can't really check the flop if you have aces, but you can't fold to a raise either after how much he bet out. you're probably going to be winning more often than losing in this spot in the long run, so folding after you put a big portion of you're stack in wouldn't make sense. most pros playing those stakes will shove with a wide range of hands there
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can't make a decision off of one hand, but if you look at just the flop, a person holding a queen is very likely in this situation. You are only going to be raised all in by AA, KK, QQQ, straight flush draw, 101010, maybe JJ or 10s with ace kicker. A bluff here is unlikely. . Check here and fold to any substantial bet. Betting out of position on a short stack is trouble. They are likely to have a premium hand and a lot of cards help here. It's very hard to fold aces, but the flop sucks here.
Im think theres a good % of the time I can get away here, I dont like giving action i like getting action myself(small ball poker), yes the player with the qk could have had alot of other hands pockets 99, kk, jj, at suited maybe even a kj suited, aq, i play very tight on pared boards myself, I wouldnt have open for 3700 probabley more like 1800 thats a info bet to find out where your at if someone pushes then you can get away from it
@Hanamichi6666 It wasn't a donk call, Aces only had to call a small % of their stack to see the remaining cards. If they both had deep stacks then it would be a donk call.
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The huge bet was disguised as a bluff. When you got the nuts you never bet heavy into it, you slow play them. 99% of situations the guy with aces is right, the guy with the queens just played it extremely smart.
@bigappetite9 your full of shit... loads of people would re-raise right there to stop people drawing, and to disguise it as a bluff.
plus, people that slow play every hand are so easy to read... he was never gonna call for that percentage of his stack, otherwise angelica would automatically put him on at least a queen, if not a full house.
90% it would be a call, depending on who the player was and how tight or what he plays
it was strange for him to go all in, but i wouldnt be suprised if he had a queen. because the queen was the only thing beating him, and i have a shot against Kj, i would definitely call.
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Easy fold? No way. The shove could have easily been a semi-bluff with the flush draw. Shoving over the top here shortstacked with a draw is a play that would be made almost 100%.
What Ch0lle is saying isnt that she was pot commited, but rather with what is basically a min raise, she's basically getting the odds, even if she's beat to call at that point.
@Cybralisk - it's not about what he had left.... he was getting 2-1 on his call, so he only needed a 33% chance of winning to make the call, maybe he put the guy on a draw which gave him the right odds to make the call. Actually he was crushed and dead to 2 outs since the straight gave the other guy a full house.
@Ch0lle He was not pot committed with the c-bet. And that is what happens when you make a pot sized c-bet. You can find out the same information with a 3/4 pot c-bet as you could with a full pot c-bet.
look one think you made a pot size bet i see ....1700$ thats a good bet and the correct bet with two aces then that was her turn and decided to go all in so she was not scared with your bet ,why?? cause she got the queen and she decided to go all in if you was in a draw you think she would go all in with just a draw??? you was beat that was clear sincerely i wouldnt call that in a cash game in a tournament yes.
A. Brandon Adams is in position and instantly calls the raise preflop....sign of a big hand...
B. After the flop... the fold can be made because....HE IS NOT POT COMMITTED....still has more money left over than was invested in the hand...
You can assume that Brandon has a big hand, plus the re-raise all in confirms this.....The only hands you are really ahead of are bluffs and pocket pairs other than 10's or Q's.... you dont really beat much, and should fold
that's tougher than most people would think. i play professionally and when i changed the money to the stakes i play, i would probably call. for the game brandon is short stacked. i would call. obviously 6 grand is more than most people would play but for the limits i would call.
anyway he played it he was going broke. besides going all in pre flop.lol. that queen on the turn was such a dirty card... k Q is the best hand 2 dirty some1 with....props 2 king queen
not that great, what happens when u cold call & then flop top pair, & villain is betting out and u call & lose showdown only to find out he had u dominated with AK/ AQ? how u would you feel about KQ then?
I don't think you even watched the hand. She was the raiser with A's and got called how can she re-pop pre-flop, second the reason someone would lead out on that flop is because of the two draws and very possible hands in a pre-flop raise AK AJ and maybe even of hearts.
Let's assume he did not lead out and checked and the Queens also checked. After the third Queen hits he is looking at a FH with Aces. The only hand he loses to at that point is quads. He will call any bet there without hesitation.
