confusing Triad with Yakuza. In many ways they have completely opposite views on things.
Also there isnt that much organized crime activity in HK, its spread much further than that. As everywhere else - OC has got into the government and is basically safe.
P.S. Triad or Yakuza are not some street gangs anyway (used to be, but not anymore). Its a general term for OC.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 you have no clue what you are talking about. like at all.
Asian drug links reach south with meth deals
HK triads working with New Zealand gangsters
John Carney
Sep 12, 2010
thats just a few months ago.
dont talk about things you know nothing about thanks.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman oh i do know what im talking about actually.
Just because someone uses the term "HK triads" doesnt mean Triads reside in HK. Its NOT a gang name, its a TERM. Try to get that thru, ok?
Also HK has NOTHING to offer except for the harbor, it produces NOTHING.
Organized crime has long ago made its way to the top and now involves nearly every form and level of government and law enforcement.
HK was THE place for street gangs, but that was ages ago.
Buuub08 1 year ago
HK generally was the place for illegal activity, so people thought, due to its free market and harbor. However, take any other major port in China and youll see a LOT more stuff going down there.
Why? Because its easier than HK.
For decades triads are now one of the leading organized crime groups WORLD WIDE not just in HK. HK and Guangdong is just where it started out, nothing more.
Mafia, Sicily is where it started out but most actions go down in the US.
Same for Japan, Russia you name it.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 you are an IDIOT.
"HK triads" dont mean they are in HK. what kind of fukn retard are you.
no one said they invented organized crime. you claimed they arent there anymore.
REALITY counters your stupid opinions.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@Buuub08 "Organised crime groups the 14K, Sun Yee On, Water Room, and Big Circle Gang all have a presence in the country and most recently gangsters from Fujian have become prominent."
these are found all over the world but based in Hong Kong.
but then again, im talking to a retard who says "just because they say HK triads doesnt mean they are in HK".
you think HK triads is just a term for organized crime. WRONG.
its a term for 14k, Sun Yee On, BCB etc. etc.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman You just dont get it, do you?
Nice wiki there btw.
So you think that like 500'000 mobsters live in HK and no one notices them? Youre a retard.
HK was only a base of operation at a certain point. And if you love wiki so much - read up where the Triads actually come from, its not HK.
Yes it is a term, just as Yakuza, Mafia, Bratva etc. There are groups that ID themselves as being part of them but there is NO DEFINITION what makes such, thus its only a term.
Buuub08 1 year ago
Listen kid, just educate yourself before speaking ok?
Im not saying OC isnt present in HK anymore, dumbfuck. Dont put your bs into my statements, k.
As every other major city HK surely has OC. But HK itself has NOTHING to offer, NOTHING AT ALL. The only actual criminal action possible there is local drug sale, IMPORT not export. And that would be a few 1000 people of different levels.
How about you visit Chinese communities in the UK or US and then think about Traids being limited to HK again?
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 you are an idiot. the biggest triads are ALL Hong Kong triads. of course they expand to other chinese communities.
you think you know shit but you dont. simple fact is if you had any clue at all, you would know the biggest and most powerful triads are Sun Yee On, 14k.
these HONG KONG based triads, are exactly the ones in chinese communities everywhere.
not stop faking. you dont know shit about triads. you are some sort of lame wannabe.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@Buuub08 of course, i wont let you off for the main topic. you are some brainless americans, you dont know SHIT about hong kong.
哈哈, 你想扮香港人?
what a little faker you are. any hker can spot your fake american ass a mile away. you have NO credibility. tatoos are definitely taboo because of gang links.
now stop embarrassing yourself you faker.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@Buuub08 ahaha you retard. that wasnt from wiki. it was direct QUOTE from the article i posted about New Zealand. just a few months ago.
no, HK is STILL the base of operation. thats why the police force in NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA, CANADA, etc. all work with HONG KONG POLICE.
dumbass.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman Article.. lol. Yeah, so all your knowledge comes from an article?
Look up history kid, Triads did NOT originate in HK, they WENT to HK and were based there initially. But to date HK is of NO actual value. Some big shots might live there but there are NO operations going down in HK as HK produces NOTHING, its entirely a consumer society. Name me ONE thing HK could use for illegal operations. The only thing it has is the free economy which allows market manipulations.
Buuub08 1 year ago
And since the connections expand all over the world you can NOT say that they are based in HK, as the quite frankly are based all over the world. You pathetic insult attempts make you look like an idiot actually.
