Boxer's Ghosts (P3/5) 2002 Pimpest Play: Boxer v Chunsang

[poopfartpenis]

they're already halfmap/halfmap and the replay isn't even half over

O_O

[khianidude]

6:59 If not ahead? DUDE HE HAS 13K+ MINERALS LOL xD

[FLOODKILLA]

there was 1 bc that he didnt lock down. it was the one the he targeted

[mmmax111]

OMG, dude, your commentary is sooooo cool :D

[rapaicruma]

I know this is an old match, and that strategies were much different back then, but why didn't Chunsang build a medic?

I mean, if I saw someone use the lockdown a bunch of my BCs and tanks, you know, just maybe I would start thinking about how to counter that...

[Rawnesss]

@rapaicruma Because It would probably not make a difference? You'd have to Flare every single unit boxer has in a field in order to make the flare effective, + he could throw in a few scans to counter THAT if needed. It certainly would've been epic if Chunsang could'a made such an attack... but it's quiet improbable.

[Crowmanhunter]

@Rawnesss

I think he meant to use the medics for restore against the lockdown, not for the optical flair.

[Rawnesss]

Makes alittle more sense then...

[ameryllw]

Thanks for the cloning explanation. That sounds hard, but not as hard as how I would've had to do it.

Restoration is a hard counter to lockdown. Takes less energy, comes from a cheaper unit.

[nicoelson]

a nuke at 1:10 would be good

[Jonoku]

@nicoelson no.

[TheWye]

lol @ 6 min comment

[Kwijibo87]

Come on Boxer, you know you wanna go for Nukes :D

[terran500]

crappy lagg shit video

[avinotion]

i just wanna know one thing - was that pause by CholeraSC caused by a cat? 2:12

[Galenin]

@avinotion I think someone was yelling "yes" or something ...

[Bryee94]

another thing you gotta keep in mind about lockdowns is that the spell shortcut key is an L which means you have to use your left hand to move it to the other side of the keyboard while your right hand is clicking at the different units. If you actually try it its ALLLOT harder then cloning with easier spells that have the shortcut e or r, etc. lockdowns of all spells require really fast hand movements especially wen L is like one of the furthest keys from your left hand

[iwanabana]

....and chunsang never had the thought of building medics or upgrading his ground army?

[elgalas]

low resources

[Caesar512]

--and 9:10 for that matter! Oh the humanity!

[Caesar512]

It's a bad day to be a svc around 6:10

[BOnEhEAdD]

I like Cholera being also confused by this move and saying "cloaked" instead of "locked" :D

[SiouxTube]

Wow, that is really impressive lock down control, he really was the Emperor.

[malgrif091]

did boxer really have 14000 mins?!

[Legendhalfliferrr]

LOL charge of the light SCVs :P

[spawnfan101]

lmao starcraft pros were so noob back then, ghosts? Battlecruisers? And look at all the unspent resources.

[BaLdY0mFG]

Well when you are maxed it is normal to have a shit load of resourses.....

[naranja18she]

well, you are gonna claim John Rockefeller was poor because he didn't have an ipod?

[Paxel911]

Ahh so great play

[JWD241224]

Boxer scanned so he could get vision to begin clicking BCs for lockdown - if he tried to do all of the lockdowns while the ghosts already had vision on the BCs then there was more likelihood his opponent could get a scan off or react faster.

Ah, The Emperor :)

[BenHileday]

Hahah Boxer 'might' be even economically... Lol as you say that he has 13,000 minerals :) I think he might be even :)

[BenHileday]

Yah man you got it. Shift click ghosts to get the lockdown like that... ITS A lot harder then it sounds. u have to be super fast and Dont miss click :)

[nafet]

just hotkey them individually...

[BenHileday]

ive tried that and its easier to shift rightclick . when u do it ur way your guys won't go as simotanious as if you shift rightclick. Also you need to make sure ur units are far enough away so you can rightclick and cast 8 lockdowns before the 1st one attacks. orelse ud probably get ur units wasting all on same target.

[Presonance]

Can someone explain this "shift right-click" technique? How does it make for a simultaneous lockdown? Sorry, bit of a noob here.

[BenHileday]

When you hold shift and right click on a unit in your group it deselects them from the group. Basicly you have 8 ghosts, cast lockdown on 1 carrier, deselect 1 ghost, with 7 cast lcokdown on the next carrier, deselect a ghost now with 6 cast and the 3rd carrier, deselect again.. wash an repeat. You should do this very very quickly and know enough about the game to pull it off.

[Presonance]

Ah... got it. I see how that works. Thanks for clearing that up!

[camposxivth]

amazing... 10 years of Starcraft and I keep learning new stuff... Thank you

[JRimRim]

@BenHileday wont all 8 ghosts throw their lockdowns on a single target?

[Aldind2x]

@BenHileday Wait wouldn't this cast 7 lockdowns from the ghosts? Selecting to lockdown with 7 and then deselecting one would still fire off the 7 no?

[lordof0war]

@BenHileday thing is, if memory serves in sc1, if you have multiple casters on 1 control group, they will all cast the spell, rather than just one. that was the case with high templar's psi storm. I'm not sure if that was the case with ghosts, but I think it was the same

[gkcyouth]

you select all your ghosts, then tell them all to lock one bc. then shift click one wireframe so that you have all of them minus one selected. then lockdown another bc. repeat until you have ghosts locking each bc. The way it works is that the ghosts do not actually lock all the bcs even though you tell them to. Boxer is a legend, so he can do it fast enough so that he can lock down every bc without making two ghosts lock the same bc.

[lordapokalypse]

you select a group of ghosts, tell them all to lock down one unit,hold shift and click one in the screen o nthe bottoom of the screen, tell the remaining group to lock down a different unit, shift click out another ghost etc. if you can do it to all of the ghosts before the group gets there they will all lock down a different unit simultaniously. this techniqe is called cloning and is used more for scourge micro than spells and is harder to do with spells

[Presonance]

Very interesting, thanks!

[lovelymanforu2004]

wow speechless

[maplebroa]

i think the players right now improved so much