This I completely agree with to a point. However, Queens also want to out muscle any straight flush draws, and a check is unlikely, but possible. Queens would go all in to take the point to just take in the easy money. A bet isn't strong enough here to do that.
lol, just saw that this hand happened over two years ago! Online poker is a completely different game now than it was back then, so in actuality, back in 07' this hand could actually be weighted more towards a fold than I had previously stated... Now-adays, it's probably a fist-pump snap.
Of course, this is just one hand out of the hundreds I presume were played, and the dynamics may have been right to flat KQ in position. One thing is for sure tho, looking for excuses to fold AA (with short relative stacks) is not going to win you da moniez in the longrun- ManchVegasPwn
What is more important in NLHE is exploiting your opponents weaknesses, and maximizing value with your big hands, while trying to minimize your losses w/ your weaker hands. It could arguably be a bigger "leak" for Brandon Adams to flat nearly 10% of his stack pre flop with against a pot raise, than it was for the AA stack off.
So true. Cold calling KQo out of position would be a big mistake... On the button however, depending on reads on oppenent, i might go with it but could still be questionable, being dominated sucks & more often than not when you flat with KQ you run into AK/AQ
Though, it is not a good spot for AA, I am fairily certain the hand was played optimally. Donks who are saying "fold/what a bad call!" are the types of players who are missing value from medium strength hands, and are overplaying too often, or slowplaying in spots where they could win a bigger pot by betting. Although I do think in oder to be a great poker player, you must be disciplined and make good laydowns, this is not an example of one of them.
what you donks fail to realize is that Brandon Adams is started the hand with just under 40 BBs. After the flop, with 4x effective behind what is already in the pot, bet/folding AA would be simply atrocious. First of all, we can assume Brandom Adams could have flatted pre flop w/ KK/AK/AQ/AJ/KQ/KJ/QQ/JJ/TT/99/88. Though he is not going to shove over the lead on the flop with all of these hands, a good % of his range consists of drawing hands (flush draw str8 draw) that AA is ahead of.
What people fail to realize is that a paired board on the flop cuts the likelihood that your opponent connected in half.
On a standard flop, there are 3 different cards, so there are 9 cards in the deck that can connect (3 more of each of the cards).
On a paired flop (like this one), there are only 5 cards that connect: 2 queens and 3 tens. Since aces are obviously higher than the 10, that makes the call even easier because aces up beats queens up.
yeah i could rule 1 in my book is never slow play aces they never raise enough b4 the flop dumb ass plus after the flop you bet then they raise well i know i was fooked i would of folded
You guys have never played high stakes poker and neither have I, these players go into sicko levels of thinking in order to make the decisions they do. You see how long it took Brandon Adams to shove his trips? He might have been trying to make it look like a bluff, or making it look like he is trying to make it look like a bluff (but actually a value bet) and therefore lead the opponent to deduce that he actually was bluffing
@HariboStewieyes he was just thinking about shoving right now or calling and trying to get more money out of him. He could of been scared of 10 10 or AQ but he wouldn't of folded trips queens, just wanted to get paid off. And no he wasn't trying to make it look like a bluff lol.
@HariboStewieyes LOL! hes just thinking about whether flatting the raise makes any sense which he decides doesnt. he probably balances his range with some calls but mostly raises in this spot. I think with his stack size though balancing probably goes out the window and he shoves 99%. AA has to call- too many semi bluffing hands and hands like 10-x that are possible. Especially considering this is a 6 max a cutoff open.
@HariboStewieyes Wow such moron thinking. It was a good call, bet was only 2x the amount he raised. Those guys play with 300$ bbs man! They don't care about 6k$ ...
@HariboStewieyes - Taking a long time to shove doesn't happen just at high stakes tables, it happens at every table where the players have played more then 1000 hands in their life regardless of the stakes.
why? if you have an overpair but the board pairs, and an opponet bets strongly at you, it's all about gauging them as a player and whether you want to give them credit for having the queen, if they are a half decent player that's an easy laydown to make, one that hurts a little, but still easy to make
Thank you for my analysis, but now it is time for my logic. Unless the player is extremely tight, most good players are going to call. The odds of flopping trips are extremely agaisnt the player, and unless the player is very tight, then there is no reason to fold aces. Again it is much easier to say that someone could easily fold that when they are not involved in the hand.
unless the player betting at you is very loose, you should be throwing away that hand coz its probably not going to be good. the reason people get too attached to AA is the hype factor of the best starting hand in poker
I totally disagree. Most times if you fold aces on a paired hand you are folding the best hand, and if you do this often you are limiting your winnings. I would never fold aces on a paired board unless I have an elite read on a tight tight player.
