Gears of War 3 | Retail Retro Lancer vs Beta Retro Lancer.

[CombatTurtleFTW]

I do think the retro in the beta was more accurate but it was still a strong weapon so I suppose thats why they increased the recoil.Point blanking someone with it however isnt an issue you dont need to be accurate just close but with distance more skill is required.Overall its a so-so weapon takes skill and patience and in good hands can dominate. (currently working on perfecting it myself)

[gamermetalnerd]

this is why i liked the beta better

[killaboy500]

lol i use all weapons so i cant disagree

[XxMrJSCxX]

The graphics in the beta appear to me a little more blurrier and nicer than the ones in the retail version...I wonder why they changed things cuz I preferred the looks of the beta nonetheless gears is awesome with the exception of the retro lancer too OP

[creationoftheworld]

The only very noticable thing i have seen so far in gears 3 , is the fact that when your in cover and you face left the hands of the characters go through most of the weapons , i have read that they even changed the design of the lancer because fingers went through the gun that holds the chainsaw grip in gears 2 , so if they went into such detail then how did they overlooked wich i have mentioned about gear 3 ? Off course it is nit picking but still !

[FATExLEG3ND]

emanlancerkidd gets recked by it thats y he hates the retro lancer

[Morphs4U]

all the people complaining about the retro get so pwned by it it's untrue. the sawed-off however, makes people run away from you all the time when they miss a shot. Retro and gnasher wins games

[dragonxanimation]

i liked the beta graphics better

[EmanLancerkidd]

now the lancer on the other hand is awesome i love that gun and the hammy is awesome aswell both shotgunz are kool but the retro..... hahahaha is for the bitchez who like to stay back using that ugly for sorry players ass rifle..... smh retro losers hahahaha

[EmanLancerkidd]

this message go to all retro lancer users you guys suck and cant play...



[EmanLancerkidd]

the retro lancer is for sorry as losers that cant play the fuckin game i hate that piece of shit... i wish they never put that in the game...

[WolfOfTheDeadNight]

Are you guys kidding me? Marcus' hair isn't even that long to be moving like it was in the beta. It's fine as it is.

[pankakeflipper3]

is the second 1 retail or beta

[noventak]

you know i got a little bored of using the hammerburst only, i have like 5 retro kills and 4 with sawed off and im lvl 60 something, i think ill switch to these one for a while

[DAL7440]

I wonder why they removed the backround music of Checkout that was in the beta

[AznGamingNation1140]

i like the color scheme in the beta than retail

[dem6nseed]

Didnt the patch the recoil when the toned down the sawed-off? It feels like the recoil is not that bad now compared to the games launch?...

[shadowdemons117]

the first retro lancer pic you used the non retail version why did they change that i like that look better than the retail version look

[DinoHunter8]

@shadowdemons117 I agree,the one from the beginning picture looks alot cooler than what it looks like now. I wish they would tell us why they changed it.

[NotTalking76]

Com Dom (x2) And Aaron G (x1) trading for Green L.M or Any Character Except Adam Fenix...

[SandyyBreasts]

game looks so much better in the beta :/

[TommyTaylorTX]

which was retail

[GamerSittch]

More than likely, the damn thing got worse.

[Ju5TcHiilLbrA]

okay so you have to hold your thumb down more? should've fixed the damage of the weapon.... epics fuck up 1 of 10

[thychaos]

ok, first video is beta, second is retail, third is beta, fourth is retail, and so on. am i right? probably should have clarified that.

[JakeJohnsonAKAJdogg]

@thychaos it's in the bottom right

[Dothd00d]

you got to tap the trigger like once every 2 or so seconds to get the full effect, but it does its job well. I enjoy the extra power in trade for accuracy and recoil. I picked up the regular lancer and was amazed buy how accurate and how little it effected me firing it. I dont like spraying my enemy continuously for 10 seconds to get a kill though. just my opinion. the game makes you choose, so i like it.

[TheJared966]

Still my favorite gun. In horde it is unstoppable

[xx1vincent1xx]

Who gives a fuck. The beta is gone 4EVER. play the retail and it is what it is

[redrum4531]

i hate the retail recoil but retro is still my favorite gun RETRO ALL THE WAY

[captinbuggie]

I loled at the retail Retro, thing was going off like bats out of hell.

[FROSTBITER35]

Blindfiring at the hip only works if their at shotgun GIB range! And if your getting people with it their not to skilled

[pingasting]

@FROSTBITER35 dude chill out with all ur comments we get it, epic made this gun gay

[MON5TA123]

I hate shotgun Rushers :(((((

[MrZman20]

@MON5TA123 :l

[FROSTBITER35]

Once again Gears will become a Hammerburst/Gnasher loadout game, with afew lancer users and the noob Sawed off rushers.

