Honda FCX Clarity Concept/ In-Depth: Overview

[66Metalforlife66]

the republicans are in bed with oil companies though..its a fact

[timewatch12]

If we concentrate on using oil for energy to produce other fuels like hydrogen, the oil needed will be less as people are using hydrogen car instead of petrol. Also make things more efficient by having a diesel generator on a car, worked in top gear! and will use less fuel than a regular petrol car! good luck people!

[speakntruth]

@alanmorgan1986 - Apparently you must work for "big oil" and seem to believe that energy needs to come from coal or oil, but it does NOT. Water is cheap, as is solar energy. Do you realize how much energy is wasted just drilling for oil or mining for coal? There is no reason to hold people hostage to the dirty "black gold" that the oil companies refer to as oil or coal. Hydrogen burns much cleaner, and electric can come from High Output Solar Roofing Shingles, Hydro turbines, or wind turbines.

[speakntruth]

The U.S. Government needs to give Americans interest-free loans (and government grants) to roof homes with solar roofing shingles, and equip these homes with an $1,800 electrolysis (hydrogen generator) and simply backfeed the surplus clean electricity back into the local power grid, and backfeed the surplus clean hydrogen produced into the Natural Gas lines. Make fossil fuels illegal by 2013, and use all those old NG lines for Hydrogen. NG, Propane, and Hydrogen all can use the same lines.

[boringlecture]

You have to realize my friend that we're not creating energy, we're harnessing it with very primitive technology. The perfect machine runs in harmony with the universe.

[speakntruth]

America needs to get rid of Oil, and Fossil fuels. I believe if we made them illegal by 2013, it would clearly push innovation in America. Americans needs new high output Solar Roofing Shingles, and Hydrogen Generators. Honda is way ahead of the game, and with a "Hydrogen Generator" for $1,800 you can mount it in your garage, and plug it into a garden hose, and plug it into a standard electrical outlet and produce a gallon of Hydrogen for about 4 cents. Which "big oil" is really upset about.

[alanmorgan1986]

@speakntruth Everything you use daily is made from crude oil. plastic, patroleum jelly, make up, there are so many things made from it. The electricity in houses is from coal. which is a fossil fuel. and it is not only America it is everywhere.

[speakntruth]

Once America is 100% clean energy (Hydrogen, Solar, and Wind) we can easily have ZERO pollution, but the biggest propaganda machine is the "big oil" companies that spends millions of dollars on ad campaigns, and pay people to spread propaganda to try and slow down (or stop) clean energy technologies (such as Hydrogen Fuel Cells, Electrolysis, and Wind and even Hydropower).

[speakntruth]

Hydrogen has ZERO pollution. It's 100% clean energy.

Sure, the Big Oil companies try to spread their silly propaganda, and claim that "oil" and "coal" are used to produce electricity, therefore we still have pollution. Nope, all we need to do is switch over to Wind, and Solar, and completely eliminate Coal and Oil, and we won't have ANY pollution.

[sierracuban]

YES.....Some of these stupid comments sound

like BIG OIL is putting them here.....THEY MUST BE RUNNING SCARED.......Hydrogen is HERE and NOW.....It will just take a few years to make it

more affordable.....NECESSITY will take care of

the rest......OIL IS A DYING DINOSAUR........

[speakntruth]

Peterbob,

You seem to either work for a "big oil" company or you seem to have rocks for brains.

As an engineer, I can tell you that HYDROGEN is nothing more than water. So having a hydrogen car is like having a vehicle that runs on WATER. Yes, the earth is over 80+% water. We have such an abundance of water on this planet, it only makes sense to migrate away from fossil fuels (big oil) and move towards clean energy Hydrogen and Solar.

[strata1972]

Burning natural gas is still a pollution, not as bad as gasoline, but once again we are still using a internal combustion engine. Hydrogen can be produced many ways, the argument that fossil fuels must be used to produce hydrogen is Big Oils story. Big Oil leaks this argument to the media outlets to muddy a obvious clear solution to using way less of their precious oil. Remember.. hard to justify a war in the middle east if you don't need as much oil.