I think it's a good call. Obviously aces aren't always good, but there was a high chance his opponent was also playing a pocket pair such as jacks or kings.
Ive been beat with AA a billion times no big thing, Ive also cooked plenty pocket Aces with peice of shit hands also.
Its just poker
Its not like the Gus/Negreanu hand where gus hit the Case 5 to beat DN's 666. That was a bad beat. 1 out. with plenty of action before the cooler card hit.
everytime i have aces, i either fold or lose, aces is not such an amazing hand, so its not hard to fold aces, if its hard for u to do so, gotta learn to, cuz itll help u in the future
if you think about aces on a totally different level like me , you'll win chips reguardless. pre-flop raise 6-7 times the blind? or just get it in and hope you win. cuuz people wont be calling you in high stakes with king queen off pre-flop if u push or raise 6-7 times. so its your own fault. so many people cant realize they are not playing the cards right.
It depends on the situation. Sometimes there's no other choice than fold the aces, even though it sucks. But I would never fold AA pre-flop, that's just stupid!
Considering Brandon just called the bet preflop, and then pushed all in after the flop, it is safe to say that he most likely has the queen. He is also a very tight player and doesn't get involved in too many pots so the chance that he's bluffing diminishes.
Yes I wud fold AA in that situation with that flop esp. if I hadn't been at the table long.
But if u been watching the pattern of play and ur at least 80% sure he dont have a better hand, then you got the 2-outer on the 20% of the time ur wrong, ur the favourite when he's drawing, and ur like 97% favourite vs the 20% of the time it's a stone-cold bluff. Which adds up to good value. Otherwise fold 'em and sit out a few if u need to. If ur still pissed about it after that u shudnt b be playing.
its actually a dangerous and terrible flop for an AA, first u know that the other player wud call only if he had at least a J high card, and seeing two Q or two K in the flop is just horendous. Wat i will do there if im the first to act is to check.. if he bets big i know im in trouble, if he checks then maybe he didnt flop the Q, then seeing the next flop watever it is, i will immediately try to bet a moderate amount of cash and see if he calls, if he calls then maybe my AA is in trouble..
Yup... you can loose with AA and win with 2 and 7... If you have o good hand it doesn't mean you WILL win. It means that it's bigger possibility of winning than with other hand... everything can happen after flop!
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Both players made good calls. QQQ was short stacked, and for the amount of the all-in, you would almost have to call with any pair. After all, it is impossible to turn two pair into a full house if you fold before the turn.
Yeah I have to agree with the comment below me. It depends on how the other guy was playing, but with the possibility of trips AND a flush draw I probably wouldn't call an all in.
Although if you look at the chip counts, it didn't really hurt AA to call that much, and they probably assumed the other guy was trying to catch a flush to get back in the game.
easy fold. aa is just one par. if hes been bluffin alot maybe call, but with that flop and hes been playin soft fold no prob, should have bet alot more preflop thats what happins whem try to trap on fulltilt with aa.
So, I've bet out on the flop, bet the pot, and gotten a shove in for a response. run through the range of hands, realize this is brandon adams, a super tight player, realize i could have figured out he has a queen for like 8-900, kick myself, swear under my breath, and fold.
first, the screen is really blurry so it's a little hard to tell what the bets were. but doing my best, i'll go along and analyze, fwiw.
looks like a 100-200 table, AA raises to 700 utg after it gets folded to her(him). pretty standard. button calls, blinds fold. flop comes QQ10, two hearts. AA bets pot and gets an all in in response. here's what would go through my head (see next response)
too much emphasis on fucking pot odds ... if you're beat, you're beat ... get out of the hand unless you are definitely priced in ... such an easy fold for aces in that situation ... $5000 more to call in a $5000 pot ... you'd better believe brandon adams has trips there, and you should fold ... tons of people can't get away from top pair or overpairs
lol themunster2, you're the idiot and that's why you would have lost 5 extra grand on that hand ... you should never play poker seriously for lots of money cuz you're just going to lose all of it u donk
of course you don't fold pocket aces every time a Q - Q - 10 flop or one like it hits the board ... in this case the person should have because Brandon Adams knew he/she was strong because of the pot-raise pre-flop ... when he goes all in, you better believe he has something so he clearly doesn't mind a call ... of course it's a judgement call when you're determining if someone is bluffing .. in this particular case, the person made a bad call; not horrible, but bad
imo this coulda been a tough fold. unlikely she has a Q and shoves, but then again there was a lot of draws so it was a vulnerable set of Qs, but had that been a loose player, they could've easily just had two hearts or KJ, or if they were crazy K9. Tough to say yes or no I could or couldn't fold it here because I wasn't in that game against that player in that situation.
