There is very little information on Fanny. as far a polygamy most information is 2nd or 3rd hand. For people to hate mormonism for polygamy is like hating Moses for the law of Moses. Polygamy was practiced all throught he old Testament and continued with the gentiles well past the meetings of Niacea.
Probably the wife about whom we know the least is Fanny Alger, Joseph's first plural wife, whom he came to know in early 1833 when she stayed at the Smith home as a house-assistant of sorts to Emma (such work was common for young women at the time). There are no first-hand accounts of their relationship (from Joseph or Fanny), nor are there second-hand accounts (from Emma or Fanny's family). All that we do have is THIRD HAND accounts, most of them recorded many years after the events.
"You don't know me; you never knew my heart. No man knows my history. I cannot tell it: I shall never undertake it. I don't blame any one for not believing my history. If I had not experienced what I have, I would not have believed it myself. I never did harm any man since I was born in the world. My voice is always for peace." Joseph Smith Jr
"I am a lover of the cause of Christ and of virtue, chastity, and an upright, steady course of conduct and a holy walk. I despise a hypocrite or a covenant breaker. I judge them not; God shall judge them according to their works. I am a lover even of mine enemies, for an enemy seeketh to destroy openly. I can pray for those who despitefully use and persecute me, but for all I cannot hope." Joseph Smith Jr.
"[God] never will institute an ordinance or give a commandment to His people that is not calculated in its nature to promote that happiness which He has designed, and which will not end in the greatest amount of good and glory to those who become the recipients of His law and ordinances. " Joseph Smith Jr.
Dude Joseph Smith was obviously a smart mother fucker and everyone dumb enough to fall to his persuasion, it's sad to say, but they deserve it. I was born into the LDS church and I loved it, I still do, a lot of good people, the kind you wanted to surround yourself with. But i left the church because I stopped believing in God, I still go to singles ward tough, a lot of hot young, virgin women. AWWW YEAAH
I read somewhere that Joe Smith stole the Masons rituals and did that to get back at the Masons for kicking him out???? And that he was kicked out of the Masons for being a questionable character? True or not, I decided not to join. They keep knocking on my door, and I just dont answer the door. I dont want to make a commitment to them, and I would much rather go shopping at the mall on Sundays and ride my horse instead of going to church.
@Wellington5392 " I read somewhere that Joe Smith stole the Masons rituals "
Yes Smith introduced the Masonic Initiation ceremony as a revelation for the LDS Endowment Ceremony. He plageurised the Masonic Ritual after having pledged an oath to death should he reveal its Secrets outside of the Lodge. The LDS church was still doing the Masonic five points of fellowship at the veil and death oaths up until 1990, after which they removed them.
@SisterSkeeba Yep, I thought it was very interesting that those so called "Egyptian papers" had a round head drawn on them, and that is NOT how the ancient Egyptians made drawings. The egyptians drawings looked just like fox faces, but the one that JS said were real, had indeed looked fake to me. HIs "version" of that same drawing of what was supposed to be a person, looked just like a basketball!!
@Wellington5392 Nah, I dont wanna get involved in some Mormon stuff/church, etc,. Waaay too boring for me. I like to do what I want to do with my evenings and weekends. I do not owe anyone my time nor money. Nor do I have to pop out all those spirit babies. I'd like it to stay that way. Check out Utah Lighthouse Ministries. Damn, now I wont get my own planet! SHIT! what's a person to do?
@Wellington5392 Too bad you were close to alot of joy. Joseph was never sent packing from the Masons and there is no record of such. HIs character? He was a spititual leader,mayor,general,city planner,father,husband and friend to many.
he has witnesses to his experiences unlike the mobs. Its sad you decided to listen to the naysayers. I guess many followed the Saduccesses and Pharisses too. Why Christ was a man with a body! How could that be since Plato had convinced many God was just a Spirit
@scottwins2 I also heard that the suicide rates are quite high as the "membership" is always trying to live up to some impossible so called standard. Yep, it was Utah LIghthouse Ministries that showed me the facts and dates. I thought that the so called ProFit of LD$ inc got scammed as the Mark Hoffman papers were a cleverly forged document, & the ProFit proclaimed them to be "true", but IF he were a real proFit, wouldn't he have known they were not real? Hmmn?
@scottwins2 It was more misery being around the lot of them. They acted happy, BUT like peeling an onion, there were many layers and each level, "they" seemed so unhappy. I would be too, having to live up to some unrealistic goal that they put those out of reach goals, then get very sad when happiness is never achieved. so I will save myself from likes of them, and I do so love my beer and smokes.
