All this killing for money and power nothing change in what 4,000 years, This time all the Parsites have to go. And I dont just mean overseas its the one with in.That are the most dangers. Money and power how sick you all are.
An idiot is claiming that we don't know the identity of the Boeing 757 that crashed into the Pentagon. For ten years, we have known that it was American Airlines Flight 77. All but five of the passengers and crew members were identified by DNA testing.
Are you guys not americans. Shut up and belove what u r going to believe. it was a terrorist attack. on september 11th 2001. and that is what u should be believing
@GARRETT12100 Yeah! GO BACK TO BED AMERICA! Your government is in CONTROL! YOU'RE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!!! YOU'RE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!!! YOU'RE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!!! YOU'RE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!!! YOU'RE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!
they cant even tell us what plane hit the pentagon. From what airlines? And we dont see any interviews from witnessess or families who lost their loved ones on the plane. Even from flight 93. Have you ever seen an interview with the familes who lost their loved ones? Of coarse not cause it was no terrorist attack and no people died except the pilot.
and by the way....there were, literally, HUNDREDS of security cameras at the Pentagon...if they're so damn determined to prove it was a plan than release some footage and shut the doubters up....
this hole is NOT big enough to prove that a plane smashed into the Pentagon... it's much too clean of a hole and much too small...c'mon people!...really...don't believe the lies...and besides...how in the world can you attack one of the most guarded buildings in the world 40 MINUTES AFTER the first attack...the most powerful Air Force in the world couldn't scramble fighter jets in that amount of time to protect this building??? Really???...DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES!!!
@azar783408 The fuselage was strong enough to go through the concrete but the wings were much weaker and could not go though the reinforced structure. Arguably you can say that a plane fuselage is not strong enough to go through the pentagon' reinforced walls either but the plane was going so fast that it went through it easily. No missile. No bomb. No inside job.
@dotcombatgames i'm the stupid shit? i bet i've seen more crashes in REAL LIFE than you..wheres the plane engines asswipe? o yeah the amount of penetration of the building? <...you sound like the dumbshit. go play your nintendo idiot. leave the real work to us adults of exposing the cointepro .
@gsxr750ia "claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it." well that really takes "a special kind of asshole" , you sir are the child, and you are not living, you are dieing
@gsxr750ia lets use some commensense, this is the pentagon, this is a structure designed to withstand a nuclear blast, so why do you think there are no wing imprints? Concrete, possibly as thick as your skull
@Jordans03 where in the hell do you see me mention bullet proof glass, stick to the subject, i was talking about concrete, bullletproof glass and concrete as an analogy is like butter and sand
@dotcombatgames Do you know what a metaphor is???? That's kind of what I just used to compare your "Structure designed to withstand a nuclear blast" ...... Dick head
This is great for everyone to see and observe, then think and make up their own minds. Also, if I were a hijacker aiming for the Pentagon, expecting to be hotly pursued by armed jet fighters on 9/11, on a suicide mission - then this story makes no sense. I wouldn't circle around and come in low to hit the most unpopulated part of the building. I'd dive bomb the place straight down Kamikaze style.
There were no bodies and virtually no debris when ValueJet 592 crashed in the Everglades in 1996. So it's plausible to have a 737 crash into the pentagon and not expect any thing to be left behind.
conspiracy theorists are retarded,"no bodies left cuz the god dang plane EXPLODED!!!,what part of an explosion do u not understand?it wasn't a car crash.o yea and how about the EYE WITNESSES that saw a jet liner?let me guess they were aliens working for the c.i.a?
@lonewolf432 Of course. And that's why there's no FLIGHT RECORDER. Have you EVER IN HISTORY before 9/11 HEARD of ANY airline crash with absolutely NO BODIES? NO. Yet on 9/11 there were 4. And you've NEVER before 9/11 heard of DESTROYED flight recorders... yet, on 9/11 there were 4 (oh, but ONE passport survived...umm hmmm). And you've NEVER before 9/11 heard of ANY buildings being brought down by fires. Yet on 9/11 there were 3. umm hmmm
dude you guys sound fucking retarded, both of you are probably in high school judging by your spelling. jesus christ. it was an unmanned, remote controlled drone aircraft. thats why they only found one turbine engine, and the 2 5-ton titanium and aluminum turbine jet engines didnt break the windows...
I love the line of civilians in a line looking for the 100 tonnes of debris that didint exist. Not a shred of debris to be found because there was NO PLANE!