no way u can fold after making such a huge flop bet
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It doesn't even matter whether hes pot commited or not hes still ahead of Brandons range here with all the draws
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can't really check the flop if you have aces, but you can't fold to a raise either after how much he bet out. you're probably going to be winning more often than losing in this spot in the long run, so folding after you put a big portion of you're stack in wouldn't make sense. most pros playing those stakes will shove with a wide range of hands there
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can't make a decision off of one hand, but if you look at just the flop, a person holding a queen is very likely in this situation. You are only going to be raised all in by AA, KK, QQQ, straight flush draw, 101010, maybe JJ or 10s with ace kicker. A bluff here is unlikely. . Check here and fold to any substantial bet. Betting out of position on a short stack is trouble. They are likely to have a premium hand and a lot of cards help here. It's very hard to fold aces, but the flop sucks here.
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antiirony 1 year ago
Im think theres a good % of the time I can get away here, I dont like giving action i like getting action myself(small ball poker), yes the player with the qk could have had alot of other hands pockets 99, kk, jj, at suited maybe even a kj suited, aq, i play very tight on pared boards myself, I wouldnt have open for 3700 probabley more like 1800 thats a info bet to find out where your at if someone pushes then you can get away from it
scottvfly 1 year ago
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Austin101123 1 year ago
yes i would fold immediately. obv he has a queen and wouldnt bluff a min raise without a queen himself. easy laydown with aces.
brocktherock68 1 year ago
i can fold this... aa played like a total donk
Hanamichi6666 1 year ago
@Hanamichi6666 It wasn't a donk call, Aces only had to call a small % of their stack to see the remaining cards. If they both had deep stacks then it would be a donk call.
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The huge bet was disguised as a bluff. When you got the nuts you never bet heavy into it, you slow play them. 99% of situations the guy with aces is right, the guy with the queens just played it extremely smart.
bigappetite9 1 year ago
@bigappetite9 your full of shit... loads of people would re-raise right there to stop people drawing, and to disguise it as a bluff.
plus, people that slow play every hand are so easy to read... he was never gonna call for that percentage of his stack, otherwise angelica would automatically put him on at least a queen, if not a full house.
your an idiot
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normenac 1 year ago
heres the deal
it not "pot commited" or anything
90% it would be a call, depending on who the player was and how tight or what he plays
it was strange for him to go all in, but i wouldnt be suprised if he had a queen. because the queen was the only thing beating him, and i have a shot against Kj, i would definitely call.
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the guy with aa had him covered and the guy who said he committed himself with the c-bet is entirely right.
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I would have got away from it pre flop
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The player with AA was already comitted by his c-bet. Obviously he can't fold for an all in that's effectively a min-raise.
Ch0lle 2 years ago 13
@Ch0lle are you joking? the guy with AA was in no way pot commited, he only put 2,400 in and he had 17k left, easy fold
Cybralisk 2 years ago
Easy fold? No way. The shove could have easily been a semi-bluff with the flush draw. Shoving over the top here shortstacked with a draw is a play that would be made almost 100%.
What Ch0lle is saying isnt that she was pot commited, but rather with what is basically a min raise, she's basically getting the odds, even if she's beat to call at that point.
AngelsOnBikes 2 years ago
rofl
Yamakashi1 2 years ago
u obviously never played poker .. .ever
Yamakashi1 2 years ago
@Cybralisk LOL at saying he had 17k left idiot
ouskaer 2 years ago
@Cybralisk - it's not about what he had left.... he was getting 2-1 on his call, so he only needed a 33% chance of winning to make the call, maybe he put the guy on a draw which gave him the right odds to make the call. Actually he was crushed and dead to 2 outs since the straight gave the other guy a full house.
HueyLewisRocks 2 years ago
@Ch0lle He was not pot committed with the c-bet. And that is what happens when you make a pot sized c-bet. You can find out the same information with a 3/4 pot c-bet as you could with a full pot c-bet.
martysparty2042 7 months ago
I would have folded those AA faster than you can say the nuts
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Yamakashi1 2 years ago
look one think you made a pot size bet i see ....1700$ thats a good bet and the correct bet with two aces then that was her turn and decided to go all in so she was not scared with your bet ,why?? cause she got the queen and she decided to go all in if you was in a draw you think she would go all in with just a draw??? you was beat that was clear sincerely i wouldnt call that in a cash game in a tournament yes.
