@auvar100 They used what they had at hand, were it headgear, weapons or vehicles. We didn't have much in the way of large scale manufacturing capacity, so anything that worked was used. Hell, during Winter War we used cannons that dated to the late 1800's!
@auvar100 Reason why we used German helmets were: Germans helped us to win the civil war 1918. We used Soviet Helmets because we didn´t have enough helmets for entire army of 300 000 men by 30.11 1939 and still we didn´t have enough helmets for 500 000 men by 25.6 1941.
There were recorded instrances where the Finns attacked Russian tanks with logs trying to dislodge the tracks. That my friends takes balls of steel. Never underestimate the courage of a man defending his own land, a lesson the Germans were to lean the hard way.
@12thpanzerHJ00:26 : That's a KV1 (Soviet Heavy tank) They actually say as much if you look at the subs at 3:26. Most of the others are older T34's with the smaller turret and cannon then the -85-version.
How T-34/76 can destoy T-34/85 by one shot in front!? ;)
And Soviets lock like stupids...
Good idea this film, but this goes a little to some propaganda. This happends in Russians and USA:s films. Germans movie Stalingrad is very good! You have to see it!
@wrostik Finnish has not enough tanks so Finns captured and used many T34 during war and this is realistic! During war Finns lost 8 Sturmgeschütz III Assault guns and distroid 87 soviet tanks! During Battle of Tali-Ihantala Finns lost 2 Assault guns and distroid over 40 soviet tanks!
@jak13333 that's how it went down, I think in the dvd of this movie theres an interview of the war veteran from this battle, and he told this story, of how his tank destroyed many many russian tanks, and he had to go back and get more shells, and the russians had no idea, they were being retards XD
@loserkiller007 Well I'd say soldiers always know the disposition of friendly forces at least approximately, so if armor shows up where no friendlies are supposed to be, it's hostile. I also know that Germans, for example, painted captured T-34s or Matildas with extra large German markings so as to avoid confusion.
@6587az you just write your shit language communist fuck! you country is more dirty than usa hahahaha! also your country is cheap and full of cheap whores
@6587az you all jealous ruskies.... we cant see how communism works because it dont work... thats why soviet union got huge losses in winter war.. nowdays russia... alot of stuff with cheap material... you have no right words to say thats why you put something stupid comment here... i think you have been filled with communist propaganda. OPEN YOUR EYES!
@6587az yeah finns were part of russian on that time but finns didnt want to be under communist power thats why finland indepeced... democracy seemed to work better than communism
@weaklypaskaa2 если СССР захотел завоевать Финляндию то завоевали но 1944 году Сталин договорился с Маннергеймом выступить на стороне СССР против Германии и выплатить 6000000 долларов репораций и отдать область Petsamo
@6587az yeah also soviet got so huge losses thats one of the reasons why stalin didnt want to fight anymore... soviet union failed many attacks thats why finns lost only 25000 man soviets lost 122000 and they had much more artillery, tanks and aircraft
@6587az yeah muslims and other terrosists countries destroy the earth also other religions and i hate black people also. they come to finland and finns state gives them home and cash.. there are huge numbers of immigrants who dont go to work.fact. when finns started to take more immigrants nowdays there are lots of more crimes and fights.. i think europe+russia is for whites. muslims and other ragheads are behind the terrorism why whites dont do such things? yeah because we are normal
@weaklypaskaa2 Russian has become a lot to take muslims blacks chinese mr.Putin should answer for it because in Russian have the russians less than 50%
@weaklypaskaa2 finland one first round "the winter war" in 1939. then finland entered WWII as a 'co-belligerant' to the fascists, and in 1944-45 the finns were pushed back to a border stalin wanted. the reds lost huge numbers in both wars, in the first from negligence, in the second when leningrad starved
@dchris1990 Actually the Soviets first wanted unconditional surrender of the Finns in 1944. Then when the Finns halted the Soviet strategic summer offensive they managed to get on the negotiation table. The Finnish army was never militarily beaten, though it would've eventually collapsed. But that has always been the Finnish strategy against its huge neighbour; "make the enemy bleed so much the cost outweighs the gain."
nobody in america is told the truth about the war. the zionist propoganda machine has turned the greatest manufacturing giant in the history of the world into a hollow unemployed hell!
@OCBsebastian Not really; both the Finnish and Germans never had enough armour to go around, so they would grab whatever they could. Even going as far to form captured Panzer Companies, resulting in whole formations of captured kit being put into action.
@Theakker3B Well both my Grand parents served and they say that it was rare to see germans using a captured T-34. It did happen, but not alot. Ive showed him this video, he laughed and said "we germans were to proud to use captured weapons", better to use the shitty Stug-Geschütze than to use the russian tanks. Is exactly what he said to me last weekend. Calling me a liar, or my grandfather who served in Grossdeutschland Division a liar too??
@TheVikingChieftain It's not forgotten, I'm just saying that American schools don't teach this part of the war because it has nothing to do with their country. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying that's how it is. Do Finland and Russia teach their students about the American Civil War? No, because it's not a part of their history.
The Fins used the swastika many years even before Hitler came to power, though it was no longer used after the war some sections of the Finnish army still have it to this day. The Finnish swastika has nothing to do with the Nazi party, Nazi ideology or fascism.
During ww2 the finns used a smart mix between nordic camo german way of war and much of the german arsenal but also used russian weapons the way they thought i would work!
@ristuksenvittu under word "nazis" i mean total alliance with axis side with using self troops for war on nazis side.
soviet and german were not allies. with molotov-rippentrop pact soviet do not attack german, and german do not attack soviet. soviet and german stayed on __different__ sides.
but of-course, Finnish non-military politics could be not Nazi. i did not research it.
