@CumminsForumHelp I know, but combined with street ports and MSD ignition, high pressure injectors (no webers), and a large throttle body + intercooler and RA classic 3mm seals + dual springs and lapped irons and housings with a billet 2 piece eccentric shaft all make 550 hp at the wheels.
@CumminsForumHelp It doesn't? More boost alone doesn't. Yet as long as everything associated with performance increases is sorted it does. ECU, Injectors, Internal components, Inlet Manifold, Headers, Turbo and so forth, and as long as ya AFR is spot on, no leaning out issues, the more boost ya can jam down the more HP ya get.
@LozzaTurbo Only slightly correct. I think Cummins would be referring to the fact that airflow makes power. You can make more power with a larger turbo, running less boost, than a smaller turbo running higher boost. Eg: Stick a small turbo like a GT28 on it, run it at 25psi, and you'll make x amount of power. Put a T88 on it, run it at 14psi of boost, you'll make more power than x. Boost only increases airflow, but boost isn't the be all end all of making power.
@ph33x Okay without getting heated here, stop reading magazines and work in the industry. Read my entire comment again, not just the last line. I said "everything associated." Yes your right in saying about the turbo size. If I take a standard car up the boost it's not going to do allot. Yet at 25psi you need to start thinking about forged bottom end. Thats why I said 'everything associated' with performance, mixtures, timing and then boost, sort it all, get more power.
@LozzaTurbo No need to get heated. I haven't read a magazine for many years, I didn't make any assumptions of your personal activities, neither should you with mine. I've done all of the work on my car myself, from selection & pricing to fitment. In doing this I've learnt much about the correlation between airflow and making power. On this topic as well, I don't see why we are referring to 'forged bottom end' on a rotor video. Rotors are strong, they only need better seals.
@ph33x Yep true. I did get a bit grr with the whole thing. Everyday I have at least 2, normally young guys, sometimes women come into the workshop spouting off crap that they think is all that because they have read and wasted money on 50+ mags/books. Currently I have a 13b BP NA, a 13b BP T, a 20b PP T to build, funny the forged thing came up as I forgot where we were, we also have a rb25, a 3s-gte and a 4g63 to build. I'm glad you have done your own work, good on you, sorry about assuming.
@LozzaTurbo No probs man. Hey I used to own a 'Series 2' (2nd revision of the first model I guess you could say) RX7, was a 12A Carby. Wasn't the fastest but the car was light and very fun to drive. I was going to stick a Series 4 13B turbo in it but I ended up crashing it. After that I had a crappy supercharged commodore, they're so shit lol. But I've always wanted a GTR, and years later my dream as come true so I'm trying to do everything the right way, the first time. RB26 GT2860-5's. :)
@Bamchucknorris that sounds about right. 700hp at the wheels from a 20b with around 18 to 20psi, at that it should hold together pretty well. 750hp if ya wanna push it a bit more. Depends totally on what the port is as well.
now this is something that u dont see every day this is the eunos cosmo it is crazy it is beefy and it is D Rotary its got a 20B turbo in it guys its got a T 50 WON ALL FOUR conventional sake 6 1700cc injectors hard to pronounciate tuning computer 1000 lbs of boost watch this video on youtube u see this thing screaming on the DYNO
@TPSkinny Mazda was actually planing a standard transmission for it at the time, but they were having some serious reliability issues with it due to the power and torque curve/output of the 20b-rew. so it was deemed to costly to develop a standard transmission for the 20b, but not to worry most tuners dont stick with the oem transmissions anyways so with some custom fabrication you can convert it to a standard in no time.
Lots of retardation on this subject. The 13b/20b blocks have a displacement of 654cc per rotor. There is no arguing this. Fact is fact. Multiplying the 1308cc displacement x2 is invalid. Makes no sense. As far as being compared to reciprocating engines, people misunderstand this often. Reciprocating engines make one combustion stroke per cylinder for every two turns of the crank, while the rotary makes one combustion stroke for each "cylinder"(chamber) per one turn of the crank. Efficiency wins.
@MegaGaaraofthesand rotary is the best thing out there as of right now efficiency wise hands down.. but the technology still needs serious work.. it just hasn't had the time in research and development that the recip engines have.. they're also much less common which makes maintenance on them a bitch cost wise.. but they do put up some nice numbers.
And i think that you will find that the Power:Weight Ratio is king.. 300hp in a 900kg Ae86 gives me 0.3 Hp per kilo, even if your commie has 400Hp you will lose because you weigh twice as much.
@alistair3030 but in every racing event determining what class it would race in, you take that 1300 and x by 1.7 and then x by 1.7 again if its turbo to see its equilivant power... which gives you a 3.8 L piston engine, now compare that to my 4agte that is equilivant to a 2.7 and 300Hp ATW and your argument is irrelevant. That is all
13bs are 1.3 liter engines go buy a rx7 and look what cc rating is on the ownership papers muppets ive put a 20b na im my rx3 sedan and it goes off the clock in third gear havnet had any brand new 6litre commodores even come close two beating me even at 260kmph im just winding out in 4th bahahahaah
The three-rotor 20B-REW was only used in the 1990-1995 Eunos Cosmo. It was the world's first volume production twin-turbo setup featured in both 13B-REW & 20B-REW form. It displaced 1962 cc (three 654 cc rotors) and used 0.7-bar (70 kPa) of turbo pressure to produce 300 horsepower (224 kW) and 407 newton metres (300 ft·lbf).
A 13b rotary ignites 1300cc of air/fuel mixture every revolution. A 1.3L piston (4-stroke) engine ignites 650cc of air/fuel every revolution. Therefore the 13b rotary would be equivalent to a 2.6L piston engine, since it would flow roughly the same amount of air and use the same amount of fuel. Since it ignites 3 times per revolution, it would also be equivalent to a 6 cylinder piston engine.
lol id like to see one of thse with 183k miles like the v8 car in my garage has. was 200k, or 300k, or 400k like alot of v6 and v8 cars out there. and V8s arent all low end power for the record..
You people do realize that you can easily push that much power out of a 4.0 (comparable size) v6 piston engine, lets not even talk about a v8. I'm unimpressed...
@mattg889 well for one, i would love to see a 4.0 or a shitty V8 pin the speedo, before the tack, V8 are slow, they only make bottom end power cuss the owners and this country that makes them are nothing but little biches. i have a 4 cylender with a 20V head that beats crochrocks, runin 17lbs of boost, and i have stoped V8s too. thet are slow, garbabe, and only biches drive them cuss they are week minded and full of themselfs.