[peterbob101]

so where are you going to get cheap hydrogen. and big oil wants the hydrogen car watch the videos of people filling there hydrogen cars there all at big oil filling stations thats the only way you are going your going to get your hydrogen

[wtfAmericawtf]

gee , last time i looked you can make your own hydrogen from water thru electrolisis

[peterbob101]

and that takes a lot of electricity, a pump to compress it, a tank to store it and a home in the country because I don't think any city has zoning for hydrogen tanks you can keep in your back yard or in your apartment so electrolysis at home won't work so you are left buying it from big oil

[wtfAmericawtf]

actually unless you live in an apt or condo, many homes have enough room and at this point in time can get permits for propane tanks. most homes from the mid west to the west coast have enough room to have a tank. Unless i am mistaken, solar pumps have the ability to store hydrogen. There is a green house that runs his hole house off solar, and the excess is used to split hydrogen and store it for use in his car and home

[peterbob101]

send the web site of the company that sells a solar powered pump that can compress hydrogen to 5000 psi and you only can get a propane tanks if you don't have a natural gas line in front of your home and 62% of homes do and a propane tank is a lot different that a hydrogen tank and that guy that runs his house on hydrogen has 10 huge tanks in his back yard and spent $300,000 to build all of it

[tnguyen318]

It is more efficient to turn hydorgen gas into electrcity for what you are driving. Because electricity has a lot of torque. It is 75,000 degrees F and revolutions at 12,000 RPM. The Honda FCX Clarity is an excellent car.

[peterbob101]

why take electricity turn it into hydrogen put it in to a car then turn the hydrogen back into electricity to power the car when you can skip the hydrogen and put the electricity into the car? and the cheapest way to make hydrogen right now is to take natural gas and strip the carbon off it would make more sense to just burn the natural gas to power the car

[rifleman005]

u suck

[peterbob101]

WOW you make such a convincing argument

[rifleman005]

yeah i know its soooooooooooooo good :P

[peterbob101]

hydrogen fuel cell car will never work

[malgacho]

agreed.

[DeltaNC]

Yeah! Just like the one on the video! It wasn't working at all when it was powering down the road there!

[peterbob101]

it will cost to much

[DeltaNC]

So does everything at a prototype stage. Mass production drives down costs.

[peterbob101]

the hydrogen will cost to much

[peterbob101]

you don't understand you can't just pump hydrogen out of the ground you have to make it and that takes energy so it will away be cheaper to use the first from of energy to run the car

[DeltaNC]

I think it is you who does not fully understand.

How could they make a wind / hydro / thermal / solar / nuclear powered car? You cant! These are not a practical solutions. Cars need power whenever wherever and hydrogen fuel cells offer this by consuming stored hydrogen.

All you need to generate hydrogen is water and electricity. This will be much easier and cheaper to produce than drilling up and refining fossil fuels.

Petrol and batteries are not a long term solution. Hydrogen is.

[kofothree]

this looks like santa monica... maybe on montana

[subscooby]

Many criticisms of this car kind of miss the point. It may not be a practical reality right now, and may have problems, but the first cars, or the first planes, or even the first bicycles were hardly practical machines.

This car is inventive, which is what we need to be in the face of the massive problems we face right now.

[matteatspie]

finally someone who just acknowedges that this is just one of hopefully many good alternative energy cars, and doesnt get bogged down in what is 'better'

[WKaliberr]

Honda as always is the innovator. Chevrolet, GM, Chrystler still will be making shitty useless cars 20 years from now.... unless they go out of business which I hope they do.

[hotcuts6064]

i want one

[LasteroBlue]

I really hope the world will pick up on these cars and take them to their hearts now!

[Zer07jk]

SEE: Making Efficient Hydrogen Production a Reality here on youtube

[Zer07jk]

....How much is the environmental pollution, now being shifted away from the vehicle, going to cost us? It would be nice to see, and making it happen, that the Arabs will be sitting on their unsold oil reserves and Shell/Texaco going bust hahaha

[sil40Drift]

Nah, Oil wont go out of style.