[FROSTBITER35]

The gun is all over the place!! Don't try and strafe and blindfire!!! Even if the enemies is in your fucking face blindfiring wont do shit, if you try to hold the thumb stick down it still shakes everywhere!!! Im pissed!!! I mean epic you listen to those dick riding epic forum nerds and just make a good gun useless, I hate feeling like im forced to play with the hammer burst now.

[Bamabrute85]

@FROSTBITER35 I still hipfire @ close range and do great with it.

[FROSTBITER35]

I would like to say FUCK YOU EPIC!!! Ima retro/Gnasher user well was I just played with the gun and its complete bullshit now!!! The recoil is stupid dumb!!! The shit is worthless I mean wow seriously epic!!! You listened to all the cry baby shotgun rushers and just said well make it easier for them to rush now!!!

[S1deshowRobP5]

Neither the retro lancer or the sawed off is overpowered. The retro lancer is hard to aim and you practically have to hug someone to use the sawed off

[JayCodyLegit]

It honestly only looks like they've changed the hip firing. Whatever the case, I know I'll be noobing it up with my Retro-Sawed Off combo. I love hearing rednecks (and other ppl) get pissed over those guns. It's so hilarious :)

[TheNextBruceWayne]

Well.. I guess it changed nothing really to me, since I only used it for charging people with the bayonet. Although it looks like it'll be more interesting to master using it now, since it's so.. I don't even have words for it. Lmao..

[TheMercsAssassin]

@MrOMGITSTOM Its not just that its not AS powerful, it looks completely unusable now. Someone would have to be closer than shotgun range in order for it to be wroth anything now. It already couldn't do any kinda midrange well. It was just a range that was a little farther than shotguns but the lancer and hammerburst had far better midrange capabilities, imo.

[TheMercsAssassin]

Wow, even firing it at that slow of a burst at the end it looks like they made it completely useless now. Thx alot Epic. I bet u that damn Sawd off is still the cheapest thing in gaming though. Thanks for nurfing the one thing I enjoyed using since gears 1 Epic >:( RAGEEEE!!!

I hope its easier to use than how it seemed there just now. I had mastered it in the beta. Seemed perfectly balanced against all the shotgun whores to me.

[RonHotwater]

@TheMercsAssassin

I'm with you buddy, the Retro was the only thing that kept shotgun rushers behind cover. They could glide around the floor all they wanted and I could eat em up with it. It finally put an end to gumby style tactics of GoW2 veterans. Don't shy away from it yet though, just tap the trigger and push the stick against the recoil and I bet it will still be your baby. I'm not going to let them take it away from me!

[BlariX]

I didn't even know marcus had hair. Wow!

[PrankyAntony]

Stop complaining, this guy is a hacker, at 1:21 you can see a green box in the bakground, that appeared randomly in the uncomplete vrsion. The graphics will look good as ever

[SprunkG]

in the beta marcus's hair has more animation than in the retail... hmmm.

[DaneBrony]

@SprunkG It is quite strange, isnt it? I think the beta Marcus' hair looks more realistic when compared to the final product. I wonder why they decided to change that.

[dragonxanimation]

@DaneBrony maybe it was causing lag issues?

[iusethelancer1]

@SprunkG To save space on the disk.

[PanchoLovesBoobies]

beta looks better wtf

[Zason8161]

Good video, thanks for the upload

[zZzBIGBOYzZz1998]

his hair doesnt move any more thats dumb

[MyFilms117]

rofl the retail will scare the grubs by just shoting it hahaha

[antdk23]

I have seen many leaked videos of gears 3 n i can assure u that the graphics has been GREATLY reduced. There was a wonderful multiplayer map AZURa, with gorgeous foliage that is way better than Azura in the sp of the retail version. In the multiplayer map like Trashball, there was better textures, foliage n is definitely sharper than the retail version. SHAME EPIC for including 3d n Downgrading the GRAphics SOOO much.

[lewisrich]

Strange how people say that the retros gonna be useless now, yet I barely hip fired with it and still got plenty of kills and stopped rushers from killing me. It's just not stupidly overpowered now :P

[WikRaeN2]

Epic took down my vid, so yours is probably the only copy left. Let's hope it stays that way.

[dragonlord83]

What the hell have they done to the retro lancer? It looks like its gonna be useless now.

