Curiosity - I, Caveman: featuring the HK art crew

[jbranstetter04]

We have a fossil fuel based society that will someday rely on a different source of energy. Notice how everything they do in the video is based on fossil fuel energy, from the food they eat, the tools they use, and the vehicles they drive. Some worry that our civilization will come to an end when the fossil fuels run out, but I do not. Human ingenuity will not allow that to happen; we are here to stay. We will not be reverting back to caveman times anytime soon.

[longfootbuddy]

@jbranstetter04 chances are, technology will bring about the fall of civilization.. if it doesnt, its likely natural disasters will.. we may very well live like cavemen

[jbranstetter04]

@longfootbuddy If we continue down the road we're on now where nobody really learns anything, but instead they just read if off their little machine in their hands, then yes, if civilization comes to and end because of a natural disaster, then we may be living like cavemen or worse. But I am not a pessimist like you. I believe in mankind and his ability to create and invent. We will never live like cavemen again. In fact, with just a few books and the ability to read, a lot can be accomplished.

[longfootbuddy]

@jbranstetter04 until they realize what goverments are, and the trappings theyre bringing in the guise of benefits to mankind, well be slaves

[jbranstetter04]

@longfootbuddy At least here in the United States, the governments were created by the people to serve the people. They were created to do those things that the people could not do on their own. They have become much more than that, and in the process we have lost a lot of our liberty, but we are not slaves. We still hold the power if we choose to exercise it.

[longfootbuddy]

@jbranstetter04 it was created to regulate commerce between states.. anyway, we are treated as slaves.. in the name of "we the people", individuals are denied liberty... i believe in freedom, not majority rules.. if a man doesnt harm his countrymen, he should be left alone.. but thats not what we have here.. we have a tyrannical system that rules us by the gun, sets absurd rules for us, and demands we hand over wealth when we work and own property.. you dont call that slavery?

[jbranstetter04]

@longfootbuddy The federal government was created for a variety of reasons, not just to regulate commerce; see Constitution. I agree with you that the income tax is something that the framers did not want, as it does in a way enslave you to giving up what is yours. If a man was to live on his own land and only consume from his own land, and if he never left his own land, then the government should not in any way be able to tax him. The original taxes were only on consumption.

[longfootbuddy]

@jbranstetter04 as long as we live by the rule of democracy, we will continue to see what we have seen.. a tremendous loss of individual liberty... with every generation, more americans accept goverment control over their lives.. it is to the point now, that if you even consider freedom from this corrupt, bloated, absurd goverment, you are considered a lunatic by the majority... and this puzzling fact is why i despise democracy.. the majority seems to be completely delusional and brainwashed

[jbranstetter04]

@longfootbuddy You can either give up the fight or keep fighting. I choose to keep fighting. Look at the huge gains we have made in gun rights in the last 30 years. Just a few years ago for the first time the Supreme Court recognized the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right and not a collective right. This proves that its possible to reverse bad trends. I know it seems impossible at times, and maybe in the end it will be impossible, but we must try. 

[longfootbuddy]

@jbranstetter04 10 steps back, 1 step foreward

[jbranstetter04]

@longfootbuddy I see that you are too pessimistic to be a fighter. Good luck in whatever you do.

[longfootbuddy]

@jbranstetter04 no, im not pessimistic.. i do not only see the bad in things.. i just see the reality of things.. as for fighting, i fight what has happened, and what is happening with all my heart.. if youre talking about fighting with guns, it would be foolish to try such things at this present time... war should only be waged if it can be won, and at this time, people are nowhere close to being ready for such things

[jbranstetter04]

@longfootbuddy I speak of no such thing as fighting with guns. Our founders had no way politically to fight the British as they were not represented in the British Parliament. We on the other had still have the right to vote. Furthermore, we have the right to get involved locally in who is put up to be elected to our congress. The power is still in the hands of the people if we choose to exercise it.

[longfootbuddy]

@jbranstetter04 i see what youre saying, but i dont consent to be governed by the vote of a majority, so i dont feel justified in participating in such things.. it was nice talking to you, and i hope the best for you.. i hope things do change for the better

[jbranstetter04]

@longfootbuddy I see that you want to end this, and that is your right, but just one more thing. How is it that 300+ million people are supposed to live together if not by democracy, or at least by a representative democracy? Individualism is one thing, and a thing that I believe in, but we do need to work together on some things, and to get them done, we need taxation of some sort. As the poem goes:

No man is an island entire of itself;

every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main

[longfootbuddy]

@jbranstetter04 it would be much better to have a land of law that protects individual freedom, than to have a democracy in which a majority can vote away individual rights.. as for taxation, i dont believe anyone should be forced to pay for things they dont want

[jbranstetter04]

@longfootbuddy Even when we were colonies fighting Britain, we had property taxes, poll taxes, faculty taxes, and taxes on some consumption goods. A person must pay for the upkeep of the country that they live in. There should be no free lunch for some to live among us tax free. And as far as paying for some things that you don't want, that is how it is with everybody. Some do not want war, while others do not want welfare, but we must all pay for it..............

[jbranstetter04]

@jbranstetter04 .......We have rights guaranteed by our bill of rights, and none of that can be changed by a simple majority vote, it takes 3/4 of the states to do it. But of course the problem is the Supreme Court, as they can declare anything constitutional or not. In the beginning of our country it was unclear if the Supreme Court would even be allowed to interpret the constitution, but we know now that they can. I think I mentioned our second amendment rights that the Supreme Court affirmed.

[longfootbuddy]

@jbranstetter04 no we mustnt