yes and many trinitarians have also repented and now understand that Jesus is also the Father. we have ONE Creator and that ONE Creator is our Father according to malachi and col. 1 tells us that ALL THINGS were created by Jesus, if this is true as the Bible says then He is our ONE CREATOR, who is our ONE Father. He is our great God(Father) and Savior(Son).
"Say (O Muhammad ): O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allâh, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allâh. Then, if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are Muslims. " [The Noble Qur'an 3:64]
Amen! This is a revelation to all that are called by the Spirit of Yeshua and that are revealed the great and powerful miracle of His workings so that who ever belives is not dismayed or vanquished but the Lord Yeshua of Nazareth will show Himself openly to them that are His Sons to the Glory of God the Father Yeshua.Amen.
@neronei ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
@onlytruegod ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
@loveroflife365 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
@loveroflife365 Read the bible carefully and you'll know about the name Jesus.. If don't know then read Mark CH 16:15-17 and you'll know about the name of Jesus and how powerful that name is. that name is above all name, and there is only one name given too us and the is Jesus Christ.
@MrApostolicbeliever ... Question: WHO exalted Jesus and GAVE him a name above all others? God. Jesus Christ is not God, never was, and never will be. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Oneness heresy is another form of trinitarianism, both doctrines make God "three something", when the Bible is plain; GOD IS ONE (not three anything!).
@loveroflife365 Be Baptized in the Name of the Father (God) , Son (Yeshua) and the Holy Ghost. Get it? Unless you name sons and then your sons are really you?? I tink it if rather simple. Many Oneness theorists have repented and realize God is the Father and he does not serve you. The above post by @AMoosin is correct. The son however did and does and came to give you salvation because the God could not and would not as we are no worthy. Maybe you are but I'm not.
There is no trinitarian formula in the Bible. The verses, I John 5:7 and Matthew 28:19, are both interpolations, meaning that scribes added or changed the wording of the original manuscripts to fit their bias.
Jesus Christ is the Son of the LIving God, Matt. 16:16, I John 4:15. Jesus is not God.
To call Jesus "God" is idolatry, breaking the first commandment.
@loveroflife365 -What I don't understand is how come you closed your account when you put all this biblically solid truth up in the two post I read so far.....
IT IS VERY PLAINLY STATED THAT THERE ARE THREE WITNESSES IN HEAVEN 1ST JN,5:7
REV 1:4-5 WE HAVE A SALUTATION OF GRACE AND PEACE FROM ALL THREE AND TO SAY DO NOT DEBATE THE ISSUE, WELL AS A MAN WHO LOVES GOD, AND I AM SURE YOU DO ALSO, AND BEING A ONENESS FOR 36 YEARS, TRY ING TO PROVE THE POINT, WELL IT WAS FUTLE. DAKE BIBLE IS THE TRUTH.
@HARLANGENEPARROTT The 1Jn5:7 is a historically known falsification of the Textus Receptus by Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus in 1522 known as the "Comma Johanneum".
@neronei What is written from here to "in earth" in 1Jn. 5:8 is not in some early MSS., but this is no proof that it was not in the original book as here recorded. Cyprian, Bishop of Carthage (200-258 A.D.), quotes this as being written by John (vol. V, 418,423, Ante-Nicene Fathers). Vigilius of Thapsus quotes it in the 5th century. The Codex Montfortii and the Vulgate contain it. The words are in perfect harmony with the doctrine of the Trinity. Dake's Annotated Reference Bible.
Well you just have to follow the context to see that it is a verse that has been put there taking advantage of the Words for in v6 the subject is "water, blood and Spirit", which is then confirmed in V8.Crypian quoted something that resembles that verse so that is not true. This verse was up untill 1522 only a FOOTNOTE in the MARGINS of 8 manuscripts and not the verse itself.These words may be in perfect harmony with the Trinity but as with the verse and the trinity they are false.
@neronei IN REV. 1:4-5 WE HAVE A GRACE AND PEACE FROM:
1. GOD THE FATHER (HIM WHICH IS, WAS AND IS TO COME
2. THE SEVEN SPIRITS BEFORE HIS THRONE (GOD THE HOLY GHOST)
3. JESUS CHRIST
NOTE: IN Revelation 4:5B
there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
THESE 7 EYES AND 7 HORNS ARE PLAINLY STATED TO BE THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD "SENT FORTH IN ALL THE EARTH." THEY ARE NAMED IN ISA. 11:2 THE ONLY ONE SENT FROM THE FATHER IS THE HOLY GHOST.
The seven eyes are the 7 Spirits of God but not the 7 Horns! If you can see a bit further these 7 eyes are in the LAMB of GOD that is the Body of God Jesus. That is the Spirit in Jesus is the Holy Spirit in fulness therefore God in fulness!!As it says in Zec 3:8-9! Jesus has also sends the Holy Spirit in Jn 15:26, 16:7. In Jn20:22 He blows the Holy Spirit upon them meaning that His own BREATH, that is His Spirit is the Holy Spirit !! as He Himself confirms in Jn 14:9-10!
6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns AND seven eyes, WHICH ARE the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
The 7 eyes are the 7Spirits of God but not the 7 horns otherwise they would be 14 and not 7. As I have shown you before these eyes are the same as written in Zec 3:8-9 which correspond to the same meaning of the Cherubim's eyes in Eze10:12+ 1:19-21. As Jesus is the Horn of God(1Sam2:10,Ps18:2,112:9,132:17,148:14) so these 7 Horns are 7 instruments that is 7 servants of Jesus that together testify to His total righteousness and are always before Him.
@thelordz72 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
Acts 2:21 Says, And it shall come to pass, that whosoever call upon the name of the Lord Shall be saved..... And I ask this...there is only one name given to us.....And THAT NAME IS JESUS!!!! and only BY THAT NAME WE ARE SAVED.
Stand firm on this great truth that has been attacked in the intent to diminuish AND DISIPATE its power for satan hates this revelation, but feel the anguish of those that do not have this revelation dont enter this great and powerful body, to spread this truth to the true called of Yeshua.
I LOVE JESUS CHRIST AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT I LOVE YOU.
IF I COULD PROVE JESUS WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE GODHEAD I WOULD BELIEVE IT, BUT NO ONE CA FAITH COMES BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD, NOT OF MAN!
Hebrews 4:8 (KJV)
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
@Tauron68 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
I believe that Islam is true. I believe that Jesus worshipped God alone and told his followers to worship God alone. I don't believe that Jesus (peace be with him) tell the people to worship his mother, Mary (peace be with her) nor himself. And I pray to God that I be Muslim.
It is true that neither He or the bible orders anyone to whorship Mary and this is a sin for who is catholic.I am afraid that if Islam was true it would not need to copy the Jewish or Cristian faith as it did. Then it is not true that Jesus said to whorship God alone.His disciples whorshiped Him becuse He is GOD as in Mat.28:17-18,Jn.20:28.He also proclaims Himself GOD in Jn 10:30-33 and in Jn.8:58 He proved this by raising Himself from the dead Jn.10:17-18. No other prophet did this.Phil.2:5-8.