@18vwT Dude, you are a moron. This car in the vid is obviously extremely modified. If you were to extremely modify a v6 (yes I said a v6) it would be just as powerful if not more. And there are many v8's that can bury the damn speedo needle before the tach. This guy obviously just doesn't have a speedo that goes to a high enough speed. What's the point in high end power again when you can use low end power? I guess if you want to replaces your engine on a regular basis it is fine then...
Kia438, I have 3 cars a honda crx which is getting a 185hp 1.6, a 240sx which is getting a 300hp 2.5, an a mazda r100 which is getting a 20b t51, I love them all
Now back to the video! 488rwhp isn't a lot to get out of a 20B - and I doubt even the owner of the car would disagree. But, he's only revving it to 7400rpm which (assuming he's done a good rebuild) is nothing for a rotary. What it is is conservative and practical, and won't force him to do a rebuild every 6 months. What rotorg33k has done is wicked cool, and he should be proud of the effort and results - thumbs up to him!
Now back to the video! 488rwhp isn't a lot to get out of a 20B - and I doubt even the owner of the car would disagree. But, he's only revving it to 7400rpm which (assuming he's done a good rebuild) is nothing for a rotary. What it is is conservative and practical, and won't force him to do a rebuild every 6 months. What rotorg33k has done is wicked cool, and he should be proud of the effort and results - thumbs up to him!
alistair is correct, as is DirtridinElCamino. Both are accurately making valid points.
The 13b is approx 1300cc, 20b is approx 2000cc. Some people are of the opinion that a 13b is 2.6ltr and a 20b is a 4ltr engine. Why is because they think because they have two spark plugs and two injectors per rotor, that the capacity per rotor should be counted twice. This is incorrect - plain and simple.
alistair is correct, as is DirtridinElCamino. Both are accurately making valid points.
The 13b is approx 1300cc, 20b is approx 2000cc. Some people are of the opinion that a 13b is 2.6ltr and a 20b is a 4ltr engine. Why is because they think because they have two spark plugs and two injectors per rotor, that the capacity per rotor should be counted twice. This is incorrect - plain and simple.
alistair is correct, as is DirtridinElCamino. Both are accurately making valid points.
The 13b is approx 1300cc, 20b is approx 2000cc. Some people are of the opinion that a 13b is 2.6ltr and a 20b is a 4ltr engine. Why is because they think because they have two spark plugs and two injectors per rotor, that the capacity per rotor should be counted twice. This is incorrect - plain and simple.
actually its = to a 6l engine if you add up all sides, but remember only 1/3 of the sides of each rotor are firing at any given time which makes it a 1.962l engine hence 20b
a 13b is a 1300cc engine, thats all there is to it. no other manufacturer can extract that much power from a 1300 engine - so rotary is king. a 20B is equivalent 2.0ltr capacity, no other 2.0litre comes close. its that simple.
@alistair3030 boosted from the factory your correct although the sr20 from nissan is capable of pushing well over 1000hp so there is a 2.0 that comes very close if not better. but ill give it to the rotary guys these things fuckin move but how efficient and econmical are they .ive seen plenty of 400hp+ combustion engines as dds how many 400hp+dd rotarysare there. this argument can go on forever because they are two diffrent motors its like comparing a disel to a jet engine too many pros and cons
@alistair3030 Actually a 13B is a 2.3 litre, something to do with the rotation speed difference between the E-Shaft and the Rotors, don't really know the specifics, all I know is my FC is classified as a 2.3l turbo for my club day races.
@alistair3030 look at the crappy little ricer honda's wit 1.9 or whatever puttin out a whole wopping 150hp rofl i luv rotory!! blown out tha water much ricers???
@RXHardstyle are you dumb it still whips little ricers wit cylinder motors out tha water. dont matter bout fuel use if ur looking at just the size/hp or for racing so f off?
@kia438 lol im surprised you call 4 bangers ricers. Or more to the fact hondas ricers. So that means the S2K and the NSX are ricers too? the SR20 is a ricer? the 4G63T is a ricer? thats odd =\ they can make upwards of 1000hp. i can't see any part of that power figure being a "wannabe racer" sir please specify what your argument is towards next time instead of generalizing everything as a "ricer"
@RXHardstyle NAH DUDE dont get like that in my town (basically rednecks that think there gangsters...) they put a little shitcan muffler and think there badass. i luv the s2000 and nsx dont get me wrong. sorry for the generalization's.
@RXHardstyle NAH DUDE dont get like that in my town (basically rednecks that think there gangsters...) they put a little shitcan muffler on there civic's etc, and think there badass. i luv the s2000 and nsx dont get me wrong. sorry for the generalization's.
@RXHardstyle whos worried about fuel consumption when you have a rotary, not me! and i'm running 2x1000cc and 2x1680cc injectors breathing through a gt5533r
@alistair3030 Ok. Explain to me how my 20g ej20 WRX with 785cc injectors gets better mileage than a 1.3L? Awd car with over 330whp and 3200lbs. RX7s have 2 fuel injectors for every rotor because theres 3 combustion chambers per rotor. Even a stock wrx is better on fuel than a n/a rx8 in both city and highway driving. Dont get me wrong I love rotories but cant stand how ppl think a 1.3L rotory is better than everything when it sucks back 50% more fuel than most engines that are larger. Cheers
@proudbugowner LMFAO! you must be used to rotors! I have revved it to 8000 every day for 6 years and it's still perfect. If you want that reliability get a real engine.
@proudbugowner Sadly you aren't in touch with reality. The rotor is reduced to a few special cars for people who still like them. And if a 20B was tuned like mine (NO internal modifications but producing over 200 at the wheels) it would last about 15 mins. that's the difference...
@bobba84 Yeah right, you wished. Better accept the rotary engine's superiority now, cause someday you will admit it in the hard and humiliating way... ;-)
@bobba84 Seems you are already dead, sh1thead! go have some fun with your pathetic humor and xour rb20 and when your inexistent brain breaks it, try to avoid flying valves from sticking up your arse. Go get a french car you faggot, you do not deserve a japanese. I'm done with you. Go gain some mechanical background and get a citroen.
@proudbugowner LMFAO!!!!! ........ LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! french car? hahahahahaha! your comparisons are hilarious! I find the fact that you are so angry extremely funny and it just goes to show you are a stupid shit with a ridiculous alliance to an outdated failed technology. I laugh at rotors every day and I'll continue to, especially when i completely destroy them and see the look on their faces. You have made my day.