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toooonnii 2 years ago
donks fooking check the flop
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AxelProduction 2 years ago
Two things to point out here....
A. Brandon Adams is in position and instantly calls the raise preflop....sign of a big hand...
B. After the flop... the fold can be made because....HE IS NOT POT COMMITTED....still has more money left over than was invested in the hand...
You can assume that Brandon has a big hand, plus the re-raise all in confirms this.....The only hands you are really ahead of are bluffs and pocket pairs other than 10's or Q's.... you dont really beat much, and should fold
anewbornyak 2 years ago
after the flop, i def think you can fold this.....
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onlinepokerrevealed 2 years ago
that's tougher than most people would think. i play professionally and when i changed the money to the stakes i play, i would probably call. for the game brandon is short stacked. i would call. obviously 6 grand is more than most people would play but for the limits i would call.
cardcoursecom 2 years ago
brandon adams is tight player........
Libbatarian 2 years ago
lol @ all the donkey super stars in this page writing "easy fold"
jazzkarloz 2 years ago
i folt AA in this config
NINIO98 2 years ago
Pot committed
kikolovex3 2 years ago
easy fold...
Drucio 2 years ago
easy fold!
sasanvancouver 2 years ago
nahh thats just typical for fulltilt, absolute poker, and sportsbook. Online poker=joke
Gam3Kill3r 2 years ago
PKR is actually better then that. :)
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fradlands 2 years ago
anyway he played it he was going broke. besides going all in pre flop.lol. that queen on the turn was such a dirty card... k Q is the best hand 2 dirty some1 with....props 2 king queen
DarkoDrmanac16 2 years ago
not that great, what happens when u cold call & then flop top pair, & villain is betting out and u call & lose showdown only to find out he had u dominated with AK/ AQ? how u would you feel about KQ then?
Prophilla 2 years ago
I don't think you even watched the hand. She was the raiser with A's and got called how can she re-pop pre-flop, second the reason someone would lead out on that flop is because of the two draws and very possible hands in a pre-flop raise AK AJ and maybe even of hearts.
Tamada07 2 years ago
Why is the video called "could you fold this?"???
The AA made the move, so clearly they can't fold it :-S
Maybe if they checked and the KQ pushed, they could lay it down, but why ask if they could fold it when they're the one making the move :-S
TheAcydikeen 2 years ago
Let's assume he did not lead out and checked and the Queens also checked. After the third Queen hits he is looking at a FH with Aces. The only hand he loses to at that point is quads. He will call any bet there without hesitation.
That's poker.
kingcityguru 2 years ago 2
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This I completely agree with to a point. However, Queens also want to out muscle any straight flush draws, and a check is unlikely, but possible. Queens would go all in to take the point to just take in the easy money. A bet isn't strong enough here to do that.
MarktheSharkSheehan 1 year ago
lol, just saw that this hand happened over two years ago! Online poker is a completely different game now than it was back then, so in actuality, back in 07' this hand could actually be weighted more towards a fold than I had previously stated... Now-adays, it's probably a fist-pump snap.
Bo0sh79 2 years ago
Of course, this is just one hand out of the hundreds I presume were played, and the dynamics may have been right to flat KQ in position. One thing is for sure tho, looking for excuses to fold AA (with short relative stacks) is not going to win you da moniez in the longrun- ManchVegasPwn
Bo0sh79 2 years ago
What is more important in NLHE is exploiting your opponents weaknesses, and maximizing value with your big hands, while trying to minimize your losses w/ your weaker hands. It could arguably be a bigger "leak" for Brandon Adams to flat nearly 10% of his stack pre flop with against a pot raise, than it was for the AA stack off.
Bo0sh79 2 years ago
So true. Cold calling KQo out of position would be a big mistake... On the button however, depending on reads on oppenent, i might go with it but could still be questionable, being dominated sucks & more often than not when you flat with KQ you run into AK/AQ
Prophilla 2 years ago
Though, it is not a good spot for AA, I am fairily certain the hand was played optimally. Donks who are saying "fold/what a bad call!" are the types of players who are missing value from medium strength hands, and are overplaying too often, or slowplaying in spots where they could win a bigger pot by betting. Although I do think in oder to be a great poker player, you must be disciplined and make good laydowns, this is not an example of one of them.