I don't think Islam is a copy of Jewish or Christian faith. It comes from one source, the Lord. I don't think that Jesus (peace be with him) proclaimed Himself to be the Lord. Also, Jesus (peace be with him) was not dead but raised up to Him. He will come back during the End of times, to fight the Antichrist. I believe that Jesus (peace be with him) , Mary (peace be with her), Abraham, Moses, and the other righteous servants of the Lord were Muslims as well.
As the Quran says, reading the Bible will answer your questions: If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt (Surah 10:94).
If you are a Muslim, you have no excuse not to read the Bible.
@lovecarlaa18 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
The Quran commands and praises it. Why dont you start today? Begin with the Gospel of Luke which tells the story of Isa. He alone can give you assurance of paradise.
Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light (Surah 5:44a).
I believe tha muslim is not true. I believe that Jesus glorify in the Father and the Father in him. No true christian worship Jesus'mother only Catholic dear. Mary was just a human like us... Jesus was more than a prophet he accepts wordship dear... get that out of ur mind we not wordship Mary... we wordship the true living God..
I believe that Islam is true. I believe that Christ Jesus (A) was the servant and Messenger of my Lord. I believe that Christ Jesus (A) was the son of Mary (A). I understand what you are saying, but I don't believe that Christ Jesus said that he was the Lord. Christ Jesus (A) worship the Lord. He would never say that he was the Son of the Lord, my dear.
I believe that muhammad was mad man. I believe that Jesus is my lord ans savior. he came to save us from sins. Jesus was jus mary's son... ???HHHa and then Jesus was a liar then. i know he was not a liar then he is God as he claim it.
how can Muhammad contradict the Bible and he said he confirm the Bible. In the Quran, Muhammad commanded Muslims to read the Bible while he contradict it... lol he was a confusing man. A false prophet.
it is simple. The beloved Muhammad (S) said to confirm the Injeel of Christ Jesus (A). The Injeel is mentioned to be the Gospels. Much of the original teaching of the Gospels and Torah were lost. But still, one must affirm that God sent revelations to Moses and Chirst Jesus. You should read about how the Bible was formed. I don't believe the blessed Prophet discuss about Bible. and I believe the beloved Muhammad was a blessed servant of the Lord.
There are no lost books of the Bible or books that were taken out of the Bible. There are many legends and rumors of lost books, but there is no truth whatsoever to these stories.Every book that God intended and inspired to be in the Bible is in the Bible.There is one God. The Bible has one Creator. It is one book. It has one plan of grace, recorded from initiation, through execution, to consummation.
that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil) (Surah 5:46).It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind,
and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) (Surah 3:3).
And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losers (Surah 10:95). Guess what you are??? a loser as ur muhammad told you.. God read the Bible as he told u if u cannot understand ask other people. You are in darkness dear....
if Jesus was son of Mary then who is the father of Jesus??? if you tell me who was the father of Jesus I will deny him.
Jesus is Gods Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35.The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. how can u say he was son of mary?
Christ Jesus (A) was the son of Mary (Peace be with her). It is simple that Christ Jesus was born without a father. Tell me, who was the parents of Adam (A). Adam (A) was created without a mother or a father. And what about Eve (Peace be with her). ? Accept Christ Jesus (A) as the servant and Messenger of the Lord. May God bless Christ Jesus (A) and beloved Prophet Muhammad (S). My dear, I believe Islam is truth. You should read the Holy Quran as well.
There is no god, but One God. All Praises be to God. He is the Creator of the Heaven and Earth.
I believe that the Quran is the words of God and its words are protected by the Lord till the Day of Resurrection. I know some people disrespect the Quran, but that is their own action. God will always protect His words and it will not be lost.
God is Most Forgiving and each person is responsible for their own actions. I seek forgiveness in God. Jesus (peace be with him) was the Servant and Messenger of God.
@AMoosin Jesus said that he came to serve; you are right! Would God serve man, His creation, no way? Yehshua Messiach means Salvation FROM God; One sent from God. Messenger of God = Word of God (basically the same thing). If he is the messenger OF God, he cannot also be the God whom he is the messenger for.
@AMoosin ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
The opposing arguement for JESUS prayer is that GOD THE SON prayed to GOD THE FATHER, I do not believe this, I believe THE SON OF GOD prayed to GOD THE FATHER, the MAN prayed to GOD,.. but for me to believe that one PERSON or part of GOD can pray to another person or part of God and still maintain the claim of monothiesm is not acceptable to me. God praying to GOD is ODD,, =)
Excellent video. Every baptism was made in the one name Jesus. Acts2:38,4:12,8:12-18,10:36-48,16:15/33,18:8,19:1-6,22:16 are all the one's with a name spoken and it was in Jesus. Paul baptized that and was himself. All thru the word we read of the Jesus- do all in word or deed,Col3:17. The trinity was a concept from Babelonians then passed on to Egypt, Greece, and then Rome. tertullian coined it in 197ad and lie was adopted in 325 at Nicene and here ever since. They are the chaff. God bless all
@luztheloser ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
Great is the mystery of faith and His great workings,that God himself has come down in Adam's flesh,to provide salvation for His people,through His death and resurection for those that belive that His the God Almighty ever loving and ever merciful.Only God and no one else can achieve such a feat so as to proclaim all his intensions and deep spiritual meanigs before hand and fullfil them to the most infinte meaning for the love of His creation,for those that belive in His Name.Yeshua Bless you!
Great is the mystery of faith and His great workings,that God himself has come down in Adam's flesh,to provide salvation for His people,through His death and resurection for those that belive that His the God Almighty ever loving and ever merciful.Only God and no one else can achieve such a feat so as to proclaim all his intensions and deep spiritual meanigs before hand and fullfil them to the most infinte meaning for the love of His creation,for those that belive in His Name.Yeshua Bless you!
Great is the mystery of faith and His great workings,that God himself has come down in Adam's flesh,to provide salvation for His people,through His death and resurection for those that belive that His the God Almighty ever loving and ever merciful.Only God and no one else can achieve such a feat so as to proclaim all his intensions and deep spiritual meanigs before hand and fullfil them to the most infinte meaning for the love of His creation,for those that belive in His Name.Yeshua Bless you!
Thank the Lord God Almighty Yeshua of Nazereth, He is the True miricle and these are His Words for you and all to receive in fulL Love of His Spirit. I am just a messenger in His sevice.Yeshua Bless you through and through!
Do not thank me But the One and Only God Almighty Yeshua of Nazereth, His is the true miricle and these are His Words for you and all to see and receive.I am just a messenger in His service.
The Lord God Yeshua of Nazereth Bless you through and through.
@kkkkkkatherine ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
- If baptizism is the accepting of the blood of christ and removal or washing away of sins!
WHY WAS JESUS BAPTIZED BY JOHN the BAPTIST ? to remove his sins ?