@proudbugowner oh and BY THE WAY... you are in denial proud "bug" owner. bug's score absolute zero's on looks, speed, quietness, handling, environment, and everything else! The fact that you are proud of your disgusting stinking loud obnoxious slow bodyrolling heap of shit clearly shows your lack of intelligence. good day to you! ZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIG
@proudbugowner LMFAO!!!!!!! Woooooooooo! I am cornholio! I need tp for my bunghole! No wait I need weekly oil top-ups for my rotor! No wait I need an inline 6 to enter the 21st century! muahahahahahahahahahaha!
you can't compare rotary capacity to cylinder capacity. that's why the rx-8 renesis engine won in 2,5 - 3,0 litre class (engine of the year award). if you double rotary capacity, then you can compare them (but still not really, that are two completely different types of engines)
@alistair3030 Thats not 100% true a 13B engine is equivalent to a 3.6L V6 engine. Interms of efficiency. You cant class it as a 1300CC engine because its a completely different engine design. Its because its so difficult to classify why they are banned in several races.
A 13B can produce over 300hp all motor in racing trim. Thats impossible for a piston engine with 1300cc.
@Tj1056 it would only be equivalent to a 1.3L two-stroke engine. Not a 1.3L 4-stroke. Remember that in a 4-stoke engine, each piston requires 2 revolutions of the crank to complete it's cycle. The first for intake and compression, the second for ignition/combustion and exhaust. The rotary completes that process in 1 revolution. The other way of looking at it would be that the 4-stroke engine would have to operate twice as fast. 13b rotor @ 9000rpm = 1.3L piston @ 18,000rpm.
@ocauTMM yes but it is still a 4 stroke you cannot compare it to a 2 stroke... yes it can do it all in one rotation haha and you cannot say it moves as much air and fuel as a 2.6L piston engine... displacement is displacement... what it adds up to is 1308cc ....
@alistair3030 It is possible to get more power from a normal cylinder engine compared to rotary, but its MUCH more cheaper and less time consuming to just do up a rotary. Im not saying its easier, but its possible.
@alistair3030 yes u may get heaps more power out of a rotary but if ur pissed off and just wanna go jump in ur car and rip a mad burnout outside ur inlaws place u cant cause u hav 2 wait for it to warm up properly before going above 1/4 throttle or u run a very high risk of warping the alloy components of the shitty engine
@tiny1au why is it only the true tards call rotary fans rotards? aluminum isn't an alloy to begin with and o darn you have to wait a whole five mins to rev up to 9k...
EYE agree with u all the way ma homy..... D 20B can also be appreaciated as a NINE cylinder . HOPE FOUR RUBIX CUBE PRACTICE= fare pLay from all COLORS> :) PLus Ma UNCLE EINSTEIN was with MUAH in the same room with Ma UNCLE WANKEL and we also summonsed Ma Uncle RE-AmeMiya and DORI KING and got that mothafucka turninG! cant give out too many details of these events because i dont really remember much yet that shit was way back in 3030 :) FINNALLY SOME ONE LET ME OUT OF MAAA KAEGE!
daamn, i saw that thing parkedd on the side of the road and i thought to myself, wtf that shitbox looking thing have a 20b naaah maybe its old plates from a rx3, thing suuure did prove me rong lol
why doesn't it rev up to more than 7500? is there any specific reason for that? the stock rx8, i have driven went up to more than 9000, but it was a non-turbo engine...
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Rotary Engines are crap thats why no one makes them anymore. They have low torque, low efficiency, short engine life, anyone whos owned a rotary knows what a headache the engine is constantly blowing up.
Yeah only mazda and its only used in ONE of their models the rx8. There are probably over 10 000 different models of cars yet 99.9% have crossed rotaries of their list due to the mentioned problems.
Yeah they get some points on innovation but thats all. Out of the Japanese Car makers they are still behind Nissan, Toyota, Subaru and Mitsubishi. They havent built any car that can compete with cars like the GTR, Evox, STi. They have stopped the production of the rx7 which was their last true sports car.
ROFL, torque is nothing if you can't put it to the ground. They are efficient, combining a 2 and 4 stroke engine. They make more power for their size and I will admit eat gas (OMG THE END OF THE WORLD!!!)
Get facts, and here is mine. My rx-7 is on 183.000 miles and is still on the original engine, not even cracked open since 87. Also a turbo II and ran without the fan on the pump.
Have an rx-7 to drive around, then talk. You have not had one I can tell.
@jester28715 in the aspects of parts stores they give the 13b a unholy name 1.3L 2R.... which they refer to the 13b as a 1.3Liter engine... 2 Rotor.... 1.3L are 4 Cyl engines...
me personally i consider them like V6s then the 3 rotor like V8s and the 4 rotor more along the lines of V12...
compare a 1987 Supra v6 pushing 200+ hp 1987 Rx7 13b 120+ hp.... the rx7 seems more comparable to the 4 Cylinder class as its output isnt that of a v6 class.... the thing is tho Rotary cant compare to Valves
@xmitchell27 Just so you know. The supra was always a I6, not a V6. Also the turbo version of the mazda doesn't put out 120, it ALSO puts out 200+ HP. Look it up, then speak please. 1.3L mazda. I6 3.0L supra..... Your silly.
@lightningwrench and just so you know... read... i said rx7's 13b being 120... . not 13bt which IS in the 200's (which is the turbo version in which you speak about..... so to quote you, read then speak
@TakadaGenbe a Rotor is equivalent of 3 piston from a regular piston engine cuz it make 3 ignition in one cycle instead of only 1 for the the regular pistion engine so a 3 rotor = 9 pistons lolz
@GrUnGe567 thats not entirely accurate. a piston engine takes 720 degrees to complete a cycle, where as a rotary engine because the pistons are offset by 180 degrees from eachother, and moves 1/3 the speed of the eccentric shaft, means that it takes 1080 degrees to complete a full cycle. So if you compare the 720 degrees of rotation in a rotary, four faces complete their full cycles, means roughly 160ci (40ci per face, four faces). THIS IS FOR A 13B not a 20B, but the general idea remains.
@gogrampus 2 rotory engine equals to 12 cylinder piston engine, because 2 rotory engine fires 6 times in round and so does 12 cylinder engine. Piston engine have to go 2 times around to fire each cylinders.
You can image that RX-8 is N/A 2 rotary engine and it's 1.3 liter and has 230-250 hp. How many 6 cyl engine has that kind hp per litre ratio. M3 is maybe best for this and it has 3,2 L I6 and has only 340 hp. It should have something like 500 hp to match here.....
@Nakkinaama1234 Comparing a Rotary engine to a Piston engine is like comparing one to a Turbine engine. It's a completely different concept. If the 13b MSP also made comparable fuel economy then maybe you'd have a point, but I drive one and usually return around 19 mpg.
