First time I ve heard or seen this; what was I doing in 1997? Its fantastic music and I especially like Mick`s expression at 5.27, it looks like he is happy with all he has done up to that point.
Wonderful musicanship... despite Mick's vocals! Seriously, he is missed so much... such talent. Every time I hear his playing, it's so sad that there will be no more; never occured to me the last time I saw them live that would be the last. Awesome drumming; keys tasetful and understated as always. Love the displacements.
Sheer brilliance and i quite like the intonations of his voice,as being eastern origin,their sense of scale and melody glides between "western scales".
On a more serious note,i hope we don't lose this talented human being any time soon,he has much left to reach musically!
@moodyb You can go to nightporter.co.uk/pages/bass_auction.html to learn about a bass auction with the proceeds going to the Mick Karn Appeal to help this great bassist and his family during his recent time of need fighting cancer.
In Karn's autobiography you find out Sylvian receives nearly all the royalties for all the Japan work. I still cant get over that... Im now an Ex-David Sylvian fan.
@Xtr41 - Why? He wrote the songs so he gets the royalties. That's how it works. The others will get royalties if their name is on there in writing credits.
typical split is lyricist 50% - writers of the music the other 50%. Sylvian took nearly all of it. The other member wrote some incredibly unique music and got next to nothing for it.
Sylvian will have wrote the melodies as well as the lyrics, and as a guitarist and keyboard player will have got part of the music share too. Didn't know it was a 50/50 split though, never got as far as publishing myself.
"quote pleutman" - "i like the off key because he is using eastern shruti grace notes..these don't occur in the western musicological scale system "
man, you said it ALL, his singing is BEST! i am so sad because people misinterpretate this fcukin' heavenly vocal stuff as "off key" singing ..or... "it's hard to sing and play so it's okay" :(
i watched this video for about.. umm. 200 times in last couple of years? WOWWOW!
Easily, one of the best rhythm sections of the last 100 years: Jansen and Karn can hold a groove so hard it's scary.
If there's one high Robert Plant's never experienced but should, it's singing with these guys, they'd get each other - but it might be somewhat frightening, 'cause they're all soo good.
I'm not crazy about his singing; but as a singing bass player myself, I have to say this is fantastic. His ability to sing while playing this interesting bass lines is simply awesome!
I second that (the part about singing & playing). I'll cut him some slack on the vocals though - they're a little flat, but that could very well be a monitor issue. Other than the flatness, I don't mind his voice at all, and of course he's a phenomenally unique bassist!
i like the off key because he is using eastern shruti grace notes..these don't occur in the western musicological scale system and only with the eastern modal systems that do not modulate to another key.if you are not familiar with eastern music it can sound dissonant to your familiarity.the fletless lends itself perfect for this,because it is not a tempered instrument and has infinate color within its compass.. Karnatic music!
Like this!! quite bowie like (fame/its no game/fashion)and maybe chilli's without the boyish bullshit...but ultimately mick karns own,more mature and darker;i love the funky utilisation of that eastern scale sound,and his kinaesthetic sence on that fretless is supreme,better than jaco i recon because his bass lines actually says something definate..he digs jazz believe so his musicological spectrum is probably advanced..looks cool and relaxed with his hair down,good voice as well!!
Beautiful ,original fretless. Nice to see a bassplayer avoiding popping and slapping for a change although that is good inits place too! thank you for the post !
This is my favorite song by Mick... on the album. Not the greatest performance live, but still very cool to see. Mick is still one of my favorite musicians around. Love it. This groove is just SICK. :)
He certainly is, on his own too. Theo Travis was great on Dave´s tour too. And Mick can sing, but not live on stage. He does need the studio and its technicalities. Practice might makesperfect, or not.
they should've let steve jansen sing, he's got a pretty decent voice. Or better still, they should've written the songs and arranged everything, and then, if they felt like it, and only if they felt like it, invited sylvian around as guest vocalist, ....keep the control freak in his place, whilst harnessing his voice. Just kidding David, we aa love yer.