Jesus was not god or the begotten son of God he was just a prophet - you have strayed from the true path worshiping Gods creation rather than God himself.
The bible says that all MEN have sinned but are not BORN with sin,and that DEATH came into the world through One man.1Cor.15:22,Rm.3:23!Jesus was born in the FORM of sinful man,BUT not WITH the original sin!Phl.2:5-8.THE TERM ORIGINAL SIN DOES NOT EXIST IN THE BIBLE.The baptism of John was a baptism of REPENTANCE and not a WASHING AWAY OF SIN!Acts.19:4.Jesus's baptism was a consecration to the ministry of the total removal of sin as in THE DAY OF ATONEMENT Lev.16:4.THEREFORE HE IS WITHOUT SIN!!!
net onei, Bible is not the truth it was written by unknown author(s) in the third person (..according to john,paul etc) and these people (john paul etc) never met jesus, heard him personally or saw him.There are so many descrepancies, incest,porn,killing, slaughter, mad ruleings,errors and versions upon versions edited constantly over time. As for the orig sin most Christians believe all babies carry the sin of Adam true or not true (even if not in the Bible -the word Bible is not in the bible)
Paul met Jesus on the road to damascus(Acts 9), John was one of Jesus' disciples/Apostles who actually witness Jesus Baptism and Resurrection(Acts 1), Peter who wrote 1 and 2 Peter was one of Jesus Apostles and traveled with Him....the list goes on
@chrismichael1 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
This was written 600 years before a so called prophet,spoke to an angel in a cave; this angel states to be the same angel that spoke to Mary,explaining the miracle of the virgin birth of Jesus,proclaiming Him to be the Son of God Most High;this same angel then contradicts what he said to Mary 600 years before,revealing this to a prophet that God never called or spoke to?It is obvious that that angel is a LIAR!
"You adore that which you know not: we adore that which we know. For salvation is of the Jews."Jn.4:22.Jesus is clearly stated in many parts of the bible as GOD IN FLESH!!He is prophesized in the scriptures from ancient times,as God in flesh.Isa.9:6.Mic.5:2Read the bible the true WORD OF GOD!
Jesus never had sin and that was not why he was Baptized, he did it to fulfill rightousness...Mat 3:15Jesus replied, "Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness." Then John consented.
@JudgeD007 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
Jesus was praying as a man to fulfil the spiritual role of THE ESCAPE GOAT as in the day of atonement (Lev.16.).He prays in Jn.17, to fulfil the role of High Priest, for His future church. In all His praying, was to sanctify His body of flesh that was in the form of SIN, to receive the fullness of God. Again, so doing, He was spiritually building the permanent Temple and house of God whom is Holy.Phil.2:5-8,Heb.5:7.
"He prays in Jn.17, to fulfil the role of High Priest, for His future church. In all His praying, was to sanctify His body of flesh that was in the form of SIN, to receive the fullness of God." None of what you said you supported is supported with scripture....
Heb.4:15"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."And it says"And being found in FASHION AS A MAN, he humbled himself, and became OBEDIENT unto death, even the death of the cross."Phil.2:8
.And again in Heb.5:7-10."Who in the days of His flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto Him that was able to save Him from death, and was heard in that He feared;Though He were a Son, yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered;And being made perfect, He became THE AUTHOR of eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him;Called of God an HIGH PRIEST after the order of Melchisedec."
And who is the spirit he prayed to? Well heres scripture...John 17:1After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "FATHER, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you....I would assume that was the voice in heaven , this is my son in Mat 3......
The Father of Jesus is the SPIRIT of God The body of Jesus was the man generated by the SPIRIT that is HIS SON.The SPIRIT of Jesus was the SPIRIT OF GOD,as explained by JAMES in Jm.2:26.
The Word of God,meaning the AUDIBLE word of God was made flesh,then in terms of the Trinity how could the Father or Spirit speak?How could John the baptist be SPOKEN to and SENT by the WORD OF GOD in the desert,while the Word of God was flesh elsewhere?Lk.3:2+Jn.1:33.This would mean that the Father and the Spirit should be MUTE.So how did God the Father speak then?It is obvious that God can speak through His SPIRT and the mouth of the flesh of Jesus in audible word.Eze.3:24+11:5,Acts.8:29+10:19.
The Father spoke when Jesus was baptised, mat 3:16,17...Jesus in the flesh prays to the spirit...the scripture never says..please find me a scripture says his human nature prayed to his spirit.."How could John the baptist be SPOKEN to and SENT by the WORD OF GOD in the desert,while the Word of God was flesh elsewhere" this means you are denying scripture to fit your own doctrine..If Jesus is the Father and HS, then who sent John to Jesus?
Mat 3:17And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased." Lets use common sense....who else would this my son whom i'm well pleased..please explain your way out of this..
In Luke 1:35 it clearly states that"...The HOLY GHOST shall come upon thee, and THE POWER OF THE HIGHEST shall overshadow thee:therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."The Father of Jesus therefore is the HOLY SPIRIT THAT IS GOD.Jn.2:24.He made Himself flesh and whilst being in flesh,He was God Almighty in Spirit,whom spoke to and sent John.The baptism was to reveal Messiah to John.Jn.1:33
John 2:2424But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all men....This verse does what for your point..when you can answer who the voice was in Mat 3 that said this is my son whom i'm well pleased, then we can finish the conversation other than that stop wasting time.
I will repeat it all again.The Father of the Man Jesus is The Holy Spirit Lk.1:35.When Jesus was baptised,the VOICE that spoke from heaven was the SPIRIT of GOD HIS FATHER.The same SPIRIT of His Body.God who is SPIRIT can speak through the mouth of Jesus and the Spirit at the same time.The dove that John saw upon Jesus,was to indicate to John the Man IN which the Holy Spirit lived,for the Holy Spirit is not a dove,but this was a sign to John.Only John saw the vision Jn.1:33
It says clearly that the WORD OF GOD came to John in the desert!Lk.3:2!But in terms of the Trinity the Word of God had already made itself flesh!God whom is a Spirit(Jn.2:24),is He that SPOKE TO AND SENT JOHN!There is no denying scriptures!You count three substances there are only TWO, the body(Jesus the man)and His Spirit(the Spirit of God)Jm.2:26.
If the Word of God is Jesus, John 1:14...So your point is exactly what....Jesus is the word, he is also the son..ok the Son of God came to John, then who is the Father? He's the son of somebody, who is it? Lets use common sense.
I'll repeat it again.If Jesus is the Word of God,and by Word of God it means the audible sounding Word of He that is God,then in terms of the trinity,the so called Father and Holy Spirit,that are 2 distinct and seperated individual persons,should at that piont be MUTE.But We see that a VOICE spoke from heaven.How could this be seeing that the Word of God,the other discinct and seperated individual person of the trinity, was flesh on the earth!This Word of God is He that sent appionted John.