Another Cosmo lost its heart then. There won't be any left soon. ='[
elmotheewokking 2 weeks ago
I love the suction noise after 5k rpm
arypma 1 month ago
wondering, is it safe to rev up and drive to 7k revs without hear protection?
corveGT1PL 3 months ago
I want those bright gauge needles, lol
M1911A1 6 months ago
@M1911A1 yea I would like them for my SVX i hate my dim needles.
EG33SVXLSi 2 months ago
for a t51r on a 20B, the power numbers are quite low
rotor13 6 months ago
sounds so sick, too much turbo lag though
boostfed6 7 months ago
rediculous
hgortermarof 7 months ago
did they swap the tacho for the speedo?
Japool1 8 months ago
@Japool1 nar man, remember dyno runs are done in top gear
flynniz 8 months ago
@flynniz
they are done in 4th gear as this is closest to engine speed
TraxxasKing 7 months ago
shut up you retard. please reupload without retard commentary.
ElSpazidente 9 months ago
wow I'd think it would make more... my buds 13b makes 550 @ the rear wheel on 27 psi...
Bamchucknorris 9 months ago
@Bamchucknorris Alot of boost doesnt mean higher HP number
CumminsForumHelp 9 months ago
@CumminsForumHelp I know, but combined with street ports and MSD ignition, high pressure injectors (no webers), and a large throttle body + intercooler and RA classic 3mm seals + dual springs and lapped irons and housings with a billet 2 piece eccentric shaft all make 550 hp at the wheels.
Bamchucknorris 9 months ago
@CumminsForumHelp It doesn't? More boost alone doesn't. Yet as long as everything associated with performance increases is sorted it does. ECU, Injectors, Internal components, Inlet Manifold, Headers, Turbo and so forth, and as long as ya AFR is spot on, no leaning out issues, the more boost ya can jam down the more HP ya get.
LozzaTurbo 9 months ago
@LozzaTurbo Only slightly correct. I think Cummins would be referring to the fact that airflow makes power. You can make more power with a larger turbo, running less boost, than a smaller turbo running higher boost. Eg: Stick a small turbo like a GT28 on it, run it at 25psi, and you'll make x amount of power. Put a T88 on it, run it at 14psi of boost, you'll make more power than x. Boost only increases airflow, but boost isn't the be all end all of making power.
ph33x 9 months ago
@ph33x Okay without getting heated here, stop reading magazines and work in the industry. Read my entire comment again, not just the last line. I said "everything associated." Yes your right in saying about the turbo size. If I take a standard car up the boost it's not going to do allot. Yet at 25psi you need to start thinking about forged bottom end. Thats why I said 'everything associated' with performance, mixtures, timing and then boost, sort it all, get more power.
LozzaTurbo 9 months ago
@LozzaTurbo No need to get heated. I haven't read a magazine for many years, I didn't make any assumptions of your personal activities, neither should you with mine. I've done all of the work on my car myself, from selection & pricing to fitment. In doing this I've learnt much about the correlation between airflow and making power. On this topic as well, I don't see why we are referring to 'forged bottom end' on a rotor video. Rotors are strong, they only need better seals.
ph33x 9 months ago
@ph33x Yep true. I did get a bit grr with the whole thing. Everyday I have at least 2, normally young guys, sometimes women come into the workshop spouting off crap that they think is all that because they have read and wasted money on 50+ mags/books. Currently I have a 13b BP NA, a 13b BP T, a 20b PP T to build, funny the forged thing came up as I forgot where we were, we also have a rb25, a 3s-gte and a 4g63 to build. I'm glad you have done your own work, good on you, sorry about assuming.
LozzaTurbo 9 months ago
@LozzaTurbo No probs man. Hey I used to own a 'Series 2' (2nd revision of the first model I guess you could say) RX7, was a 12A Carby. Wasn't the fastest but the car was light and very fun to drive. I was going to stick a Series 4 13B turbo in it but I ended up crashing it. After that I had a crappy supercharged commodore, they're so shit lol. But I've always wanted a GTR, and years later my dream as come true so I'm trying to do everything the right way, the first time. RB26 GT2860-5's. :)
ph33x 9 months ago
@Bamchucknorris that sounds about right. 700hp at the wheels from a 20b with around 18 to 20psi, at that it should hold together pretty well. 750hp if ya wanna push it a bit more. Depends totally on what the port is as well.
LozzaTurbo 9 months ago
sounds like just a shit ton of air moving
FastClones 10 months ago
now this is something that u dont see every day this is the eunos cosmo it is crazy it is beefy and it is D Rotary its got a 20B turbo in it guys its got a T 50 WON ALL FOUR conventional sake 6 1700cc injectors hard to pronounciate tuning computer 1000 lbs of boost watch this video on youtube u see this thing screaming on the DYNO
DOEYEX 10 months ago
I guess no one told them that rotaries are crap.
(J/K, I love rotaries, I just think it's hilarious/stupid that so many people talk shit about them....).
nightmathzombieethan 10 months ago
that guy sounds gay!!! fucking faggot
b20002003 11 months ago
this is the eunos cosmoooooooooooooooo can u at least sound exhited.
budzag 11 months ago
+1 for that license plate
bonitomeistro 1 year ago 35
@bonitomeistro YEP ∙ 20B ;_)
Helldorado2008 6 months ago
They really shoulda made the Cosmo in standard transmission.
TPSkinny 1 year ago
@TPSkinny Mazda was actually planing a standard transmission for it at the time, but they were having some serious reliability issues with it due to the power and torque curve/output of the 20b-rew. so it was deemed to costly to develop a standard transmission for the 20b, but not to worry most tuners dont stick with the oem transmissions anyways so with some custom fabrication you can convert it to a standard in no time.
DrummerNig 1 year ago
@DrummerNig Aaah... thanks for the info!
TPSkinny 1 year ago
Lots of retardation on this subject. The 13b/20b blocks have a displacement of 654cc per rotor. There is no arguing this. Fact is fact. Multiplying the 1308cc displacement x2 is invalid. Makes no sense. As far as being compared to reciprocating engines, people misunderstand this often. Reciprocating engines make one combustion stroke per cylinder for every two turns of the crank, while the rotary makes one combustion stroke for each "cylinder"(chamber) per one turn of the crank. Efficiency wins.
MegaGaaraofthesand 1 year ago 5
@MegaGaaraofthesand rotary is the best thing out there as of right now efficiency wise hands down.. but the technology still needs serious work.. it just hasn't had the time in research and development that the recip engines have.. they're also much less common which makes maintenance on them a bitch cost wise.. but they do put up some nice numbers.
xxxxclutchxxxx 1 year ago
And i think that you will find that the Power:Weight Ratio is king.. 300hp in a 900kg Ae86 gives me 0.3 Hp per kilo, even if your commie has 400Hp you will lose because you weigh twice as much.