[ShizukaAssassin]

They gave it stronger damage and more recoil, but hard aiming is easier to do in retail than in the beta from the looks of it, but the exact opposite with blind firing, I'm cool with the changes, I'll mainly use it for impaling and melee combat and let my gnasher do the rest :)

[AndorasWilven]

Increased recoil makes more sense seeing as how it is a powerful gun and it's a bit old so accuracy won't be all that great. Short bursts will have better effect.

[xXSTNXxHawK003]

Retro gets shittier, the map looks shitter, and the animation/hair movement is shitter/non-existent. What the fuck...

[Gimboy202]

The changes seems fine to me I meant hey seem like they were needed that gun seemed to be a bit on the OP side in the Beta.

[Boggle1212]

Game looks great, I like the retro nerf, most overpowered thing in the beta since sliced bread.

[Arwani1501]

Looks good so far, can't wait

[Draggzilla]

Marcus is too strong to have any sort of Recoil at all. this shouldn't apply to him.

[Draggzilla]

Marcus is too strong to have any sort of Recoil at all. this shouldn't apply to him.

[HealingSixes]

Gnasher beats retro close, lancer and hammy beat retro far, chainsaw beats retro charge, sounds like if you pick the Gnasher you shouldn't theoretically need to pick the retro cause retro loses close range to gnasher and loses medium to long against lance and hammy. Watch MLG Epic Vs Team Insane nobody used the retro at all.

[headshothazard]

gears of war changed like everything does overtime, the first was simple and fun, everything to tech now, bring an expansion DLC for gears 1 like you should of done 4 years ago, dunno about the rest of you but id rather play that expansion then gears 3 multiplayer, im only in it for the story now MAAAN i remember hearing this was intended to be a trilogy and fuuck has it come far

[RedzaaHD]

Retro Lancer ftw

[ItsNickHD]

muchhhh better :)

[Jewelworld360]

That patch is going 2 do much I'm still going 2 kick ass with the retro lancer!!!

[concretefeet1]

EPIC FAIL, this gun is now a big fail :(

[OhMaiPhuckingGawd]

it looks like hip fire was the most changed

[MickyKelly91]

@OhMaiPhuckingGawd That's what people complained about. They said the hip fire was too accurate/generous, and they are trying to eliminate that. I think they did a good job

[lalalax4321]

i think that the recoil with aiming and stuff look pretty similar. but blindfire, u can see the difference

[Draggzilla]

They need to fix the way the game looks. I hope it doesn't get released looking like that.

[DrEaMsNoEviL]

@Draggzilla This is the retail version man.

[Draggzilla]

@DrEaMsNoEviL Why is there an ugly Green tint that Overpowers everything, hes in a store, not a fucking Forest.

[Draggzilla]

@DrEaMsNoEviL Why is there an ugly Green tint that Overpowers everything, hes in a store, not a fucking Forest.

[Thomasveach95]

@DrEaMsNoEviL Are you serious? Is that possible it got crappier? Marcus' hair doesn't even move!?!?!

[sonex1203]

@Thomasveach95 Hard to tell,but his doo-rag got better.

[InevitableTyler]

@Draggzilla It looks better then any of the other GoWs

[Draggzilla]

@InevitableTyler It kind of looks worse than Both.

[SuperDrunkMoose]

@Draggzilla it looks fucking fine its the latest version of the unreal engine with the new udk updates you toolbox it the highest graphical engine available if you dont believe me go on the udk site and watch the video good samaritan

[Draggzilla]

@SuperDrunkMoose No it doesn't. Im talking about the Color base, Look at the Beta compared to retail. The beta has more Little Details, like The Hair movements when he shoots, and in the Retail, the whole Map is Pretty much one ugly green color, when in the beta, it brings out a lot of little details, and the Curves look great. idiot.

[schoolboi180]

@Draggzilla

umm i dont see anything wrong

[Draggzilla]

@schoolboi180 Everything is wrong.

[schoolboi180]

@Draggzilla

how is that? I noticed they made the game a little brighter

[Draggzilla]

@schoolboi180 Im only talking about the Retail. The beta looks Perfect, but the Retail, eh, Certain colors are just Too overpowering, and They Killed Some neat little Movements, like the flow of the hair.

[schoolboi180]

@Draggzilla

yea and maybe it looks better in retail and just can't tell with this one video. And I'm having a problem seeing the flow of hair on marcus in the beta and the retail because of that bandanna xD

[ustinkification]

@Draggzilla It does look better in the beta... Fuck green

[IDeadWork]

@Draggzilla what are you talking about. the game looks amazing.

