i cant tell this is a joke right?? u r a good troll my friend.... and 10 / 9 beats u on river and of course buddy will call u with top pair and then top two pair he would be stupid not to... how can u say a poker site is rigged to give someone else your chips what are they getting lol?
online could be rigged depending on how you look at it.. they set up action flops to increase rake in cash games and cause fast eliminations in tournaments.. people still bluff though, and choose to fold, so it doesn't entirely predict the outcome of the game.. the ugliest beats usually happen in micro stakes though because noone cares about losing a dollar, so they call with dirty rags lol
This is not that bad but online poker is rigged. runner runners happen more than they would irl and they also have what you call showdown hands where they give everyone a good hand so they have more showdowns and all-ins at tables they make more money like this
lack of empirical data should be the first clue as to the strength of the argument. First because with a large enough sample size (20,000 hands or more) one not need make any argument as the numbers will speak for themselves. But more importantly, it’s the fact that those making accusations don’t even collect hand history data which exposes a fatal flaw in their argument because nearly every serious online poker player uses a software package like PokerTracker to analyze their play.
@shahrukh877 you obviously dont play very much online poker...dont even say you do because by your comment you obviously dont have the slightest clue how online poker works.....its nothing like live poker...you know nothing so stop acting like you do.
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo That's a really mature reply. Just telling me I'm wrong? Yes, you're super logical sir. LOL@ talking as if online poker has different rules or something. I wonder what you'd say if you got lucky instead like other people do at times.
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo If what you're saying is that this kind of bad beat cannot/does not happen in live card rooms, you really need to go out more. This is definitely not limited to online. And I gave the example of Poker Superstars merely because it is a show with little post-flop play due to shallow stacks, and greater chance of bad beats. If live tournaments had formats like online tourneys, you'd see the same shit.
finally, instead of posting specific videos showing bad beats (which pretty much happen to anyone who plays a lot of poker) you should do a statistical sample of the different expected and actual outcomes of hands and you'll see that in the long-run the expectation and the actual results will converge. taking one hand and making claims is pathetic.
And if it gives you an ego boost to believe you played that hand perfectly, sure go ahead and think that way. But how did your opponent play badly? I don't think he made any move in this hand that was terrible. Essentially standard play and it was just a cooler more or less. In tourneys with high blind/stack ratio, this kind of hand is going to take place a LOT, especially in multi-way pots. You can cry over it, but shit happens.
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo don't bother answering the troll , they work for pokerstars to ridicule anyone who knows that the site is rigged, my advise is to collect what you can and email all the Info to the FBI. Issai shceinberg the owner of pokerstars is a fugitive and a scamstar.
@sniped101 the point of my low betting was to get them to chase.....and more for me....that flush would have changed things though if it would have came out but it didnt...how was i suppose to know some dude would catch his full house with a runner runner nine
@Tyranical69 wow...you sure do not use your brain at all. do you really think this is the only time this has happened to me??? use your head and start thinking about what came b4 this video to make me start believing it was rigged...you have no idea what ive seen and played through let alone not knowing how bad or good I am at poker. it is people like you that make humans look like fucking fools assuming things and actually thinking you know anything about my online experience you worm
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo Listen mate... I have played poker for many many years, I play it live aswell as online and i've seen crazier things than that.
If online poker was rigged, I wouldn't be making an average of $212 per day over the past 6 months from it. You just got unlucky and decided to have a bitch about it because you suck.. you could see the hand that was going to beat you and you still decided to play aggressive, thats your fault.
@Tyranical69 thats not that unlikely.....LOL.....you assume you know how the cards have been played prior to that one hand....and by the way...that hand is very very unlikely.....i had a about a 97 percent chance to win after the flop. idiot. so your saying his 3 percent chance of catching what he caught was...well ...you said....not very unlikely....i dont know who taught you math but......you must be crazy.
All the sites are the rigged maybe some more than others, Poker Edge analysis will educate, no one is making money in cash games too. Some people are plying 16 tables at once and they are not showing a profit, what are they doing it for. Play one table for fun and lose yes you could put it down to a bit fun, a bit of enjoyment you could say but why multitable, something sinister going on, and its not for rakeback cos Party dont give it.
If you're so definite about it being rigged, why do you play? I think you know deep down it's not rigged, but you just can't admit you're not good enough. Drop your ego and learn the game, donk.