Alfahunta 1 year ago
@alistair3030 but in every racing event determining what class it would race in, you take that 1300 and x by 1.7 and then x by 1.7 again if its turbo to see its equilivant power... which gives you a 3.8 L piston engine, now compare that to my 4agte that is equilivant to a 2.7 and 300Hp ATW and your argument is irrelevant. That is all
Alfahunta 1 year ago
13bs are 1.3 liter engines go buy a rx7 and look what cc rating is on the ownership papers muppets ive put a 20b na im my rx3 sedan and it goes off the clock in third gear havnet had any brand new 6litre commodores even come close two beating me even at 260kmph im just winding out in 4th bahahahaah
r0tang1 1 year ago 2
The three-rotor 20B-REW was only used in the 1990-1995 Eunos Cosmo. It was the world's first volume production twin-turbo setup featured in both 13B-REW & 20B-REW form. It displaced 1962 cc (three 654 cc rotors) and used 0.7-bar (70 kPa) of turbo pressure to produce 300 horsepower (224 kW) and 407 newton metres (300 ft·lbf).
Swimfan420 1 year ago
A 13b rotary ignites 1300cc of air/fuel mixture every revolution. A 1.3L piston (4-stroke) engine ignites 650cc of air/fuel every revolution. Therefore the 13b rotary would be equivalent to a 2.6L piston engine, since it would flow roughly the same amount of air and use the same amount of fuel. Since it ignites 3 times per revolution, it would also be equivalent to a 6 cylinder piston engine.
ocauTMM 1 year ago
i think when it had the in car shot it had alittle wheel spin? em i right?
stewdue 1 year ago
lol id like to see one of thse with 183k miles like the v8 car in my garage has. was 200k, or 300k, or 400k like alot of v6 and v8 cars out there. and V8s arent all low end power for the record..
HaloSpartan86 1 year ago
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18vwT 1 year ago
You people do realize that you can easily push that much power out of a 4.0 (comparable size) v6 piston engine, lets not even talk about a v8. I'm unimpressed...
mattg889 1 year ago
@mattg889 well for one, i would love to see a 4.0 or a shitty V8 pin the speedo, before the tack, V8 are slow, they only make bottom end power cuss the owners and this country that makes them are nothing but little biches. i have a 4 cylender with a 20V head that beats crochrocks, runin 17lbs of boost, and i have stoped V8s too. thet are slow, garbabe, and only biches drive them cuss they are week minded and full of themselfs.
18vwT 1 year ago
@18vwT Dude, you are a moron. This car in the vid is obviously extremely modified. If you were to extremely modify a v6 (yes I said a v6) it would be just as powerful if not more. And there are many v8's that can bury the damn speedo needle before the tach. This guy obviously just doesn't have a speedo that goes to a high enough speed. What's the point in high end power again when you can use low end power? I guess if you want to replaces your engine on a regular basis it is fine then...
mattg889 1 year ago
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mattg889 1 year ago
@18vwT Wait, this is a 4 cylinder engine, now i'm even less impressed.
Oh btw it is quite easy to get over 20lbs of boost with a v8...
mattg889 1 year ago
if only the cosmo was light enough to show that type of acceleration on the ground :(
sof1map 1 year ago
ha ha ha my RB20 goes to 8000!
bobba84 1 year ago
that things pretty sweet ! the dude talking sounds like a poofter and ruined the video!
rollzon20z 1 year ago
the guy at the start sounds like such a downey
13bROT8N 1 year ago 53
Kia438, I have 3 cars a honda crx which is getting a 185hp 1.6, a 240sx which is getting a 300hp 2.5, an a mazda r100 which is getting a 20b t51, I love them all
Brendon00000 1 year ago
that fag talkin needs to get off the weed
lingling0432219507 1 year ago
lol .05 hp from what my sti makes on the dyno lol. on 109 gas
chapmanmerchant 1 year ago
All i can say is dam (kick ass)
yerwhogivesa 1 year ago
aussie bogans lol god I hate this countries accent.
erniethefart 1 year ago
The tach can't keep up with how quick the engine revs. I love the 20B.
mpalm887 1 year ago
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Now back to the video! 488rwhp isn't a lot to get out of a 20B - and I doubt even the owner of the car would disagree. But, he's only revving it to 7400rpm which (assuming he's done a good rebuild) is nothing for a rotary. What it is is conservative and practical, and won't force him to do a rebuild every 6 months. What rotorg33k has done is wicked cool, and he should be proud of the effort and results - thumbs up to him!
DB370 1 year ago
Now back to the video! 488rwhp isn't a lot to get out of a 20B - and I doubt even the owner of the car would disagree. But, he's only revving it to 7400rpm which (assuming he's done a good rebuild) is nothing for a rotary. What it is is conservative and practical, and won't force him to do a rebuild every 6 months. What rotorg33k has done is wicked cool, and he should be proud of the effort and results - thumbs up to him!
DB370 1 year ago
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alistair is correct, as is DirtridinElCamino. Both are accurately making valid points.
The 13b is approx 1300cc, 20b is approx 2000cc. Some people are of the opinion that a 13b is 2.6ltr and a 20b is a 4ltr engine. Why is because they think because they have two spark plugs and two injectors per rotor, that the capacity per rotor should be counted twice. This is incorrect - plain and simple.
DB370 1 year ago
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alistair is correct, as is DirtridinElCamino. Both are accurately making valid points.
The 13b is approx 1300cc, 20b is approx 2000cc. Some people are of the opinion that a 13b is 2.6ltr and a 20b is a 4ltr engine. Why is because they think because they have two spark plugs and two injectors per rotor, that the capacity per rotor should be counted twice. This is incorrect - plain and simple.
DB370 1 year ago
alistair is correct, as is DirtridinElCamino. Both are accurately making valid points.
The 13b is approx 1300cc, 20b is approx 2000cc. Some people are of the opinion that a 13b is 2.6ltr and a 20b is a 4ltr engine. Why is because they think because they have two spark plugs and two injectors per rotor, that the capacity per rotor should be counted twice. This is incorrect - plain and simple.
DB370 1 year ago
fuk i hate that dudes voice sounds like a nagging women
budzag 1 year ago
actually its = to a 6l engine if you add up all sides, but remember only 1/3 of the sides of each rotor are firing at any given time which makes it a 1.962l engine hence 20b
KirbSleep 1 year ago
love how it pulls away from 100km/h!