"You don't know me; you never knew my heart. No man knows my history. I cannot tell it: I shall never undertake it. I don't blame any one for not believing my history. If I had not experienced what I have, I would not have believed it myself. I never did harm any man since I was born in the world. My voice is always for peace." Joseph Smith Jr.
Interesting, Mormon critics and Joseph Smith haters never quote from the journals of people that knew him to be honest and upright and a good citizen in the community, usually what you get is third party accounts of what somebody said about Joseph. Never the less, he is a marter to the truth and his witnesses to it never recanted there testimonies, including Martin Harris, David Whitmer, and Oliver Cowdery, as well as the other 8 witnesses to the Book of Mormon.
@scottwins2 " Mormon critics and Joseph Smith haters never quote from the journals of people that knew him to be honest and upright "
Then you need to read what David Whitmer said about him in his Address to Believers in Christ or perhaps what Oliver Cowdery said about his DIRTY FILTHY NASTY affair with Fanny Alger.
You are just a cult recruit, lying for the cult. Non of those Book of Mormon Witnesses even Joined your BRIGHAMITE SECT which is what you are. They all REJECTED Brigham Young.
@SisterSkeeba Fanny Alger was not credible, she was sleeping with another fellow not Joseph Smith. As far as David Whitmer, he had his testimony of those so called golden plates put on his tombstone.
You are not correct your hate blinds you, Martin Harris was re baptized as well as Oliver Cowdery. why? truth.
The information we have on Joseph Smith's plural marriages is sketchy, simply because there were few official records kept at the time because of the fear of misunderstanding and persecution. What we do know is culled from journals and reminiscences of those who were involved.
Probably the wife about whom we know the least is Fanny Alger, Joseph's first plural wife, whom he came to know in early 1833 when she stayed at the Smith home as a house-assistant of sorts to Emma (such work was common for young women at the time). There are no first-hand accounts of their relationship (from Joseph or Fanny), nor are there second-hand accounts (from Emma or Fanny's family). All that we do have is THIRD HAND accounts, most of them recorded many years after the events.
Oliver Cowdery said it was a DIRTY FILTHY NASTY affair. The sources that Smith was SCREWING around with Fanny Alger must be damn reliable because your own CULT BACKDATED D&C 132 in it's commentary to include SMITH and FANNY!!!!
88 words or phrases are the same in Masonry and in Mormon Temples. Given the fact the work had commenced with God to begin with 2000 yrs or so before there is no cause for alarm whatsoever .
@scottwins2 JOE SMITH joined the MASONS. SWORE a secrecy oath not to reveal the Masonic Initiation Ceremony. Two months later he comes up with The LDS Temple Endowment Ceremony complete with the Script from the Masonic Initiation Ceremony with a few words rearranged here and there.
@SisterSkeeba 88 words or phrases is hardly a copy. Do the Masons Baptize for the Dead in the Temple? NO. Do the Masons, have Marraiges in the Temple? NO. Is the a Special prayer room in a Masonic temple? NO Are families united in the masonic Temple? NO
@scottwins2 "Do the Masons Baptize for the Dead in the Temple? NO. Do the Masons, have Marraiges in the Temple? NO."
No they don't but they do the Secret Handshake nonsense as well as many other things he plageurised including the FIVE POINTS OF FELLOWSHIP AT THE VEIL which your cult has REMOVED in 1990 along with the DEATH OATH PENALTY THROAT SLITTING RE-ENACTMENT should they reveal the LDS Temple Tripe outside the Temple which was also removed in 1990. You are probably to young to know.
@SisterSkeeba " Do the Masons, have Marraiges in the Temple? NO. "
and niether do they arrange POLYGAMOUS MARRIAGE SEALINGS for Mormon Men who expect to have multiple wives to call out from the grave in the ressurrection.
Thats what the LDS Temples do and then members deny they have anything to do with Polygamy .Basically LYING FOR THE CULT.
This is a destructive family splitting cult that lies and deceives for its recruits.
@SisterSkeeba Next time a burger joint says my order will be delayed a few moments and asks for my name, I will tell her my name is Pay Lay Ale. Then when the worker who calls out my name, I will wait for her/him to call out "Pay Lay Ale"' at least 3x before I go pick up my order... and then I will say "Oh God, hear the words of my mouth" while I raise my arms up in a prayer circle! haha!
@scottwins2 ... You are a ignorant fool ( LDS ) my ass ..... Bunch of Idiots - You people worship the ( elders eg. J.S. ) FALSE PROFITS ... more than Jesus.