Umm, yes DUMB indeed, as no one is as DUMB as YOU. The cab drivers name was Lloyd England and he wasnt killed you dumbfuck, he claims his cab was hit by a light pole.
Have a little think before you try and make smartass statements, retard.
But the missile theory is just as stupid, if their was a missile it would have to zig zag around light poles to pull them out of the ground, make enough force to push a roughly 10 ton generator back and hit the pentagon at ease. in one of the new videos it shows the generator including other sites you can find online.
I didnt claim that it was a missile, I dont know what hit the Pentagon because all the evidence was covered up or confiscated, all I know is that there is NO evidence for a 757 crash.
So your saying that an aluminium plane was able to take out 5 light poles, a generator and FYI a concrete wall? How do aluminium wings and fuselage withstand so many solid impacts and stay intact? How come the flight data recorder of the supposed plane show an altitude to high to take out the light poles?
Well i am claiming that Loose Change did not put the generator into the simulator because it would be another trace that it wasn't a missile. The flight data recorder showed that it was lower than that. Also you have to consider that the plane was going as fast as a .45 bullet and conparing George Bush's senior private jet that crashed is ridiculous. The plane did a 45 degree left bank and a 45 degree nose dive at the same time and it is proven in the flight data recorder.
Loose Change?? Dont tell me thats the only evidence that you follow?
If you have any evidence of a 757 crash I would like to see it. A damaged generator does not mean it was a 757 and as I said earlier, an aluminium airliner cannot fly at high speed at ground level nor can it withstand impacts with solid stationary objects, 5 light poles which would have sheered the wings off, an iron genertor would have made a mess as well as the concrete wall.
In my theory is the plane went to a 45 left bank then the plane's left wing hit the generator and turn into a 45 nose dive. Now if the plane would have been straight on like the north tower's impact, it would have been a lot more damage to the pentagon. Also the generator was slanted towards the pentagon which means that it was something much more bigger than a missile let alone a global hawk.
Your ''theory''? Why do you need to theorise?! Your government should have provided conclusive findings of this supposed plane crash but instead have provided nothing but rhetoric and called it fact. The crime scene was covered up, 84 security cameras confiscated and not a single shred of peer viewed investigation data of the ''debris'' to support the physic defying fairy tale official story.
The FBI has admitted to confiscating all the videos.
What pictures do you have that conclusively prove a 757 holding 70 odd passengers crashed?
I DID NOT ignore the generator info, in fact I highlighted it plus the light poles and a concrete wall that failed to even mention, how does a hollow aluminium plane withstand such impacts?
And finally, it was YOU who started this debate and I think its vitally important that you and others get your facts straight about a crime perpetrated on all of us.
warlord2080~ ''I have a question why do you people try to convert people into believing this like its a religion? ''
Thats great,..coming from a person who has listed on their homepage that they are a ''Conspiracy theorist debunker''. Seems like your trying to do some religious converting of your own, but I guess if it is hypocrisy that you are defending then you have to be a hypocrite yourself. Good job!
So I am coverting people to new age religion based on my topics? Ok i take back my criticism,but you have to provide evidence instead of doing questions based on speculation which is clearly not evidence in my opinion. Here is your source of your claim?
Oh, so now we are going to an ANIMATION as evidence? Either way for arguments sake, how does a 100 ton 757 fly just meters off the ground as shown in the cartoon? You'll find that ground effect would make it break up long before it reached its destination, how would it level out to ground level in a domesticated area also for such a large plane? How come large cable spools were untouched as they lay directly in front of the impact zone? Wheres the wings, tail section?
Lets begin by the ground effect which actually reduces drag and improves aircraft performance not plow huge furrows in the ground. And if being close to the ground had any potential to cause huge craters, why is Midway airport in Chicago surrounded by houses dboutDOTcom/Valor05/carnival_valor_v2005_200006DOTjpg Do you see any craters in the lawn at Midway? Anyway we should take this at the PM rather than on the video comments.
watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8&feature this is a animation case study of the crash which is also guided by this 911debunker*DOT*livejournal*DOT*com/2647*DOT*html. can you make your rebuttal against this?. In a cremetorium it takes 1800 C in 90 minutes to destory DNA and teeth, unfortunately the pentagon's fire didn't reach that even if it did, it certainly did not last for 90 minutes at that tempurature.~911mythsDOTcom/html/757_wreckage*DOT*html~ this is pictures from the Moussaoui trial.