I know plenty of OC and law enforcement all over the world tried to lock most of them down, although thats just a puppet show mostly. And international OC, like Triads, are the main reason structures like Interpol were made.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 yes i can.
k, you are like, the dumbest person to ever reply to me. how many big companies have bases all over the world? people in india can work for microsoft, but microsoft is still an american based company.
you god damn idiot.
angryaznman 1 year ago
Me a wannabe? A wannabe what?
What makes you think Im American? Jumping conclusions i see. No surprise with your limited understanding of OC.
Sorry i dont speak Cantonese, try Mandarin.
Faker? Im faking what exactly? Kid, you make no sense.
Fake American ass? I never claimed to be American so WTH are you talking about?
Im not saying i have credibility i just know how law enforcement and OC works, which is something you dont.
Gangs and tattoos, ok could be. But gangs and triads are not the same.
Buuub08 1 year ago
Not that i didnt understand what "哈哈, 你想扮香港人" means btw.
But Chinese isnt my first language you know and no im not pretending to be from HK, i never claimed i was. Your just making shit up again. Thats pretty retared actually.
I do speak a little Mandarin though, something i picked up living in BJ.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 yes way to go.
so you just admit you are NOT FROM HONG KONG.
yet you magically think you are right about things in HONG KONG. against a person from there.
please stop embarrassing yourself. you are just dumb. its actually annoying to keep explaining things to you.
you never once put a single source of proof while i did. but you criticized mine? you fool, its a news article that reports REALITY. there is nothing wrong with it. NZ police chief was quoted dumbass.
angryaznman 1 year ago
People from india work for microsoft lol.
Yeah i get what youre getting at. But the thing is HK for Triads would be like Bill Gates collage dorm. Its where they started off the big game but thats NOT where things go down these days. HK simply has NOTHING TO WORK WITH. Try to get that tru, ok? OC of any sort needs something to be built upon and HK has NOTHING of that sort.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 WOW, how do you remember to breathe.
dont reply unless you become more intelligent. college dorm? pick examples that match the situation.
it is like a company going overseas but still BASED IN A COUNTRY.
HK is the triad capital. this is fact. deal with it.
angryaznman 1 year ago
I admitted not be from HK. Yeah i never claimed to be from there in the first place so wtf dude?
Not magically, i said previously i know how those things work. And its not POLICE that deals with international OC its Interpol. Interpol exists for that purpose as the police authority is limited to a specific area. Try at least to look up basic things kid. Calling me dumb after that makes you look silly actually.
Buuub08 1 year ago
Want a source? Look up Interpol. What it is, why it was made and what it does.
And then think again about saying NZ POLICE works with HK POLICE in this matter. Its not the POLICE. Its law-enforcement still but not the POLICE.
Whoever wrote the article is a pretty average journalist with highly limited knowledge about how these things work. Seems to work for the uneducated part of society (e.g. You).
Also i find it weird that you supposedly being Chinese dont know what Chinese think tattoos.
Buuub08 1 year ago
Street gangs tend to have tattoos, so do my girlfriends, and various sorts of people for various reasons. Chinese are simply conservative about having them. And if you didnt know - having a tattoo in a conservative society is considered humiliating.
OC groups such as Triads, Yakuza, Bratva, Mafia etc are highly conservative and have endless rules. Triads in particular, just as Yakuza, are known to be very strict and even 'traditional'. And traditionally the Chinese DETEST tattoos.
Buuub08 1 year ago
Just because some Chinese crack selling street scum is tattooed from head to toes doesnt mean Triads have tattoos. In fact if you look up - they do NOT have them.
The police is suspicious of people having tattoos, thats the same EVERYWHERE, in case you didnt know. But that doesnt mean everyone with a tattoo is a mobster. Could be your average street scum, a junkie, punk whatever, or just a dude who likes tattoos, or even an artist. Nothing to do with Triads or OC of any sort.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08
dude, just accept it. you are WRONG. you dont know wtf you are talking about. you dont know shit about triads in HK. i am a hong konger. you are some fake wannabe know it all.
stop making yourself look stupid blabbing about dorm rooms and interpol. fukn idiot.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman For a HKer and a Chinese youre pretty dumb what considers Chinese and HK related affairs.