Hi Moodyb thank you so much for uploading this. I have the album but it's wonderful to see/hear it live. I wish I had been there. Bless you!
Millf42 1 month ago
Miss you Mick! Glad to have known you! Your music soothes me....I'll NEVER forget you!
fransings4u 6 months ago
First time I ve heard or seen this; what was I doing in 1997? Its fantastic music and I especially like Mick`s expression at 5.27, it looks like he is happy with all he has done up to that point.
Would ve been his birthday today, RIP.
jansongs 6 months ago
Mick Karn you legend.
shinysynthcity 10 months ago
This rubbish about his vocals...go listen to your Lady Gaga would you?
boomsnarecrash 10 months ago
Wonderful musicanship... despite Mick's vocals! Seriously, he is missed so much... such talent. Every time I hear his playing, it's so sad that there will be no more; never occured to me the last time I saw them live that would be the last. Awesome drumming; keys tasetful and understated as always. Love the displacements.
brad42948 11 months ago 2
Wonderful concert. Is it available on DVD?
DrHeckill 11 months ago
i love this video its good to see mick having a good time.RIP Mick
davideffamykwk 1 year ago
i love this video its nice to see mick having a good time.RIP Mick
davideffamykwk 1 year ago 2
Best fretless bass player ever..
heksje69 1 year ago
Mick was the reason why I began to play bass. Rest in peace.
adammakarski 1 year ago
God bress you Mick! See you in heaven!
marious888 1 year ago
Brilliant!
frogspawn1969 1 year ago
Love this performance, the world has lost one of the greatest bassists ever. RIP Mick Karn.
shergold 1 year ago
RIP MICK
KessieKessie 1 year ago
Sheer brilliance and i quite like the intonations of his voice,as being eastern origin,their sense of scale and melody glides between "western scales".
On a more serious note,i hope we don't lose this talented human being any time soon,he has much left to reach musically!
zofo666 1 year ago
Ha ha; that´s great to see SW with that hair!!!!
Mick is the best, but not at singing, God bless him. BE WELL SOON MICK!!!
I know you will!
redarmr 1 year ago
MoodyB - thank you. I am also visiting all his Youtube vids and doing same. Time will run out soon. Much appreciation. R
joziguy 1 year ago
@joziguy
My pleasure...I wish I had the time and resources to do more...
moodyb 1 year ago
I moved onto lead guitar but Mick will always be the man on bass
pawnsacrifice1 1 year ago
Mick is seriously ill, please donate to his appeal here:
mickkarn.net
moodyb 1 year ago
@moodyb You can go to nightporter.co.uk/pages/bass_auction.html to learn about a bass auction with the proceeds going to the Mick Karn Appeal to help this great bassist and his family during his recent time of need fighting cancer.
ronbo11 1 year ago
@ronbo11
Indeed, I am doing my best to be part of the process...Keep your eyes peeled for another special auction very soon...
moodyb 1 year ago
In Karn's autobiography you find out Sylvian receives nearly all the royalties for all the Japan work. I still cant get over that... Im now an Ex-David Sylvian fan.
Xtr41 2 years ago
@Xtr41 - Why? He wrote the songs so he gets the royalties. That's how it works. The others will get royalties if their name is on there in writing credits.
jezzyby47 1 year ago
typical split is lyricist 50% - writers of the music the other 50%. Sylvian took nearly all of it. The other member wrote some incredibly unique music and got next to nothing for it.
Xtr41 1 year ago
@Xtr41 - Are you sure about that split?
Sylvian will have wrote the melodies as well as the lyrics, and as a guitarist and keyboard player will have got part of the music share too. Didn't know it was a 50/50 split though, never got as far as publishing myself.
jezzyby47 1 year ago
great bass..... awful singing.
zazz63 2 years ago
75% of Japan, but 100% talented !