If hydrogen takes over which I hope it DOES, it will free up the oil for recreational use, so those of us who are car enthusiasts can enjoy the feel and performance of our analog/manual cars.

I will of course own one for daily use if i can afford one.

[Zer07jk]

What I mean is, what are the technical childhood diseases of this car at this moment? 2nd; how much energy (what source will be used...oil?) does it cost to produce one kilo of hydrogen, 1:1 or 2:1 uuhh 3:1? And how much will it cost at the filling station against the gallon of gas? ....

[Zer07jk]

Hi, This is to me the future. If soon possible in Europe, I am going to buy the FCX Clarity. My only worry is; "malfuction of electronics at/on critical moments", like a breakdowen on the side of a motorway. Triple AAA saying, 'duhhh I don't know'' and the dutch police fine's me because I'm stranded there with an unknown car type.

[emforty2]

The first?

Honda is showing us what the future will be

the Volt? its still uses an internal combustion engine after a 30mile electric demo

[amoringis]

This car is already awesome. The fuel cell charging the battery so the car run electric. I think Honda could improve this very quickly in the future with development of good battery technology. They can convert this into plug in hybrid with good initial range probably 100 miles. The only time fuel cell charge is when the battery charge is running out. This will be the end of Middle eastern oil as fuel for cars and also better for mother earth!!!

[Acules08]

In other words, Honda is the shit...

I cant wait for fuel cell cars. Im going to stick with honda, as they make the best gasoline cars, and will make the best fuel cell cars!

[Stevensz45]

thats a nice car.

[freedombiteback]

How do you turn hydrogen into electric? this is a electric driven car (has a electric motor)...

[GunnarAztek]

take hydrogen, add oxygen, when it snaps together you get, 1. energy, 2. water...

[freedombiteback]

How do you turn hydrogen into electric? this is a electric driven car (has a electric motor /a warp 9 Motor),no Engine!...

[harshvgaus]

my father's research colleague was working on hydrogen fuel cells about 10 years ago.

i remember about 6 years ago i asked him a few questions about renewable resources for my school project. i talked about solar, electric etc, but he just smiled and said hydrogen fuel cell.

i guess the dream has come true.

[peterkehoe]

how clean is the separation process of hydrogen from oxygen in the first place? it cant be 100% efficient... 1st law of thermodynamics. so do we start to develope nuclear energy to fill the gap? or wind turbines?

[GunnarAztek]

energy in iceland is 100% green, no nuclear, no coal, nothing like that, only green renewable energy.

too bad the hydrogen revolution isn't here yet...

[amoringis]

That is true but is not 100%. Your energy comes from geothermal. You may call them natural energy source but they are one of the biggest source of of greenhouses gases that pollute the atmosphere aside from cow's fart.. which we have a lot of them in the US.

[ericdallastx]

Refueling this car is not going to necessarily pollute. Hydrogen can be produced by using non-polluting energy sources such as wind, solar etc.

It moves the onus of pollution control to the hydrogen manfacturers instead of the car owners. In return, we have clean efficient cars with no government emmission regulations etc.

[hsbyan]

Hydrogen is not our future... 0 emission from your car.. mucho emission from hydrogen factory...

[jehnubis]

Sorry yall, i dont get these engineering IDIOTS. Why doesn't a car company make a car that utilize ALL power sources. A little bit of gas, a little bit of solar, a little bit of electricity, a litle bit of wind, and a little bit of hydrogen!

Why does the next fuel source have to be always DEPENDENT, on just ONE fuel source?

[stevedabear]

Summation of efficiencies tends to lead to an overall efficiency that is lower than the most efficient source.

Not only that, but in general the only way to achieve that would be to use an electric car, powered by a combination of renewable sources.. A fair amount of the time electric cars are not practical, and if you're going to have them for local travel, you might as well buy a bike.

[THROWDOWN671FOKAI]

For $600 a month for this ride, Honda can go to hell.

[Marsumursu]

600$ rent. Why don't you buy it. And that rent includes all accident and repairing costs.