Why would they need to be mute, you are not making sense...the voice from Heaven was who? When you can answer that with actual scripture then respond, otherwise you are wasting my time.
I said this in terms of the trinitarian doctrine,that if that situation a rose,that would mean that the other 2 should be mute,because Jesus was the Word of God on the earth,and we should not even hear the Voice from heaven.
You are right in saying that there are many ways to change the scriptures, the TRINITY is the best example of this type of manipulation!Be only sorry for yourself and others that follow this doctrine because you still cannot prove the baptisim or teaching of the TRINITY in any part of the New Test. seeing that you all say it is a teaching of the Apostles!Instead it is conceived and upheld by greek philosophy and not by THE WORD OF GOD through saints filled with the HOLY SPIRIT!
And can any one find a chapter where any apostle describes and explains the TRINITY seeing that it is of an outmost and obvious TRUTH. Who better than the ones that saw,spoke and touched the living temple of God (1Jn.1:1-5).If they did not write in a very distinguished meaning that expains the seperation and distinction of the three persons or rather Gods,then it does not exist!
Furthermore, I have yet to see a Trinitarian present an argument based solely on scripture. The arguments are not only permeated with tradition, but emotionalism. Somehow people believe that God is happy with 25k denominations with ONE book.
This is the Strong's definition of ONE 'echad ekh-awd'as you define WITCHCRAFT"1) one (number) 1a) one (number) 1b) each, every 1c) a certain 1d) an (indefinite article) 1e) only, once, once for all 1f) one...another, the one...the other, one after another, one by one 1g) first 1h) eleven (in combination), eleventh (ordinal)". So where is the WICTHCRAFT? Ex.3:14 says "I AM THAT I AM" (singular) not "WE ARE WHOM WE ARE" !
I never meant witchcraft was the meaning of one. Echad is a compound unity as it is used in that verse. Your 'free will' is not willing to see the error you made. I had a free will of pride and I did something about it. Just why is it that whenever someone message you and others of your beliefs, you answer back with a prideful and more holy than you comment? We don't message you to put you down, but to uplift you. That is the mark of a true Christian.
Why do you belivers of the TRINITY always belive to have the out right truth when you can never PROVE anything with outright proof knowing that all your understanding is based on an interpretion compelled by tradition and not revelation?If your eyes are shut due to unbelive and dogmas which refutes at all costs the profound understanding of JESUS,then pray!But having an historic standing point based on the Nicean council of 325 AD,you all take a LEGALISTIC standing point on others.
Jesus recognized the difference between him and his father, and the difference with the Holy Ghost, though these three are One. You must recognize these three are One. Not just the word One, but too the word three.
Jesus, my Master said: go, preach, baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. He recognized there is difference though they are one.
@BrotherMurray ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
@drl15son ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
@neronei ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
The major question between Oneness and Trinitarians is. Is there one Being or Deity in heaven? Yes its appearant that the Father and the Son are distinct (i.e. Eternal Spirit Creator vs. The Decendant of David born from Mary's womb). Trinitarians appear to claim that so called "God the Son" is currently in heaven sitting on his Father's right hand. Almost like a Junior God sitting on God Senior's hand, that would make two Gods in light of the scriptures reinerating that God is ONE.
Jesus clearly says in Matt.26:64"...Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of POWER..."(also in Mk.14:62).The right side of God means He received all the power and magesty of God, to dwell in Him,the temple of God (Spirit)[Jn.4:24]forever more.This is confirmed in Matt.28.17,Col.1:19+2:9,Rev.21:22-23.There is only one throne in heaven, explained by Jesus in Rev.3:21.One throne,One God!
If Jesus is God the Father. That means that man has actually seen God the Father, but i thought in 1 John 4:12 says No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
It realy says no one has seen "GOD",not God the Father(Jn.1:18).Jesus says that God is Spirit(JN.2:24),therefore Jesus is the Temple that permanently houses the Spirit of God,His own Spirit.When He walked on the earth in perfection of God,He was spiritualy biulding this Temple,so we could see Him as a man.But when He was glorified,receiving the fullness of God(Mtt.26:64;28:17),then those that are not of His Spirit are blinded and overcome by His Power and Splendor,as with Saul.Acts.9:3+8;22:6.
@authentic76 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
This statement has to be read in context.If we go back abit to V26, the subject matter is the return of the Son of Man.The "Son" therefore refers to this context.When He speaks of the Son of Man,He means he that is born and generated of man.
Therefore this refers to the creature of Man and not to the Son of God.For it says "nor the angels nor the Son",as if to say no creature knows the hour except GOD alone.
The translators have translated the Greek word "oudeis" meaning "no one" as "no MAN". If you use the Greek word for Man this would be "anthropos". This makes a great difference.
There are more than 200 texts in NT where the Father is clearly a different subject-individual than the Son. Make your own research and you will find it. Don´t repeat what others have said to you. find and know it by yourself. I challenge you.
I have read the whole bible by MYSELF and with no ELDER, or a traditional SPOON FED doctrine, as is the TRINITY as guidance. JESUS says clearly that He is God the Father in flesh and blood.Jn 14:9;Col 1:15,1Tim 3:16;Rm 9:5; 1Jn 5:20.
I have read Bible too, and Jesus never said: "I am the Father". If you want to know why Jesus is Father, it is-everlasting Father, just read Hebr 2:8-13. "..In bringing many sons to glory... "Here am I, and the children God as given me".. Who gave him sons? God, of course, his father. I challenge you to read again NT and underline every single time Jesus is clearly other individual-subject-person than his Father. Is not greek philosop... is the way holy men of God wrote that.
Jesus does say he is the FATHER.John 14:8-9"Philip saith unto him,Lord,shew us the Father,and it sufficeth us.Jesus saith unto him,Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast THOU HAST NOT KNOWN ME,Philip? he that hath seen ME hath SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us THE FATHER?".In Hebr.2:8-13 this said after He was glorified, but in John 14:8-9, this is said before being glorified, so He really means that He is the Father as omnipotent God in FLESH.Isa 9:6.
In Heb.2:8-13,If God gives Jesus sons He can be called FATHER, but is a keeper or baby sitter!!!Father means to generate not keep.But as Jesus says GOD is SPIRIT!!!Jn 4:24.Jesus was the man but His Spirit was GOD THE FATHER!So the distinction of the two is clear but the being is ONE.But the man(flesh) is alive by the SPIRIT.The men you speak of were students of Greek philosophy.Look inmto it!!
I don't follow a Greek PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT translated into Christianity, but the God of Israel.1Jn 2:27.You have to understand the FUNCTION and the MEANING of these TITLES. In James 2:26 it says "For as the BODY without the SPIRIT is dead.We are only 2 substances Spirit and Body. This is what Jesus the Son of God was; His Spirit was GOD in full, while being fully MAN in flesh. Phil. 2:5-9,1Tim.2:5,Col2:9,Rev.21:22-23.This is the Name of Jesus Isa 9:6, Mat.28:19,Acts.4:12.
according to Phil 2:5-9: Christ Jesus.. being in the form of God.. Doesn´t say being the Father. Did not consider equality with God.. equality include 2 or more in comparison.. therefore God exalted him.. Who did exalt him? God, it means his Father.. and gave him-who gave him something? God-his Father. And remember.. and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. again.. to the glory of God the Father.. is it greek philoso.. Is common sense. diff subjects.