FLORENT2222 2 years ago 5
75%? what about Rob Dean?
paintedship 1 year ago
The great bass player does not mean-good singer
MichaDuboff 2 years ago
wow what a great band and Mick as always is incredable!
rickk4art 2 years ago
steven wilson shud have played guitar on oil on canvas.
bobtherelevator 2 years ago
If only Mr Sylvian would make it a quartet one more time (or am I "drowning in my nostalgia"..?)
salmurph 2 years ago 2
maybe one day !!!
FLORENT2222 2 years ago
Nothing like live music. Wish I was there.
stellestar101 2 years ago 2
Great!
vanbastenrick 2 years ago
"quote pleutman" - "i like the off key because he is using eastern shruti grace notes..these don't occur in the western musicological scale system "
man, you said it ALL, his singing is BEST! i am so sad because people misinterpretate this fcukin' heavenly vocal stuff as "off key" singing ..or... "it's hard to sing and play so it's okay" :(
i watched this video for about.. umm. 200 times in last couple of years? WOWWOW!
MY ADDRESS FOR PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME!
InsaneEyesMINI 2 years ago 4
some people just can't handle microtones. :p there are more than 12 notes! :D
MobiusBandwidth 2 years ago 7
A rippin bassline from Karn,and beautiful funk from the entire band.I dig the flute!
ManyGodz 2 years ago 4
Easily, one of the best rhythm sections of the last 100 years: Jansen and Karn can hold a groove so hard it's scary.
If there's one high Robert Plant's never experienced but should, it's singing with these guys, they'd get each other - but it might be somewhat frightening, 'cause they're all soo good.
CusterFlux 3 years ago 3
I'm not crazy about his singing; but as a singing bass player myself, I have to say this is fantastic. His ability to sing while playing this interesting bass lines is simply awesome!
sorenrules 3 years ago
I second that (the part about singing & playing). I'll cut him some slack on the vocals though - they're a little flat, but that could very well be a monitor issue. Other than the flatness, I don't mind his voice at all, and of course he's a phenomenally unique bassist!
relayer43 3 years ago
i like the off key because he is using eastern shruti grace notes..these don't occur in the western musicological scale system and only with the eastern modal systems that do not modulate to another key.if you are not familiar with eastern music it can sound dissonant to your familiarity.the fletless lends itself perfect for this,because it is not a tempered instrument and has infinate color within its compass.. Karnatic music!
pleutman 3 years ago 5
Like this!! quite bowie like (fame/its no game/fashion)and maybe chilli's without the boyish bullshit...but ultimately mick karns own,more mature and darker;i love the funky utilisation of that eastern scale sound,and his kinaesthetic sence on that fretless is supreme,better than jaco i recon because his bass lines actually says something definate..he digs jazz believe so his musicological spectrum is probably advanced..looks cool and relaxed with his hair down,good voice as well!!
pleutman 3 years ago 3
greek taste & rock music are mixed...
Typical Mick's style, it's so cool, I love it !
If only David sings on this tune...
FAUVEEX 3 years ago
It would be quite interesting to know how Mick plays..
sebolon 3 years ago
awesome! the best bass line i've ever heard!
banensys 3 years ago 2
Great group!!! Steven Wilson is the best!!!
moonloop07 3 years ago
the dream team !!!
FLORENT2222 3 years ago
How can Mick play that unconventional bass line and sing at the same time?
boongg 3 years ago 3
because he is a genius !!
FLORENT2222 3 years ago 3
Richard Barbieri is a synth god.....QED
furyplum44 3 years ago 2
Damn! What a GROOVE! Mick Karn really know how to play tha Bass!
nukebass 3 years ago 5
Soo true,he's brilliant,but....
sadly not in the vocal department.
PAULLONDEN 3 years ago 3
J ansen B arbieri K arn. done.
luistun 3 years ago 2
Beautiful ,original fretless. Nice to see a bassplayer avoiding popping and slapping for a change although that is good inits place too! thank you for the post !
jsilence418 3 years ago 9
This is my favorite song by Mick... on the album. Not the greatest performance live, but still very cool to see. Mick is still one of my favorite musicians around. Love it. This groove is just SICK. :)
r3ality1 3 years ago
Nice drumming.