Not sure whats your point about the fire except that maybe fire could not have destroyed the plane debris and 70 passenger bodies, so where are they?? Where is there luggage and seating? There should be tones of debris except there is NOTHING, only a couple of obscure photos that are neither verified of their authenticity or their origin, NOTHING.
much of the debris would be inside the building Furthermore, when a aluminum plane meets a concrete wall, the airframe shatters not disintigrates and produces a debris field like this ~911mythsDOTcom/assets/images/db_images/db_Pentagon_Debris_91DOTjpg~ note take a look at the background. If haven't take note of the Moussaoui trial it was the one that brought it to public view. ~911researchDOTwtc7DOTnet/pentagon/evidence/photos/humanremainsDOThtml~ this shows charred human remains in thisweb.
We are talking about 100 ton of airplane and passengers here. Its scientifically impossible for that matter to disappear. The official story even claims that it ''disintegrated''
The ''charred human remains'' you refer to are pentagon workers not passenger victims. There were 70 passengers supposedly, depending on which propaganda you read yet theres not a trace of them or their luggage or seating ect, this would have been a massive crash scene but there is NO evidence, no rush for survivors.
The official story didn't say anything about the plane disintegrated its mostly a strawman arguement. Again your pointing out 70 passengers yet you're assuming that the people who were taking the pictures, should also take the 70 passengers at the pentagon to prove that all 70 are present which is underminded evidence. Your Arguement based that the plane disintegrated~which i did show the debris field~and that there were no bodies at the pentagon.can you provide evidence that it was workers?
The official story states that there is a lack of debris because the plane disintegrated on impact, if that is not correct then explain to me where the wings and tail section of the plane are?
The photos are un-verified and un investigated by an independent body of peers. Plane parts can come from any type of aircraft and the small amount of photos available are not consistent with a 757 aircraft. Prove me wrong by posting the investigation data on them, if you can find any.
A 100 ton airliner carrying 70 passengers is going to leave an awful mess! Yet there's not a body in sight, no luggage, no seating, no ambulances scrambling for survivors, after a victim count of 70 PEOPLE???
please go to personal message instead of video comments. Your missing some detail within the photos. I do congraduate you on one of the photos that yes the 2nd picture person in the shirt and pant is a pentagon worker but, your missing something the worker is unscatched with no damage to the clothes he is wearing. Also notice the first picture the charred human, notice the tilt in head which is part of evidence as the person is in the seat. within a noticable sign of this it is clear that the..
Your missing a vital point with all of this, you are only speculating on everything your defending. You have no investigative data to rely on, no conclusive evidence to provide, not even clear and un-obscured photos to show. That's not your fault, but it shows that only rhetoric and propaganda was provided by official sources to substantiate the official story that they want us to believe. Don't you think its time to change your stance, open your mind and really see whats going on?
no further evidence i feel as though your motives is to elevate evidence and call it evidence fallacy as your rebuttal means nothing to me. Without your so called evidence or the what you think that caused the big hole you can not proceed in this debate, Your arguments or claim need evidence to coincide of what your talking about. I rest my case on this debate, it seems as though nothing is being push forward and my opponent is ignoring the evidence I presented to him.
You have presented no scientific evidence what so ever. I repeat, obscure photos and rhetoric are not evidence after such a monumental crime scene. If the official story was true you would be able to prove it to me easily because there would a mountain of investigation data to throw at me, instead you seem unable to answer the curly questions about the flip flop impossible physics that you have swallowed without any logical thought put into it. I'm not surprised you want to run.
supposed person wouldn't have been in the building at that time, because photo 2 shows it differently. If the conspirators tried to put clothes on the charred person there would be complications. No ambulances??imageenvisionDOTcom/md/0003-0702-2522-3760DOTjpg I don't think there were any survivors. Your luggage claim is ridiculous if you can show me a luggage that is fire proof I might coincide.
Again, we are talking (count them slowly) 70, I said SEVENTY, passengers in a moving aluminium shell that hit a static concrete building. Its amusing how defenders of the official farcical story play flip flop physics, ie the plane didnt leave a hole big enough to encompass the wings because it was only aluminium yet almost in same breath they claim all the plane, its engines and contents buried it self thru a16 ft hole all the way to c ring! So which one of these do you subscribe to then?
where' the plane?
lashona40 1 month ago
All this killing for money and power nothing change in what 4,000 years, This time all the Parsites have to go. And I dont just mean overseas its the one with in.That are the most dangers. Money and power how sick you all are.