@MrRedneckcracker Not true, I am LDS and do not worship Joseph Smith, or its elders nor do I know any LDS people that do at all. In fact never. The name of the church is THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTERDAY SAINTS. That should give you a hint who we worship. I am not ignorant at all but your fowl mouth tells us who inspires you.
"[God] never will institute an ordinance or give a commandment to His people that is not calculated in its nature to promote that happiness which He has designed, and which will not end in the greatest amount of good and glory to those who become the recipients of His law and ordinances. " Joseph Smith Jr.
@scottwins2 Smith lying here also: “What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one. I am the same man, and as innocent as I was fourteen years ago; and I can
prove them all perjurers. I labored with these apostates myself until I was out of all manner of
patience; “
Address of the Prophet Joseph Smith (History of the Church Vol. 6, p. 408-412)- His Testimony Against the Dissenters at Nauvoo.(Sunday, May 26, 1844)
"I would that ye should come unto Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel, and partake of his salvation, and the power of his redemption. Yea, come unto him, and offer your whole souls as an offering unto him, and continue in fasting and praying, and endure to the end; and as the Lord liveth ye will be saved." Joseph Smith Jr.
@scottwins2 Why are you posting bullcrap from Sexual Predator Joe Smith? Only fools like you think he had anything important to say while he was secretly screwing around with Fanny Alger in the barn and then his teen housemaids and later 'other mens wives'.
Tell us about Joe Smith coercing 14 year olds to be his polygamous brides?
"I am a lover of the cause of Christ and of virtue, chastity, and an upright, steady course of conduct and a holy walk. I despise a hypocrite or a covenant breaker. I judge them not; God shall judge them according to their works. I am a lover even of mine enemies, for an enemy seeketh to destroy openly. I can pray for those who despitefully use and persecute me, but for all I cannot hope." Joseph Smith Jr.
@scottwins2 " "I am a lover of the cause of Christ and of virtue, chastity, and an upright, steady course of conduct and a holy walk"
and he then went on to cheat on his wife Emma screwing around with Fanny Alger in the Barn, interfered and married his housemaids without his wife knowing and the list goes on and on.
LDS inc cannot fool us anymore. LDS members and investigators are stil being deceived about Smith's real behaviour.
"You don't know me; you never knew my heart. No man knows my history. I cannot tell it: I shall never undertake it. I don't blame any one for not believing my history. If I had not experienced what I have, I would not have believed it myself. I never did harm any man since I was born in the world. My voice is always for peace." Joseph Smith Jr.
When ever i want a little science fiction in my life I turn to the masters of Bull hockey...mormons...every word that oozes from thier lips is utterly and amazingly and astounding.. in belief and just Phenomenally ...."not" credible or worth the time to waste one's breath on to tell them thier out of thier minds. We should all just sit back and relax because when he (Jesus) does come thier in for "ONE HELL OF A SHOCK!!"
“But even if we or an angel from heaven (moroni) should preach to you a gospel other than what we have preached to you, curse be on him!” Galatians 1:6-9 Mormon’s are not prepared for the coming apocalypse, Huge Sorrow will be to the mormon who refuse to see the truth, You have been warned your fall will be great. Read the BIBLE ONLY!
@23aberdeen Look...Most of my family claim to be Mormon. I am an Atheist. The difference in us is that I, like most Atheists, study religion critically and the religious do not. I know far more about Mormonism than any of my family because they only know what they're told to learn. Mormonism is far more fact-less than other religion because it's so young. It's lies are documented in history and can't be escaped. Why would I be "scared or intimidated" by lies? Sounds ridiculous to me.
Seem that sleazy Joseph Smith not only angered people by asking for his followers wives and daughters and even marrying them but also his subsequent lying and denial over it all and it seems he also broke his Masonic death Oath of secrecy and introduced masonic initiation secrets into his own mormon temple Endowment ceremony.
Mormon Endowment= Ripped off from Masons. Just like he ripped everything off all his life.
@thoostorm4 ... exactly - there is about 100 recorded sworn affidavits of Joseph Smiths neighbors, townsmen , and others that he was a lier , hoaxer, and con-man & that he bragged about starting his own religion for profit ... quote " let the damn fools believe it " as he laughed .. there's not enough space to tell all the ridiculous , obsurd , BS lies he did ( ecspecially in writing the book of morons ) .. How can people STILL believe this BS CULT ? HOW ??? OMG ps. not to mention PEDOPHILE
@MrRedneckcracker It appears you are a bottom feeder of the worst kind putting down a faith you know nothing about. The Book of Mormon? Actually if you knew your Bible you would find it spoken of there. The court cases themselves showed that the true liars were the makers of those affidavits. Lets pick one, The Constable that gave Joseph Smith the Mitmass that lead to his illegal arrest then his murder. The Mitmass was a FAKE! But in the end you let the Constables paper float right on buy.