HollywoodWags 3 years ago 2
Amazing bass playing by Mick Karn. Yes, Steve Jansen is a great drummer!
ajittffcure 4 years ago 3
He certainly is, on his own too. Theo Travis was great on Dave´s tour too. And Mick can sing, but not live on stage. He does need the studio and its technicalities. Practice might makesperfect, or not.
Maxiclaudi 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Steven Wilson had way more hair back then! (... and arguably more talent, as he had not sold out yet...)
Fairlight60 4 years ago
we all have to pay the bills...
underwhiteclouds 4 years ago
i do believe he had not written deadwing back then.
M1nstr3l 4 years ago
He hadn't indeed; in '97 he was between Signify and Stupid Dream, at the top of his creativity if you ask me! ;-)
Fairlight60 4 years ago
i honor your opinion but i seriously find it kinda dull to call someone like wilson a sellout.
M1nstr3l 4 years ago 3
Mick's voice is kind of charming. I have his album "Titles" and absolutely love it.
crosspaths10 4 years ago
I have that album too crosspaths
DerVampyrEngel 4 years ago
I would like to see him and Geddy Lee of Rush get into a bass-off. LoL
MystikWolf83 4 years ago
Mick is a crap vocalist but is the God of bass
cisco9x 4 years ago
BRILLIANT bass player but needs work on his voice!
Jansen is one underrated drummer. Probably overshadowed by Karn!
nigelartist 4 years ago
I read that Mick was originally going to front Japan instead of Sylvian at one time.
MystikWolf83 4 years ago
they should've let steve jansen sing, he's got a pretty decent voice. Or better still, they should've written the songs and arranged everything, and then, if they felt like it, and only if they felt like it, invited sylvian around as guest vocalist, ....keep the control freak in his place, whilst harnessing his voice. Just kidding David, we aa love yer.
amdby1967 4 years ago
Charles Mingus and Thelonius Monk couldn't sing either-but they tried.
a bass god like karn has every right to self indulge if he so chooses.
He is an Institution in and of himself.
A pioneer in Bass.
check the "titles" album for a better example of his singing.
usignup 4 years ago
i love titles too he can do no wrong in my eyes
jenniferBG 4 years ago
They are ALL so EQUALLY talented. But Nick Karn... no... he can't sing. But he's a wicked bass player! The lyrics seem decent. Love him.
Mascara78 4 years ago
my hero he can come and devour me any day
jenniferBG 4 years ago
Ouch. So much is off key. I think the drummer is the most talented of the old Japan guys.
larkydozer 4 years ago
I loved Japan and Mick Karn is a bass god but.........not at all sure about his lead vocals. Mick....stick to what you're good at......My bass hero.
bobbybuttmunch 4 years ago
Mick is as cool as f**k. You try singing and playing bass this well!
Sproutsaint 4 years ago
You can sing however ya like if you can play bass like that!
sofybabes 4 years ago
Maybe i'm the only one here that isn't bothered by his voice then..
akumal999 4 years ago
Mick you cant sing face it !
citic101 4 years ago
lol look at how long stevens hair was
NevermorePsalm 5 years ago
Mick is the bassplayer with great concept of style, but with singing ....
It could be better to let girls to sing or just play instrumental
My respect to Mick!
MichaDuboff 5 years ago
Lol, Mick, by his admittance has noted that he has difficulty singing and playing at the same time...
moodyb 5 years ago
bad ass bass
purpledawg49 5 years ago
blimely i've loved this song for over 5 years and it's amazing to see a live version on you tube!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
karentwig 5 years ago
Jaco lives..Great stuff...
Excellent balance of funk/jazz/rock/experimental
adewolf 5 years ago
Mick's voice seems a bit off key... It's a great song, though.
hapidjus 5 years ago
tops. i want more.
dixgun 5 years ago