Probably a dpms AR or some other knockoff brand. ARs have to be built to spec with high qc or this is what is going to happen. Eugene stoner never intended for corners to be cut in his design. I'd take a well built ar anyday. I like ak's though don't get me wrong
AR-15s are way better,people who choose the AK cant shoot for shit.The AR is much more accurate.The AK is the slut of weapons and the AR is the beauty queen.I own both and would take the AR all day.
@OKLASOONER1OU I've seen people who couldn't shoot for shit with both AR's and AK's, and I've seen people who were greats shot with AK's and AR's. It's not the rifle, it's the asshole behind it that counts.
I've had 3 of my AK's and 1 AR in a locked vice (no human element). The AR shot tighter groups at 150 yards than every single on the AK's. Even had a friend with a modded AK74 I believe, and the AR still shot tighter groups.
Again, I like both. They are equally fun to shoot and get the job done. Having said that, I think I'm seeing some AK bias in your comments...
I own both and they are both GREAT RIFLES. I did a quick and relatively cheap piston system conversion on my AR (like the H&K 416) so I only have to clean it about the same amount of times I clean the AK. AR shoots tighter groups at further ranges and the ammo weighs less, so I can carry more. However, AK is still a great gun thats accurate at medium range (note: put a "peep sight" on it).
Anyone who fights trying to pick the "best" are fags, and should be shot with 30 rounds from each gun.
@cavalrytm I'm not an engineer, but slapping a piston conversion kit on a rifle never designed to use one in the first place is like asking for trouble. It might work fine initially, but it never will work as well as an AK in combat conditions. Perhaps its fine for range use though. The AK-74 has lighter magazines.
"slapping a piston conversion kit on a rifle never designed to use one in the first place is like asking for trouble."
Wrong. It was a simple conversion, and improved the firearm. Reduces wear on parts, and completely eliminates dirty shit flying into the chamber. Cleaning half as often now.
"It might work fine initially, but it never will work as well as an AK in combat conditions."
Weird, because the military is planning on switching to an H&K 416 inspired piston AR rifle.
@cavalrytm They specifically redesigned the M4 to take a piston with the HK416. They didn't just jimmy rig a piston on a M4. You don't have a HK416. The military hasn't said it will adopt a piston rifle. It's possible though.
I forget the name of the competition or whatever the hell they are calling it, but they are trying to switch to a piston AR platform. Mine runs great, I've probably put 1000 or more rounds through it by now. Pretty easy to do with the 30 round mags I've got lol.
@AkJohn74 Actually your grammar is. Tell the professionals that use them such as 3 gun competitors and members of the various special forces that their rifle of choice is a piece of shit.
AK IS A MACHINE GUN AR IS A RIFLE AK is a buck knife ar is a scouple. each is the best at what they are designed to do. the shooters however, they are mostly smack tards!
@johnnymagnum357 AK is a machine gun? AR is a rifle? I'm pretty sure they are both a rifle, and could be made into a machine gun. Either of them can be made into fully auto or whatever. By the way, the AR is not a SNIPER rifle, nor is the AK. They are both assault rifles. So the ak doesn't try to be accurate at 300 yds, it only tries for 100. And it hits so much harder:)
So, get your rifle fixed, then do a real test. Might also want to clean it, both of you look like you have no military experience and those rifles are out of your league.
@johnnymagnum357 Yeah, I'm sorry. I just see these people buy rifles that they bought because they thought they were "Cool." After spending alot of time in the Army I cannot stop laughing at morons buying rifles they don't know how to shoot.
@FiveTwoSevenTHR One: i actually have fired both rifles for countless hours and two: iv done my research, so i don't just base my opinion off of my own but its backed by info especially with its 2 round burst fire which i don't think the AR has
@challenger470hp Let me get this straight, you appear to live outside of Russia, most likely in the US considering your name. Somehow you've been given the chance to be on the development team for a rifle that is still in prototype stage and is in very limited numbers with the Russian Police and the Russian Spetsnaz. Even after all those countless hours with the AR 15, you still aren't sure if it has two round burst. Don't bullshit me kid, I can see your pathetic lies.
@FiveTwoSevenTHR one Ive served in the military as a marine officer and the an -94 is not a prototype its the one of the main assault rifles employed in the Russian federation armed forces and i am very sure it has two round burst and the AR does not the an-94 is known especially for this ability
and just shut up no wants a fricken troll around leave peoples opinions alone
@challenger470hp One of the main assault rifles? There are only 1,000 copies of the rifle and in limited use by the Special forces and Police. How could you have possibly have countless hours of hands on experience with it? Answer that.
@FiveTwoSevenTHR if you want to keep arguing and wasting your time you can but my opinion and facts stand strait its better than the AR 15, the AR 15 is a civilian semi automatic rifle it was produced for civilians
Presicion: a measurement system, also called reproducibility or repeatability, is the degree to which repeated measurements under unchanged conditions show the same results. Now that sounds more like grouping right? Now accuracy, Accuracy: the condition or quality of being true, correct, or exact; freedom from error or defect; correctness. Now that doesn't seem like grouping am I right? AR is NOT more accurate than AK, its more PRECISE.
@HunterKiller308 the M in AKM stands for "modernized" in russian. He kalashinkov took the ak47s design made a few changes to it and created the akm. And if that random torso hits statement was true, then how am I able to hit a melon sized target with my type 56 and wasr10 from 150m away? So 200 yards? I think itd be a little more accurate than body shots...
@HunterKiller308 go up to ANY gun historian, collector, expert, veteran etc and tell them an M16 is superior to an AK-47. They'd have a heart attack. Also does the fact that we're comparing the oldest ak to the newest ar jump out at you? Lol stop being an internet tough guy. It doesnt make you look cool it makes you look like an ass. Whats the matter? Mommy and daddy not show you enough love growing up?
@HunterKiller308 can you read? The accuracy of the m16 isnt an advantage because the ak is accurate out to 300m. Weight? Hey if you're a little girl I guess a 2 pound difference can help. recoil on the ak is pretty easy to control once you get used to it. And caliber options wont matter when bullets are shattering 2 feet away from you. What matters is the caliber in your gun.
@crackbaby1058 there is a big differance between accuracy and range kid, 300 yards with an AK is random torso hits at best.
"The accuracy of the m16 isnt an advantage" yeah thats why there were so many headshots taken in Iraq the UN thought Marines were executing people. most of them were taken well past 200 yards.
when someone is firing at you from a window the head is the only target you got, and if all YOU got is an AK your shit outta luck kiddo
@HunterKiller308 The headshots in fallujah you are refering to were actually between 200-250m, and That had more to do with the fact that those m16s had 4x ACOGs on them, An AK with a 4x scope can still hit a paper plate at those distances.