Bo0sh79 2 years ago
what you donks fail to realize is that Brandon Adams is started the hand with just under 40 BBs. After the flop, with 4x effective behind what is already in the pot, bet/folding AA would be simply atrocious. First of all, we can assume Brandom Adams could have flatted pre flop w/ KK/AK/AQ/AJ/KQ/KJ/QQ/JJ/TT/99/88. Though he is not going to shove over the lead on the flop with all of these hands, a good % of his range consists of drawing hands (flush draw str8 draw) that AA is ahead of.
Bo0sh79 2 years ago
What people fail to realize is that a paired board on the flop cuts the likelihood that your opponent connected in half.
On a standard flop, there are 3 different cards, so there are 9 cards in the deck that can connect (3 more of each of the cards).
On a paired flop (like this one), there are only 5 cards that connect: 2 queens and 3 tens. Since aces are obviously higher than the 10, that makes the call even easier because aces up beats queens up.
Calling was the correct move.
thedunraven 2 years ago
yeah i could rule 1 in my book is never slow play aces they never raise enough b4 the flop dumb ass plus after the flop you bet then they raise well i know i was fooked i would of folded
dozn01 2 years ago
i've got 4 of kind kings and four of a kind aces twice in 1 day :)
dancehalldj07 2 years ago
You guys have never played high stakes poker and neither have I, these players go into sicko levels of thinking in order to make the decisions they do. You see how long it took Brandon Adams to shove his trips? He might have been trying to make it look like a bluff, or making it look like he is trying to make it look like a bluff (but actually a value bet) and therefore lead the opponent to deduce that he actually was bluffing
HariboStewieyes 2 years ago 13
Well I can not afford high stakes poker, but I do what u said and lot more at my online or live poker sessions.
cariocavip 2 years ago
@HariboStewieyes You're a moron. Please stop talking about poker.
areufkingkiddingme 1 year ago
@HariboStewieyes he was just thinking about shoving right now or calling and trying to get more money out of him. He could of been scared of 10 10 or AQ but he wouldn't of folded trips queens, just wanted to get paid off. And no he wasn't trying to make it look like a bluff lol.
TacoMaster07 1 year ago
@HariboStewieyes LOL! hes just thinking about whether flatting the raise makes any sense which he decides doesnt. he probably balances his range with some calls but mostly raises in this spot. I think with his stack size though balancing probably goes out the window and he shoves 99%. AA has to call- too many semi bluffing hands and hands like 10-x that are possible. Especially considering this is a 6 max a cutoff open.
SurvivingTheHorizon 1 year ago
@HariboStewieyes whoa that is a sick level
doognadoshi 1 year ago
@HariboStewieyes Wow such moron thinking. It was a good call, bet was only 2x the amount he raised. Those guys play with 300$ bbs man! They don't care about 6k$ ...
KirKanu 1 year ago
@HariboStewieyes - Taking a long time to shove doesn't happen just at high stakes tables, it happens at every table where the players have played more then 1000 hands in their life regardless of the stakes.
Run4God33 11 months ago
how go allin when u cant see ur own cards
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InstantRakeback 2 years ago
I bet 99% of these people saying they would of folded aces in that spot would of called.
DanSaw23 2 years ago
wrong
jessjess62590 2 years ago
Wrong? It is so much easier when you aren't playing to make the miracle fold...Having aces on a paired board is REALLY good.
DanSaw23 2 years ago
why? if you have an overpair but the board pairs, and an opponet bets strongly at you, it's all about gauging them as a player and whether you want to give them credit for having the queen, if they are a half decent player that's an easy laydown to make, one that hurts a little, but still easy to make
airal3rt 2 years ago
Thank you for my analysis, but now it is time for my logic. Unless the player is extremely tight, most good players are going to call. The odds of flopping trips are extremely agaisnt the player, and unless the player is very tight, then there is no reason to fold aces. Again it is much easier to say that someone could easily fold that when they are not involved in the hand.
DanSaw23 2 years ago
unless the player betting at you is very loose, you should be throwing away that hand coz its probably not going to be good. the reason people get too attached to AA is the hype factor of the best starting hand in poker
airal3rt 2 years ago
I totally disagree. Most times if you fold aces on a paired hand you are folding the best hand, and if you do this often you are limiting your winnings. I would never fold aces on a paired board unless I have an elite read on a tight tight player.