RoflmaoAtSheepeople 3 months ago
It was a remote missle attack at the pentagon and the twin towers...
RaisedSphynx 3 months ago
An idiot is claiming that we don't know the identity of the Boeing 757 that crashed into the Pentagon. For ten years, we have known that it was American Airlines Flight 77. All but five of the passengers and crew members were identified by DNA testing.
RonaldWieck 3 months ago
*believe
GARRETT12100 4 months ago
Are you guys not americans. Shut up and belove what u r going to believe. it was a terrorist attack. on september 11th 2001. and that is what u should be believing
GARRETT12100 4 months ago
@GARRETT12100 Yeah! GO BACK TO BED AMERICA! Your government is in CONTROL! YOU'RE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!!! YOU'RE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!!! YOU'RE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!!! YOU'RE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!!! YOU'RE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!
JamaicaSound79 4 months ago
@GARRETT12100 THA'S IS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE...
RaisedSphynx 3 months ago
notice how on 9-11 every year they have a memorial service for flight 93 and the wtc but not the pentagon?
misskaryn9902 4 months ago
@misskaryn9902 911 is all about the terrorists attacks... those places you just named were hit the hardest
GARRETT12100 3 months ago
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misskaryn9902 4 months ago
and no wing prints in the pentagon? Ok so maybe they fell off? Now you tell me where those wings are? I see none.
misskaryn9902 4 months ago
they cant even tell us what plane hit the pentagon. From what airlines? And we dont see any interviews from witnessess or families who lost their loved ones on the plane. Even from flight 93. Have you ever seen an interview with the familes who lost their loved ones? Of coarse not cause it was no terrorist attack and no people died except the pilot.
misskaryn9902 4 months ago
and by the way....there were, literally, HUNDREDS of security cameras at the Pentagon...if they're so damn determined to prove it was a plan than release some footage and shut the doubters up....
trust me....that ain't gonna happen
seansaccount101 4 months ago
this hole is NOT big enough to prove that a plane smashed into the Pentagon... it's much too clean of a hole and much too small...c'mon people!...really...don't believe the lies...and besides...how in the world can you attack one of the most guarded buildings in the world 40 MINUTES AFTER the first attack...the most powerful Air Force in the world couldn't scramble fighter jets in that amount of time to protect this building??? Really???...DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES!!!
seansaccount101 4 months ago
@azar783408 The fuselage was strong enough to go through the concrete but the wings were much weaker and could not go though the reinforced structure. Arguably you can say that a plane fuselage is not strong enough to go through the pentagon' reinforced walls either but the plane was going so fast that it went through it easily. No missile. No bomb. No inside job.
CyberMollySystems 4 months ago
@azar783408 You might want to ask for a refund for the tuition you spent on your engineering, physics, and architecture degrees.
jjobie 4 months ago in playlist Attack on America on 9/11/2001 - Ten Years Later
why would you need so many people to pick up debris so soon after the crash.....wouldnt the focus be more on search and rescue
kcoldkchill 5 months ago
@kcoldkchill you have to move the debris to find the people smart one
misssamyboo 4 months ago
@misssamyboo soooooo....the people were buried under the tiny pieces of debris being collected by the line of people @ 2:50 ?
kcoldkchill 4 months ago
there is no plane hahaha
charro202 6 months ago
@charro202 And of course all the 136 witnesses who saw a plane crash into the building ...
MrMZaccone 6 months ago 2
yes, but your still using an analogy
dotcombatgames 8 months ago
so this just told me the Twin Towers and the Pentagon where attacked during 9/11
boo! boo terrorist!
TheMegaCommentkid 8 months ago
No signs of the wings/engine impacts...total proof not a plane..it was either a planted explosive..or a cruise missile.
gsxr750ia 11 months ago
@gsxr750ia it "takes a special kind of asshole" to believe stupid shit like you
dotcombatgames 10 months ago
@dotcombatgames i'm the stupid shit? i bet i've seen more crashes in REAL LIFE than you..wheres the plane engines asswipe? o yeah the amount of penetration of the building? <...you sound like the dumbshit. go play your nintendo idiot. leave the real work to us adults of exposing the cointepro .
gsxr750ia 10 months ago
@gsxr750ia "claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it." well that really takes "a special kind of asshole" , you sir are the child, and you are not living, you are dieing
dotcombatgames 10 months ago
@gsxr750ia lets use some commensense, this is the pentagon, this is a structure designed to withstand a nuclear blast, so why do you think there are no wing imprints? Concrete, possibly as thick as your skull
dotcombatgames 10 months ago
@dotcombatgames Bullet proof glass can withstand a bullet, But even when it does get shot, There is significant evidence of the bullet wound......