@FireControlGroup whats your point? your not going to get a target as big as a paper plate. if someone isnt a moron like you they only expose upper half of their head and only enough of it to see with eye looking down the sights. that means LESS than 1/4 of the head is exposed when one can take advantage of both horizontal and verticle cover, such as a window. a 8" out of a 4 MOA rifle inst cutting it. not by a long shot. Your probably to stupid to understand any of this
@HunterKiller308 the 5.45 has the same crappy terminal ballistics of the 7.62x39, only on a smaller scale, going end over end twice and making an exit. with proper velocitys the 5.56 is going to do way more damage thru cavitation and fragmentation and when it doent have enough velocity to frag its going to yaw very much like a 5.45 since the round is tail heavy. the 5.56 is bigger than the 5.45 as well
@crackbaby1058 Accurate to 300m? It's a 2moa rifle, that's a 6-7 inch group lying prone without stress. Not to mention the atrocious amount of drop the 7.62 x 39 experiences at that range.
You dont think the ak will make it? I dont remember his name, search for him on google. There was a man who was so confident in his AKM he never cleaned it and fired it on a weekly basis. After not cleaning it for 19 years it finally jammed. Which isnt shocking considering in vietnam they plowed over dead vc with their aks and after they dug them up years later they fired just fine.
@e1ghtys1x stopping power, reliablility. The m16 in terms of performance has literally no advantage over the ak. "oh its a light weight gun" its not even 3 pounds lighter, which unless you're 13 won't make a difference. "it can mount optics and attachments" yeah the ak can too... And optics arent a big advantage at all. They matter very little. What actual advantages does the m16 have over the AK?
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh so the M16s greater accuracy is almost a useless advantage. AKs have killed more people, have been copied more, and has a much better performance record than any ar varient. Sorry buddy but AK wins every day of the week.
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh lol I LOVE when people say its better because its more accurate... Firefights dont extend past 100m and the AK is accurate out to 300m. Good luck even seeing past 300m buddy. The sheer performance of the ak is better than that of the m16. Fires a more powerful round, is more reliable, has better iron sights, and isnt as long. AK-47 is a poor mans gun? Because if you found an actual AK-47 you could sell it for quite a large chunk of change considering AK-47s are very rare...
@DaBlindKungFuMastah thats got to be one of the most idiot statements ive heard in a long time. Im american, yet I would trust my life with an AK over an M16 any day. It like it because of its sheer performance capabilities that surpass that of the M16. And you are wrong, the reason the M16 jammed so much during vietnam was because it had been marketed as a weapon that never had to be cleaned (which was obviously bullshit)
@crackbaby1058 Accuracy, Modularity, Caliber Options, Recoil Managment, Weight, Balance, Ergonomics, Battery of Operation, the list of ares in which the AR is a supirior weapon over the AK goes on and on. how many Teir 1 Special Op units use ARs when they can get whatever they want? how many SWAT teams use ARs? how many professionals the world over use ARs? how many 3rd world dirt farmers use AKs? how many poor nations use AKs? how many radicals living in caves use AKs?
@HunterKiller308 That is because they do what everyone else does and they think the same thing, "well if the military uses the M4 then it must be the best" And besides third world dirt farmers and people in caves are smart enough to know that an AR wont work in those places, Where are you from? I mean what state?
@FireControlGroup so according to you Teir 1 Special operations groups, SWAT teams, and true 1st world professionals the world over cant think out side the box and make decisions for themselves. units that can have anything they want choose the AR platfrom
@FireControlGroup its more about balance, weight distribution that determines how fast you can swing a weapon onto target. not the weight itself.
on top of the ARs supirior balance it will be lighter than a AK of the same barrel length, think they use aluminum recivers and polymers for the fuck of it?
@HunterKiller308 How? arent you unemployed? you are loaded down with thousands and thousands of dollars worth of firearms already? Maybe you should own one rifle and be an expert with it.
@antiigravity i have nothing against the Glock, there great i own 3 of them, but i do prefer the balance and feel of a 1911, its a natural pointer and its been serving my military very well for over 100 years so it must be doing somthing right. Glocks have disadvantages too, in terms of balance, grip angel, thicknes and a sloppy trigger
there are pistols out there that are better than both the 1911 and Glock, just like there are rifles out there much better than both ARs and AKs
@HunterKiller308 For the price you cannot beat an AK, I would rather Arm 5 guys with wasr 10s buy 6 mags for each and fill those mags with ammo for the price of 1 HK MR556.
@FireControlGroup i agree dollar for dollar you cant beat the AK for what you get, its an idiot proof military grade assault rifle that will last a life time and ANYONE can afford one. they arent tack drivers by any strech but when it comes to a DEFENCIVE rifle who gives a shit?
however im not worried about arming a large group of men and be cost effective about it. there are far better offerings out there and i want the best i can get my hands on. AKs are extremely low end, the bare minimum
@HunterKiller308 Yet being extremely "low end" they are more reliable than the highest end ARs, funny huh? Defensive or OFFENSIVE they are king, they are the best you can get your hands on, you are just that guy, that COOLGUY, like all the other TACTICOOLGUYS that allegedly owns every HK and AR and owns more guns than magazines and ammo and every firearm you own is pristine because you will never actually train and push yourself or your weapon to the limit.
@HunterKiller308 what disadvantages do glocks have? SLOPPY TRIGGERS? have you ever even held one? Or fired it? the 1911 was replaced in the 80s by the m9 (which is a shitty pistol) My Glock or my M&P will outperform any production 1911 or HK
Goddamn both the 5.56 and 7.62x39 will put a nice hole in a Zombies head. WHATS THE BIG DEAL! I have both the AR and AK and they are my FAVORITE rifles of all time. Stop being fan boys and shoot both and you'll appreciate both!
@HunterKiller308 Not really. My AK was almost as expensive as my AR. The higher end AKs are pretty pricey. And why do you say that? The AK and AR are nothing alike, if people get an AK is because they want an AK not because they can't afford an AR. ARs are nice, AKs are my absolute favorite. No cleaning no nothing, won't jam up with a grain of sand. My AR has jammed on me at the fucking range imagine if that was in a war. And my AR is not POS its an LMT.
@MRcalibrecincuenta sounds like you cant shop for shit. you can get yourself a fine Hungarian AK47 for $600 or mod a Saiga reciver yourself on the cheap, it will do anything one of those over priced Arsenal AKs will do
sounds like you dont know how to keep your rifle lubed or you like to use shitty Russian steel cased garbage
@HunterKiller308 Arsenal's are fine. Plus it's all they had at my local shop and i was not going to drive out for hours just to get a gun. And i don't lube them because i want to compare both of them to see which gun functions better when you don't clean them. So far the AK has been winning. No jams EVER. I have not have one jam or anything since the day i have gotten it. My AR has jammed a few times at the range. Goddamn just look at this video, the AR jammed like no other.
@MRcalibrecincuenta this video dosent prove shit, the stupid kid dosent understand high wear parts have a shelf life, things wear down. for example its a good idea to replace the extractors and ejectors on an AR every 4000 rounds.
AR reliability issues come from incompatent users not keeping it lubed, not replacing worn parts and using crappy mags and ammo.