There are no shipments of anything going from HK as that is too much bother, youve got double border checks in that case. Its easier from the mainland, one doesnt need to be a genius to figure that out.
And one more thing - STREET GANGS are not Triads.
For example the entire Russian OC WORLDWIDE consists of roughly 150 people, the rest are expendable scum and NOT a part of the organization.
Buuub08 1 year ago
The dorm part was pretty relevant as it is exactly what HK is for Traids and the famous gangs. Its where they started to make a name for themselves due to the free HK economy. But they neither stay there nor originate there, they just WERE there. So, by your own logic, your explanation of the word "based" doesnt indicate to HK either as nearly none of the gangs originated in HK.
So, explain, in what way would they be "based" in HK if they WENT to HK and 80% of their activity is in the west.
Buuub08 1 year ago
The media explains things in ways the general public can understand them. If you really want to know something more you have to look it up yourself.
Seriously, you dont know how media works?
Im 26, if you really want to know. Old enough and from a place fucked-up enough to know what is what.
Buuub08 1 year ago
For example your beloved 14K gang. Why would it be based in HK if it was founded in Guangzhou and it just WENT to HK when the reds started to push on them? And just like they WENT to HK, now they have GONE to Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam, US, UK and God knows else where.
If your understanding of the word "based" is where it started from - its not HK - its GZ then.
And if your understanding of the word is where it pulls of its activities - its not HK either - its everywhere else but HK.
So?
Buuub08 1 year ago
In simple words - your shouldnt believe every detail of some some simple-minded articles that are intended just to pass on the general message. If you dont even have the slightest clue how international organized crime is even dealt with, why do you even start a discussion on a topic you know nothing about? And yet you attempt to insult others when you dont even have a fundamental idea how it works and how far OC goes.
My suggestion - we just leave it at that.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 wrong, you are the one who doesnt know wtf you are talking about. read the article im going to psot again.
so you can see how everyone, including the police chiefs in the subject country, contradict your stupid ass.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman What proof for what trash you need?
That HK doesnt produce anything? that every 10th person in HK can NOT possibly be a gangster? That there is NO DEFINITION what actually makes a Triad nor who/where the leadership is. You can pull old gang names all you want, they are of no relevance. Most gangs have nothing to do with OC. OC is controlled by multimillion businesses, the heads of which are most likely the Traids, if you like.
Buuub08 1 year ago
And the article contradicts what exactly?
The gangs are being called HK, but in reality NONE of them originated in HK. So technically they can be called Guangzhou gangs and most of the people in them are NOT HKers. The leaders can be anywhere in the world. Do you know any and know where they live? I dont think you do. So on what do you base your claim that they LIVE/are based in HK? On nothing but assumptions and stereotypes.
Buuub08 1 year ago
In fact the leadership most likely is in the US. Especially since PRC got HK back from GB. Another thing - the leadership likely also consists of massive companies and even government/law-enforcement officials (as it is everywhere else), thus the actual leadership stays out of reach, attention and suspicion.
For example Norinco, a government owned company, is pulling illegal arms deals. Whos behind that? Certainly not some crackhead from HK.
You dont have a clue how deep such things go.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 again, learn. stop being retarded.
stop avoiding articles that contradict your dumb ass. all the info on the net would clearly state these triads are HK based.
learn to read.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@Buuub08 you retard. BASED means where the leadership is. its ALWAYS meant that, even for international companies.
seriously how dumb are you. the article specifically states that the big leaders are not in new zealand.
you bring up the US.
Wo Hop To, BASED IN HK, sent over a guy to unite all asian gangs in the US.
this is what BASED means retard.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@Buuub08 why spend so much time ignoring actual sources? theres an article right here that debunks all the garbage you believe in.
anyone else can read it, cuz ill REPOST IT. so EVERYONE who reads your dumbass comments can see you are full of shit.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@Buuub08 HAHAHA you dont know what you are talking about.
you probably arent even Chinese. you are out of your element and look stupid arguing against a native.
there are many documentaries in HK about triads. they not only USE TATOOS, but have SPECFIC TATOOS with certain meanings.
including Chinese dragons, Chinese phrases, and so on and so forth.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@Buuub08 LMFAO. k how old are you. really. you debate like a 13 yr old. rambling about interpol again and again when the STATEMENTS are issued by the CHIEFS OF POLICE in w/e district the article is talking about.
god damn you are an idiot.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@Buuub08 exactly, your arent from there but still trying to argue an issue about HK.
so tell me how you dont think y ou are an idiot LOL.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman I dont need to be from HK to know how OC works, there are far worse places to be and witness that first hand, i grew up in such a place.