SEE YA! :P
sss1600 1 year ago
guy talking sounds drunk
MrSlowSkyline 1 year ago
in the start whohlolaiodwjdowjhohibnikn dude WTF YOU SAYING !!!!!
NLbertNL 1 year ago
20B is a fucking amazing engine!!!
RickStylus 1 year ago
this guy sounds like such a stoner.
roflex2 1 year ago
a 13b is a 1300cc engine, thats all there is to it. no other manufacturer can extract that much power from a 1300 engine - so rotary is king. a 20B is equivalent 2.0ltr capacity, no other 2.0litre comes close. its that simple.
alistair3030 1 year ago 31
@alistair3030 The way the 13B engine is, its more like 3.6. Mazda was retarded when it came calculating the displacement of their own engine.
SpikeRazzor 1 year ago
@SpikeRazzor lol... where did you get this info from? have you seen the engine? its smaller then a civic...
Tj1056 1 year ago
@SpikeRazzor~ u mean 3.9.
marek0086 1 year ago
@SpikeRazzor Learn how to calculate an engine's displacement first and then come back to revise your post.
proudbugowner 1 year ago
@alistair3030 its the the engine develops the power though, you also dont see other manufacturers chewing thru that much gas either haha
upinmygoodies 1 year ago
@alistair3030~ u dickhead!.... its power per unit of fuel!..... not displacement!
The rotary is a totally inferior design to the piston engine.
marek0086 1 year ago
@alistair3030 boosted from the factory your correct although the sr20 from nissan is capable of pushing well over 1000hp so there is a 2.0 that comes very close if not better. but ill give it to the rotary guys these things fuckin move but how efficient and econmical are they .ive seen plenty of 400hp+ combustion engines as dds how many 400hp+dd rotarysare there. this argument can go on forever because they are two diffrent motors its like comparing a disel to a jet engine too many pros and cons
DirtridinElCamino 1 year ago
@alistair3030 Actually a 13B is a 2.3 litre, something to do with the rotation speed difference between the E-Shaft and the Rotors, don't really know the specifics, all I know is my FC is classified as a 2.3l turbo for my club day races.
sw96 1 year ago
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Tj1056 1 year ago
@alistair3030 2L pikes peak engines can...
alexander1485 1 year ago
@alistair3030 look at the crappy little ricer honda's wit 1.9 or whatever puttin out a whole wopping 150hp rofl i luv rotory!! blown out tha water much ricers???
kia438 1 year ago
@kia438 my god you're dumb. the simple fact that rotarys use more fuel is why it makes more power lol
RXHardstyle 1 year ago
@RXHardstyle are you dumb it still whips little ricers wit cylinder motors out tha water. dont matter bout fuel use if ur looking at just the size/hp or for racing so f off?
kia438 1 year ago
@kia438 lol im surprised you call 4 bangers ricers. Or more to the fact hondas ricers. So that means the S2K and the NSX are ricers too? the SR20 is a ricer? the 4G63T is a ricer? thats odd =\ they can make upwards of 1000hp. i can't see any part of that power figure being a "wannabe racer" sir please specify what your argument is towards next time instead of generalizing everything as a "ricer"
RXHardstyle 1 year ago
@RXHardstyle NAH DUDE dont get like that in my town (basically rednecks that think there gangsters...) they put a little shitcan muffler and think there badass. i luv the s2000 and nsx dont get me wrong. sorry for the generalization's.
kia438 1 year ago
@RXHardstyle NAH DUDE dont get like that in my town (basically rednecks that think there gangsters...) they put a little shitcan muffler on there civic's etc, and think there badass. i luv the s2000 and nsx dont get me wrong. sorry for the generalization's.
kia438 1 year ago
@kia438 hondas are failures all togetther dude, you're bent if you like them
rollzon20z 1 year ago
@RXHardstyle whos worried about fuel consumption when you have a rotary, not me! and i'm running 2x1000cc and 2x1680cc injectors breathing through a gt5533r
rollzon20z 1 year ago
@alistair3030 Ok. Explain to me how my 20g ej20 WRX with 785cc injectors gets better mileage than a 1.3L? Awd car with over 330whp and 3200lbs. RX7s have 2 fuel injectors for every rotor because theres 3 combustion chambers per rotor. Even a stock wrx is better on fuel than a n/a rx8 in both city and highway driving. Dont get me wrong I love rotories but cant stand how ppl think a 1.3L rotory is better than everything when it sucks back 50% more fuel than most engines that are larger. Cheers
aspen02STi 1 year ago
@alistair3030 Wrong.
josh2009s 1 year ago
@alistair3030 My RB20DET (2 litre 6 cylinder) makes 350hp with light external mods. its that simple.
bobba84 1 year ago
@bobba84 Yeah right... for 3 seconds maybe?
proudbugowner 1 year ago
@proudbugowner LMFAO! you must be used to rotors! I have revved it to 8000 every day for 6 years and it's still perfect. If you want that reliability get a real engine.
bobba84 1 year ago
@bobba84 The real engine is the rotary engine. The rest belong to museums.
And when you compare two things, you do so with them in stock form. Not a stock 20B with a tuned to the limit RB20, for instance.
Cause in the end, the 20B if tuned with equally with your RB it will smoke you for good...
proudbugowner 1 year ago
@proudbugowner Sadly you aren't in touch with reality. The rotor is reduced to a few special cars for people who still like them. And if a 20B was tuned like mine (NO internal modifications but producing over 200 at the wheels) it would last about 15 mins. that's the difference...
bobba84 1 year ago
@bobba84 Yeah right, you wished. Better accept the rotary engine's superiority now, cause someday you will admit it in the hard and humiliating way... ;-)
proudbugowner 1 year ago
@proudbugowner LMFAO!!!!! They've had their day, do you still think ze germans are gonna win too! hahahahahahahahaha you really are funny
bobba84 1 year ago
@bobba84 Yeah laugh now that you can. You'll have your lesson. He who laughs last, laughs best.
proudbugowner 1 year ago
@proudbugowner this just keeps getting better and better. the rotor has HAD its last laugh. now go die with the 70's NAK NAK crappers.
bobba84 1 year ago
@bobba84 Seems you are already dead, sh1thead! go have some fun with your pathetic humor and xour rb20 and when your inexistent brain breaks it, try to avoid flying valves from sticking up your arse. Go get a french car you faggot, you do not deserve a japanese. I'm done with you. Go gain some mechanical background and get a citroen.