....by the way we arent limited to what billy bob has behind the counter now adays, you can order anything you want on the net
@HunterKiller308 And with the AK you don't have to do any of that. Goddamn the AR sounds more like a fucking car rather than a tool that is suppose to save your life. Don't get me wrong i love my AR, but the AK owns the AR in reliability in every way possible.
@MRcalibrecincuenta everything is a compromise, any finer, higher prefroming machine will require more maintenance, and that is a non issue when you know what your doing
replacing a couple parts every few thousand rounds and keeping the action lubed is no big deal when given all the advantages in term of prefromance
@e1ghtys1x What if it was at Close quarters and my AR jammed, the enemy had his rifle already pointed at me and shot me. No time to get out the side arm. I'd be on my way home in a box.
@MRcalibrecincuenta If it was close quarters in anything short of a sandstorm then you wouldn't have any problems. Provided you know what you're doing. Do you know how to drop some oil on the bolt carrier every 1000-2000 rounds.
@e1ghtys1x I dont think you could flip your AR around to horizontal butt stroke someone faster than they can pull a trigger or swing a machete. Sounds like you are the typical benchrest shooter.
@FireControlGroup Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I can swing a 14 inch buttstock faster than someone can swing a 3 foot machete, besides I could always block the machete.
Pull the trigger? If he's close enough for me to hit him and he has any gun at all, than I would be dead even if my rifle was working.
@FireControlGroup " I can afford them, i just dont like unreliability"
what are you talking about exactly?
if its 1911s it really depends on the make and model, as well as AR15s. it really boils down to the individual firearm, the basic design of both forearms are sound ones
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh Considering you see Special Operations units using the AK, it has nothing to do with hating Americans, it has everything to do with realiability. The AR is flawed in the realiability department. The AK is an excellant weapon system that has proven itself time and time and time again. Its not about hate, but about the truth.
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh I say that it is a better assault rifle based on my experience shooting and owning both systems, it has nothing to do with hating americans, I like glocks and hate 1911s, doesnt mean I hate america, I just prefer reliability.
@FireControlGroup maybe the match grade options built with high tolerances, 1911's built around looser tolerances without all the bells and wistles the put on them now are very reliable side arms
@antiigravity Yeah that's great, I had a Glock jam on me several times, why? It hadn't been oiled. It's nice to know that I can bury my Glock and then have it jam because I didn't oil it.
@e1ghtys1x Well what if i was in a sandstorm then i didn't know sand got caught in the chamber as i was firing it, then i went inside a house to clear it and it happened there? I'd be 6ft underground. Or what if its during a survival event where oil is very hard to get? See, AK47 is superior.
Where oil is hard to get? How many homes have cars? Motor oil, hoppes 9, that 3 in 1 stuff they sell at home depot, you only need 4-5 drops every thousand rounds.
Yea, if you're on mars where there's no oil, than the AK is superior, you're telling me you can't afford a $4 bottle of gun oil?
@e1ghtys1x Yes theres a dustcover but once your shooting it opens. And well picture a scenario where almost everything is scarce. Oil is all dried up because everybody has been taking it. I mean would an AR be able to be buried for 18 years, dug up, and be fully functional with a little bit of oil? I really doubt it, the AK on the other hand, is proven with this video (watch?v=RgrJElGOMMg)
@MRcalibrecincuenta Like I said you only need 4-5 drops, are you telling me you can't keep a few bottles of oil on hand? 1 bottle of oil will last several years.
Yes it will, there are videos of the ar-15 being dumped in water and buried in sand with the dustcover off and still functioning. If you buried it with the dustcover on then it will work just fine when you dig it out.
Tell me sir, when will I feel the need to bury my rifle?
@e1ghtys1x After around 2000 rounds i'd figure you'd need more than 4-5 drops. And oil would probably dry up quickly since everybody would be using it and over time it would be hard to get a hold of. You don't need to bury your rifle but its a very good test to prove it's reliability. If it could withstand 18 years of mud, rain, dirt, rust and everything, it can withstand something minor. I highly doubt an AR could be buried for 18 years and be fired like it was new.
@MRcalibrecincuenta Alright then fine, 10-12 drops after 2000 rounds. But it's still only 10-12 drops. Are you telling me you can't keep a bottle of oil around? How many drops are in your average bottle of hoppes 9? You will run out of ammo way before you run out of oil.
I think the AR would be fine after 18 years in the dirt.
@e1ghtys1x I really doubt an AR would be fine after 18 years in the mud, rain, rust, and everything. AK has been proven to be more reliable than the AR. As much as you want the AR to be more reliable, it just won't beat the AK. It wasn't named the number 1 rifle for no reason. I have one AR but they are way too much. I'm just going to start collecting AKs.
@MRcalibrecincuenta As I've stated several times there are videos of AR's being buried in sand, water, and mud and working like new afterwards. Just type in ar-15 torture test.
Actually it was named no.1 rifle for reliability and cost. That's it. Otherwise the AR is a faster, more accurate, more versatile, and all around more capable gun.
@e1ghtys1x Sure, but they are definitely not as reliable as the AK. The AK dominates the AR in reliability. I have an AR and it is reliable, but my point is that it isn't as reliable as an AK because that was what the AK was designed for. An AR trades reliability, for precision. The AR isn't more accurate because people measure accuracy with group sizing. That's called precision. An AK can easily hit a man sized target up to 400 yards, thats more than enough to put someone down.
@MRcalibrecincuenta Wrong. Accuracy is a measure of consistency. you have no idea what your talking about. yeah you might be able to tag a full man sized target at 300 yards, but so what? its random torso shots with a 4 MOA rifle like an AK at that distance. it that "target was laying prone or using cover only leaving his head exposed you would be shit outa luck. the AR is an extremely reliable weapon when operated by somone who knows what they are doing.
@HunterKiller308 (cont) Accuracy just means what you hit. Precision is what most people call "accuracy". So in terms, the AK is plenty accurate because you can hit man sized targets up to 300 yards. And it's the shooter not the gun. Even a shitty shooter with an AR wouldn't be able to get a headshot on someone with cover. At least the AK has a chance to blow through that cover.
@scandmx5atl "hell it would take 10 rounds of 5.56 to kill someone anyway"
proves beyond a doubt you have no clue what your talking about. within proper fragmentation thresholds the 5.56x45 is far more lethal than 5.45x39 and 7.62x39 with their yaw going end over end twice before making an exit. Thru much larger cavitation and multiple wound channels with zero weight retention and immediate transfer of energy, thus greater blood loss and blood pressure drop. Educate yourself fool
@scandmx5atl I'm sure your experience using this rifle in combat allows you to say that. Wait, you don't have combat experience? Then where do you come up with that conclusion other than pure ignorance?
@HunterKiller308 Ok, i'll define them. Presicion: a measurement system, also called reproducibility or repeatability, is the degree to which repeated measurements under unchanged conditions show the same results. Now that sounds more like grouping right? Now accuracy, Accuracy: the condition or quality of being true, correct, or exact; freedom from error or defect; correctness. Now that doesn't seem like grouping am I right?