I mention Interpol because you obviously have no clue what it is.
Interpol IS ESPECIALLY MADE for international OC due to issues with Police authority being limited to an area. And thus legally if YOU, being from HK, sell meth or whatever in NZ, for example, HK cops cant do shit about it without having higher-ups taking over. Dong le ma?
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 this wasnt even about OC. it was about tatoos. you just keep getting things WRONG. im going to keep embarassing you because you opened your mouth about an HK TOPIC when you are NOT an HKER.
so learn from this and dont shoot yourself in the foot again.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@Buuub08 you just keep confusing the issue to avoid how you arent qualified to say anything about the actual topic.
you are not a hong konger, i am. so that means your opinion means nothing. im telling you why tatoos are looked down upon in HK.
that is fact. whether a wannabe know it all like you wants to admit it or not.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@Buuub08 are you just retarded or confused about the issue. who said HK created triads?
i said the biggest triads ARE HK triads. and yes they go all over the world. but that doesnt change anything. like you keep ignoring, its other countries that want to work with HK POLICE because these triads are BASED IN HK.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman Biggest triads are HK triads?
There is no definition of that. And in fact the biggest ground for Chinese OC is the US followed by the UK.
They are not based in HK, i get the feeling you dont know what the word "based" means. Ill tell you once again - the largest base of Chinese OC (aka traids) is not HK, its first of all major US cities as well as the UK. In fact Triads come in second after Russians in UK.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 you retard, learn what based means. google was in china, but its US BASED.
god damn. why are you so fukn stupid.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman I think your English fails pretty bad.
Google was in China?
Google as a company is based in the US, indeed, and it cant go anywhere.
Listen, just pick up a dictionary and look up the word "based", it should be under "B" in case you wonder.
Triad capital? Whats the definition of that? Dont pull random shit you cant explain.
Kid, read your own comments before calling others stupid.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 WOW. what kind of retard are you. INTERNATIONAL COMPANIES ALL HAVE A BASE.
go google the term yourself. you have a lot of homework to do.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman Companies dont have a "BASE", they have a registration.
Also there is no definition of what the Triad leadership is and where its at.
Yeah it was about tattoos before you tarted pulling bs from some weak articles of no actual relevance. You skipped the tattoo part because you know that Chinese in general do NOT like tattoos and there is no record of what Traid tattoos MIGHT BE, if they even exist.
Buuub08 1 year ago
I don't agree with the girl's views about tattoos. It tooks fugly on any human skin, both M and F (and ruins the skin too). It's taboo for a reason.
thehenryman 1 year ago
Don't forget that having tattoos exposed in Hong Kong is sure going to attract A LOT of police attention and countless inspections and ID card checks.
thehenryman 1 year ago
@thehenryman Not really. it's all down to opinion anyway..
Waterfallbabe15 1 year ago
if someone doesnt like my tattoo they can just kiss my ass im not her to please anyone
leelulove24 1 year ago
"lower back tattoo" I.E. Tramp stamp
IIoWoII 1 year ago
i think tattoos on women look beautiful, i am tattood myself, and i think more women shouldnt be afraid to show off there ink.
rebeccajanewhite1982 1 year ago
@rebeccajanewhite1982 I AM NOT SUPRISED. YOU SEEM LIKE THE TYPE OF COMMON SKANK THAT WOULD GO FOR THIS CRAP! I BET YOU HAVE (CLASSIC BITCH) TATTOOED ON YOUR ASS!
wonderall100 1 year ago
hahahah, regards guys!
its me, SIDDDDD, i get tattooed by You ^^
505479849 1 year ago
maybe the only advantage with chinese tattos that it will never stay perm, hahahah :)
z370Toronto 1 year ago
This video is great! I've just completed "Covered," a doc about women and tattoos in the United States. I am very interested in continuing my research in Hong Kong, as that is where my mother is from! Check out my page for more info.
SnakegirlProduction 1 year ago
Tattoos look great on Asian skin!
CrynOut 2 years ago
@CrynOut and how much would that be, i would like o have one square meter?, lol
SaerdnaOoOoo 1 year ago
@SaerdnaOoOoo What do you mean?
CrynOut 1 year ago
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