proudbugowner 1 year ago
@proudbugowner LMFAO!!!!! ........ LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! french car? hahahahahaha! your comparisons are hilarious! I find the fact that you are so angry extremely funny and it just goes to show you are a stupid shit with a ridiculous alliance to an outdated failed technology. I laugh at rotors every day and I'll continue to, especially when i completely destroy them and see the look on their faces. You have made my day.
bobba84 1 year ago
@proudbugowner oh and BY THE WAY... you are in denial proud "bug" owner. bug's score absolute zero's on looks, speed, quietness, handling, environment, and everything else! The fact that you are proud of your disgusting stinking loud obnoxious slow bodyrolling heap of shit clearly shows your lack of intelligence. good day to you! ZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIGZIG
bobba84 1 year ago
@proudbugowner LMFAO!!!!!!! Woooooooooo! I am cornholio! I need tp for my bunghole! No wait I need weekly oil top-ups for my rotor! No wait I need an inline 6 to enter the 21st century! muahahahahahahahahahaha!
bobba84 1 year ago
@proudbugowner here's a lesson on RB20's... example watch?v=S_r5PsxdQWs - 3 seconds? rotors pfft
bobba84 1 year ago
@alistair3030 and no 1300cc engine can pwn easily a v8! but the 13b can ! just a badass engine made in germany :D
AtzengamerMemphis 1 year ago
@alistair3030
you can't compare rotary capacity to cylinder capacity. that's why the rx-8 renesis engine won in 2,5 - 3,0 litre class (engine of the year award). if you double rotary capacity, then you can compare them (but still not really, that are two completely different types of engines)
olrb114 1 year ago
@alistair3030 Thats not 100% true a 13B engine is equivalent to a 3.6L V6 engine. Interms of efficiency. You cant class it as a 1300CC engine because its a completely different engine design. Its because its so difficult to classify why they are banned in several races.
A 13B can produce over 300hp all motor in racing trim. Thats impossible for a piston engine with 1300cc.
3star2nr 1 year ago
@3star2nr It's classfied as that because the rotors are 654cc separately, and since there are two of them in a 13B, its total is 1308cc.
wajalama 1 year ago
@3star2nr actually he is 100% correct it is a 1308CC engine... no matter how you put it... its equivalent to a 1.3L engine
Tj1056 1 year ago
@Tj1056 it would only be equivalent to a 1.3L two-stroke engine. Not a 1.3L 4-stroke. Remember that in a 4-stoke engine, each piston requires 2 revolutions of the crank to complete it's cycle. The first for intake and compression, the second for ignition/combustion and exhaust. The rotary completes that process in 1 revolution. The other way of looking at it would be that the 4-stroke engine would have to operate twice as fast. 13b rotor @ 9000rpm = 1.3L piston @ 18,000rpm.
ocauTMM 1 year ago
@ocauTMM yes but it is still a 4 stroke you cannot compare it to a 2 stroke... yes it can do it all in one rotation haha and you cannot say it moves as much air and fuel as a 2.6L piston engine... displacement is displacement... what it adds up to is 1308cc ....
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GoneBadKiwi 1 year ago
@alistair303 wrong... 13b is classed as a 2.6L and a 20b is classed as a 4L... learn more type less, its that simple
thatswhatyoucall 1 year ago
@thatswhatyoucall
40 cubic inches x2 gives 80 cubic inches...tell me if i`am wrong,but that doesnt ad up to 2600cc.
each rotor face can only displace 654cc for a 13b's rotor face....1308...fool
andbudzi 1 year ago
@alistair3030 It is possible to get more power from a normal cylinder engine compared to rotary, but its MUCH more cheaper and less time consuming to just do up a rotary. Im not saying its easier, but its possible.
z3r0zx1 11 months ago
@alistair3030 yes u may get heaps more power out of a rotary but if ur pissed off and just wanna go jump in ur car and rip a mad burnout outside ur inlaws place u cant cause u hav 2 wait for it to warm up properly before going above 1/4 throttle or u run a very high risk of warping the alloy components of the shitty engine
tiny1au 11 months ago
@tiny1au why is it only the true tards call rotary fans rotards? aluminum isn't an alloy to begin with and o darn you have to wait a whole five mins to rev up to 9k...
Speerx7 9 months ago
EYE agree with u all the way ma homy..... D 20B can also be appreaciated as a NINE cylinder . HOPE FOUR RUBIX CUBE PRACTICE= fare pLay from all COLORS> :) PLus Ma UNCLE EINSTEIN was with MUAH in the same room with Ma UNCLE WANKEL and we also summonsed Ma Uncle RE-AmeMiya and DORI KING and got that mothafucka turninG! cant give out too many details of these events because i dont really remember much yet that shit was way back in 3030 :) FINNALLY SOME ONE LET ME OUT OF MAAA KAEGE!
DOEYEX 10 months ago
20B me!
OzzyJay 1 year ago
never woulda guessed Bruno was in to rx7s
25ishbitch 1 year ago
SUPER LOVELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mobeenkhan 1 year ago
Even a GT60 would spool up quick on this car.
Gazboffinthe3rd 1 year ago
Holy sheet, speedo goes faster than revs.
MyMIXmedia 1 year ago 26
was this car yellow before?
HEKTIC458 1 year ago
Thats insane, 0-200 in what 4 seconds maybe, i never though the acceleration of the rotary was that good, i now want one in my mazda 1200
Brendon00000 1 year ago
@Brendon00000 its on a dyno it produces momentum
The98corolla 1 year ago
daamn, i saw that thing parkedd on the side of the road and i thought to myself, wtf that shitbox looking thing have a 20b naaah maybe its old plates from a rx3, thing suuure did prove me rong lol
Kovo95 1 year ago
Wow!!
tifosaurus 1 year ago
I think i pissed my pants
triplejjolley 1 year ago
oh... my... god...
catfisher10100 1 year ago
why doesn't it rev up to more than 7500? is there any specific reason for that? the stock rx8, i have driven went up to more than 9000, but it was a non-turbo engine...
22fret 2 years ago
the transmission is an auto.
v8killa09 1 year ago
the turbo picks up speed that fast in the last gear?
forkedroad 2 years ago
this is off the fucking show haha. the speedo is moving quicker then the revs, top 20b man.
JezzaN1 2 years ago
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ingemarolsson 2 years ago
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Rotary Engines are crap thats why no one makes them anymore. They have low torque, low efficiency, short engine life, anyone whos owned a rotary knows what a headache the engine is constantly blowing up.
DodgeVip3r 2 years ago
you know mazda still makes them right? lol dumbass
darkeyce02 2 years ago
Yeah only mazda and its only used in ONE of their models the rx8. There are probably over 10 000 different models of cars yet 99.9% have crossed rotaries of their list due to the mentioned problems.