June 10 - August 9, 1944 The final operation is the battle for Leningrad. complete destruction of the Finnish Army on the Karelian and Onega-Ladoga isthmuses.
"June 10 - August 9, 1944 The final operation is the battle for Leningrad."
>And the failure is achieved. Look, Finns SAVED st.Petersburg, named `Leningrad´ during the commuistic regime. Care to know why/how, or keep having yer fantasy?
" complete destruction of the Finnish Army on the Karelian and Onega-Ladoga isthmuses."
>Sorry, but no such thig occured. Those battles were largest in the North, and it halted Soviet strategic assault. One of a kind event, by the way.
@ArmaFennica Have you read the treaty? Finland declared the truce is not just they have signed an agreement in which the enemies of the USSR became enemies of Finland. Besides of, Finland acted as emissaries of the USSR to the West. only with the collapse of the Soviet Union's, contract was canceled. Finland retained its суверенитет. since USSR knew about the future to the confrontation with the West.
"Finland declared the truce is not just they have signed an agreement in which the enemies of the USSR became enemies of Finland."
>In actual facts, truce has to be from both sides. German Reich troopers were given some time to evacuate their Northern bases, hostilities did not begun until SU demanded more active war.
"Besides of, Finland acted as emissaries of the USSR to the West. only with the collapse of the Soviet Union's, contract was canceled."
>The YYA-treaty did not include any emissaries -actions. What you mean, is the neutral position enabled talks through us. No treaties for that, though, only position.
"Finland retained its суверенитет. since USSR knew about the future to the confrontation with the West"
"the peace treaties, but rather more like the "Finns have bribed the USSR". to Finns were not part of the USSR. =)"
>So, the fact that Finland was the only nation to actually PAY the INVADER the demanded reparations -alone- in addition to Karelians losing their lands, makes you think Finns bribed Soviet giant...
-Well, words like honor and integrity are lost with you.
@ArmaFennica Stalin used the Finns to get rid of their army before the war with Hitler, Generals sent to the Kolyma and then tossed them in the fight to the Finnish fortifications. "got rid of the competition". Often, soldiers fought with the Finns only with bayonets, and the Supreme Soviet leadership had lied to everyone. Stalin knew that the Finns will disclose it if he up too much pressure on them.
"Stalin used the Finns to get rid of their army before the war with Hitler, Generals sent to the Kolyma and then tossed them in the fight to the Finnish fortifications"
>And by `fortifications´ you mean the puny "Mannerheim-line"?
-In actual fact, the war against Finland was bold, but failed invasion using combined arms tactics. With the terrain being forgein and blocking large rapid movements added to the underestimated resistance, initial Soviet thrusts failed.
Stalin knew that the Finns will disclose it if he up too much pressure on them."
>Well, given that the plans acceepted by Stalin claimed the war lasting less than two weeks, you are in error. The plan was to have the whole of Finland in a rapid invasion.
-The points where vast Soviet armies invaded.
-The propaganda mill, claiming wild lies.
-The puppet regime created from the few Finn-Communists who escaped death in the Stalins purges.
@ArmaFennica The plan was not the conquest of Finland, Stalin's plan was a massive destruction of the army that might rise against him. If their plan was to seize Finland they would not attacked in forehead. the main fact that Stalin instead of ammunition, sent alcohol. Ie supply was not disrupted. In addition, tested new weapons tank "KV1 and KV-2" At that time nothing could damage their armor.
@redneck10ivan At least you're not saying Finland started the war, like other ruskies on internet. But still, you are wrong. Soviet goal was to cut Finland in two parts from the middle and then crush all resistance. After that, Stalin would've done "estonians" to Finland - transform the country to Soviet-Finland and move thousands of finns to Siberia and replace them with russians.
>Give one good reason why the fate of Finland was supposed to be different than the Baltics.
-The plan was to conquer, have you seen the initial goals of the Soviet armies?
"Stalin's plan was a massive destruction of the army that might rise against him."
>No, the plan was massvie and swift combined arms action which would quickly overwhelm defenders and cut the nation in half. The railways from Viipuri were essentials.
"Ie supply was not disrupted. In addition, tested new weapons tank "KV1 and KV-2" At that time nothing could damage their armor."
>It was not weapons test, more like an attempt to use two different tactics. It failed terribly at first, as tankers, aviators and infantry could not coordinate their actions.
-There were few KV-1 tanks, but still they accomplished nothing. T-28 was the main heavy in that time, in that place.
@ArmaFennica T28 was a medium tank. KV1 achieved good results, in addition to the T26 tank used radio control. Stalin used Finland as a testing ground for weapons, and Finns have been involuntarily butcher those armies, which were displeasing to Stalin's plans. The same thing Hitler did, he destroyed those who brought him to power. (Personally, I think that God was on the side of the Finns)))
>Nope, it was neither used nor built as such. One of the medium tanks features is speed, and the T-26 failed in that. Soviet armored vehicles had some very fast tanks, and these lumbering and well armored tanks were used in `breakthrough´ role.
-Do remember that designations took a huge mixup as the wars begun to heat up.
Finns had real troubles with the heavy armored skin of these vehicles, so in Winter War, the T-28 filled `heavy´ role.
"and Finns have been involuntarily butcher those armies, which were displeasing to Stalin's plans."
>Amm... Soviets sent their veteran divisions here. The issue was the fact that excellent Ukranians had no experience in our terrain, our climate and our way of fighting.
-The blue division as an example, had no chance against our methods in our conditions.
-The later reinforcements (Siberians) were called `beasts´ as the other Soviets were called `bunnies´.