Yes but in 1Tim 2:5"For there is ONE God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus" This is the form the IMAGE, that is the BODY which is the house, TEMPLE of GOD, which Jesus under full obedience to GOD, BIULT!This is what GOD has exalted, THE BODY, as seen in Revelations 5:6 + 21:23.Not a completly distinct man with a human spirit and body.This BODY was generated by GOD THE SPIRIT, therefore GOD SPIRIT is the Father that has generated the man JESUS!!!Mat.1:24,Luk.1:35!!
@yesGodknows ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
neronei and yesGodknows can you talk sometimes by your mouth or you have only to repeat what is write in the bible? Can you think by yourself or you need to read what to do in the holy text? i try to read bible, but sincerely is too much, milions of NONSENSE words! :[
Well JayBamBhole the things in the Bible are CLEAR for all those that belive and love God, for the bible has being written in a very simple language for anyone to understand.The bible explains it's self.If you don't understand it, it's because it is MADNES for you, because you don't belive or love God, and therefore you do not have any hope in Him.But I asure you that He is alive, according to what is written!Jesus bless you!
yes and many trinitarians have also repented and now understand that Jesus is also the Father. we have ONE Creator and that ONE Creator is our Father according to malachi and col. 1 tells us that ALL THINGS were created by Jesus, if this is true as the Bible says then He is our ONE CREATOR, who is our ONE Father. He is our great God(Father) and Savior(Son).
Thia911 11 months ago
Jesus (peace be with him) was the Servant and Messenger of God.
AMoosin 1 year ago
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Jesusisposttrib oii lier answer my question and stop changing the sujects, lier
NASWER MY QUESTION, ANSWER MY QUESTION,
IS JESUS GOD YES OR NO
IS JESUS HUMAN YES OR NO
DOES GOD EAT DRINK, SLEEP, FEELS PAIN DIE RUN WALK
DID JESUS LIVE DIE FEEL PAIN EAT DRINK SLEEP CRY YES OR NO
IS GOD A HUMAN, HOW CAN GOD DIE, WHERE DOES IT SAY JESUS SED WORSHIP ME, I AM GOD,
JHON 14:28, JHON 20:29 JHON 5:30
WHERE DOES IT SAY TRINNITY, WHERE, PAGE BOOK NUMBER,
khanei23 2 years ago
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"Say (O Muhammad ): O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allâh, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allâh. Then, if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are Muslims. " [The Noble Qur'an 3:64]
2009abuabdullah 2 years ago
"There is ONE GOD and one mediator between GOD and man, the man Christ Jesus." I Tim. 2:5
"... There is ONE GOD, the Father ..." I Cor. 8:6
Who is Jesus Christ? The Son of the ONE GOD, Mt. 16:16, I Jn 4:15
"Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him ... " I Jn 4:15
Who is Jesus? THE SON OF GOD
Is Jesus really GOD? NO!
The doctrines of Rome permeate pseudo Christianity and are not the truth.
JESUS is the SON OF GOD.
loveroflife365 2 years ago
Amen! This is a revelation to all that are called by the Spirit of Yeshua and that are revealed the great and powerful miracle of His workings so that who ever belives is not dismayed or vanquished but the Lord Yeshua of Nazareth will show Himself openly to them that are His Sons to the Glory of God the Father Yeshua.Amen.
Yeshua bless you
neronei 2 years ago
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@neronei ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
Amen, I agree 100% from a true christian
onlytruegod 2 years ago
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@onlytruegod ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Read the bible carefully and you'll know about the name Jesus.. If don't know then read Mark CH 16:15-17 and you'll know about the name of Jesus and how powerful that name is. that name is above all name, and there is only one name given too us and the is Jesus Christ.
MrApostolicbeliever 1 year ago
@MrApostolicbeliever ... Question: WHO exalted Jesus and GAVE him a name above all others? God. Jesus Christ is not God, never was, and never will be. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Oneness heresy is another form of trinitarianism, both doctrines make God "three something", when the Bible is plain; GOD IS ONE (not three anything!).
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Be Baptized in the Name of the Father (God) , Son (Yeshua) and the Holy Ghost. Get it? Unless you name sons and then your sons are really you?? I tink it if rather simple. Many Oneness theorists have repented and realize God is the Father and he does not serve you. The above post by @AMoosin is correct. The son however did and does and came to give you salvation because the God could not and would not as we are no worthy. Maybe you are but I'm not.
MsDezzyzRayz 1 year ago
@MsDezzyzRayz
There is no trinitarian formula in the Bible. The verses, I John 5:7 and Matthew 28:19, are both interpolations, meaning that scribes added or changed the wording of the original manuscripts to fit their bias.
Jesus Christ is the Son of the LIving God, Matt. 16:16, I John 4:15. Jesus is not God.
To call Jesus "God" is idolatry, breaking the first commandment.
The mantra "Jesus is God" = IDOLATRY
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 -What I don't understand is how come you closed your account when you put all this biblically solid truth up in the two post I read so far.....
MANUAIM 10 months ago
I thank you Jesus for accepting me as a sinner.
I got nothing to give you back, but firm praise and honor. take control of my inside and use my outside so your name is proclaimed.
thelordz72 2 years ago
@thelordz72 YOU SAY DO NOT DEBATE THIS ISSUE.
IT IS VERY PLAINLY STATED THAT THERE ARE THREE WITNESSES IN HEAVEN 1ST JN,5:7
REV 1:4-5 WE HAVE A SALUTATION OF GRACE AND PEACE FROM ALL THREE AND TO SAY DO NOT DEBATE THE ISSUE, WELL AS A MAN WHO LOVES GOD, AND I AM SURE YOU DO ALSO, AND BEING A ONENESS FOR 36 YEARS, TRY ING TO PROVE THE POINT, WELL IT WAS FUTLE. DAKE BIBLE IS THE TRUTH.
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
@HARLANGENEPARROTT The 1Jn5:7 is a historically known falsification of the Textus Receptus by Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus in 1522 known as the "Comma Johanneum".
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei What is written from here to "in earth" in 1Jn. 5:8 is not in some early MSS., but this is no proof that it was not in the original book as here recorded. Cyprian, Bishop of Carthage (200-258 A.D.), quotes this as being written by John (vol. V, 418,423, Ante-Nicene Fathers). Vigilius of Thapsus quotes it in the 5th century. The Codex Montfortii and the Vulgate contain it. The words are in perfect harmony with the doctrine of the Trinity. Dake's Annotated Reference Bible.