@WereGlidingWithStyle if you are so definite about it not being rigged and me sucking at poker then please tell me how much you have won??? and if you have not played online then why the fuck are you giving me advice and telling me how to play???? its funny how people just assume someone is a bad player for making a statement about a poker site being rigged....I wouldnt be playing if I WASNT WINNING ALSO YOU DUMBASS....
JUST BECAUSE SOMEone stats a site is rigged doesnt mean they LOSE MONEY
@WereGlidingWithStyle and by the way....you know nothing about how good I am or how bad I am...IT IS COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT WITHOUT ACTUALLY SEEING ME play a good number of situations and a good number of bets...so you saying I am bad is just making yourself look like a petty little child that has nothing better to do but troll...someone that had brains and had knowledge about the game would clearly know what to say.....like yes that was a bad beat but im not sure if rigged
the first hand, you say is rigged with the T9 against you, i assume you really don`t know much about correctly playing a hand. Why should it be rigged, when you let everybody see a flop for a limp, then put 70 in a 110 pot, when everybody has 20 times 70 chips in his stack?
how can you expect a two pair to be thrown instantly away on your half pot bet at the turn? You think you play good? you really suck. but i also assume that online sites are rigged in creating action obviously. greets from germany
@WereGlidingWithStyle anyone with any intelligence would state the obvious....please tell me...was this hand a bad beat or just me playing bad....YEAH GO FUCK OFF...it was a bad beat TARD..you know nothing about poker and you clearly just made yourself look like a FOOL for stating im a bad player for getting a bad beat....LOL I cant believe you dude...you are such a moron.
@WereGlidingWithStyle deep down i know that the poker sites just got caught for scamming people...go get your shit straight before you think you know what REALITY is.....look up full tilt busted and pokerstars busted...DUDE!
lol, u cant count the turn as part of a runner runner when only 90 of his chips had been put in, and if he could see your cards he really should see the turn anyway for 70 chips and 770 implied value on runner runner, that he could have folded if he missed the turn and probs would have
Its 70 chips with 770 left over, then 175 with an 8% to hit, however he cannot know you have trips, then 595 in with u drawing dead. I thought ur other vid was fake u are so f'd up lol but u really are stupid
This guy is 100% accurate, dont bother playing online, just go to the casino and see the real cards in person. The sad part is alot of people think they can beat the system of electronic gambling and keep depositing. I have stopped and only use free rolls.
@a692poundgorilla you obviously have no idea what the odds are of runner runner nines with a nine being in his hand and a four being on the flop with me having pocket fours....the odds of this happening are more than 1 in 400 of him hitting the runner runner nines....without him hitting his full boat.....so he hit his other card and his nine......do the math you idiot.
@a692poundgorilla and this video was going to be one of many many that i have....I just stopped playing online so i stopped wanting to even worry about it cheating....so...if you want i can send you about 100 videos of me getting fucked.....the problem is that you people have no idea of what my background is with playing online.....you have no idea what led up to this video....do you think im going to make a video like this just getting beat once you fucking idiot. many times ive analyzed.
Just so you know the odds of the river coming up 9 were
1 in 15 or 14 to 1 based on the fact we did not know he had a 9 untill after the hand was over.
Because he in fact had a 9 the real odds were 1 in 23 or 22 to 1 that a 9 would hit the river. But the fact is you lost because of your chip stack being the less of the two players in the hand. As you play on stars watch and see how often it will be the bigger stack that comes up winning.
@justhefacts100 your odds are way off....you need to take into consideration if you were holding the 9 and calculate the odds of both 9s coming up after the flop...your calculation is way off....the chances of him catching the two nines runner runner were 471 to 1....somewhere in there....JUST GOOGLE THE ODDS OF A RUNNER RUNNER STRAIGHT AND THAT IS MORE LIKELY TO HIT THAN RUNNER RUNNER 9s and the odds of that are 68 to 1 so...
@justhefacts100 you need to learn JUST THE FACTS because you are looking at it like well....there are 9 players and 3 burn cards gone that would be 21 cards that are gone and there are 3 nines that he could catch so....blah blah blah....that is NOT how you calculate odds bud....AND YOU SAY I LOST BECUASE MY STACK WAS SHORTER...if this is meaning chip leader advantage then I BELIEVE AND SEE THAT ALL THE TIME....but the fact is....his odds were near impossible...look up odds and figure out how to.