@ArmaFennica They have german crosses on their tanks. They also happen to have the same drum and barrel design and appearance as the russian ppsh. so not everything wrong and who are you to be critical. i dont mind be correct but rudeness isnt friggin necessary
>Sorry for the harshness, that Ukranian got mi fangs out.
So, those "German crosses" are not.
-The Finnish army used swastikas long before there even was a Reich.
PPSh-41 and the looks.
-Are indeed the same, that is because the Soviets copied the M31 drum, but instead of using 1mm thick steel, used only 1/2 mm steel, so those were weaker and not quite as reliable (there are claims that Soviets copied the whole SMG, but that is not true, PPSH-41 and Suomi M31 only look alike).
Funny video. Russians swarming and dying, dying and swarming. Poor blind
gyes can`t even hit the target that stand in 5 meters before them. And finnish terminators killing hundreds of foes each, and continue fight even after they had few holes in they head. "No brains - no worries".
And yeah, guns that work on fireworks were funny too.
>So your grandfathers were sent here to die for pointless efforts to conquer and dominate, don't you think you should try to rid that massive chip on yer shoulder?
-These films try to achieve maximum realism, and this move is based on accounts of the soldiers on those fields. We have detailed information on every unit, fallen soldier and lost equipment -unlike the Soviet Union- so maybe you ought to read more, bash less, aye?
"Next. This films a typical crap-about-war. Where "good" guys kill thousands of "bad" guys, and survive even after they heads were tear off."
>Nope, this is about the largest battle in the history of Nordics. Most events in this film are actual accounts. Down to the Soviet bringing the wounded Finn to the road.
But in some cases our dear producers took real event and add some funny details. And instead of all nice and glorious battle we have cheap circus with "russishe untermenshes". And that is problem.
"The question IS: if 'dat russians were such blind and stupid as the were shown, how they won the war?"
>Only one Soviet strategic offensive failed, it was the one against the Finns. The `victory´ -part was when both sides agreed to not shoot eachothers anymore.
-Finnish victory was the preservation of our republic, most of our lands and all of our kins.
Well these are tanks from the Finnish tank museum, and they are real renovated WW2 era tanks. Besides they are tanks, and not art, so they are not meant to look beautifull.
@Pikkabuu you are wrong man. tanks are more or lss beautifull and this kv1 there is far away fromt the real one.....this is a strange hybride but no kv1
@sdkfz162kingtiger That "KV-1" is a reconstruction for filming purposes. It is a t-54/55 chassis that has KV-1 turret mounted on it. The turret is made of fiberglass. I´ve been inside it.
@qelleri thx i knewed it that this is never a KV1. why is it so hard to get the real ones run again? you saw the ugly vehicle "Tiger/T34 hybrid" in saving private rian?
@sdkfz162kingtiger Yeah. I´ve seen that. The reason why they don´t use the real vehicles is that it´s just too expensive. Imagine a film company buying a real tiger from some museum, making it run, transport it to the filming place, drive it there and then taking it back. There aren´t many real vehicles left and they may be on a whole another continent.
wait a sec the Finish does have a russian helmet and stahlhelmet too??
auvar100 2 days ago
@auvar100 They used what they had at hand, were it headgear, weapons or vehicles. We didn't have much in the way of large scale manufacturing capacity, so anything that worked was used. Hell, during Winter War we used cannons that dated to the late 1800's!
Arkticus 2 days ago
@auvar100 Reason why we used German helmets were: Germans helped us to win the civil war 1918. We used Soviet Helmets because we didn´t have enough helmets for entire army of 300 000 men by 30.11 1939 and still we didn´t have enough helmets for 500 000 men by 25.6 1941.
TrueFinn1 1 day ago
6:00 for action
Hyyra 4 days ago
There were recorded instrances where the Finns attacked Russian tanks with logs trying to dislodge the tracks. That my friends takes balls of steel. Never underestimate the courage of a man defending his own land, a lesson the Germans were to lean the hard way.
swatdiver1 5 days ago
THOSE ARENT T34S THO
12thpanzerHJ 5 days ago
@12thpanzerHJ are they t34 sotkas? they look too beefy to me. Thanks for any help here!
12thpanzerHJ 5 days ago
@12thpanzerHJ 00:26 : That's a KV1 (Soviet Heavy tank) They actually say as much if you look at the subs at 3:26. Most of the others are older T34's with the smaller turret and cannon then the -85-version.
Hope that helped :)
Arkticus 4 days ago
fail
Deathenss 6 days ago
Hah hah!
How T-34/76 can destoy T-34/85 by one shot in front!? ;)
And Soviets lock like stupids...
Good idea this film, but this goes a little to some propaganda. This happends in Russians and USA:s films. Germans movie Stalingrad is very good! You have to see it!
wrostik 1 week ago
@wrostik German movie Stalingrad was okay, but a little boring.
TheCookiemonster1822 6 days ago
@wrostik u hate russia?
sergey98352 5 days ago
@wrostik Finnish has not enough tanks so Finns captured and used many T34 during war and this is realistic! During war Finns lost 8 Sturmgeschütz III Assault guns and distroid 87 soviet tanks! During Battle of Tali-Ihantala Finns lost 2 Assault guns and distroid over 40 soviet tanks!
Menties1 5 days ago
finnland kann einpacken xDDD
denisk32 1 week ago
хуйня какая то придуманная...полная чушь
GORISVET1 1 week ago
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Geekman333 1 week ago
What is the name of this movie? It looks pretty good.
Beef506 1 week ago
I thought those were B1 tanks. French made.
liltrenchrat 1 week ago
schwachsinn
holdradio 2 weeks ago
That finlands have T34 tanks ;d
XerxesPL 2 weeks ago 8
@XerxesPL The Finns would use captured Russian tanks. Just paint our symbols on them and they were good to go.