@MRcalibrecincuenta What? Just what? How the fuck else do you measure accuracy then?
The AK can hit a man sized target at 400 yards benchrested, without stress, with a cold barrel. And name one human being on this planet that will stand still and let you shoot them.
@e1ghtys1x Here is video of proof. Its around 0:35 (watch?v=gOozMdEV_AU). And so a shooter would hit someone at 400 yards under stress, with a hot barrel automatically without missing because they have an AR right? LOL. It's the shooter not the gun. And accuracy just means hitting what you aim for. PRECISION is putting holes next to one an other. Obviously your a fanboy of the AR but as much as you try to say it's not and this and that, the majority agree that the AK is much better.
@MRcalibrecincuenta the AN-94 is not special in it preformance on full auto, The AEK-971 was prone to malfunction and is no longer is production. You can do that with pretty much an assault rifle with a good muzzlebreak
@e1ghtys1x and also, we're comparing a newer gun to a 50 year old design. Compare the AR to the AEK which still uses the AK platform design and the AEK achieves dime sizes groupings on Full Auto. Now the AEK dominates the AR in every way possible and it has AK designs.
@MRcalibrecincuenta What the hell are you talking about? the AR15 came out in 1958, its older than dirt. The AEK is not special in its groupings, there are many firarms that will achive simliar and supirior preformance.The AEK is just an AK with a counterweighted piston. Its still a 3-4 MOA rifle and they are not even for sale to civilians so why talki about it?
@MRcalibrecincuenta Rofl! I'd honestly love to see any AK shoot dime size groups. Even if it does, it wont after a few dozen rounds. The AR is still far more accurate, versatile, and ergonomic than any AK ever will be.
Besides, they make gas piston AR's that exceed the reliability of an AK, why aren't we comparing those?
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh You are joking right? I would put the highest quality Kimber against any off the shelf Glock and the Glock would be the victor hands down in terms of reliability. I've owned many Kimbers as well as Glocks. Glocks have better reliability than any production 1911...
@FireControlGroup That's why I had 3 jams from a glock 23 I tried. The controls on the glock were small as hell and it doesn't really balance well when you have a 1 1/4 pound slide on a 3 ounce frame. Unless I am handed one, I probably won't be buying the glock.
It seems like the ar needs a good cleaning!
meisnerandkinsey 5 hours ago
Ak is the way to go when it come down to it
Bigmatt7771 5 hours ago
AK-47= Reliable Weapon developed by Russia by a tank designer. 7.62 MM Round (RECOIL)
AR-15 Better 5.56 Low recoil. In my opinion AR-15. But, it really depends on the situation.
ThePlayallnight 1 day ago
ak will win because of 7.62 caliber instead of 5.56
bobbyverma94yahoo 2 days ago
Probably a dpms AR or some other knockoff brand. ARs have to be built to spec with high qc or this is what is going to happen. Eugene stoner never intended for corners to be cut in his design. I'd take a well built ar anyday. I like ak's though don't get me wrong
68wcountryboy 4 days ago
AR-15s are way better,people who choose the AK cant shoot for shit.The AR is much more accurate.The AK is the slut of weapons and the AR is the beauty queen.I own both and would take the AR all day.
OKLASOONER1OU 6 days ago
@OKLASOONER1OU I've seen people who couldn't shoot for shit with both AR's and AK's, and I've seen people who were greats shot with AK's and AR's. It's not the rifle, it's the asshole behind it that counts.
esh325 6 days ago
@esh325
I've had 3 of my AK's and 1 AR in a locked vice (no human element). The AR shot tighter groups at 150 yards than every single on the AK's. Even had a friend with a modded AK74 I believe, and the AR still shot tighter groups.
Again, I like both. They are equally fun to shoot and get the job done. Having said that, I think I'm seeing some AK bias in your comments...
cavalrytm 4 days ago
@cavalrytm With a scope? Everybody has bias. This is a fact.
esh325 4 days ago
@esh325
Yeah yeah, get off my lawn.
cavalrytm 2 days ago
@esh325 I could care less what you have to say dude
OKLASOONER1OU 3 days ago
I own both and they are both GREAT RIFLES. I did a quick and relatively cheap piston system conversion on my AR (like the H&K 416) so I only have to clean it about the same amount of times I clean the AK. AR shoots tighter groups at further ranges and the ammo weighs less, so I can carry more. However, AK is still a great gun thats accurate at medium range (note: put a "peep sight" on it).
Anyone who fights trying to pick the "best" are fags, and should be shot with 30 rounds from each gun.
cavalrytm 6 days ago
@cavalrytm I'm not an engineer, but slapping a piston conversion kit on a rifle never designed to use one in the first place is like asking for trouble. It might work fine initially, but it never will work as well as an AK in combat conditions. Perhaps its fine for range use though. The AK-74 has lighter magazines.
esh325 6 days ago
@esh325
"slapping a piston conversion kit on a rifle never designed to use one in the first place is like asking for trouble."
Wrong. It was a simple conversion, and improved the firearm. Reduces wear on parts, and completely eliminates dirty shit flying into the chamber. Cleaning half as often now.
"It might work fine initially, but it never will work as well as an AK in combat conditions."
Weird, because the military is planning on switching to an H&K 416 inspired piston AR rifle.
cavalrytm 4 days ago
@cavalrytm They specifically redesigned the M4 to take a piston with the HK416. They didn't just jimmy rig a piston on a M4. You don't have a HK416. The military hasn't said it will adopt a piston rifle. It's possible though.
esh325 4 days ago
@esh325
I forget the name of the competition or whatever the hell they are calling it, but they are trying to switch to a piston AR platform. Mine runs great, I've probably put 1000 or more rounds through it by now. Pretty easy to do with the 30 round mags I've got lol.
cavalrytm 2 days ago
@cavalrytm The individual carbine competition. Piston AR15's are in the competition, but that doesn't mean they will be adopted. They may or may not.
esh325 2 days ago
what did the video show us? That the AR was broken, that's all...
tezr0ck 1 week ago
Yes, one video with what's probably a shitty DSA AR or something similar absolutely proves that the AK wins. In terms of accuracy, notsomuch.
spazzypengin 1 week ago
They are faking it or the idiot probably doesn't know how to use a gun
1123359 1 week ago
That is not representative of all ars.
jakethewhale 1 week ago
Ar r the biggest piece of shit
AkJohn74 1 week ago
@AkJohn74 Actually your grammar is. Tell the professionals that use them such as 3 gun competitors and members of the various special forces that their rifle of choice is a piece of shit.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 1 week ago
@FiveTwoSevenTHR aww you mad
scandmx5atl 1 week ago
@scandmx5atl I don't see how you get the feeling that there was anger behind that post.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 1 week ago
That's why you shouldn't modify if you have no clue how to align a gas tube!
tbusa2 1 week ago
AK IS A MACHINE GUN AR IS A RIFLE AK is a buck knife ar is a scouple. each is the best at what they are designed to do. the shooters however, they are mostly smack tards!