So the whole "the building broke the wing" story doesn't amuse me.. Building just don't eat airplanes..
Jordans03 8 months ago
@Jordans03 where in the hell do you see me mention bullet proof glass, stick to the subject, i was talking about concrete, bullletproof glass and concrete as an analogy is like butter and sand
dotcombatgames 8 months ago
@dotcombatgames Do you know what a metaphor is???? That's kind of what I just used to compare your "Structure designed to withstand a nuclear blast" ...... Dick head
Jordans03 8 months ago
@gsxr750ia i agree with you.i have watched tons of videos with tons of details to back up what you said man
KeySour 10 months ago
This is great for everyone to see and observe, then think and make up their own minds. Also, if I were a hijacker aiming for the Pentagon, expecting to be hotly pursued by armed jet fighters on 9/11, on a suicide mission - then this story makes no sense. I wouldn't circle around and come in low to hit the most unpopulated part of the building. I'd dive bomb the place straight down Kamikaze style.
mca592 1 year ago
no one talks about the people in the place....sad
sankalp4499 1 year ago
1:02
youngdrodeau 1 year ago
There were no bodies and virtually no debris when ValueJet 592 crashed in the Everglades in 1996. So it's plausible to have a 737 crash into the pentagon and not expect any thing to be left behind.
pwells9816 1 year ago
conspiracy theorists are retarded,"no bodies left cuz the god dang plane EXPLODED!!!,what part of an explosion do u not understand?it wasn't a car crash.o yea and how about the EYE WITNESSES that saw a jet liner?let me guess they were aliens working for the c.i.a?
lonewolf432 1 year ago
@lonewolf432 Of course. And that's why there's no FLIGHT RECORDER. Have you EVER IN HISTORY before 9/11 HEARD of ANY airline crash with absolutely NO BODIES? NO. Yet on 9/11 there were 4. And you've NEVER before 9/11 heard of DESTROYED flight recorders... yet, on 9/11 there were 4 (oh, but ONE passport survived...umm hmmm). And you've NEVER before 9/11 heard of ANY buildings being brought down by fires. Yet on 9/11 there were 3. umm hmmm
the cia works for the cia and that's bad enough.
piwacket33 1 year ago
It was a JSSAM missile. see other video. It looks like a small airplane.
TheGreatCorneliuski 1 year ago
dude you guys sound fucking retarded, both of you are probably in high school judging by your spelling. jesus christ. it was an unmanned, remote controlled drone aircraft. thats why they only found one turbine engine, and the 2 5-ton titanium and aluminum turbine jet engines didnt break the windows...
snillocekim 1 year ago
wahahahahahahah=D
pandadust1 2 years ago
I love the line of civilians in a line looking for the 100 tonnes of debris that didint exist. Not a shred of debris to be found because there was NO PLANE!
breando1 2 years ago
Yea there was the first victim of the Pentagon attack was a cab driver who got killed by a light pole clipped by the wing of the plane, your dumb.
wind767 2 years ago
Umm, yes DUMB indeed, as no one is as DUMB as YOU. The cab drivers name was Lloyd England and he wasnt killed you dumbfuck, he claims his cab was hit by a light pole.
Have a little think before you try and make smartass statements, retard.
breando1 2 years ago
But the missile theory is just as stupid, if their was a missile it would have to zig zag around light poles to pull them out of the ground, make enough force to push a roughly 10 ton generator back and hit the pentagon at ease. in one of the new videos it shows the generator including other sites you can find online.
warlord2080 2 years ago
I didnt claim that it was a missile, I dont know what hit the Pentagon because all the evidence was covered up or confiscated, all I know is that there is NO evidence for a 757 crash.