FredrikLundstrom 1 week ago 10
@FredrikLundstrom Finns made modifications to Russian tanks as did the Germans.
Geekman333 1 week ago
A tad weird none the russians know how to hit them. But else its pretty neat. :p
jak13333 2 weeks ago
@jak13333 that's how it went down, I think in the dvd of this movie theres an interview of the war veteran from this battle, and he told this story, of how his tank destroyed many many russian tanks, and he had to go back and get more shells, and the russians had no idea, they were being retards XD
jukkis6699 1 week ago
What movie is this?
ziyou1969 2 weeks ago
@ziyou1969 tali-ihantala
weaklypaskaa2 2 weeks ago
what movie is this?
volksjager8 2 weeks ago
@volksjager8 Tali-Ihantala 1944
makeRTG 1 week ago
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Pony trekking or camping,
Or just watching TV.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
It's the country for me.
johnsy88 3 weeks ago
@johnsy88 Sweden plus Finland= Forever
Melchersson 3 weeks ago
@johnsy88 yea yea who cares
sergey98352 5 days ago
@sergey98352 you care enough to reply. thanks champ
johnsy88 5 days ago
@johnsy88 yeah i reply to you that there is no hope thats why
sergey98352 5 days ago
i'm confussed.........
so finnish soldiers were using t-34s aginst russian t-34s?
loserkiller007 3 weeks ago
@loserkiller007 Yes. What's so strange about it? All sides used captured enemy weapons. Finns especiall, since they had very few tanks of their own.
FlitkoSLO 3 weeks ago
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loserkiller007 3 weeks ago
@FlitkoSLO
but what if the tank was far away and the soldiers can't see the symbols on it, how can they identify the tank as a hostile or a friendly?
loserkiller007 3 weeks ago
@loserkiller007 Well I'd say soldiers always know the disposition of friendly forces at least approximately, so if armor shows up where no friendlies are supposed to be, it's hostile. I also know that Germans, for example, painted captured T-34s or Matildas with extra large German markings so as to avoid confusion.
FlitkoSLO 3 weeks ago
@loserkiller007 yeah finns captured soviet tanks
weaklypaskaa2 3 weeks ago
wow that is some vintage armour. A running KV-1
napalacrosse 3 weeks ago
@napalacrosse Its not real KV
valttu94 2 weeks ago
Фины с Америкой пидорки я читал историю что вы друг у друга хуй отсасывали
xuivrot1 3 weeks ago
I love how all flags ArmaFennicas comments as spam :DDDD You can't stand the truth!?
sikaman9 1 month ago
fuck finnish pigs
6587az 1 month ago
@6587az no ruskie you failed your country is fucked up you communist shit!
weaklypaskaa2 1 month ago
@weaklypaskaa2 i knew thee that thou Finnish pig that you eaten today
6587az 1 month ago
@6587az you and your country is more dirty than shit.. btw how you like about communism? sucks right?
weaklypaskaa2 1 month ago
@weaklypaskaa2 ты грязный финский ублюдок заткни с грязный рот собака лает ветер носит
6587az 1 month ago
@6587az you just write your shit language communist fuck! you country is more dirty than usa hahahaha! also your country is cheap and full of cheap whores
weaklypaskaa2 3 weeks ago
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6587az 3 weeks ago
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6587az 3 weeks ago
@weaklypaskaa2 финские ублюдки любят иметь друг друга в задницу недаром Финляндия и Швеция являются странами голубых fuck each other in the ass
6587az 3 weeks ago
@6587az you all jealous ruskies.... we cant see how communism works because it dont work... thats why soviet union got huge losses in winter war.. nowdays russia... alot of stuff with cheap material... you have no right words to say thats why you put something stupid comment here... i think you have been filled with communist propaganda. OPEN YOUR EYES!
weaklypaskaa2 3 weeks ago
@weaklypaskaa2 не все русские коммунисты а Сталин был Грузином а не русским, но между прочим Финляндия входила состав России до 1917 года
6587az 3 weeks ago
@6587az yeah finns were part of russian on that time but finns didnt want to be under communist power thats why finland indepeced... democracy seemed to work better than communism
weaklypaskaa2 3 weeks ago
@weaklypaskaa2 если СССР захотел завоевать Финляндию то завоевали но 1944 году Сталин договорился с Маннергеймом выступить на стороне СССР против Германии и выплатить 6000000 долларов репораций и отдать область Petsamo
6587az 3 weeks ago
@6587az yeah also soviet got so huge losses thats one of the reasons why stalin didnt want to fight anymore... soviet union failed many attacks thats why finns lost only 25000 man soviets lost 122000 and they had much more artillery, tanks and aircraft
weaklypaskaa2 3 weeks ago
@weaklypaskaa2 я лучше спросить вас как погода сейчас на улице у нас на данный момент -8 с
6587az 3 weeks ago
@6587az can you write that comment in english please..?
weaklypaskaa2 3 weeks ago
@weaklypaskaa2 i wanted to ask what the weather now you have right now we have a cold
6587az 3 weeks ago
@6587az we have now - 20 c
weaklypaskaa2 3 weeks ago
@weaklypaskaa2 I also don"t lake blacks and muslims i have them chechnya kilied 2 years
6587az 3 weeks ago
@6587az yeah muslims and other terrosists countries destroy the earth also other religions and i hate black people also. they come to finland and finns state gives them home and cash.. there are huge numbers of immigrants who dont go to work.fact. when finns started to take more immigrants nowdays there are lots of more crimes and fights.. i think europe+russia is for whites. muslims and other ragheads are behind the terrorism why whites dont do such things? yeah because we are normal
weaklypaskaa2 3 weeks ago
@weaklypaskaa2 Russian has become a lot to take muslims blacks chinese mr.Putin should answer for it because in Russian have the russians less than 50%
6587az 3 weeks ago
@6587az whow!!! fucking muslims are taking over the wolrd some1 should do something!
weaklypaskaa2 3 weeks ago
@weaklypaskaa2 buy a pistol-machine gun suomi 31and shoot them (just kidding)
6587az 2 weeks ago
@6587az hahahaha! yeah! you buy ppsh-41 and ill buy suomi 31!!! (that was a joke) :D
weaklypaskaa2 2 weeks ago
@6587az
In eastern Finland we have from -25 up to -35 degrees...