DodgeVip3r 2 years ago
for that mazda is one of a kind, they make it work
darkeyce02 2 years ago
Yeah they get some points on innovation but thats all. Out of the Japanese Car makers they are still behind Nissan, Toyota, Subaru and Mitsubishi. They havent built any car that can compete with cars like the GTR, Evox, STi. They have stopped the production of the rx7 which was their last true sports car.
DodgeVip3r 2 years ago
very sad, but also true. there are rumors of a new mazda sports car coming out in 2011
Adam781 2 years ago
Well everybody but porsche agrees that rear engine placement is a dumb idea, but they've kept at it and make it work
jesus287 2 years ago
you do have a point
f0gGenxk 2 years ago
ROFL, torque is nothing if you can't put it to the ground. They are efficient, combining a 2 and 4 stroke engine. They make more power for their size and I will admit eat gas (OMG THE END OF THE WORLD!!!)
Get facts, and here is mine. My rx-7 is on 183.000 miles and is still on the original engine, not even cracked open since 87. Also a turbo II and ran without the fan on the pump.
Have an rx-7 to drive around, then talk. You have not had one I can tell.
whatUsaybob 2 years ago
yeah mine just rolled over to 245,000 on the original engine. know how to drive/maintain it and not be a little racerboy and it will last you.
Cordtus 2 years ago
It's like 2-stroke vs 4-stroke..2-stroke doesnt make double the power even if it does stroke 2times more..
So rotary doesnt make triple the power with same characteristics, maybe 150% with same powerband and displacement as a normal 4-stroke engine.
Like Honda S2000 and RX-8
rx-8 makes about 140% of s2000's power with almost same powerband.
So, 1300cc rotary N/A is equal to 2litre piston 4-stroke. Kinda like 2rotor=4cylinder
eamh2002 2 years ago
actually its roughly equivilant to a 2.6 litre 4 stroke 4 cylinder engine.
TakadaGenbe 2 years ago 2
@TakadaGenbe
no its not, more like a 4.8 v8. the 2 rotor is like a 2.6 v6
evilfdokinawa 1 year ago
@TakadaGenbe please tell me your not talking about the 20b... the 13b is equivilant to a 4 cyl not the 20b.
xmitchell27 1 year ago
@xmitchell27 no i was talking about the 13B, that comment was pushed down pretty far. someone was asking about the comparison to a piston engine.
TakadaGenbe 1 year ago
@xmitchell27 the 13b is equivelant to a 6 cyl not 4
jester28715 1 year ago
@jester28715 in the aspects of parts stores they give the 13b a unholy name 1.3L 2R.... which they refer to the 13b as a 1.3Liter engine... 2 Rotor.... 1.3L are 4 Cyl engines...
me personally i consider them like V6s then the 3 rotor like V8s and the 4 rotor more along the lines of V12...
compare a 1987 Supra v6 pushing 200+ hp 1987 Rx7 13b 120+ hp.... the rx7 seems more comparable to the 4 Cylinder class as its output isnt that of a v6 class.... the thing is tho Rotary cant compare to Valves
xmitchell27 1 year ago
@xmitchell27 Just so you know. The supra was always a I6, not a V6. Also the turbo version of the mazda doesn't put out 120, it ALSO puts out 200+ HP. Look it up, then speak please. 1.3L mazda. I6 3.0L supra..... Your silly.
lightningwrench 1 year ago
@lightningwrench and just so you know... read... i said rx7's 13b being 120... . not 13bt which IS in the 200's (which is the turbo version in which you speak about..... so to quote you, read then speak
xmitchell27 1 year ago
@TakadaGenbe a Rotor is equivalent of 3 piston from a regular piston engine cuz it make 3 ignition in one cycle instead of only 1 for the the regular pistion engine so a 3 rotor = 9 pistons lolz
GrUnGe567 1 year ago
@GrUnGe567 thats not entirely accurate. a piston engine takes 720 degrees to complete a cycle, where as a rotary engine because the pistons are offset by 180 degrees from eachother, and moves 1/3 the speed of the eccentric shaft, means that it takes 1080 degrees to complete a full cycle. So if you compare the 720 degrees of rotation in a rotary, four faces complete their full cycles, means roughly 160ci (40ci per face, four faces). THIS IS FOR A 13B not a 20B, but the general idea remains.
TakadaGenbe 1 year ago
@TakadaGenbe ok i see.... interesting, Btw thanx for sharing that knowledge honestly i never knowed that :P lolz
GrUnGe567 1 year ago
@TakadaGenbe no it is a 2.0 litre and it is the equivilant to a 4.0 litre
ok333 1 year ago
@ok333 correct, i think he was confusing the 2 rotor engine with the 3 rotor engine when he quoted the rough displacement comparison.
Kei
Kamukix 1 year ago
That exhaust has some V-12 character to it in a big way. Does the firing duration for the shaft and rotor combo match that of a V-12?
hairybackbuddy 2 years ago
No I-6
4-rotor matchs V-12
check ''SCOOT'' or ''MAD MIKE'' vids!
gogrampus 2 years ago
@gogrampus 2 rotory engine equals to 12 cylinder piston engine, because 2 rotory engine fires 6 times in round and so does 12 cylinder engine. Piston engine have to go 2 times around to fire each cylinders.
Nakkinaama1234 2 years ago
You can image that RX-8 is N/A 2 rotary engine and it's 1.3 liter and has 230-250 hp. How many 6 cyl engine has that kind hp per litre ratio. M3 is maybe best for this and it has 3,2 L I6 and has only 340 hp. It should have something like 500 hp to match here.....
Nakkinaama1234 2 years ago
yea try 440hp and 1100nm of touque from a 2.6
l nissan motor just by changing the computer.
Tane260 2 years ago
@Tane260 i'm not sure was this answer for me but nissan 2.6 i6 engines are all turbos?? You can't compare turbo between N/A
Nakkinaama1234 2 years ago
hey man just cing ur coment.if u watch dis is it turbod and it aint dat quick really impresive nun the less but really
Tane260 2 years ago
zzzz
yagam1 2 years ago
wat u some kind of f1 driver or own a f1 car ?
yagam1 2 years ago
@Tane260 RX-8 is N/A so it doesn't have turbo
Nakkinaama1234 2 years ago
@Nakkinaama1234 Comparing a Rotary engine to a Piston engine is like comparing one to a Turbine engine. It's a completely different concept. If the 13b MSP also made comparable fuel economy then maybe you'd have a point, but I drive one and usually return around 19 mpg.