@scottwins2 ---- I do know the bible well !!! ( the real bible not some book based on golden leaves in AMERICA from a scoundral ) I grew up in the bible belt ! ......& you say I'm a bottom feeder ??? LMAO .......... I'M NOT THE ONE IN A CULT.... LOL Plus sorry for saying ass & I'm drinking a pepsi ..... ohhh nooo think Joseph Smith ( since he sets beside Jesus ) will ever forgive me ..... scottwins btw is this your home page ?
Good. I just hope he becomes a Christian and accepts the Biblical Jesus. Remember. We have to give him the Word of God and pray that the Holy Spirit works on his heart and opens his eyes to the lies of LDS church and come to the Biblical Jesus
well looky LOOKY at this! Omi comment is "mysteriously" missing! Just like those phantom gold plates! & all the critics of MORmONISM are left with a one thumbs down rating on their comments.
Masons were feared initially, SMITH wrote of the suspicions of it being evil and linked to CAIN in his Moses book which he wrote in 1830 many years before he changed his mind and joined them
MOSES CHAPTER 5
31 And Cain said: Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great asecret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called MASTER MAHAN, and he gloried in his wickedness.
A quote from Morgans book Illustration of Masonry 1827 p26
Master returns to his seat..... and gets a lambskin or white apron: it is the badge of a mason.
SMITH Referring to Gadianton Robbers in more anti masonic senrtiment 3 Nephi 4:7
" And it came to pass that they did come to battle;..... and they were girded after the manner of the robbers; and they had a lambskin about their loins.."
One of the most prominent New York Masons involved in the Morgan Murder was a man named 'Giddins'
SMITH yet again plageurising from his enviroment
3 Nephi3:9
'And behold I am Giddianhi, and I am Governor of this secret society of Gadianton; which society,and of the works thereof, I know to be good;and they are of ancient date, and they have been handed down unto us.'
John The Baptist must have been a different type of Mason then as the Masonic movement as we know it today took root in 18th-century England, where the first Grand Lodge was established in 1717.
wow that is really comical omi -super stupid ass MORmON! since Masonic order is gnostic in origin & completely anti Christian. Of course John the Baptist
did get his throat slit ...to the extent of decapitation! Just as whacko Masonic Mormon Joe alludes to with his Laban story.
Both both mormons and masons are not christians
jayhawk88z 3 weeks ago
There is very little information on Fanny. as far a polygamy most information is 2nd or 3rd hand. For people to hate mormonism for polygamy is like hating Moses for the law of Moses. Polygamy was practiced all throught he old Testament and continued with the gentiles well past the meetings of Niacea.
scottwins2 2 months ago
Probably the wife about whom we know the least is Fanny Alger, Joseph's first plural wife, whom he came to know in early 1833 when she stayed at the Smith home as a house-assistant of sorts to Emma (such work was common for young women at the time). There are no first-hand accounts of their relationship (from Joseph or Fanny), nor are there second-hand accounts (from Emma or Fanny's family). All that we do have is THIRD HAND accounts, most of them recorded many years after the events.
scottwins2 3 months ago
@scottwins2 I thought Fanny was 1832. What is the date of the prophecy commanding Joseph to marry extra women?
awolLDSasap 2 months ago
No Deciples of Christ here.
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"You don't know me; you never knew my heart. No man knows my history. I cannot tell it: I shall never undertake it. I don't blame any one for not believing my history. If I had not experienced what I have, I would not have believed it myself. I never did harm any man since I was born in the world. My voice is always for peace." Joseph Smith Jr
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"I am a lover of the cause of Christ and of virtue, chastity, and an upright, steady course of conduct and a holy walk. I despise a hypocrite or a covenant breaker. I judge them not; God shall judge them according to their works. I am a lover even of mine enemies, for an enemy seeketh to destroy openly. I can pray for those who despitefully use and persecute me, but for all I cannot hope." Joseph Smith Jr.
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"[God] never will institute an ordinance or give a commandment to His people that is not calculated in its nature to promote that happiness which He has designed, and which will not end in the greatest amount of good and glory to those who become the recipients of His law and ordinances. " Joseph Smith Jr.