johnnymagnum357 2 weeks ago
@johnnymagnum357 AK is a machine gun? AR is a rifle? I'm pretty sure they are both a rifle, and could be made into a machine gun. Either of them can be made into fully auto or whatever. By the way, the AR is not a SNIPER rifle, nor is the AK. They are both assault rifles. So the ak doesn't try to be accurate at 300 yds, it only tries for 100. And it hits so much harder:)
Voldness 1 week ago
So, get your rifle fixed, then do a real test. Might also want to clean it, both of you look like you have no military experience and those rifles are out of your league.
streakingcameraman 2 weeks ago
@streakingcameraman lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well atleast you hit the target.
johnnymagnum357 2 weeks ago
@johnnymagnum357 Yeah, I'm sorry. I just see these people buy rifles that they bought because they thought they were "Cool." After spending alot of time in the Army I cannot stop laughing at morons buying rifles they don't know how to shoot.
streakingcameraman 2 weeks ago
Love it.
bvscfanatic 2 weeks ago
Could be due to anything. It looked more like a bad ejector....or perhaps.....
marineooo5 2 weeks ago
both rifles are lame im going with the fn fal
hypnotoad2011 2 weeks ago
@hypnotoad2011 More power to you to use one. Too heavy and unergonomic for my tastes.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 1 week ago
the an-94 may not be the best assault rifle out there but blows the ar out of the water
challenger470hp 2 weeks ago
@challenger470hp How do you figure that? I'm sure you have countless hours using both rifles to come to that conclusion.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 1 week ago
@FiveTwoSevenTHR One: i actually have fired both rifles for countless hours and two: iv done my research, so i don't just base my opinion off of my own but its backed by info especially with its 2 round burst fire which i don't think the AR has
challenger470hp 1 week ago
@challenger470hp Let me get this straight, you appear to live outside of Russia, most likely in the US considering your name. Somehow you've been given the chance to be on the development team for a rifle that is still in prototype stage and is in very limited numbers with the Russian Police and the Russian Spetsnaz. Even after all those countless hours with the AR 15, you still aren't sure if it has two round burst. Don't bullshit me kid, I can see your pathetic lies.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 1 week ago
@FiveTwoSevenTHR one Ive served in the military as a marine officer and the an -94 is not a prototype its the one of the main assault rifles employed in the Russian federation armed forces and i am very sure it has two round burst and the AR does not the an-94 is known especially for this ability
and just shut up no wants a fricken troll around leave peoples opinions alone
challenger470hp 1 week ago
@challenger470hp One of the main assault rifles? There are only 1,000 copies of the rifle and in limited use by the Special forces and Police. How could you have possibly have countless hours of hands on experience with it? Answer that.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 1 week ago
@FiveTwoSevenTHR if you want to keep arguing and wasting your time you can but my opinion and facts stand strait its better than the AR 15, the AR 15 is a civilian semi automatic rifle it was produced for civilians
end of discussion
challenger470hp 1 week ago
@challenger470hp You're yet to post facts, just opinions.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 1 week ago
You both suck.
ridgerunner184 2 weeks ago
an-94 beats all
challenger470hp 3 weeks ago
@challenger470hp wrong
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
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hankhillinthisbiotch 3 weeks ago
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@hankhillinthisbiotch lol, you still butthurt over the FACTS i layed out for you? educate yourself you fucking feeb
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago in playlist gurls vs guns
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@HunterKiller308 you mad? haha
hankhillinthisbiotch 3 weeks ago
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@hankhillinthisbiotch you are just pathetic
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
Damn! Look at those tough keyboard warroirs battling it out :o
triggerhappybullets 3 weeks ago
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Presicion: a measurement system, also called reproducibility or repeatability, is the degree to which repeated measurements under unchanged conditions show the same results. Now that sounds more like grouping right? Now accuracy, Accuracy: the condition or quality of being true, correct, or exact; freedom from error or defect; correctness. Now that doesn't seem like grouping am I right? AR is NOT more accurate than AK, its more PRECISE.
MRcalibrecincuenta 3 weeks ago
AK all day
dwightyoakamftw 3 weeks ago
I've got several videos of ak47 on my channel... Check them out!!! Good video by the way!!!
19NilknarF92 3 weeks ago
if you replaced you extractors/ejectors every few thousand rounds you wouldnt have that problem..fucking ametuers
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
479 people paid too much for their AR :(
62hydrodyne 4 weeks ago
@62hydrodyne NO, 479 people realize what bullshit this video is
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
@62hydrodyne 479 people know how to replace an extractor.
e1ghtys1x 3 weeks ago
@e1ghtys1x 1490 people seldom have to.
62hydrodyne 2 weeks ago
OMG! The military channel :O!!!
MysteryoftheGods 4 weeks ago
@HunterKiller308 the M in AKM stands for "modernized" in russian. He kalashinkov took the ak47s design made a few changes to it and created the akm. And if that random torso hits statement was true, then how am I able to hit a melon sized target with my type 56 and wasr10 from 150m away? So 200 yards? I think itd be a little more accurate than body shots...
crackbaby1058 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 go up to ANY gun historian, collector, expert, veteran etc and tell them an M16 is superior to an AK-47. They'd have a heart attack. Also does the fact that we're comparing the oldest ak to the newest ar jump out at you? Lol stop being an internet tough guy. It doesnt make you look cool it makes you look like an ass. Whats the matter? Mommy and daddy not show you enough love growing up?
crackbaby1058 1 month ago
@crackbaby1058 you really are one stupid shit you know that?
you even know what the M in AKM means?
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 can you read? The accuracy of the m16 isnt an advantage because the ak is accurate out to 300m. Weight? Hey if you're a little girl I guess a 2 pound difference can help. recoil on the ak is pretty easy to control once you get used to it. And caliber options wont matter when bullets are shattering 2 feet away from you. What matters is the caliber in your gun.
crackbaby1058 1 month ago
@crackbaby1058 there is a big differance between accuracy and range kid, 300 yards with an AK is random torso hits at best.