So your saying that an aluminium plane was able to take out 5 light poles, a generator and FYI a concrete wall? How do aluminium wings and fuselage withstand so many solid impacts and stay intact? How come the flight data recorder of the supposed plane show an altitude to high to take out the light poles?
breando1 2 years ago
Well i am claiming that Loose Change did not put the generator into the simulator because it would be another trace that it wasn't a missile. The flight data recorder showed that it was lower than that. Also you have to consider that the plane was going as fast as a .45 bullet and conparing George Bush's senior private jet that crashed is ridiculous. The plane did a 45 degree left bank and a 45 degree nose dive at the same time and it is proven in the flight data recorder.
warlord2080 2 years ago
Loose Change?? Dont tell me thats the only evidence that you follow?
If you have any evidence of a 757 crash I would like to see it. A damaged generator does not mean it was a 757 and as I said earlier, an aluminium airliner cannot fly at high speed at ground level nor can it withstand impacts with solid stationary objects, 5 light poles which would have sheered the wings off, an iron genertor would have made a mess as well as the concrete wall.
The flight data recorder is well documented.
breando1 2 years ago
In my theory is the plane went to a 45 left bank then the plane's left wing hit the generator and turn into a 45 nose dive. Now if the plane would have been straight on like the north tower's impact, it would have been a lot more damage to the pentagon. Also the generator was slanted towards the pentagon which means that it was something much more bigger than a missile let alone a global hawk.
warlord2080 2 years ago
Your ''theory''? Why do you need to theorise?! Your government should have provided conclusive findings of this supposed plane crash but instead have provided nothing but rhetoric and called it fact. The crime scene was covered up, 84 security cameras confiscated and not a single shred of peer viewed investigation data of the ''debris'' to support the physic defying fairy tale official story.
breando1 2 years ago
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warlord2080 2 years ago
The FBI has admitted to confiscating all the videos.
What pictures do you have that conclusively prove a 757 holding 70 odd passengers crashed?
I DID NOT ignore the generator info, in fact I highlighted it plus the light poles and a concrete wall that failed to even mention, how does a hollow aluminium plane withstand such impacts?
And finally, it was YOU who started this debate and I think its vitally important that you and others get your facts straight about a crime perpetrated on all of us.
breando1 2 years ago
warlord2080~ ''I have a question why do you people try to convert people into believing this like its a religion? ''
Thats great,..coming from a person who has listed on their homepage that they are a ''Conspiracy theorist debunker''. Seems like your trying to do some religious converting of your own, but I guess if it is hypocrisy that you are defending then you have to be a hypocrite yourself. Good job!
breando1 2 years ago
So I am coverting people to new age religion based on my topics? Ok i take back my criticism,but you have to provide evidence instead of doing questions based on speculation which is clearly not evidence in my opinion. Here is your source of your claim?
warlord2080 2 years ago
Oh, so now we are going to an ANIMATION as evidence? Either way for arguments sake, how does a 100 ton 757 fly just meters off the ground as shown in the cartoon? You'll find that ground effect would make it break up long before it reached its destination, how would it level out to ground level in a domesticated area also for such a large plane? How come large cable spools were untouched as they lay directly in front of the impact zone? Wheres the wings, tail section?
breando1 2 years ago
Lets begin by the ground effect which actually reduces drag and improves aircraft performance not plow huge furrows in the ground. And if being close to the ground had any potential to cause huge craters, why is Midway airport in Chicago surrounded by houses dboutDOTcom/Valor05/carnival_valor_v2005_200006DOTjpg Do you see any craters in the lawn at Midway? Anyway we should take this at the PM rather than on the video comments.
warlord2080 2 years ago
Yes, Midway is an AIRPORT!
The pentagon is NOT.
breando1 2 years ago
watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8&feature this is a animation case study of the crash which is also guided by this 911debunker*DOT*livejournal*DOT*com/2647*DOT*html. can you make your rebuttal against this?. In a cremetorium it takes 1800 C in 90 minutes to destory DNA and teeth, unfortunately the pentagon's fire didn't reach that even if it did, it certainly did not last for 90 minutes at that tempurature.~911mythsDOTcom/html/757_wreckage*DOT*html~ this is pictures from the Moussaoui trial.
warlord2080 2 years ago
Not sure whats your point about the fire except that maybe fire could not have destroyed the plane debris and 70 passenger bodies, so where are they?? Where is there luggage and seating? There should be tones of debris except there is NOTHING, only a couple of obscure photos that are neither verified of their authenticity or their origin, NOTHING.