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Dude Joseph Smith was obviously a smart mother fucker and everyone dumb enough to fall to his persuasion, it's sad to say, but they deserve it. I was born into the LDS church and I loved it, I still do, a lot of good people, the kind you wanted to surround yourself with. But i left the church because I stopped believing in God, I still go to singles ward tough, a lot of hot young, virgin women. AWWW YEAAH
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gerkkid 5 months ago
I read somewhere that Joe Smith stole the Masons rituals and did that to get back at the Masons for kicking him out???? And that he was kicked out of the Masons for being a questionable character? True or not, I decided not to join. They keep knocking on my door, and I just dont answer the door. I dont want to make a commitment to them, and I would much rather go shopping at the mall on Sundays and ride my horse instead of going to church.
Wellington5392 7 months ago
@Wellington5392 " I read somewhere that Joe Smith stole the Masons rituals "
Yes Smith introduced the Masonic Initiation ceremony as a revelation for the LDS Endowment Ceremony. He plageurised the Masonic Ritual after having pledged an oath to death should he reveal its Secrets outside of the Lodge. The LDS church was still doing the Masonic five points of fellowship at the veil and death oaths up until 1990, after which they removed them.
Smith stole ideas for his cult everywhere.
SisterSkeeba 7 months ago
@SisterSkeeba Yep, I thought it was very interesting that those so called "Egyptian papers" had a round head drawn on them, and that is NOT how the ancient Egyptians made drawings. The egyptians drawings looked just like fox faces, but the one that JS said were real, had indeed looked fake to me. HIs "version" of that same drawing of what was supposed to be a person, looked just like a basketball!!
Wellington5392 7 months ago
@Wellington5392 Sister Skeeba, you ned to study more. Baptism for the dead was practiced during the time of Paul. So it is practiced today.
Your a great friend of the Saduccees and Pharisees it appears filled with venom.
scottwins2 3 months ago
@scottwins2 Who's Paul?
Wellington5392 3 months ago
@scottwins2 Who's Saduccees and who is Pharisees?
Wellington5392 3 months ago
@Wellington5392 Nah, I dont wanna get involved in some Mormon stuff/church, etc,. Waaay too boring for me. I like to do what I want to do with my evenings and weekends. I do not owe anyone my time nor money. Nor do I have to pop out all those spirit babies. I'd like it to stay that way. Check out Utah Lighthouse Ministries. Damn, now I wont get my own planet! SHIT! what's a person to do?
Wellington5392 3 months ago
@Wellington5392 GOD DAMMIT!!! No planet for me!
Wellington5392 3 months ago
@Wellington5392 Too bad you were close to alot of joy. Joseph was never sent packing from the Masons and there is no record of such. HIs character? He was a spititual leader,mayor,general,city planner,father,husband and friend to many.
he has witnesses to his experiences unlike the mobs. Its sad you decided to listen to the naysayers. I guess many followed the Saduccesses and Pharisses too. Why Christ was a man with a body! How could that be since Plato had convinced many God was just a Spirit
scottwins2 3 months ago
@scottwins2 I also heard that the suicide rates are quite high as the "membership" is always trying to live up to some impossible so called standard. Yep, it was Utah LIghthouse Ministries that showed me the facts and dates. I thought that the so called ProFit of LD$ inc got scammed as the Mark Hoffman papers were a cleverly forged document, & the ProFit proclaimed them to be "true", but IF he were a real proFit, wouldn't he have known they were not real? Hmmn?
Wellington5392 3 months ago
@scottwins2 It was more misery being around the lot of them. They acted happy, BUT like peeling an onion, there were many layers and each level, "they" seemed so unhappy. I would be too, having to live up to some unrealistic goal that they put those out of reach goals, then get very sad when happiness is never achieved. so I will save myself from likes of them, and I do so love my beer and smokes.
Wellington5392 3 months ago
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"You don't know me; you never knew my heart. No man knows my history. I cannot tell it: I shall never undertake it. I don't blame any one for not believing my history. If I had not experienced what I have, I would not have believed it myself. I never did harm any man since I was born in the world. My voice is always for peace." Joseph Smith Jr.
scottwins2 7 months ago
Interesting, Mormon critics and Joseph Smith haters never quote from the journals of people that knew him to be honest and upright and a good citizen in the community, usually what you get is third party accounts of what somebody said about Joseph. Never the less, he is a marter to the truth and his witnesses to it never recanted there testimonies, including Martin Harris, David Whitmer, and Oliver Cowdery, as well as the other 8 witnesses to the Book of Mormon.
scottwins2 7 months ago
@scottwins2 " Mormon critics and Joseph Smith haters never quote from the journals of people that knew him to be honest and upright "
Then you need to read what David Whitmer said about him in his Address to Believers in Christ or perhaps what Oliver Cowdery said about his DIRTY FILTHY NASTY affair with Fanny Alger.
You are just a cult recruit, lying for the cult. Non of those Book of Mormon Witnesses even Joined your BRIGHAMITE SECT which is what you are. They all REJECTED Brigham Young.