9JKKY5 3 weeks ago
@9JKKY5 tänää ennätys -29.4c
weaklypaskaa2 3 weeks ago
@9JKKY5 we have warm day +10
6587az 2 weeks ago
@6587az btw 2 days ago we had -29.4 in town named by kotka
weaklypaskaa2 2 weeks ago
@weaklypaskaa2 today is the morning got up the car all the show does not operate the engine cold -30 eggs to cold
6587az 2 weeks ago
@6587az -30 black sea froze it was 1972 just fun
6587az 2 weeks ago
@weaklypaskaa2 finland one first round "the winter war" in 1939. then finland entered WWII as a 'co-belligerant' to the fascists, and in 1944-45 the finns were pushed back to a border stalin wanted. the reds lost huge numbers in both wars, in the first from negligence, in the second when leningrad starved
dchris1990 1 day ago
@dchris1990 Actually the Soviets first wanted unconditional surrender of the Finns in 1944. Then when the Finns halted the Soviet strategic summer offensive they managed to get on the negotiation table. The Finnish army was never militarily beaten, though it would've eventually collapsed. But that has always been the Finnish strategy against its huge neighbour; "make the enemy bleed so much the cost outweighs the gain."
Verilepakko 10 hours ago
@6587az hey kiss my danish ass and shut up
TheVikingChieftain 1 month ago
nobody in america is told the truth about the war. the zionist propoganda machine has turned the greatest manufacturing giant in the history of the world into a hollow unemployed hell!
eyeh8zion 1 month ago
yes and offcourse the germans would ride into battle using russian tanks. lol this movie is so unaccurate
OCBsebastian 1 month ago
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@OCBsebastian
"yes and offcourse the germans would ride into battle using russian tanks. lol this movie is so unaccurate"
Those are not German, but Finnish forces. Finns had Soviet equipment and that movie is one of the most realistic films on that era.
-The only failed Soviet strategic offensive, and the largest battle in the history of Nordic nations.
Anything else?
ArmaFennica 1 month ago
@OCBsebastian Not really; both the Finnish and Germans never had enough armour to go around, so they would grab whatever they could. Even going as far to form captured Panzer Companies, resulting in whole formations of captured kit being put into action.
TammoKorsai 1 month ago
@OCBsebastian Actually, Germans did use alot of captured Russian T-34s.
Theakker3B 1 month ago
@Theakker3B Well both my Grand parents served and they say that it was rare to see germans using a captured T-34. It did happen, but not alot. Ive showed him this video, he laughed and said "we germans were to proud to use captured weapons", better to use the shitty Stug-Geschütze than to use the russian tanks. Is exactly what he said to me last weekend. Calling me a liar, or my grandfather who served in Grossdeutschland Division a liar too??
OCBsebastian 1 month ago
@OCBsebastian I'm not calling anyone a liar, I'm just saying that they used them. Jesus.
Theakker3B 1 month ago
movie?
Danos313 2 months ago
this is the forgotten content in the american history books.
eyeh8zion 2 months ago 6
@eyeh8zion Actually its from a movie called Tali-ihantala
KebuaKiitos 2 months ago
@eyeh8zion Idiot, why would they teach Russian and Finnish history in American history books?
Theakker3B 1 month ago
@Theakker3B this is a forgotten part indeed. why forgotten?
TheVikingChieftain 1 month ago
@TheVikingChieftain It's not forgotten, I'm just saying that American schools don't teach this part of the war because it has nothing to do with their country. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying that's how it is. Do Finland and Russia teach their students about the American Civil War? No, because it's not a part of their history.
Theakker3B 1 month ago
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1alecci 4 weeks ago
@Theakker3B i dont know about russia but at least in finland they do teach about the american civil war.
1alecci 4 weeks ago
@Theakker3B
Actually we got pretty detailed lessons about American civil war in our schools.
Killjoy45 3 weeks ago
this is the forgotten content in the american history books.
eyeh8zion 2 months ago
are those matildas?
M1Astrays 2 months ago
@M1Astrays nope
Nanobagongo1 2 months ago
why do the finnish tanks have swastikas on them??
TheJBurner 2 months ago
@TheJBurner
The Fins used the swastika many years even before Hitler came to power, though it was no longer used after the war some sections of the Finnish army still have it to this day. The Finnish swastika has nothing to do with the Nazi party, Nazi ideology or fascism.
DutchKat 2 months ago
To all Russians: Watch documentaries on this. Even Russian documentaries tell you that USSR was not prepared for this war.
muukhai 2 months ago
@muukhai I know, Stalin never actually expected the NSDAP members to change their mind and invade Russia.
SouthparkContent 2 months ago
During ww2 the finns used a smart mix between nordic camo german way of war and much of the german arsenal but also used russian weapons the way they thought i would work!
sn1p3rpw4ge 2 months ago
Tali Ihantala 1944. As seen in this movie there was a couple of swedes there that helped to keep the red army out of Finland!
coldnorthproduction 2 months ago
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Finish propaganda. As usual.