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
Well you just have to follow the context to see that it is a verse that has been put there taking advantage of the Words for in v6 the subject is "water, blood and Spirit", which is then confirmed in V8.Crypian quoted something that resembles that verse so that is not true. This verse was up untill 1522 only a FOOTNOTE in the MARGINS of 8 manuscripts and not the verse itself.These words may be in perfect harmony with the Trinity but as with the verse and the trinity they are false.
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei IN REV. 1:4-5 WE HAVE A GRACE AND PEACE FROM:
1. GOD THE FATHER (HIM WHICH IS, WAS AND IS TO COME
2. THE SEVEN SPIRITS BEFORE HIS THRONE (GOD THE HOLY GHOST)
3. JESUS CHRIST
NOTE: IN Revelation 4:5B
there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
THESE 7 EYES AND 7 HORNS ARE PLAINLY STATED TO BE THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD "SENT FORTH IN ALL THE EARTH." THEY ARE NAMED IN ISA. 11:2 THE ONLY ONE SENT FROM THE FATHER IS THE HOLY GHOST.
JN 15:26
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
The seven eyes are the 7 Spirits of God but not the 7 Horns! If you can see a bit further these 7 eyes are in the LAMB of GOD that is the Body of God Jesus. That is the Spirit in Jesus is the Holy Spirit in fulness therefore God in fulness!!As it says in Zec 3:8-9! Jesus has also sends the Holy Spirit in Jn 15:26, 16:7. In Jn20:22 He blows the Holy Spirit upon them meaning that His own BREATH, that is His Spirit is the Holy Spirit !! as He Himself confirms in Jn 14:9-10!
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei
Revelation 5:6 (KJV)
6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns AND seven eyes, WHICH ARE the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
The 7 eyes are the 7Spirits of God but not the 7 horns otherwise they would be 14 and not 7. As I have shown you before these eyes are the same as written in Zec 3:8-9 which correspond to the same meaning of the Cherubim's eyes in Eze10:12+ 1:19-21. As Jesus is the Horn of God(1Sam2:10,Ps18:2,112:9,132:17,148:14) so these 7 Horns are 7 instruments that is 7 servants of Jesus that together testify to His total righteousness and are always before Him.
neronei 1 year ago
Awsome work.
is is ann murray?
sounds familiar to me.
thelordz72 2 years ago
Thats right it is Ann Murray. It is probably the best version I have heard up untill now.
Yeshua bless You.
neronei 2 years ago
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@thelordz72 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
Acts 2:21 Says, And it shall come to pass, that whosoever call upon the name of the Lord Shall be saved..... And I ask this...there is only one name given to us.....And THAT NAME IS JESUS!!!! and only BY THAT NAME WE ARE SAVED.
MrApostolicbeliever 2 years ago
Stand firm on this great truth that has been attacked in the intent to diminuish AND DISIPATE its power for satan hates this revelation, but feel the anguish of those that do not have this revelation dont enter this great and powerful body, to spread this truth to the true called of Yeshua.
YESHUA BLESS YOU GREATLY.
neronei 2 years ago
@MrApostolicbeliever JESUS (JOSHUAH) yeh-ho-shoo'-ah STRONGS 3091
YHWH SAVED
JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY OF SALVATION FOR SURE, BUT THE NAME JESUS IS NOT MAGIC!
COL4:11,ACTS13:6
I LOVE JESUS CHRIST AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT I LOVE YOU.
IF I COULD PROVE JESUS WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE GODHEAD I WOULD BELIEVE IT, BUT NO ONE CA FAITH COMES BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD, NOT OF MAN!
Hebrews 4:8 (KJV)
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
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MrApostolicbeliever 2 years ago
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MrApostolicbeliever 2 years ago
Psalm 82:6
I have said ye are gods, and all of you are children of the most high.
Tauron68 2 years ago
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@Tauron68 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
Thanks for posting
May Jesus Christ bless you.
JL-channel ♥
jacoblorber 2 years ago
Yup, there is no god, but One God.... sounds pretty good to me
AMoosin 2 years ago
I believe that Islam is true. I believe that Jesus worshipped God alone and told his followers to worship God alone. I don't believe that Jesus (peace be with him) tell the people to worship his mother, Mary (peace be with her) nor himself. And I pray to God that I be Muslim.
AMoosin 2 years ago
It is true that neither He or the bible orders anyone to whorship Mary and this is a sin for who is catholic.I am afraid that if Islam was true it would not need to copy the Jewish or Cristian faith as it did. Then it is not true that Jesus said to whorship God alone.His disciples whorshiped Him becuse He is GOD as in Mat.28:17-18,Jn.20:28.He also proclaims Himself GOD in Jn 10:30-33 and in Jn.8:58 He proved this by raising Himself from the dead Jn.10:17-18. No other prophet did this.Phil.2:5-8.
neronei 2 years ago
I don't think Islam is a copy of Jewish or Christian faith. It comes from one source, the Lord. I don't think that Jesus (peace be with him) proclaimed Himself to be the Lord. Also, Jesus (peace be with him) was not dead but raised up to Him. He will come back during the End of times, to fight the Antichrist. I believe that Jesus (peace be with him) , Mary (peace be with her), Abraham, Moses, and the other righteous servants of the Lord were Muslims as well.
AMoosin 2 years ago
As the Quran says, reading the Bible will answer your questions: If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt (Surah 10:94).
If you are a Muslim, you have no excuse not to read the Bible.
lovecarlaa18 2 years ago
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@lovecarlaa18 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
The Quran commands and praises it. Why dont you start today? Begin with the Gospel of Luke which tells the story of Isa. He alone can give you assurance of paradise.
Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light (Surah 5:44a).
lovecarlaa18 2 years ago
I believe tha muslim is not true. I believe that Jesus glorify in the Father and the Father in him. No true christian worship Jesus'mother only Catholic dear. Mary was just a human like us... Jesus was more than a prophet he accepts wordship dear... get that out of ur mind we not wordship Mary... we wordship the true living God..
lovecarlaa18 2 years ago
I believe that Islam is true. I believe that Christ Jesus (A) was the servant and Messenger of my Lord. I believe that Christ Jesus (A) was the son of Mary (A). I understand what you are saying, but I don't believe that Christ Jesus said that he was the Lord. Christ Jesus (A) worship the Lord. He would never say that he was the Son of the Lord, my dear.
AMoosin 2 years ago
I believe that muhammad was mad man. I believe that Jesus is my lord ans savior. he came to save us from sins. Jesus was jus mary's son... ???HHHa and then Jesus was a liar then. i know he was not a liar then he is God as he claim it.
lovecarlaa18 2 years ago
how can Muhammad contradict the Bible and he said he confirm the Bible. In the Quran, Muhammad commanded Muslims to read the Bible while he contradict it... lol he was a confusing man. A false prophet.
lovecarlaa18 2 years ago
it is simple. The beloved Muhammad (S) said to confirm the Injeel of Christ Jesus (A). The Injeel is mentioned to be the Gospels. Much of the original teaching of the Gospels and Torah were lost. But still, one must affirm that God sent revelations to Moses and Chirst Jesus. You should read about how the Bible was formed. I don't believe the blessed Prophet discuss about Bible. and I believe the beloved Muhammad was a blessed servant of the Lord.