DanSaw23 2 years ago 2
Paired board*
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dibeling 2 years ago
wlcome 2 online poker you dickheads! hahahaha
PokerMashine 2 years ago
snap call with the aces?, i guess he was shovin in to make it look like he was on a draw?
culchy1971 2 years ago
boring
wodka07091988 2 years ago
I think it's a good call. Obviously aces aren't always good, but there was a high chance his opponent was also playing a pocket pair such as jacks or kings.
dyslexichobo 2 years ago
Not a bad beat at all. Aces are way over rated and are only the best hand preflop. Dont be afraid to let them go.
Patricktc21 2 years ago
nice bad beat
TeexaYang 2 years ago
that's not a bad beat. thats poker. bad beats only count if the underdog WHEN THE MONEY WAS PUT IT IN THE POT ends up winning the hand
HomeReality 2 years ago
TOTALLY AGREE
Ive been beat with AA a billion times no big thing, Ive also cooked plenty pocket Aces with peice of shit hands also.
Its just poker
Its not like the Gus/Negreanu hand where gus hit the Case 5 to beat DN's 666. That was a bad beat. 1 out. with plenty of action before the cooler card hit.
nobodymm 2 years ago
It's not a bad beat, it would have been a bad beat if aces came on turn or river and AA won
B0bbleG0m 2 years ago
of course, aces, easy fold
Thamez87 2 years ago 2
so easy to fold on the flop
kurakikaze 2 years ago
everytime i have aces, i either fold or lose, aces is not such an amazing hand, so its not hard to fold aces, if its hard for u to do so, gotta learn to, cuz itll help u in the future
bboystailfish 2 years ago
does that say 1k/2k?
tlamb43 2 years ago
not on the flop.
KwNJn1 2 years ago
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sure i could, just a few days ago i decided to fold AK on a K62 board simply from a read on the other player. He had trip 2s.
SecureWebDev 2 years ago
if you think about aces on a totally different level like me , you'll win chips reguardless. pre-flop raise 6-7 times the blind? or just get it in and hope you win. cuuz people wont be calling you in high stakes with king queen off pre-flop if u push or raise 6-7 times. so its your own fault. so many people cant realize they are not playing the cards right.
TrueCanadian420 2 years ago
It depends on the situation. Sometimes there's no other choice than fold the aces, even though it sucks. But I would never fold AA pre-flop, that's just stupid!
TheHuentel 2 years ago 3
To be honest it not a hard fold at all.
Considering Brandon just called the bet preflop, and then pushed all in after the flop, it is safe to say that he most likely has the queen. He is also a very tight player and doesn't get involved in too many pots so the chance that he's bluffing diminishes.
HomeReality 2 years ago 2
AA is good but is not perfect you can have a AA end the other play to pars like 22 and 33 and you lose... AA is good but is overrated -.-
LuisSilvaTV 2 years ago 2
by that logic then everyhand is overrated...
iBGalaxy 2 years ago
Yes I wud fold AA in that situation with that flop esp. if I hadn't been at the table long.
But if u been watching the pattern of play and ur at least 80% sure he dont have a better hand, then you got the 2-outer on the 20% of the time ur wrong, ur the favourite when he's drawing, and ur like 97% favourite vs the 20% of the time it's a stone-cold bluff. Which adds up to good value. Otherwise fold 'em and sit out a few if u need to. If ur still pissed about it after that u shudnt b be playing.
monkeymandoomteller 2 years ago
its actually a dangerous and terrible flop for an AA, first u know that the other player wud call only if he had at least a J high card, and seeing two Q or two K in the flop is just horendous. Wat i will do there if im the first to act is to check.. if he bets big i know im in trouble, if he checks then maybe he didnt flop the Q, then seeing the next flop watever it is, i will immediately try to bet a moderate amount of cash and see if he calls, if he calls then maybe my AA is in trouble..
kionkobe 2 years ago
LMao, AA is so overrated with amateurs...
OnePiece4adje 2 years ago
Yup... you can loose with AA and win with 2 and 7... If you have o good hand it doesn't mean you WILL win. It means that it's bigger possibility of winning than with other hand... everything can happen after flop!
maniatm 2 years ago
yes i would
persian0pesar 2 years ago
yes u can!
Creamsen1o1 2 years ago
He's playing KJ, AT, AJ, JJ, KK, AK, etc the same way. Anyone folding to the re-raise getting over 3:1 on the call is LOLBAD.