"The accuracy of the m16 isnt an advantage" yeah thats why there were so many headshots taken in Iraq the UN thought Marines were executing people. most of them were taken well past 200 yards.
when someone is firing at you from a window the head is the only target you got, and if all YOU got is an AK your shit outta luck kiddo
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 300 yrds with an AK will be center mass, unless its you shooting.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
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@FireControlGroup buy a POF roller cam pin. It's round and there's no friction what so ever and it will never get stuck
HunterKiller308 4 weeks ago
@HunterKiller308 The headshots in fallujah you are refering to were actually between 200-250m, and That had more to do with the fact that those m16s had 4x ACOGs on them, An AK with a 4x scope can still hit a paper plate at those distances.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup whats your point? your not going to get a target as big as a paper plate. if someone isnt a moron like you they only expose upper half of their head and only enough of it to see with eye looking down the sights. that means LESS than 1/4 of the head is exposed when one can take advantage of both horizontal and verticle cover, such as a window. a 8" out of a 4 MOA rifle inst cutting it. not by a long shot. Your probably to stupid to understand any of this
HunterKiller308 4 weeks ago
@HunterKiller308 the 5.45 has the same crappy terminal ballistics of the 7.62x39, only on a smaller scale, going end over end twice and making an exit. with proper velocitys the 5.56 is going to do way more damage thru cavitation and fragmentation and when it doent have enough velocity to frag its going to yaw very much like a 5.45 since the round is tail heavy. the 5.56 is bigger than the 5.45 as well
ANYTHING A 5.45 CAN DO A 5.56 CAN DO BETTER
HunterKiller308 4 weeks ago
@crackbaby1058 Accurate to 300m? It's a 2moa rifle, that's a 6-7 inch group lying prone without stress. Not to mention the atrocious amount of drop the 7.62 x 39 experiences at that range.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
You dont think the ak will make it? I dont remember his name, search for him on google. There was a man who was so confident in his AKM he never cleaned it and fired it on a weekly basis. After not cleaning it for 19 years it finally jammed. Which isnt shocking considering in vietnam they plowed over dead vc with their aks and after they dug them up years later they fired just fine.
crackbaby1058 1 month ago
@e1ghtys1x stopping power, reliablility. The m16 in terms of performance has literally no advantage over the ak. "oh its a light weight gun" its not even 3 pounds lighter, which unless you're 13 won't make a difference. "it can mount optics and attachments" yeah the ak can too... And optics arent a big advantage at all. They matter very little. What actual advantages does the m16 have over the AK?
crackbaby1058 1 month ago
@crackbaby1058 you really are a fucking crack baby...a brain dead still born
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh so the M16s greater accuracy is almost a useless advantage. AKs have killed more people, have been copied more, and has a much better performance record than any ar varient. Sorry buddy but AK wins every day of the week.
crackbaby1058 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh lol I LOVE when people say its better because its more accurate... Firefights dont extend past 100m and the AK is accurate out to 300m. Good luck even seeing past 300m buddy. The sheer performance of the ak is better than that of the m16. Fires a more powerful round, is more reliable, has better iron sights, and isnt as long. AK-47 is a poor mans gun? Because if you found an actual AK-47 you could sell it for quite a large chunk of change considering AK-47s are very rare...
crackbaby1058 1 month ago
AK47 IS A POOR MANS GUN!!!
DaBlindKungFuMastuh 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastah thats got to be one of the most idiot statements ive heard in a long time. Im american, yet I would trust my life with an AK over an M16 any day. It like it because of its sheer performance capabilities that surpass that of the M16. And you are wrong, the reason the M16 jammed so much during vietnam was because it had been marketed as a weapon that never had to be cleaned (which was obviously bullshit)
crackbaby1058 1 month ago
@crackbaby1058 umm no the m16 owns the AK in performance capabilities....it's far more accurate and upgradeable
DaBlindKungFuMastuh 1 month ago
@crackbaby1058 By "sheer performance capabilities" you mean reliability right? Cuz that's the only thing an AK has over an AR.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@crackbaby1058 Accuracy, Modularity, Caliber Options, Recoil Managment, Weight, Balance, Ergonomics, Battery of Operation, the list of ares in which the AR is a supirior weapon over the AK goes on and on. how many Teir 1 Special Op units use ARs when they can get whatever they want? how many SWAT teams use ARs? how many professionals the world over use ARs? how many 3rd world dirt farmers use AKs? how many poor nations use AKs? how many radicals living in caves use AKs?
GET THE POINT?
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 That is because they do what everyone else does and they think the same thing, "well if the military uses the M4 then it must be the best" And besides third world dirt farmers and people in caves are smart enough to know that an AR wont work in those places, Where are you from? I mean what state?
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup so according to you Teir 1 Special operations groups, SWAT teams, and true 1st world professionals the world over cant think out side the box and make decisions for themselves. units that can have anything they want choose the AR platfrom
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 You forgot to talk about how a 10lbs M16 A4 is easier to swing around than a 7lbs AK
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup its more about balance, weight distribution that determines how fast you can swing a weapon onto target. not the weight itself.
on top of the ARs supirior balance it will be lighter than a AK of the same barrel length, think they use aluminum recivers and polymers for the fuck of it?
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 Just sounds to me like you have no experience with either.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
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@HunterKiller308 Just sounds to me like you have no experience with either.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
i think im going to get myself an HK53 come taxes
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 How? arent you unemployed? you are loaded down with thousands and thousands of dollars worth of firearms already? Maybe you should own one rifle and be an expert with it.
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mildot100 1 month ago
AK and AR vs. Twinki "TORTURE" test: /watch?v=9wIFsG0ey4g
antiigravity 1 month ago
@antiigravity i have nothing against the Glock, there great i own 3 of them, but i do prefer the balance and feel of a 1911, its a natural pointer and its been serving my military very well for over 100 years so it must be doing somthing right. Glocks have disadvantages too, in terms of balance, grip angel, thicknes and a sloppy trigger
there are pistols out there that are better than both the 1911 and Glock, just like there are rifles out there much better than both ARs and AKs
I LOVE H&K
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 For the price you cannot beat an AK, I would rather Arm 5 guys with wasr 10s buy 6 mags for each and fill those mags with ammo for the price of 1 HK MR556.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup i agree dollar for dollar you cant beat the AK for what you get, its an idiot proof military grade assault rifle that will last a life time and ANYONE can afford one. they arent tack drivers by any strech but when it comes to a DEFENCIVE rifle who gives a shit?
however im not worried about arming a large group of men and be cost effective about it. there are far better offerings out there and i want the best i can get my hands on. AKs are extremely low end, the bare minimum
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 Yet being extremely "low end" they are more reliable than the highest end ARs, funny huh? Defensive or OFFENSIVE they are king, they are the best you can get your hands on, you are just that guy, that COOLGUY, like all the other TACTICOOLGUYS that allegedly owns every HK and AR and owns more guns than magazines and ammo and every firearm you own is pristine because you will never actually train and push yourself or your weapon to the limit.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup 2MOA, that's the AK limit. It does even worse as the barrel heats up and you're under stress.
What about the idiots that buy an AK and don't train with it because they think it'll make them the king of the battlefield?
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup Honestly, I'd take the HK, unless those guys are trained, they'll probably end up hurting each other.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 what disadvantages do glocks have? SLOPPY TRIGGERS? have you ever even held one? Or fired it? the 1911 was replaced in the 80s by the m9 (which is a shitty pistol) My Glock or my M&P will outperform any production 1911 or HK
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup I think he meant spongy. I like the trigger on the Glock, I just dislike the cramped controls and poor balance.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
that AK is beatin that kid up lmao.
jpnp1016 1 month ago
Goddamn both the 5.56 and 7.62x39 will put a nice hole in a Zombies head. WHATS THE BIG DEAL! I have both the AR and AK and they are my FAVORITE rifles of all time. Stop being fan boys and shoot both and you'll appreciate both!