You only know the two cards in your hand and the cards on the board. At the turn u know of 6 cards
Subtract 6 from 52 = 46 now divide the 46 by 2 = 23 this means 1 in 23 cards will help inprove the hand.
easy math.
It is all based on a full deck, Not base on burn cards or the cards dealt to the other players. You can't use them because you don't know what they are. Also I agree the odds say almost impossible. but not on pokerstars,
Wow don't you love it? 6 players other then you see the flop. One of two players that stood in after the flop is holding a 10 9 s. You hit the set, he hit top pair. A 9C hits the turn to slow you and him down because a flush is pos. A 9 HITS THE RIVER now your thinking good I got it. But no the other player holding 9 10. That is the way the software controlls the play.
When you play online it is about your chip stack vs the other players chip stack. And not the cards you are playing.
i cant tell this is a joke right?? u r a good troll my friend.... and 10 / 9 beats u on river and of course buddy will call u with top pair and then top two pair he would be stupid not to... how can u say a poker site is rigged to give someone else your chips what are they getting lol?
dimebagwarlock 1 week ago
online could be rigged depending on how you look at it.. they set up action flops to increase rake in cash games and cause fast eliminations in tournaments.. people still bluff though, and choose to fold, so it doesn't entirely predict the outcome of the game.. the ugliest beats usually happen in micro stakes though because noone cares about losing a dollar, so they call with dirty rags lol
prodigy051985 2 weeks ago
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RuloBanderas 1 month ago
This is not that bad but online poker is rigged. runner runners happen more than they would irl and they also have what you call showdown hands where they give everyone a good hand so they have more showdowns and all-ins at tables they make more money like this
youneke 2 months ago
lack of empirical data should be the first clue as to the strength of the argument. First because with a large enough sample size (20,000 hands or more) one not need make any argument as the numbers will speak for themselves. But more importantly, it’s the fact that those making accusations don’t even collect hand history data which exposes a fatal flaw in their argument because nearly every serious online poker player uses a software package like PokerTracker to analyze their play.
skaloon 2 months ago
just watch Poker Superstars season 1 and see how many bad beats occur live too. Then shut the hell up!
shahrukh877 3 months ago
@shahrukh877 you obviously dont play very much online poker...dont even say you do because by your comment you obviously dont have the slightest clue how online poker works.....its nothing like live poker...you know nothing so stop acting like you do.
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 3 months ago
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo That's a really mature reply. Just telling me I'm wrong? Yes, you're super logical sir. LOL@ talking as if online poker has different rules or something. I wonder what you'd say if you got lucky instead like other people do at times.
shahrukh877 3 months ago
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo If what you're saying is that this kind of bad beat cannot/does not happen in live card rooms, you really need to go out more. This is definitely not limited to online. And I gave the example of Poker Superstars merely because it is a show with little post-flop play due to shallow stacks, and greater chance of bad beats. If live tournaments had formats like online tourneys, you'd see the same shit.
shahrukh877 3 months ago
and would you be so kind as to define what 'rigging' is? who rigs these games and what do they get out of it?
shahrukh877 3 months ago
finally, instead of posting specific videos showing bad beats (which pretty much happen to anyone who plays a lot of poker) you should do a statistical sample of the different expected and actual outcomes of hands and you'll see that in the long-run the expectation and the actual results will converge. taking one hand and making claims is pathetic.
shahrukh877 3 months ago
And if it gives you an ego boost to believe you played that hand perfectly, sure go ahead and think that way. But how did your opponent play badly? I don't think he made any move in this hand that was terrible. Essentially standard play and it was just a cooler more or less. In tourneys with high blind/stack ratio, this kind of hand is going to take place a LOT, especially in multi-way pots. You can cry over it, but shit happens.
shahrukh877 3 months ago
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo don't bother answering the troll , they work for pokerstars to ridicule anyone who knows that the site is rigged, my advise is to collect what you can and email all the Info to the FBI. Issai shceinberg the owner of pokerstars is a fugitive and a scamstar.
nick39113911 2 months ago
u should have raised higher on flop turn
sniped101 3 months ago
@sniped101 the point of my low betting was to get them to chase.....and more for me....that flush would have changed things though if it would have came out but it didnt...how was i suppose to know some dude would catch his full house with a runner runner nine
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 3 months ago
Got to agree. The shit is a pure rigged joke. Just the same as an online casino.
rimmyou69 5 months ago
Real fuckin poker in las vegas here is rigged now
TheFryingpanofdoom 6 months ago
online poker IS rigged.
eyeofthetiger98 6 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! thats not even that unlikely how can u say thats rigged u fucking idiot.