SisterSkeeba 7 months ago
@SisterSkeeba Fanny Alger was not credible, she was sleeping with another fellow not Joseph Smith. As far as David Whitmer, he had his testimony of those so called golden plates put on his tombstone.
You are not correct your hate blinds you, Martin Harris was re baptized as well as Oliver Cowdery. why? truth.
scottwins2 3 months ago
@scottwins2 Fanny was sleeping with someone else? Is that why she fled town and never contacted the Smiths again?
awolLDSasap 2 months ago
The information we have on Joseph Smith's plural marriages is sketchy, simply because there were few official records kept at the time because of the fear of misunderstanding and persecution. What we do know is culled from journals and reminiscences of those who were involved.
scottwins2 7 months ago
@scottwins2 Wahst with the LAZY CUT and PASTE from Moronic LDS Apologetics.
Either comment in your own words or go waste someone elses time. Mormon Timewaster and Cult leader supporter.
If we want that drivvle we can read FARMSand FAIRS bulltripe.
SisterSkeeba 7 months ago
Probably the wife about whom we know the least is Fanny Alger, Joseph's first plural wife, whom he came to know in early 1833 when she stayed at the Smith home as a house-assistant of sorts to Emma (such work was common for young women at the time). There are no first-hand accounts of their relationship (from Joseph or Fanny), nor are there second-hand accounts (from Emma or Fanny's family). All that we do have is THIRD HAND accounts, most of them recorded many years after the events.
scottwins2 7 months ago
@scottwins2
Oliver Cowdery said it was a DIRTY FILTHY NASTY affair. The sources that Smith was SCREWING around with Fanny Alger must be damn reliable because your own CULT BACKDATED D&C 132 in it's commentary to include SMITH and FANNY!!!!
Stupid lying Cult Apologist scottwins2.
SisterSkeeba 7 months ago
88 words or phrases are the same in Masonry and in Mormon Temples. Given the fact the work had commenced with God to begin with 2000 yrs or so before there is no cause for alarm whatsoever .
scottwins2 7 months ago
@scottwins2 JOE SMITH joined the MASONS. SWORE a secrecy oath not to reveal the Masonic Initiation Ceremony. Two months later he comes up with The LDS Temple Endowment Ceremony complete with the Script from the Masonic Initiation Ceremony with a few words rearranged here and there.
Post your asspologetics refuse elsewhere.
SisterSkeeba 7 months ago
@SisterSkeeba 88 words or phrases is hardly a copy. Do the Masons Baptize for the Dead in the Temple? NO. Do the Masons, have Marraiges in the Temple? NO. Is the a Special prayer room in a Masonic temple? NO Are families united in the masonic Temple? NO
scottwins2 7 months ago
@scottwins2 "Do the Masons Baptize for the Dead in the Temple? NO. Do the Masons, have Marraiges in the Temple? NO."
No they don't but they do the Secret Handshake nonsense as well as many other things he plageurised including the FIVE POINTS OF FELLOWSHIP AT THE VEIL which your cult has REMOVED in 1990 along with the DEATH OATH PENALTY THROAT SLITTING RE-ENACTMENT should they reveal the LDS Temple Tripe outside the Temple which was also removed in 1990. You are probably to young to know.
SisterSkeeba 7 months ago
@SisterSkeeba " Do the Masons, have Marraiges in the Temple? NO. "
and niether do they arrange POLYGAMOUS MARRIAGE SEALINGS for Mormon Men who expect to have multiple wives to call out from the grave in the ressurrection.
Thats what the LDS Temples do and then members deny they have anything to do with Polygamy .Basically LYING FOR THE CULT.
This is a destructive family splitting cult that lies and deceives for its recruits.
SisterSkeeba 7 months ago
@SisterSkeeba Next time a burger joint says my order will be delayed a few moments and asks for my name, I will tell her my name is Pay Lay Ale. Then when the worker who calls out my name, I will wait for her/him to call out "Pay Lay Ale"' at least 3x before I go pick up my order... and then I will say "Oh God, hear the words of my mouth" while I raise my arms up in a prayer circle! haha!
Wellington5392 3 months ago
@scottwins2 Actually its 40 words or phrases
scottwins2 7 months ago
@scottwins2 ... You are a ignorant fool ( LDS ) my ass ..... Bunch of Idiots - You people worship the ( elders eg. J.S. ) FALSE PROFITS ... more than Jesus.