VTBbank 2 months ago
holy shit they just stood their ground
Hakuru15 2 months ago
Stupid, stupid, stupid ... kill all yourself, on the both sides!!
MrKatajisto 2 months ago
what is this world of tanks you speak of? maybe i should check it out
ispycyanide 2 months ago
@ispycyanide just find some video fro youtube, i play world of tanks too, its very addictive game :P
Heikki90 2 months ago
Nice movie for nazi babies =)
RobotN001 2 months ago
@RobotN001 -.- Finnish were not Nazis, they just used same kinda helmets and mantles.
dude97x 2 months ago
@dude97x Do u remember so call "Continuation War"? And see v=PLoEJIpMSOY
RobotN001 2 months ago
@RobotN001
nazis being our allies doesnt make us nazis.
americans are not communists even if you were allies.
russia and nazis were allies at one point too(molotov-rippentrop pact)
does that make you communazis?
ristuksenvittu 2 months ago
@ristuksenvittu No, you're writing is as ridiculous nonsense.=))))
redneck10ivan 2 months ago
@ristuksenvittu under word "nazis" i mean total alliance with axis side with using self troops for war on nazis side.
soviet and german were not allies. with molotov-rippentrop pact soviet do not attack german, and german do not attack soviet. soviet and german stayed on __different__ sides.
but of-course, Finnish non-military politics could be not Nazi. i did not research it.
RobotN001 2 months ago
@RobotN001 Yea, we got some help from Hitler and Nazis, but so? Americans were at the same side as Communists, and they were no Communists.
dude97x 2 months ago
Fina forgotten.
June 10 - August 9, 1944 The final operation is the battle for Leningrad. complete destruction of the Finnish Army on the Karelian and Onega-Ladoga isthmuses.
redneck10ivan 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"June 10 - August 9, 1944 The final operation is the battle for Leningrad."
>And the failure is achieved. Look, Finns SAVED st.Petersburg, named `Leningrad´ during the commuistic regime. Care to know why/how, or keep having yer fantasy?
" complete destruction of the Finnish Army on the Karelian and Onega-Ladoga isthmuses."
>Sorry, but no such thig occured. Those battles were largest in the North, and it halted Soviet strategic assault. One of a kind event, by the way.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica Of course Fina scared and took the Soviet Union. Finns are generally timid mice)))
redneck10ivan 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"Of course Fina scared and took the Soviet Union. Finns are generally timid mice)))"
>Having years of gringin war against vastly superior force and yet left standing. I fail to see any shame.
-I truly hope you Ukranians could have done the same against the Rus.
"Finland emerged from the war with the Soviet Union with the conclusion of the armistice agreement, signed September 19, 1944 in Moscow."
>With our lands, kins and independence. Unlike any other nation which faced SU.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica Have you read the treaty? Finland declared the truce is not just they have signed an agreement in which the enemies of the USSR became enemies of Finland. Besides of, Finland acted as emissaries of the USSR to the West. only with the collapse of the Soviet Union's, contract was canceled. Finland retained its суверенитет. since USSR knew about the future to the confrontation with the West.
redneck10ivan 2 months ago
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@redneck10ivan
"Have you read the treaty?"
>Actually yea, seen the copies.
"Finland declared the truce is not just they have signed an agreement in which the enemies of the USSR became enemies of Finland."
>In actual facts, truce has to be from both sides. German Reich troopers were given some time to evacuate their Northern bases, hostilities did not begun until SU demanded more active war.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"Besides of, Finland acted as emissaries of the USSR to the West. only with the collapse of the Soviet Union's, contract was canceled."
>The YYA-treaty did not include any emissaries -actions. What you mean, is the neutral position enabled talks through us. No treaties for that, though, only position.
"Finland retained its суверенитет. since USSR knew about the future to the confrontation with the West"
>And the fact that war would have never stopped.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica the peace treaties, but rather more like the "Finns have bribed the USSR". to Finns were not part of the USSR. =)
redneck10ivan 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"the peace treaties, but rather more like the "Finns have bribed the USSR". to Finns were not part of the USSR. =)"
>So, the fact that Finland was the only nation to actually PAY the INVADER the demanded reparations -alone- in addition to Karelians losing their lands, makes you think Finns bribed Soviet giant...
-Well, words like honor and integrity are lost with you.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica Stalin used the Finns to get rid of their army before the war with Hitler, Generals sent to the Kolyma and then tossed them in the fight to the Finnish fortifications. "got rid of the competition". Often, soldiers fought with the Finns only with bayonets, and the Supreme Soviet leadership had lied to everyone. Stalin knew that the Finns will disclose it if he up too much pressure on them.
redneck10ivan 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"Stalin used the Finns to get rid of their army before the war with Hitler, Generals sent to the Kolyma and then tossed them in the fight to the Finnish fortifications"
>And by `fortifications´ you mean the puny "Mannerheim-line"?
-In actual fact, the war against Finland was bold, but failed invasion using combined arms tactics. With the terrain being forgein and blocking large rapid movements added to the underestimated resistance, initial Soviet thrusts failed.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"got rid of the competition".
>That had already taken place. Invasion of Finland failed partially due to the lack of skill from the Soviet leadership.
"Often, soldiers fought with the Finns only with bayonets,"
>The aniquated tactics, yes. But the tanks alongside the charging men, you forgot those.
"and the Supreme Soviet leadership had lied to everyone."