JakeJeck 2 years ago 2
calling $5000 for a $10000 pot is 3:1. AWESOME>
HomeReality 2 years ago
it's 1:2 OMFG
dabudick 2 years ago
lol ya i must have been drunk or somethin when i wrote that. i meant 1 in 3 not 3:1
you are right he is getting 2:1
HomeReality 2 years ago
god dammit it's 1:2
rtfm
dabudick 2 years ago
so many pros on here wow
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PartyGamingPlc 2 years ago
Both players made good calls. QQQ was short stacked, and for the amount of the all-in, you would almost have to call with any pair. After all, it is impossible to turn two pair into a full house if you fold before the turn.
CarlLewenski 2 years ago
Yeah I have to agree with the comment below me. It depends on how the other guy was playing, but with the possibility of trips AND a flush draw I probably wouldn't call an all in.
Although if you look at the chip counts, it didn't really hurt AA to call that much, and they probably assumed the other guy was trying to catch a flush to get back in the game.
kaje01 2 years ago
easy fold. aa is just one par. if hes been bluffin alot maybe call, but with that flop and hes been playin soft fold no prob, should have bet alot more preflop thats what happins whem try to trap on fulltilt with aa.
lbsone 2 years ago
So, I've bet out on the flop, bet the pot, and gotten a shove in for a response. run through the range of hands, realize this is brandon adams, a super tight player, realize i could have figured out he has a queen for like 8-900, kick myself, swear under my breath, and fold.
2mauthnercells 2 years ago
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couple of things about this hand...
first, the screen is really blurry so it's a little hard to tell what the bets were. but doing my best, i'll go along and analyze, fwiw.
looks like a 100-200 table, AA raises to 700 utg after it gets folded to her(him). pretty standard. button calls, blinds fold. flop comes QQ10, two hearts. AA bets pot and gets an all in in response. here's what would go through my head (see next response)
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titinho78 2 years ago
I agree with 10crow, but even if it was a dry board I couldn't have folded the Aces.
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torads51 2 years ago
too much emphasis on fucking pot odds ... if you're beat, you're beat ... get out of the hand unless you are definitely priced in ... such an easy fold for aces in that situation ... $5000 more to call in a $5000 pot ... you'd better believe brandon adams has trips there, and you should fold ... tons of people can't get away from top pair or overpairs
altinator 2 years ago
ur an idiot i wud love u play u if u fold aces there
themunster2 2 years ago
lol themunster2, you're the idiot and that's why you would have lost 5 extra grand on that hand ... you should never play poker seriously for lots of money cuz you're just going to lose all of it u donk
altinator 2 years ago
if u fold pocket aces in that situation in the long run u will lose money
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altinator 2 years ago
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of course you don't fold pocket aces every time a Q - Q - 10 flop or one like it hits the board ... in this case the person should have because Brandon Adams knew he/she was strong because of the pot-raise pre-flop ... when he goes all in, you better believe he has something so he clearly doesn't mind a call ... of course it's a judgement call when you're determining if someone is bluffing .. in this particular case, the person made a bad call; not horrible, but bad
altinator 2 years ago
not really dude...u crapped big one on the leg there....seriously l2p man.
leirabeach 2 years ago
No you wouldn't theres 2 fucking qs on the board... i would of folded tbh!
maxbibby1987 2 years ago
that was such a draw heavy board that aces need to call, if it was something like Q-Q-7 rainbow then you could make an argument for folding aces.
10crow 2 years ago
the guys saying that they would fold in that situation is the guys i want to play against.
Blaeh1 2 years ago
Yes.
StoneRobiStone 2 years ago
yes i could fold aces in that situation.
voznow7 2 years ago
why should you? look at these pot odds!
Shonzon 2 years ago
LOL I usually get dealt KK bet all in and the one guy that has AA calls me.
wbowens82 2 years ago
imo this coulda been a tough fold. unlikely she has a Q and shoves, but then again there was a lot of draws so it was a vulnerable set of Qs, but had that been a loose player, they could've easily just had two hearts or KJ, or if they were crazy K9. Tough to say yes or no I could or couldn't fold it here because I wasn't in that game against that player in that situation.
guppy4527 2 years ago
yes of course you can, just click on the fold button and you will fold
popeye135 2 years ago 2
could you fold AA thereaments? Is that what your asking?
First of all, don't DONK bet lead out on that flop, ever.... that'll solve your problemaments imo.
IH8WRONGPPL 2 years ago
Wasn't a DONK bet dumbass. It was a continuation bet (aka C-bet, not sure if you knew that). Like Dadge said, you must H8URSELF
guppy4527 2 years ago