MRcalibrecincuenta 1 month ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta the AK is for people who cant afford an AR or a nice HK
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 Not really. My AK was almost as expensive as my AR. The higher end AKs are pretty pricey. And why do you say that? The AK and AR are nothing alike, if people get an AK is because they want an AK not because they can't afford an AR. ARs are nice, AKs are my absolute favorite. No cleaning no nothing, won't jam up with a grain of sand. My AR has jammed on me at the fucking range imagine if that was in a war. And my AR is not POS its an LMT.
MRcalibrecincuenta 1 month ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta sounds like you cant shop for shit. you can get yourself a fine Hungarian AK47 for $600 or mod a Saiga reciver yourself on the cheap, it will do anything one of those over priced Arsenal AKs will do
sounds like you dont know how to keep your rifle lubed or you like to use shitty Russian steel cased garbage
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 Arsenal's are fine. Plus it's all they had at my local shop and i was not going to drive out for hours just to get a gun. And i don't lube them because i want to compare both of them to see which gun functions better when you don't clean them. So far the AK has been winning. No jams EVER. I have not have one jam or anything since the day i have gotten it. My AR has jammed a few times at the range. Goddamn just look at this video, the AR jammed like no other.
MRcalibrecincuenta 1 month ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta this video dosent prove shit, the stupid kid dosent understand high wear parts have a shelf life, things wear down. for example its a good idea to replace the extractors and ejectors on an AR every 4000 rounds.
AR reliability issues come from incompatent users not keeping it lubed, not replacing worn parts and using crappy mags and ammo.
....by the way we arent limited to what billy bob has behind the counter now adays, you can order anything you want on the net
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 And with the AK you don't have to do any of that. Goddamn the AR sounds more like a fucking car rather than a tool that is suppose to save your life. Don't get me wrong i love my AR, but the AK owns the AR in reliability in every way possible.
MRcalibrecincuenta 1 month ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta "The AK owns the ar in reliability in every way possible".
I do hope you realize how your comment makes no sense whatsoever.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta everything is a compromise, any finer, higher prefroming machine will require more maintenance, and that is a non issue when you know what your doing
replacing a couple parts every few thousand rounds and keeping the action lubed is no big deal when given all the advantages in term of prefromance
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 What if its during a survival event and you can't get a hold of those parts? See, the AK wins because there is no parts to replace.
MRcalibrecincuenta 1 month ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta If it was war, I'd imagine you'd clear the jam and be on your way.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@e1ghtys1x What if it was at Close quarters and my AR jammed, the enemy had his rifle already pointed at me and shot me. No time to get out the side arm. I'd be on my way home in a box.
MRcalibrecincuenta 1 month ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta If it was close quarters in anything short of a sandstorm then you wouldn't have any problems. Provided you know what you're doing. Do you know how to drop some oil on the bolt carrier every 1000-2000 rounds.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@e1ghtys1x not if your weapon malfunctions within arms reach of a somoli with a rifle or machete. your dead then
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup "Within arms reach". We are talking about rifles aren't we? Besides, you could always smash him across the jaw with the stock.
This is still pretty pointless, I've never had a jam from an AR, they get cleaned every 1000 rounds and they work well.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@e1ghtys1x I dont think you could flip your AR around to horizontal butt stroke someone faster than they can pull a trigger or swing a machete. Sounds like you are the typical benchrest shooter.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I can swing a 14 inch buttstock faster than someone can swing a 3 foot machete, besides I could always block the machete.
Pull the trigger? If he's close enough for me to hit him and he has any gun at all, than I would be dead even if my rifle was working.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 I can afford them, i just dont like unreliability.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
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@FireControlGroup " I can afford them, i just dont like unreliability"
what are you talking about exactly?
if its 1911s it really depends on the make and model, as well as AR15s. it really boils down to the individual firearm, the basic design of both forearms are sound ones
if your talking about any H&K your insane
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
MINi 14!
MrAppleseed88 1 month ago
people just say ak47 is better cause they hate americans and m16 is american weapon -.-
DaBlindKungFuMastuh 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh Considering you see Special Operations units using the AK, it has nothing to do with hating Americans, it has everything to do with realiability. The AR is flawed in the realiability department. The AK is an excellant weapon system that has proven itself time and time and time again. Its not about hate, but about the truth.
Suidakkra 1 month ago
@Suidakkra yeah some Spec Ops units use the AK to blend in with the population or when they dont want to leave NATO casings behind...thats about it
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh I say that it is a better assault rifle based on my experience shooting and owning both systems, it has nothing to do with hating americans, I like glocks and hate 1911s, doesnt mean I hate america, I just prefer reliability.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup a 1911 is more reliable then a glock...
DaBlindKungFuMastuh 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh far from it, The glock is a substantially more reliable.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup maybe the match grade options built with high tolerances, 1911's built around looser tolerances without all the bells and wistles the put on them now are very reliable side arms
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 Colt 1911 Drawbacks: /watch?v=xORMr-GmKNc
antiigravity 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 Glock Torture test: /watch?v=Ygcfp40RTKs
antiigravity 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 Stock Glock Buried for 2 YEARS: /watch?v=bj5Kcs4dzro Eat your heart out :)
antiigravity 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 Ultimate Glock Destruction Torture: /watch?v=_ENZioGLjMI
antiigravity 1 month ago
@antiigravity Yeah that's great, I had a Glock jam on me several times, why? It hadn't been oiled. It's nice to know that I can bury my Glock and then have it jam because I didn't oil it.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@e1ghtys1x Well what if i was in a sandstorm then i didn't know sand got caught in the chamber as i was firing it, then i went inside a house to clear it and it happened there? I'd be 6ft underground. Or what if its during a survival event where oil is very hard to get? See, AK47 is superior.
MRcalibrecincuenta 1 month ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta You do know there's a dustcover don't you?
Where oil is hard to get? How many homes have cars? Motor oil, hoppes 9, that 3 in 1 stuff they sell at home depot, you only need 4-5 drops every thousand rounds.
Yea, if you're on mars where there's no oil, than the AK is superior, you're telling me you can't afford a $4 bottle of gun oil?
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@e1ghtys1x Yes theres a dustcover but once your shooting it opens. And well picture a scenario where almost everything is scarce. Oil is all dried up because everybody has been taking it. I mean would an AR be able to be buried for 18 years, dug up, and be fully functional with a little bit of oil? I really doubt it, the AK on the other hand, is proven with this video (watch?v=RgrJElGOMMg)
MRcalibrecincuenta 1 month ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta Like I said you only need 4-5 drops, are you telling me you can't keep a few bottles of oil on hand? 1 bottle of oil will last several years.
Yes it will, there are videos of the ar-15 being dumped in water and buried in sand with the dustcover off and still functioning. If you buried it with the dustcover on then it will work just fine when you dig it out.