>I have read the Soviet era newpaper articles which were spouting anti-Finnish propaganda way before the war.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago 17
@ArmaFennica yeah example that the finnish torture their prisoners to their deaths
deltaforceee 2 months ago
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@deltaforceee
"yeah example that the finnish torture their prisoners to their deaths"
>Amm... This is neither true nor relevant to the discussion.
-But sake of the trouble of commenting, do you happen to have any valid evidence on that?
Even the Soviets did not torture the captured Finns, and Soviets taken were not ill-kept.
-In fact, the poor lads were often shipped to the Finnish farms to help and they were treated very well.
So, why the bash?
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
Stalin knew that the Finns will disclose it if he up too much pressure on them."
>Well, given that the plans acceepted by Stalin claimed the war lasting less than two weeks, you are in error. The plan was to have the whole of Finland in a rapid invasion.
-The points where vast Soviet armies invaded.
-The propaganda mill, claiming wild lies.
-The puppet regime created from the few Finn-Communists who escaped death in the Stalins purges.
All point towards annexation
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica The plan was not the conquest of Finland, Stalin's plan was a massive destruction of the army that might rise against him. If their plan was to seize Finland they would not attacked in forehead. the main fact that Stalin instead of ammunition, sent alcohol. Ie supply was not disrupted. In addition, tested new weapons tank "KV1 and KV-2" At that time nothing could damage their armor.
redneck10ivan 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan At least you're not saying Finland started the war, like other ruskies on internet. But still, you are wrong. Soviet goal was to cut Finland in two parts from the middle and then crush all resistance. After that, Stalin would've done "estonians" to Finland - transform the country to Soviet-Finland and move thousands of finns to Siberia and replace them with russians.
Zuomigundi 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"The plan was not the conquest of Finland"
>Give one good reason why the fate of Finland was supposed to be different than the Baltics.
-The plan was to conquer, have you seen the initial goals of the Soviet armies?
"Stalin's plan was a massive destruction of the army that might rise against him."
>No, the plan was massvie and swift combined arms action which would quickly overwhelm defenders and cut the nation in half. The railways from Viipuri were essentials.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"If their plan was to seize Finland they would not attacked in forehead."
>You DO know that there was MASSIVE armies in the Northern side of the Karelian isthmus, ready to strike the Finnish flank and cutting the nation?
"the main fact that Stalin instead of ammunition, sent alcohol."
>That's the second time you claim this, but forget that halfway through the war, both fresh manpower, leadership and equipment was brought in.
-Do point out to the alcohol evidence.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"Ie supply was not disrupted. In addition, tested new weapons tank "KV1 and KV-2" At that time nothing could damage their armor."
>It was not weapons test, more like an attempt to use two different tactics. It failed terribly at first, as tankers, aviators and infantry could not coordinate their actions.
-There were few KV-1 tanks, but still they accomplished nothing. T-28 was the main heavy in that time, in that place.
What about the puppet regime?
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica T28 was a medium tank. KV1 achieved good results, in addition to the T26 tank used radio control. Stalin used Finland as a testing ground for weapons, and Finns have been involuntarily butcher those armies, which were displeasing to Stalin's plans. The same thing Hitler did, he destroyed those who brought him to power. (Personally, I think that God was on the side of the Finns)))
redneck10ivan 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"T28 was a medium tank."
>Nope, it was neither used nor built as such. One of the medium tanks features is speed, and the T-26 failed in that. Soviet armored vehicles had some very fast tanks, and these lumbering and well armored tanks were used in `breakthrough´ role.
-Do remember that designations took a huge mixup as the wars begun to heat up.
Finns had real troubles with the heavy armored skin of these vehicles, so in Winter War, the T-28 filled `heavy´ role.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"KV1 achieved good results, in addition to the T26 tank used radio control"
>Good results?
-The few breakthrough-tanks which were used, failed due to the failure of Soviet own actions.
"Stalin used Finland as a testing ground for weapons"
>Using new weapons does not null the fact that Soviets tried to take all of Finland.
-Care to point out how they would?
After the initial failures, Soviets tried teh massive firepower, not finesse.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"and Finns have been involuntarily butcher those armies, which were displeasing to Stalin's plans."
>Amm... Soviets sent their veteran divisions here. The issue was the fact that excellent Ukranians had no experience in our terrain, our climate and our way of fighting.
-The blue division as an example, had no chance against our methods in our conditions.
-The later reinforcements (Siberians) were called `beasts´ as the other Soviets were called `bunnies´.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@redneck10ivan
"The same thing Hitler did, he destroyed those who brought him to power."
>That idea fails when seeing how the Baltics were treated and how Soviet propaganda-mill was busy long before the actual invasion.
-And the fact that Stalins purges had already taken place.
"(Personally, I think that God was on the side of the Finns)))"
>I don't put much stock in deities, but my grandfathers who fought and lived through three wars might disagree.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica My great-grandfather fought in the Finnish, so I know a lot of things about what I write.
redneck10ivan 2 months ago
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@redneck10ivan
"My great-grandfather fought in the Finnish, so I know a lot of things about what I write."
>Was he part of the veterans or consripts? That should tell quite a bit.
-Which area? That also could explain your assertion on "weapons testing".
Fact is, Ukranians were used by the Rus.
-Why defend the actions of the Soviet Union? They were real monsters.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica Finland emerged from the war with the Soviet Union with the conclusion of the armistice agreement, signed September 19, 1944 in Moscow.
redneck10ivan 2 months ago
haha germans using the russian submachinegun ppsh
booksrule0240 2 months ago
@booksrule0240
>Amm, yank?
-Those would be Republic of Finland troopers in Finnish Field Gray, using Finnish M31 SMG...