MrRedneckcracker 3 months ago
@MrRedneckcracker Not true, I am LDS and do not worship Joseph Smith, or its elders nor do I know any LDS people that do at all. In fact never. The name of the church is THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTERDAY SAINTS. That should give you a hint who we worship. I am not ignorant at all but your fowl mouth tells us who inspires you.
scottwins2 3 months ago
@scottwins2 The church of cheese and crackers of rattling snakes? No wine? DAMN!
Wellington5392 3 months ago
"[God] never will institute an ordinance or give a commandment to His people that is not calculated in its nature to promote that happiness which He has designed, and which will not end in the greatest amount of good and glory to those who become the recipients of His law and ordinances. " Joseph Smith Jr.
scottwins2 8 months ago
@scottwins2 Smith lying here also: “What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one. I am the same man, and as innocent as I was fourteen years ago; and I can
prove them all perjurers. I labored with these apostates myself until I was out of all manner of
patience; “
Address of the Prophet Joseph Smith (History of the Church Vol. 6, p. 408-412)- His Testimony Against the Dissenters at Nauvoo.(Sunday, May 26, 1844)
ElderJoseph 7 months ago
"I would that ye should come unto Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel, and partake of his salvation, and the power of his redemption. Yea, come unto him, and offer your whole souls as an offering unto him, and continue in fasting and praying, and endure to the end; and as the Lord liveth ye will be saved." Joseph Smith Jr.
scottwins2 8 months ago
@scottwins2 Why are you posting bullcrap from Sexual Predator Joe Smith? Only fools like you think he had anything important to say while he was secretly screwing around with Fanny Alger in the barn and then his teen housemaids and later 'other mens wives'.
Tell us about Joe Smith coercing 14 year olds to be his polygamous brides?
ElderJoseph 7 months ago
"I am a lover of the cause of Christ and of virtue, chastity, and an upright, steady course of conduct and a holy walk. I despise a hypocrite or a covenant breaker. I judge them not; God shall judge them according to their works. I am a lover even of mine enemies, for an enemy seeketh to destroy openly. I can pray for those who despitefully use and persecute me, but for all I cannot hope." Joseph Smith Jr.
scottwins2 8 months ago
@scottwins2 " "I am a lover of the cause of Christ and of virtue, chastity, and an upright, steady course of conduct and a holy walk"
and he then went on to cheat on his wife Emma screwing around with Fanny Alger in the Barn, interfered and married his housemaids without his wife knowing and the list goes on and on.
LDS inc cannot fool us anymore. LDS members and investigators are stil being deceived about Smith's real behaviour.
ElderJoseph 7 months ago
"You don't know me; you never knew my heart. No man knows my history. I cannot tell it: I shall never undertake it. I don't blame any one for not believing my history. If I had not experienced what I have, I would not have believed it myself. I never did harm any man since I was born in the world. My voice is always for peace." Joseph Smith Jr.
scottwins2 8 months ago
THE ALL-SEEING EYE APPEARS RIGHT ABOVE THE STAND IN THE ST GEORGE UTAH TABERNACLE CAN'T MISS, UNLESS IT HAS BEEN PAINTED OVER SINCE 2004
MrAccordionPimp 8 months ago
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When ever i want a little science fiction in my life I turn to the masters of Bull hockey...mormons...every word that oozes from thier lips is utterly and amazingly and astounding.. in belief and just Phenomenally ...."not" credible or worth the time to waste one's breath on to tell them thier out of thier minds. We should all just sit back and relax because when he (Jesus) does come thier in for "ONE HELL OF A SHOCK!!"
JSeely218 10 months ago
The link between Masonic rituals is undeniable.
Thanks for posting.
Mormons are leaving in droves because of garbage like this.
We need to pray the floodgates open.
thesignsoflife7 11 months ago 3
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“But even if we or an angel from heaven (moroni) should preach to you a gospel other than what we have preached to you, curse be on him!” Galatians 1:6-9 Mormon’s are not prepared for the coming apocalypse, Huge Sorrow will be to the mormon who refuse to see the truth, You have been warned your fall will be great. Read the BIBLE ONLY!
imationqwest 1 year ago
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23aberdeen 1 year ago
@23aberdeen Look...Most of my family claim to be Mormon. I am an Atheist. The difference in us is that I, like most Atheists, study religion critically and the religious do not. I know far more about Mormonism than any of my family because they only know what they're told to learn. Mormonism is far more fact-less than other religion because it's so young. It's lies are documented in history and can't be escaped. Why would I be "scared or intimidated" by lies? Sounds ridiculous to me.
Mikedogg13666 1 year ago
Seem that sleazy Joseph Smith not only angered people by asking for his followers wives and daughters and even marrying them but also his subsequent lying and denial over it all and it seems he also broke his Masonic death Oath of secrecy and introduced masonic initiation secrets into his own mormon temple Endowment ceremony.