[dunkystevenjames]

because the car costs honda $500,000 to manufacture so they are offering it as a subsidy. they also want the cars back at the end of the 3 years to evaluate them.

[carreviews]

this is why idiots review cars. You have to get hydrogen somewhere and create pollution as he says. WTF. why not get hydrogen from water ? ? using clean electriticy from sun and wind power? ? why not have a hydrogen electrolizer in your home and you can use it to fill this car and cook? ?

we should be asking these tough questions to automakers.

[hemiram04]

Yeah they always babble about the stupid shit that doesn't matter but seems to impress people the most. Like a stupid fucking chrome strip in the front, who cares?!?! show it getting refuled and talk about how much it costs to refuel.

[kevagonia]

not really an idiot, just stating the honest truth for THIS car, that you have to pollute to refuel.

[Contentisking]

A water-fuelled car is the stupidest idea I've heard. Just like biofuels. Duh. What about people get off their lazy butts and walk/bike/use public transit more?

[XXdriver2000XX]

Not everyone works localy these days, many have to travel to work. Besides, people don't want to cycle eveywhere, its not practical. Like it or not cars are here to stay, they are probably the most inovative and convenient invention ever made. They just have to be green, or at least not run on arab dominated oil

[ceriman]

This isn't "water fueled" it is hydrogen fueled. Hydrogen is an extremely low density gas, much lighter than air, and highly flammable. Water is a dense liquid and does not burn. Please learn the difference

[synikster]

Its a start. You do realize that Hydrogen is derived from WATER. Hence the word, H2o.

Hydrogen + Oxygen = Water

You break out the Oxygen and you Hydrogen.

This is out future, water is abundant guys.! Clean fuel...!

[faddikhan]

If thats so ,, bring army out of iraq ... americans went there for fuel .. alternative energy has been invented. make world better place to live now .. Peace Peace Peace.

[ahmer9800]

hydrogen derived from water?

are you stupid?

hydrogen has nothing to do with water.

it's a element on it's own.

It doesn't 'Come' from water.

damn you're dumb.

[dhochee]

Hey Mr. Troll. I'll play along.

Two thirds of the atoms in water (H2O) are hyrdrogen. Electrolysis uses electricity to separate the hyrdrogen from the oxygen.

[synikster]

Are you stupid are dumb? Did I say it comes from water? I said water has hydrogen in it! Where you can extract the oxygen out of the water, where its left, is HYDROGEN! Stupid!

"Water is the chemical substance with chemical formula H2O: one molecule of water has two hydrogen atoms covalently bonded to a single oxygen atom."

If you don't know so, FVK TARD! Know you damn chemistry before you open your mouth.

[zerospec2]

you confused him by using "derived"  from water

making him think that you said hydrogen comes from water

but i get what youre saying

[cpc52]

yay!!!! you made your world announcement on youtube

[kevagonia]

fleeble flabble birkenstockems

[ceriman]

Stan Meyers was convicted of fraud, he was selling dealerships and investments, but never provided any devices - his scam would be over if anyone actually tested it, as it didn't work the way he claimed. His car ran on a hidden fuel tank, the electrolyzer bubbling away was just to fool the dupes.

Stan is gone, but others have picked up the fraud and are running with it.

[PlanetThoughts]

The idea that we can guarantee no nuclear leaks for even 100 years is a joke... there are significant nuclear leaks at a number of power plants. Instead of nuclear, many have calculated that we can more than replace all the energy needs in the United States and the world with wind, photovoltaic, and other solar energy. There are home-hydrogen production units that run off water and electricity. The simple way is clean electricity including home-made electricity, and hydrogen or electric cars.

[venichen1]

We want more hydrogen refuelling stations!

[grandhavenmichigan]

im only 13 but i want it

[arkor7]

Cool!

[wtfAmericawtf]

Ok answer me this. Why did they go to a hydrogen electric? And all hydrogen standard motor works fine, right? So instead they have to add a lot of batteries so that now you have to go and replace a bunch of environmentally unfriendly batteries, at a high cost. yes i know the std engines need oil for lubrication but 1. who says you have to use petr. based lubricants, and 2) there is still plenty enough oil resv to handle lubrication. Sounda like a "cell-out" to me

[Heiko959]

Well, it might be smart to recycle these batteries...think about it...