AMoosin 2 years ago
There are no lost books of the Bible or books that were taken out of the Bible. There are many legends and rumors of lost books, but there is no truth whatsoever to these stories.Every book that God intended and inspired to be in the Bible is in the Bible.There is one God. The Bible has one Creator. It is one book. It has one plan of grace, recorded from initiation, through execution, to consummation.
lovecarlaa18 2 years ago
that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil) (Surah 5:46).It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind,
lovecarlaa18 2 years ago
and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) (Surah 3:3).
And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losers (Surah 10:95). Guess what you are??? a loser as ur muhammad told you.. God read the Bible as he told u if u cannot understand ask other people. You are in darkness dear....
lovecarlaa18 2 years ago
if Jesus was son of Mary then who is the father of Jesus??? if you tell me who was the father of Jesus I will deny him.
Jesus is Gods Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35.The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. how can u say he was son of mary?
lovecarlaa18 2 years ago
Christ Jesus (A) was the son of Mary (Peace be with her). It is simple that Christ Jesus was born without a father. Tell me, who was the parents of Adam (A). Adam (A) was created without a mother or a father. And what about Eve (Peace be with her). ? Accept Christ Jesus (A) as the servant and Messenger of the Lord. May God bless Christ Jesus (A) and beloved Prophet Muhammad (S). My dear, I believe Islam is truth. You should read the Holy Quran as well.
AMoosin 2 years ago
There is no god, but One God. All Praises be to God. He is the Creator of the Heaven and Earth.
I believe that the Quran is the words of God and its words are protected by the Lord till the Day of Resurrection. I know some people disrespect the Quran, but that is their own action. God will always protect His words and it will not be lost.
AMoosin 2 years ago
there is no God,but one GOD LOL?
lovecarlaa18 2 years ago
@AMoosin John 8:24 (KJV)
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
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God is Most Forgiving and each person is responsible for their own actions. I seek forgiveness in God. Jesus (peace be with him) was the Servant and Messenger of God.
AMoosin 1 year ago
@AMoosin Jesus said that he came to serve; you are right! Would God serve man, His creation, no way? Yehshua Messiach means Salvation FROM God; One sent from God. Messenger of God = Word of God (basically the same thing). If he is the messenger OF God, he cannot also be the God whom he is the messenger for.
davidbfunny 1 year ago
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@AMoosin ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
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The opposing arguement for JESUS prayer is that GOD THE SON prayed to GOD THE FATHER, I do not believe this, I believe THE SON OF GOD prayed to GOD THE FATHER, the MAN prayed to GOD,.. but for me to believe that one PERSON or part of GOD can pray to another person or part of God and still maintain the claim of monothiesm is not acceptable to me. God praying to GOD is ODD,, =)
Jaysen1976 2 years ago
Excellent video. Every baptism was made in the one name Jesus. Acts2:38,4:12,8:12-18,10:36-48,16:15/33,18:8,19:1-6,22:16 are all the one's with a name spoken and it was in Jesus. Paul baptized that and was himself. All thru the word we read of the Jesus- do all in word or deed,Col3:17. The trinity was a concept from Babelonians then passed on to Egypt, Greece, and then Rome. tertullian coined it in 197ad and lie was adopted in 325 at Nicene and here ever since. They are the chaff. God bless all
luztheloser 2 years ago
AMEN!
neronei 2 years ago
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@luztheloser ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
love it JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE HE IS OUR LORD
SkovdeRyd 3 years ago
AMEN !!!
neronei 3 years ago
You are right, there is Only One God - Yahushua ha'Mashiach!
He is the Saviour!
Isa 43:11 I, I am YHWH, and besides Me there is no Saviour.
Yes we all know who the Saviour is! And He is the Everlasting Father also! (Isa 9:6)
Ammyai 3 years ago
Great is the mystery of faith and His great workings,that God himself has come down in Adam's flesh,to provide salvation for His people,through His death and resurection for those that belive that His the God Almighty ever loving and ever merciful.Only God and no one else can achieve such a feat so as to proclaim all his intensions and deep spiritual meanigs before hand and fullfil them to the most infinte meaning for the love of His creation,for those that belive in His Name.Yeshua Bless you!
neronei 3 years ago
Yahushua bless you also!
Shalom!
Ammyai 3 years ago
Great is the mystery of faith and His great workings,that God himself has come down in Adam's flesh,to provide salvation for His people,through His death and resurection for those that belive that His the God Almighty ever loving and ever merciful.Only God and no one else can achieve such a feat so as to proclaim all his intensions and deep spiritual meanigs before hand and fullfil them to the most infinte meaning for the love of His creation,for those that belive in His Name.Yeshua Bless you!
neronei 3 years ago
Great is the mystery of faith and His great workings,that God himself has come down in Adam's flesh,to provide salvation for His people,through His death and resurection for those that belive that His the God Almighty ever loving and ever merciful.Only God and no one else can achieve such a feat so as to proclaim all his intensions and deep spiritual meanigs before hand and fullfil them to the most infinte meaning for the love of His creation,for those that belive in His Name.Yeshua Bless you!
neronei 3 years ago
This is spectacular and follows the WORD OF GOD - oh that the world could see the TRUTH
mceland14 3 years ago 5
Amen. He is calling all that seek the Truth !!
Yeshua bless you.
neronei 3 years ago
Beautiful video!! Thank you..
wilderness2008 3 years ago 4
Thank the Lord God Almighty Yeshua of Nazereth, He is the True miricle and these are His Words for you and all to receive in fulL Love of His Spirit. I am just a messenger in His sevice.Yeshua Bless you through and through!
neronei 3 years ago
Do not thank me But the One and Only God Almighty Yeshua of Nazereth, His is the true miricle and these are His Words for you and all to see and receive.I am just a messenger in His service.
The Lord God Yeshua of Nazereth Bless you through and through.
neronei 3 years ago
Beautiful videos...Truth prevails: Jesus Christ = Lord God!
for above interaction w/ChrisMichael1:
'It is best to shun needless disputes with wicked opposers.' (Mt 21:28-32)
kkkkkkatherine 3 years ago
@kkkkkkatherine ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
- Is everyone born with sin - the Bible says so.
- Was Jesus born with the original sin ?
- If baptizism is the accepting of the blood of christ and removal or washing away of sins!
WHY WAS JESUS BAPTIZED BY JOHN the BAPTIST ? to remove his sins ?
Jesus was not god or the begotten son of God he was just a prophet - you have strayed from the true path worshiping Gods creation rather than God himself.