Tyranical69 7 months ago
@Tyranical69 wow...you sure do not use your brain at all. do you really think this is the only time this has happened to me??? use your head and start thinking about what came b4 this video to make me start believing it was rigged...you have no idea what ive seen and played through let alone not knowing how bad or good I am at poker. it is people like you that make humans look like fucking fools assuming things and actually thinking you know anything about my online experience you worm
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 7 months ago
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo Listen mate... I have played poker for many many years, I play it live aswell as online and i've seen crazier things than that.
If online poker was rigged, I wouldn't be making an average of $212 per day over the past 6 months from it. You just got unlucky and decided to have a bitch about it because you suck.. you could see the hand that was going to beat you and you still decided to play aggressive, thats your fault.
Tyranical69 7 months ago
@Tyranical69 Yea, right.
rimmyou69 5 months ago
@Tyranical69 thats not that unlikely.....LOL.....you assume you know how the cards have been played prior to that one hand....and by the way...that hand is very very unlikely.....i had a about a 97 percent chance to win after the flop. idiot. so your saying his 3 percent chance of catching what he caught was...well ...you said....not very unlikely....i dont know who taught you math but......you must be crazy.
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 3 months ago
i hold TT raised 10 bb got called by T8 joke, flop is 976,,yeah i go all in he calls with his str8, fuck me
involverrrrr 8 months ago
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All the sites are the rigged maybe some more than others, Poker Edge analysis will educate, no one is making money in cash games too. Some people are plying 16 tables at once and they are not showing a profit, what are they doing it for. Play one table for fun and lose yes you could put it down to a bit fun, a bit of enjoyment you could say but why multitable, something sinister going on, and its not for rakeback cos Party dont give it.
sonofharris 9 months ago
If you're so definite about it being rigged, why do you play? I think you know deep down it's not rigged, but you just can't admit you're not good enough. Drop your ego and learn the game, donk.
WereGlidingWithStyle 10 months ago
@WereGlidingWithStyle if you are so definite about it not being rigged and me sucking at poker then please tell me how much you have won??? and if you have not played online then why the fuck are you giving me advice and telling me how to play???? its funny how people just assume someone is a bad player for making a statement about a poker site being rigged....I wouldnt be playing if I WASNT WINNING ALSO YOU DUMBASS....
JUST BECAUSE SOMEone stats a site is rigged doesnt mean they LOSE MONEY
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 9 months ago
@WereGlidingWithStyle and by the way....you know nothing about how good I am or how bad I am...IT IS COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT WITHOUT ACTUALLY SEEING ME play a good number of situations and a good number of bets...so you saying I am bad is just making yourself look like a petty little child that has nothing better to do but troll...someone that had brains and had knowledge about the game would clearly know what to say.....like yes that was a bad beat but im not sure if rigged
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 9 months ago
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo
the first hand, you say is rigged with the T9 against you, i assume you really don`t know much about correctly playing a hand. Why should it be rigged, when you let everybody see a flop for a limp, then put 70 in a 110 pot, when everybody has 20 times 70 chips in his stack?
BanduschMC 7 months ago
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo
how can you expect a two pair to be thrown instantly away on your half pot bet at the turn? You think you play good? you really suck. but i also assume that online sites are rigged in creating action obviously. greets from germany
BanduschMC 7 months ago
@WereGlidingWithStyle anyone with any intelligence would state the obvious....please tell me...was this hand a bad beat or just me playing bad....YEAH GO FUCK OFF...it was a bad beat TARD..you know nothing about poker and you clearly just made yourself look like a FOOL for stating im a bad player for getting a bad beat....LOL I cant believe you dude...you are such a moron.
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 9 months ago
@WereGlidingWithStyle deep down i know that the poker sites just got caught for scamming people...go get your shit straight before you think you know what REALITY is.....look up full tilt busted and pokerstars busted...DUDE!