[DeltaNC]

Fuel cell cars do not need batteries. The Clarity has a small-ish one as a auxiliary power source. The main drive of the car is powered directly by the fuel cell converting stored hydrogen into electricity.

Fuel cells are more efficient than combustion and the resulting car is much simpler to build and maintain.

[iggyfan66]

Wow once again Honda leads the pack in innovation and courage! Kudos to Honda for taking this important step forward I hope it pans out for them.

[coosess]

Yeah, you do have to burn oil or coal to produce hydrogen fuel, however witht the re-energized proliferation of nuclear power, I could see that being the source! I mean the French are all nuclear, why can't we?

[Mmunchies]

yep, gotta analyze the entire life cycle. I think we arent all nuclear because we have a lot of environmental groups lobbying against it (for good reason in many ways). However, i have been reading books on human existence, and i really dont see humans being around for 10,000 years. So the nuclear waste storage facility being built should be sufficient. im torn on the whole issue. I think we need to utilize nuclear energy to combat a more pressing issue, global climate change due to GHG emission

[balrog1111]

can u telll me more about this GHG it sounds interesting.

[coosess]

Yeah, you do have to burn oil or coal to produce hydrogen fuel, however witht the re-energized proliferation of nuclear power, I could see that being the source! I mean the French are all nuclear, why can't we?

[lee5537]

Did he say to make the fuel for them would make pollution somewhere else?. To make the hydrogen is also pollution free. DUMB ASS

[qwertyuiopPokemon]

I totally need this car!

[k9forkids]

Please YouTube "Hemp Oil" The Story of Rick Simpson. High Concentrated THC Cures Cancer and many other diseases. What The Government does not want you to know!

[shootemupy2k]

Plug in electrics suffer greatly when compared to fuel cell or combustion hydrogen vehicles in one key way. Weight. Since a plug in electric has to store all of the energy in heavy and expensive batteries their range suffers. They may technicaly be more efficient but hydrogen offers the greatest gains while still maintaining a reasonable range and performance.

[k9forkids]

all H-Fueling Stations are Solar powered, No pollution what so ever.

[ceriman]

Honda made ONE solar powered H2 filling station. The rest, including those built by oil companies, get their H2 by reacting CH4 (natural gas) with H20 (steam) to get 6 H2 and 1 CO2. Honda will also sell a $50,000 "home energy station" that makes H2 from natural gas in the same way.

[Willux]

let me correct you on that... it's 4H2 not 6

CH4 + 2H2O --> 4H2 + CO2

[ceriman]

Thanks for the correction. Thats what I get for typing too fast and not thinking fast enough.

[Willux]

but honestly while reading about this car it said that there are 0 emissions or zero CO2

[oung77]

H bomb

[forxtv]

Cheap shot with the remark about "pollution somewhere", since the reviewer didn't read how C02 emissions were reduced 30% in the making of this car, compared to all other cars made.  Pretty soon the oil barons will be on the endangered species list.

[JustPlaneNuts]

Agreed. I'm still not sold on fuel cells though. Plug in electric is still more efficient. But I will be watching this closely. We need to get away from Internal combustion/fossil fuels.

[DeltaNC]

Plug in electric is not practical, its a step backwards in personal transportation.

[coosess]

And that means the middle eastern muslims will become a whole lot more friendly

[Nightbird]

Great review! I think this car is beautiful to look at, and I wish the Accord had this body shape without the hydrogen element. The new Accord look pretty generic, but this FCX is absolutely gorgeous!

[cebga]

is there a hydro refuel in las vegas area? if there is im going to buy that car!

[ceriman]

You can't buy it, it will be a 3 year $600 per month lease only. I believe there is one H2 filling station in Vegas, but government owned and not open to the public.

[iabhornc]

That's basically the same thing Honda's website said (about its availability and fueling stations).

[tribluered]

Good Amount of Info!