Tell me sir, when will I feel the need to bury my rifle?
e1ghtys1x 4 weeks ago
@e1ghtys1x After around 2000 rounds i'd figure you'd need more than 4-5 drops. And oil would probably dry up quickly since everybody would be using it and over time it would be hard to get a hold of. You don't need to bury your rifle but its a very good test to prove it's reliability. If it could withstand 18 years of mud, rain, dirt, rust and everything, it can withstand something minor. I highly doubt an AR could be buried for 18 years and be fired like it was new.
MRcalibrecincuenta 4 weeks ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta Alright then fine, 10-12 drops after 2000 rounds. But it's still only 10-12 drops. Are you telling me you can't keep a bottle of oil around? How many drops are in your average bottle of hoppes 9? You will run out of ammo way before you run out of oil.
I think the AR would be fine after 18 years in the dirt.
e1ghtys1x 3 weeks ago
@e1ghtys1x I really doubt an AR would be fine after 18 years in the mud, rain, rust, and everything. AK has been proven to be more reliable than the AR. As much as you want the AR to be more reliable, it just won't beat the AK. It wasn't named the number 1 rifle for no reason. I have one AR but they are way too much. I'm just going to start collecting AKs.
MRcalibrecincuenta 3 weeks ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta dont be so blind
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta As I've stated several times there are videos of AR's being buried in sand, water, and mud and working like new afterwards. Just type in ar-15 torture test.
Actually it was named no.1 rifle for reliability and cost. That's it. Otherwise the AR is a faster, more accurate, more versatile, and all around more capable gun.
e1ghtys1x 3 weeks ago
@e1ghtys1x Sure, but they are definitely not as reliable as the AK. The AK dominates the AR in reliability. I have an AR and it is reliable, but my point is that it isn't as reliable as an AK because that was what the AK was designed for. An AR trades reliability, for precision. The AR isn't more accurate because people measure accuracy with group sizing. That's called precision. An AK can easily hit a man sized target up to 400 yards, thats more than enough to put someone down.
MRcalibrecincuenta 3 weeks ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta Wrong. Accuracy is a measure of consistency. you have no idea what your talking about. yeah you might be able to tag a full man sized target at 300 yards, but so what? its random torso shots with a 4 MOA rifle like an AK at that distance. it that "target was laying prone or using cover only leaving his head exposed you would be shit outa luck. the AR is an extremely reliable weapon when operated by somone who knows what they are doing.
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
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MRcalibrecincuenta 3 weeks ago
@HunterKiller308 (cont) Accuracy just means what you hit. Precision is what most people call "accuracy". So in terms, the AK is plenty accurate because you can hit man sized targets up to 300 yards. And it's the shooter not the gun. Even a shitty shooter with an AR wouldn't be able to get a headshot on someone with cover. At least the AK has a chance to blow through that cover.
MRcalibrecincuenta 3 weeks ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta hell it would take 10 rounds of 5.56 to kill someone anyway lol
scandmx5atl 3 weeks ago
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@scandmx5atl "hell it would take 10 rounds of 5.56 to kill someone anyway"
proves beyond a doubt you have no clue what your talking about. within proper fragmentation thresholds the 5.56x45 is far more lethal than 5.45x39 and 7.62x39 with their yaw going end over end twice before making an exit. Thru much larger cavitation and multiple wound channels with zero weight retention and immediate transfer of energy, thus greater blood loss and blood pressure drop. Educate yourself fool
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
@scandmx5atl I'm sure your experience using this rifle in combat allows you to say that. Wait, you don't have combat experience? Then where do you come up with that conclusion other than pure ignorance?
FiveTwoSevenTHR 1 week ago
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@HunterKiller308 Ok, i'll define them. Presicion: a measurement system, also called reproducibility or repeatability, is the degree to which repeated measurements under unchanged conditions show the same results. Now that sounds more like grouping right? Now accuracy, Accuracy: the condition or quality of being true, correct, or exact; freedom from error or defect; correctness. Now that doesn't seem like grouping am I right?
MRcalibrecincuenta 3 weeks ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta What? Just what? How the fuck else do you measure accuracy then?
The AK can hit a man sized target at 400 yards benchrested, without stress, with a cold barrel. And name one human being on this planet that will stand still and let you shoot them.
e1ghtys1x 3 weeks ago
@e1ghtys1x Here is video of proof. Its around 0:35 (watch?v=gOozMdEV_AU). And so a shooter would hit someone at 400 yards under stress, with a hot barrel automatically without missing because they have an AR right? LOL. It's the shooter not the gun. And accuracy just means hitting what you aim for. PRECISION is putting holes next to one an other. Obviously your a fanboy of the AR but as much as you try to say it's not and this and that, the majority agree that the AK is much better.
MRcalibrecincuenta 3 weeks ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta the AN-94 is not special in it preformance on full auto, The AEK-971 was prone to malfunction and is no longer is production. You can do that with pretty much an assault rifle with a good muzzlebreak
/watch?v=QKjuC4aXHgg&feature=channel_video_title
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
@e1ghtys1x and also, we're comparing a newer gun to a 50 year old design. Compare the AR to the AEK which still uses the AK platform design and the AEK achieves dime sizes groupings on Full Auto. Now the AEK dominates the AR in every way possible and it has AK designs.
MRcalibrecincuenta 3 weeks ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta What the hell are you talking about? the AR15 came out in 1958, its older than dirt. The AEK is not special in its groupings, there are many firarms that will achive simliar and supirior preformance.The AEK is just an AK with a counterweighted piston. Its still a 3-4 MOA rifle and they are not even for sale to civilians so why talki about it?
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta Rofl! I'd honestly love to see any AK shoot dime size groups. Even if it does, it wont after a few dozen rounds. The AR is still far more accurate, versatile, and ergonomic than any AK ever will be.
Besides, they make gas piston AR's that exceed the reliability of an AK, why aren't we comparing those?
e1ghtys1x 3 weeks ago
@HunterKiller308 yea and no 1911 can match a glock, not one can
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup This true. I have shot many 1911's from WW1,WW2, to modern day and none are as reliable as a Glock.
esh325 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup I do hope your joking, 1911's shoot WAY better than glocks.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@e1ghtys1x Maybe for you.
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup depends...maybe more reliable then a taurus 1911 but not a kimber
DaBlindKungFuMastuh 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh You are joking right? I would put the highest quality Kimber against any off the shelf Glock and the Glock would be the victor hands down in terms of reliability. I've owned many Kimbers as well as Glocks. Glocks have better reliability than any production 1911...
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup Kimbers suck shit dude, especially if its not broken in. over priced garbage
you want a really good 1911 get a Springfeild
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh Kimber's are over priced peices of shit. get a Springfeild
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh yea a kimber or any 1911 will get beat by a $500 glock or M&P
FireControlGroup 1 month ago
@FireControlGroup That's why I had 3 jams from a glock 23 I tried. The controls on the glock were small as hell and it doesn't really balance well when you have a 1 1/4 pound slide on a 3 ounce frame. Unless I am handed one, I probably won't be buying the glock.
e1ghtys1x 1 month ago
@e1ghtys1x You were prolly limp wristing the pistol, Im su