You managed to get every single thing wrong in that post, an achievement on its own.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica They have german crosses on their tanks. They also happen to have the same drum and barrel design and appearance as the russian ppsh. so not everything wrong and who are you to be critical. i dont mind be correct but rudeness isnt friggin necessary
booksrule0240 2 months ago
@booksrule0240
>Sorry for the harshness, that Ukranian got mi fangs out.
So, those "German crosses" are not.
-The Finnish army used swastikas long before there even was a Reich.
PPSh-41 and the looks.
-Are indeed the same, that is because the Soviets copied the M31 drum, but instead of using 1mm thick steel, used only 1/2 mm steel, so those were weaker and not quite as reliable (there are claims that Soviets copied the whole SMG, but that is not true, PPSH-41 and Suomi M31 only look alike).
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica Ah ok. not suprised that the soviets went the cheap route. Thanks for the explaination. No worries. good luck with the Ukranian lol.
booksrule0240 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica apologizies mend to say corrected, not correct
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sygaos 1 week ago
Funny video. Russians swarming and dying, dying and swarming. Poor blind
gyes can`t even hit the target that stand in 5 meters before them. And finnish terminators killing hundreds of foes each, and continue fight even after they had few holes in they head. "No brains - no worries".
And yeah, guns that work on fireworks were funny too.
Strnngr 2 months ago
@Strnngr
>So your grandfathers were sent here to die for pointless efforts to conquer and dominate, don't you think you should try to rid that massive chip on yer shoulder?
-These films try to achieve maximum realism, and this move is based on accounts of the soldiers on those fields. We have detailed information on every unit, fallen soldier and lost equipment -unlike the Soviet Union- so maybe you ought to read more, bash less, aye?
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica
First. I know why they were sent here or there.
Next. This films a typical crap-about-war. Where "good" guys kill thousands of "bad" guys, and survive even after they heads were tear off.
The question IS: if 'dat russians were such blind and stupid as the were shown, how they won the war?
Ah, yea, about "every unit". Typical bullshit.
Strnngr 2 months ago
@Strnngr 10:1 ratio in everything.
infantry
tanks
artillery
planes
Lets rethink the question why they won the war.
MCH4RSK1HCPAALLIKKO 2 months ago
@MCH4RSK1HCPAALLIKKO
Just as I said. If they were so blind and stupid, as they were shown, how they won war? Brave finnish terminators should wipe all of them.
Strnngr 2 months ago
@Strnngr
"First. I know why they were sent here or there."
>This is pure gibberish, not worth anyones time.
"Next. This films a typical crap-about-war. Where "good" guys kill thousands of "bad" guys, and survive even after they heads were tear off."
>Nope, this is about the largest battle in the history of Nordics. Most events in this film are actual accounts. Down to the Soviet bringing the wounded Finn to the road.
-See the details of this battle yerself.
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
@ArmaFennica
>Most of events are actual accounts.
But in some cases our dear producers took real event and add some funny details. And instead of all nice and glorious battle we have cheap circus with "russishe untermenshes". And that is problem.
Strnngr 2 months ago
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@Strnngr
"But in some cases our dear producers took real event and add some funny details."
>Nope, not really. But as you have that assertion, point out the place where in the film?
-Go on, should be easy.
"And instead of all nice and glorious battle we have cheap circus with "russishe untermenshes". And that is problem."
>So you think battle is nice and glorious???
-That explains a lot.
I really do not see Soviets displayed as inferior in any way or form.
-Care to elaborate?
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
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@Strnngr
"The question IS: if 'dat russians were such blind and stupid as the were shown, how they won the war?"
>Only one Soviet strategic offensive failed, it was the one against the Finns. The `victory´ -part was when both sides agreed to not shoot eachothers anymore.
-Finnish victory was the preservation of our republic, most of our lands and all of our kins.
"Ah, yea, about "every unit". Typical bullshit."
>Again, gibberish What are you on about?
ArmaFennica 2 months ago
It's totally ludicrous.
yaebalvashrottriraza 2 months ago
Finland won
MarineCorps413 2 months ago
these tanks looking so ugly and selfmade from illegal workers...like the "tigert34 hybride" of saving brivate ryan
sdkfz162kingtiger 2 months ago
@sdkfz162kingtiger Well to be fair, these could be captured Russian tanks. The actors are crap in this movie, though.
Inkvisitio 2 months ago
@sdkfz162kingtiger
Well these are tanks from the Finnish tank museum, and they are real renovated WW2 era tanks. Besides they are tanks, and not art, so they are not meant to look beautifull.
Pikkabuu 2 months ago
@Pikkabuu you are wrong man. tanks are more or lss beautifull and this kv1 there is far away fromt the real one.....this is a strange hybride but no kv1
sdkfz162kingtiger 2 months ago
@sdkfz162kingtiger That "KV-1" is a reconstruction for filming purposes. It is a t-54/55 chassis that has KV-1 turret mounted on it. The turret is made of fiberglass. I´ve been inside it.
qelleri 2 months ago
@qelleri thx i knewed it that this is never a KV1. why is it so hard to get the real ones run again? you saw the ugly vehicle "Tiger/T34 hybrid" in saving private rian?
sdkfz162kingtiger 2 months ago
@sdkfz162kingtiger Yeah. I´ve seen that. The reason why they don´t use the real vehicles is that it´s just too expensive. Imagine a film company buying a real tiger from some museum, making it run, transport it to the filming place, drive it there and then taking it back. There aren´t many real vehicles left and they may be on a whole another continent.
qelleri 2 months ago
@sdkfz162kingtiger
I didn't say that tanks can't be beautifull. I said that tanks aren't made with elegance in mind.
Pikkabuu 2 months ago