Mormon Endowment= Ripped off from Masons. Just like he ripped everything off all his life.
ElderJoseph 2 years ago 4
@ElderJoseph what do you expect from a conman
thoostorm4 3 months ago
@thoostorm4 ... exactly - there is about 100 recorded sworn affidavits of Joseph Smiths neighbors, townsmen , and others that he was a lier , hoaxer, and con-man & that he bragged about starting his own religion for profit ... quote " let the damn fools believe it " as he laughed .. there's not enough space to tell all the ridiculous , obsurd , BS lies he did ( ecspecially in writing the book of morons ) .. How can people STILL believe this BS CULT ? HOW ??? OMG ps. not to mention PEDOPHILE
MrRedneckcracker 3 months ago
@MrRedneckcracker It appears you are a bottom feeder of the worst kind putting down a faith you know nothing about. The Book of Mormon? Actually if you knew your Bible you would find it spoken of there. The court cases themselves showed that the true liars were the makers of those affidavits. Lets pick one, The Constable that gave Joseph Smith the Mitmass that lead to his illegal arrest then his murder. The Mitmass was a FAKE! But in the end you let the Constables paper float right on buy.
scottwins2 3 months ago
@scottwins2 ---- I do know the bible well !!! ( the real bible not some book based on golden leaves in AMERICA from a scoundral ) I grew up in the bible belt ! ......& you say I'm a bottom feeder ??? LMAO .......... I'M NOT THE ONE IN A CULT.... LOL Plus sorry for saying ass & I'm drinking a pepsi ..... ohhh nooo think Joseph Smith ( since he sets beside Jesus ) will ever forgive me ..... scottwins btw is this your home page ?
MrRedneckcracker 3 months ago
omiolo has finally resorted to pulling his own comments, because the heat is just too much for him.
carkunkula 2 years ago
Good. I just hope he becomes a Christian and accepts the Biblical Jesus. Remember. We have to give him the Word of God and pray that the Holy Spirit works on his heart and opens his eyes to the lies of LDS church and come to the Biblical Jesus
KakkoiGuy1 2 years ago
well looky LOOKY at this! Omi comment is "mysteriously" missing! Just like those phantom gold plates! & all the critics of MORmONISM are left with a one thumbs down rating on their comments.
PO! PO! CWY BABY MORmONS!
carkunkula 2 years ago
The Masons were angry at the Mormons.
They weren't allowed to join until 1984.
awolLDSasap 2 years ago
Masons were feared initially, SMITH wrote of the suspicions of it being evil and linked to CAIN in his Moses book which he wrote in 1830 many years before he changed his mind and joined them
MOSES CHAPTER 5
31 And Cain said: Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great asecret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called MASTER MAHAN, and he gloried in his wickedness.
ElderJoseph 2 years ago
the early Christians were Masons. John the Baptist was the first Mason according to renown historian Jasper Ridley.
omiolo2 2 years ago
A quote from Morgans book Illustration of Masonry 1827 p26
Master returns to his seat..... and gets a lambskin or white apron: it is the badge of a mason.
SMITH Referring to Gadianton Robbers in more anti masonic senrtiment 3 Nephi 4:7
" And it came to pass that they did come to battle;..... and they were girded after the manner of the robbers; and they had a lambskin about their loins.."
ElderJoseph 2 years ago
One of the most prominent New York Masons involved in the Morgan Murder was a man named 'Giddins'
SMITH yet again plageurising from his enviroment
3 Nephi3:9
'And behold I am Giddianhi, and I am Governor of this secret society of Gadianton; which society,and of the works thereof, I know to be good;and they are of ancient date, and they have been handed down unto us.'
ElderJoseph 2 years ago
OUCH!
MORmONISM crushed
with the facts again!
settypatch 2 years ago
John The Baptist must have been a different type of Mason then as the Masonic movement as we know it today took root in 18th-century England, where the first Grand Lodge was established in 1717.
ElderJoseph 2 years ago
oly believes that the temple secrets came from Solomons temple.
awolLDSasap 2 years ago
well go to the library & check out the DVD on the knights templar which totally shreds that notion ! thats a JOKE !
settypatch 2 years ago
that's funny...
awolLDSasap 2 years ago
wow that is really comical omi -super stupid ass MORmON! since Masonic order is gnostic in origin & completely anti Christian. Of course John the Baptist
did get his throat slit ...to the extent of decapitation! Just as whacko Masonic Mormon Joe alludes to with his Laban story.
settypatch 2 years ago