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 3 months ago
lol why do you keep playing
tallica111 10 months ago
It's called a bad (ish) beat
mschwodler 11 months ago
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"part 1 of alot" LOL that sums you up right there....
WereGlidingWithStyle 11 months ago
"part 1 of alot" LOL that sums you up right there....
WereGlidingWithStyle 11 months ago
lol, u cant count the turn as part of a runner runner when only 90 of his chips had been put in, and if he could see your cards he really should see the turn anyway for 70 chips and 770 implied value on runner runner, that he could have folded if he missed the turn and probs would have
Its 70 chips with 770 left over, then 175 with an 8% to hit, however he cannot know you have trips, then 595 in with u drawing dead. I thought ur other vid was fake u are so f'd up lol but u really are stupid
imluvinyourmum 11 months ago
This guy is 100% accurate, dont bother playing online, just go to the casino and see the real cards in person. The sad part is alot of people think they can beat the system of electronic gambling and keep depositing. I have stopped and only use free rolls.
001MeTaBoLiC100 1 year ago
if someone has a flush on that flop it's DEFINITELY rigged.
nuclearrabbit33 1 year ago 2
if ur gonna say the site is cheating, at least pick a situation where we can understand, this sir is not one.
a692poundgorilla 1 year ago
@a692poundgorilla you obviously have no idea what the odds are of runner runner nines with a nine being in his hand and a four being on the flop with me having pocket fours....the odds of this happening are more than 1 in 400 of him hitting the runner runner nines....without him hitting his full boat.....so he hit his other card and his nine......do the math you idiot.
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 1 year ago
@a692poundgorilla and this video was going to be one of many many that i have....I just stopped playing online so i stopped wanting to even worry about it cheating....so...if you want i can send you about 100 videos of me getting fucked.....the problem is that you people have no idea of what my background is with playing online.....you have no idea what led up to this video....do you think im going to make a video like this just getting beat once you fucking idiot. many times ive analyzed.
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 1 year ago
@mrpokervideos2010 wow, is that all you have to say?
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 1 year ago
Just so you know the odds of the river coming up 9 were
1 in 15 or 14 to 1 based on the fact we did not know he had a 9 untill after the hand was over.
Because he in fact had a 9 the real odds were 1 in 23 or 22 to 1 that a 9 would hit the river. But the fact is you lost because of your chip stack being the less of the two players in the hand. As you play on stars watch and see how often it will be the bigger stack that comes up winning.
justhefacts100 1 year ago
@justhefacts100 your odds are way off....you need to take into consideration if you were holding the 9 and calculate the odds of both 9s coming up after the flop...your calculation is way off....the chances of him catching the two nines runner runner were 471 to 1....somewhere in there....JUST GOOGLE THE ODDS OF A RUNNER RUNNER STRAIGHT AND THAT IS MORE LIKELY TO HIT THAN RUNNER RUNNER 9s and the odds of that are 68 to 1 so...
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 1 year ago
@justhefacts100 you need to learn JUST THE FACTS because you are looking at it like well....there are 9 players and 3 burn cards gone that would be 21 cards that are gone and there are 3 nines that he could catch so....blah blah blah....that is NOT how you calculate odds bud....AND YOU SAY I LOST BECUASE MY STACK WAS SHORTER...if this is meaning chip leader advantage then I BELIEVE AND SEE THAT ALL THE TIME....but the fact is....his odds were near impossible...look up odds and figure out how to.
oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo 1 year ago
@oo8GRIMSUBZ8oo
Regarding these odds,
You only know the two cards in your hand and the cards on the board. At the turn u know of 6 cards
Subtract 6 from 52 = 46 now divide the 46 by 2 = 23 this means 1 in 23 cards will help inprove the hand.
easy math.
It is all based on a full deck, Not base on burn cards or the cards dealt to the other players. You can't use them because you don't know what they are. Also I agree the odds say almost impossible. but not on pokerstars,
justhefacts100 10 months ago
Wow don't you love it? 6 players other then you see the flop. One of two players that stood in after the flop is holding a 10 9 s. You hit the set, he hit top pair. A 9C hits the turn to slow you and him down because a flush is pos. A 9 HITS THE RIVER now your thinking good I got it. But no the other player holding 9 10. That is the way the software controlls the play.
When you play online it is about your chip stack vs the other players chip stack. And not the cards you are playing.
justhefacts100 1 year ago