[TheForgottenBlackMan]

@Draggzilla FILTER IS only on this map

[zalazard]

@Draggzilla no body needs your opinion i'm sure everyone loves how it looks now and cant wait too get it.

[xalentcash]

@Draggzilla whats wrong with it?

[thychaos]

@Draggzilla are you fucking retarded? the graphics are top notch.

[Lrdvltr]

@thychaos Please excuse him, he IS retarded.

[Draggzilla]

Retail Recoil had me dying. lololololol

[HaiDemon]

looks like its still a shit of a weapon,imo. Should have never been brought to the game, I have enough with the fucking hammerburst to worry about this gun. Decrease the power to that of 10% of the snub and we have a deal EPIC.

[IngloriouszGun]

Not to bitch but to be honest i dont really care but do you notice how much darker the games colors are now. and how the theme dosnt play on the new checkout or that marcus hair(nbd) dosnt move any more. Nothing big And this is shit i could really give less of a fuck about but just though i mention it

[xMIxpsycho]

Looks balanced now :]

[TheGow1pro]

Looks like EPIC did a really good job on fixing that gun. YESSSsS

[bxnelson]

thank you fucking god..ive been trying to look for this comparison since forr ever

[BlariX]

How do i feel? I feel bit sick seeing that retro lancer again but I will most likely throw up when I see that sawed off shotgun.

[IowaStateCyclonesFAN]

wow way better. not much diff when aiming but a ton when blindfiring is perfect.

[GearsOFCool3]

checkout is green!

[Reneblade]

good. there was no reason not to use the retro in beta.

[S3cK5hun8]

i still hate retro whether the recoil changed or not

[DiabolicCircle]

I don't really see the difference, can anybody tell me?

[xiViaarksman]

Thanks a lot for uploading this, gives me some hope that noobs won't be able to run this game.

GREAT changes, hope they reduce the Sawed-Off's effectiveness aswell.

[nirusan45]

Why do ppl rage about Bots in GOW 2 mp ?

[Artsydits]

nice vid

[Yunghunt187]

It's just going to be a weak automatic shotgun since you can't really use it long range. They should have just made it weaker for it to be considered an assault rifle.

[bruenor3]

@Yunghunt187 ya but when i played horde mode and was using it against the bot locusts it was incredibly hard to use compared to the beta retro lancer also hallf the shots missed its gonna liked and hated still but not in the way it was in the beta so ya

[ImAMentalPatient]

@Yunghunt187 It depends how you use it i played the beta and yes it was hard to get long ranged kills but i managed 1/100 lol, you dont use it as an automatic gun you treat it like an M16A4 or if you close range you let it loose :P

[Zeitvy]

Wtf is up with Marcus's hair in the retail version?

[Luijeee]

the map colour changed :(

[TheTrueHasemuru]

Is there any info on reduced damaged with the Retro Lancer?



[nirusan45]

@TheTrueHasemuru they just made it have more recoil for the RL, but same damage

[GearsTags]

Bots with retro laner = lolz for everyone.

[nirusan45]

@GearsTags Oh baby more MLG BOTS baby , I can see it now 1v5 bot clutch

[TooMuchL4g]

I'm glad about the hipfire but the ads is kinda similar

[cynexist]

lol



[TKMxR3DRUMx]

YAY!

[CartmanPwnsNubs]

Wow the beta version looks better, retail has a stupid green hue to it.

[BlameDreams]

Retro Lancer will probably still be overpowered but at least not as much anymore

[DrEaMsNoEviL]

I was given permission to upload BTW

[Littlemanbesnipin]

@DrEaMsNoEviL How do you already have it?

[Seph123ff7]

Great idea, make the shotgun MORE powerful....

[youngnbored]

@Seph123ff7 Never knew that an Assault rifle was suppose to beat a Shotgun close range you dumb bitch

[Seph123ff7]

@youngnbored Yeah, but labeling you from your reply, I can only assume that you use the shotgun from any range anyway, so your reply was pointless. If you're at close range, you shotgun. If you're at long range, you either still use the shotgun and get the same bullshit effect as you would from 3 feet away or you evade fire until you get in close range, which has just been made easier when Epic, once again, fixes something that isn't broken.

[youngnbored]

@Seph123ff7 you're the biggest idiot if you think that the Retros hipfire wasn't broken lmao I'm guessing you're one of those fags that use it

[Seph123ff7]

@youngnbored Please make a sensible argument before I am to continue replying to you.

[Seph123ff7]

@youngnbored Also keep in mind that when I mean 'evade' I mean charging straight at the enemy without taking any form of cover.

[trevasco08]

Thank god...