breando1 2 years ago
much of the debris would be inside the building Furthermore, when a aluminum plane meets a concrete wall, the airframe shatters not disintigrates and produces a debris field like this ~911mythsDOTcom/assets/images/db_images/db_Pentagon_Debris_91DOTjpg~ note take a look at the background. If haven't take note of the Moussaoui trial it was the one that brought it to public view. ~911researchDOTwtc7DOTnet/pentagon/evidence/photos/humanremainsDOThtml~ this shows charred human remains in thisweb.
warlord2080 2 years ago
We are talking about 100 ton of airplane and passengers here. Its scientifically impossible for that matter to disappear. The official story even claims that it ''disintegrated''
The ''charred human remains'' you refer to are pentagon workers not passenger victims. There were 70 passengers supposedly, depending on which propaganda you read yet theres not a trace of them or their luggage or seating ect, this would have been a massive crash scene but there is NO evidence, no rush for survivors.
breando1 2 years ago
The official story didn't say anything about the plane disintegrated its mostly a strawman arguement. Again your pointing out 70 passengers yet you're assuming that the people who were taking the pictures, should also take the 70 passengers at the pentagon to prove that all 70 are present which is underminded evidence. Your Arguement based that the plane disintegrated~which i did show the debris field~and that there were no bodies at the pentagon.can you provide evidence that it was workers?
warlord2080 2 years ago
The official story states that there is a lack of debris because the plane disintegrated on impact, if that is not correct then explain to me where the wings and tail section of the plane are?
The photos are un-verified and un investigated by an independent body of peers. Plane parts can come from any type of aircraft and the small amount of photos available are not consistent with a 757 aircraft. Prove me wrong by posting the investigation data on them, if you can find any.
breando1 2 years ago
A 100 ton airliner carrying 70 passengers is going to leave an awful mess! Yet there's not a body in sight, no luggage, no seating, no ambulances scrambling for survivors, after a victim count of 70 PEOPLE???
breando1 2 years ago 2
please go to personal message instead of video comments. Your missing some detail within the photos. I do congraduate you on one of the photos that yes the 2nd picture person in the shirt and pant is a pentagon worker but, your missing something the worker is unscatched with no damage to the clothes he is wearing. Also notice the first picture the charred human, notice the tilt in head which is part of evidence as the person is in the seat. within a noticable sign of this it is clear that the..
warlord2080 2 years ago
Your missing a vital point with all of this, you are only speculating on everything your defending. You have no investigative data to rely on, no conclusive evidence to provide, not even clear and un-obscured photos to show. That's not your fault, but it shows that only rhetoric and propaganda was provided by official sources to substantiate the official story that they want us to believe. Don't you think its time to change your stance, open your mind and really see whats going on?
breando1 2 years ago
no further evidence i feel as though your motives is to elevate evidence and call it evidence fallacy as your rebuttal means nothing to me. Without your so called evidence or the what you think that caused the big hole you can not proceed in this debate, Your arguments or claim need evidence to coincide of what your talking about. I rest my case on this debate, it seems as though nothing is being push forward and my opponent is ignoring the evidence I presented to him.
warlord2080 2 years ago
You have presented no scientific evidence what so ever. I repeat, obscure photos and rhetoric are not evidence after such a monumental crime scene. If the official story was true you would be able to prove it to me easily because there would a mountain of investigation data to throw at me, instead you seem unable to answer the curly questions about the flip flop impossible physics that you have swallowed without any logical thought put into it. I'm not surprised you want to run.
breando1 2 years ago 2
supposed person wouldn't have been in the building at that time, because photo 2 shows it differently. If the conspirators tried to put clothes on the charred person there would be complications. No ambulances??imageenvisionDOTcom/md/0003-0702-2522-3760DOTjpg I don't think there were any survivors. Your luggage claim is ridiculous if you can show me a luggage that is fire proof I might coincide.
warlord2080 2 years ago
Again, we are talking (count them slowly) 70, I said SEVENTY, passengers in a moving aluminium shell that hit a static concrete building. Its amusing how defenders of the official farcical story play flip flop physics, ie the plane didnt leave a hole big enough to encompass the wings because it was only aluminium yet almost in same breath they claim all the plane, its engines and contents buried it self thru a16 ft hole all the way to c ring! So which one of these do you subscribe to then?
breando1 2 years ago 2
new york hit it and hard and they hit new york back
richmondpalmbay62 2 years ago