JudgeD007 3 years ago
The bible says that all MEN have sinned but are not BORN with sin,and that DEATH came into the world through One man.1Cor.15:22,Rm.3:23!Jesus was born in the FORM of sinful man,BUT not WITH the original sin!Phl.2:5-8.THE TERM ORIGINAL SIN DOES NOT EXIST IN THE BIBLE.The baptism of John was a baptism of REPENTANCE and not a WASHING AWAY OF SIN!Acts.19:4.Jesus's baptism was a consecration to the ministry of the total removal of sin as in THE DAY OF ATONEMENT Lev.16:4.THEREFORE HE IS WITHOUT SIN!!!
neronei 3 years ago
net onei, Bible is not the truth it was written by unknown author(s) in the third person (..according to john,paul etc) and these people (john paul etc) never met jesus, heard him personally or saw him.There are so many descrepancies, incest,porn,killing, slaughter, mad ruleings,errors and versions upon versions edited constantly over time. As for the orig sin most Christians believe all babies carry the sin of Adam true or not true (even if not in the Bible -the word Bible is not in the bible)
JudgeD007 3 years ago
Paul met Jesus on the road to damascus(Acts 9), John was one of Jesus' disciples/Apostles who actually witness Jesus Baptism and Resurrection(Acts 1), Peter who wrote 1 and 2 Peter was one of Jesus Apostles and traveled with Him....the list goes on
chrismichael1 3 years ago
Chrismichael1 , Where are your references. I don't mean something that was concocted hundreds of years after.
JudgeD007 3 years ago
I gave them to you, read them......
chrismichael1 3 years ago
What scripture are you reading here?Could you clarify please?
neronei 3 years ago
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@chrismichael1 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
"But though WE, or an ANGEL from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,let him be ACCURSED." Gal.1:8.
neronei 3 years ago
This was written 600 years before a so called prophet,spoke to an angel in a cave; this angel states to be the same angel that spoke to Mary,explaining the miracle of the virgin birth of Jesus,proclaiming Him to be the Son of God Most High;this same angel then contradicts what he said to Mary 600 years before,revealing this to a prophet that God never called or spoke to?It is obvious that that angel is a LIAR!
neronei 3 years ago
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." 2Cor.11:14
A M E N !
neronei 3 years ago
"You adore that which you know not: we adore that which we know. For salvation is of the Jews."Jn.4:22.Jesus is clearly stated in many parts of the bible as GOD IN FLESH!!He is prophesized in the scriptures from ancient times,as God in flesh.Isa.9:6.Mic.5:2Read the bible the true WORD OF GOD!
neronei 3 years ago
Jesus never had sin and that was not why he was Baptized, he did it to fulfill rightousness...Mat 3:15Jesus replied, "Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness." Then John consented.
chrismichael1 3 years ago
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@JudgeD007 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
So who did Jesus pray to in the Garden? Who was the voice from Heaven that said this my son, whom im well pleased when Jesus was Baptized?
chrismichael1 3 years ago
Jesus was praying as a man to fulfil the spiritual role of THE ESCAPE GOAT as in the day of atonement (Lev.16.).He prays in Jn.17, to fulfil the role of High Priest, for His future church. In all His praying, was to sanctify His body of flesh that was in the form of SIN, to receive the fullness of God. Again, so doing, He was spiritually building the permanent Temple and house of God whom is Holy.Phil.2:5-8,Heb.5:7.
neronei 3 years ago
"He prays in Jn.17, to fulfil the role of High Priest, for His future church. In all His praying, was to sanctify His body of flesh that was in the form of SIN, to receive the fullness of God." None of what you said you supported is supported with scripture....
chrismichael1 3 years ago
Heb.4:15"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."And it says"And being found in FASHION AS A MAN, he humbled himself, and became OBEDIENT unto death, even the death of the cross."Phil.2:8
neronei 3 years ago
.And again in Heb.5:7-10."Who in the days of His flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto Him that was able to save Him from death, and was heard in that He feared;Though He were a Son, yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered;And being made perfect, He became THE AUTHOR of eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him;Called of God an HIGH PRIEST after the order of Melchisedec."
neronei 3 years ago
He offered pryaers up to who? Now you are giving scripture that supports my argument.
chrismichael1 3 years ago
He offered prayers to God whom is a Spirit.
Jn.2:24
neronei 3 years ago
And who is the spirit he prayed to? Well heres scripture...John 17:1After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "FATHER, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you....I would assume that was the voice in heaven , this is my son in Mat 3......
chrismichael1 3 years ago
The Father of Jesus is the SPIRIT of God The body of Jesus was the man generated by the SPIRIT that is HIS SON.The SPIRIT of Jesus was the SPIRIT OF GOD,as explained by JAMES in Jm.2:26.
neronei 3 years ago
To glorify the SON meant to put HIM to death to be raised again to become the source of salvation.The SPIRIT was the VOICE from heaven!CLEAR!
neronei 3 years ago
So basically it was his Father, seperate from himself.....
chrismichael1 3 years ago
His FATHER is HIS own SPIRIT that is not seperate at all.
neronei 3 years ago
what scripture says that?
chrismichael1 3 years ago
Lk.1:35,Acts.16:6-7(NIV),Rm.8:9;1Cor.15:45;2Cor.3:17;Eph.4:4-6;Phil.1:19,1Pet.1:10-11;Rev.5:6;Rev.19:10.
neronei 3 years ago
You do realize those scriptures don't say that?
chrismichael1 3 years ago
That's your opinion.They say are clearly that, and you know it well.
neronei 3 years ago
The Word of God,meaning the AUDIBLE word of God was made flesh,then in terms of the Trinity how could the Father or Spirit speak?How could John the baptist be SPOKEN to and SENT by the WORD OF GOD in the desert,while the Word of God was flesh elsewhere?Lk.3:2+Jn.1:33.This would mean that the Father and the Spirit should be MUTE.So how did God the Father speak then?It is obvious that God can speak through His SPIRT and the mouth of the flesh of Jesus in audible word.Eze.3:24+11:5,Acts.8:29+10:19.
neronei 3 years ago
The Father spoke when Jesus was baptised, mat 3:16,17...Jesus in the flesh prays to the spirit...the scripture never says..please find me a scripture says his human nature prayed to his spirit.."How could John the baptist be SPOKEN to and SENT by the WORD OF GOD in the desert,while the Word of God was flesh elsewhere" this means you are denying scripture to fit your own doctrine..If Jesus is the Father and HS, then who sent John to Jesus?
chrismichael1 3 years ago
It does not say that "THE FATHER SPOKE..." But "A VOICE" from heaven!Read it!
neronei 3 years ago
Mat 3:17And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased." Lets use common sense....who else would this my son whom i'm well pleased..please explain your way out of this..
chrismichael1 3 years ago
In Luke 1:35 it clearly states that"...The HOLY GHOST shall come upon thee, and THE POWER OF THE HIGHEST shall overshadow thee:therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."The Father of Jesus therefore is the HOLY SPIRIT THAT IS GOD.Jn.2:24.He made Himself flesh and whilst being in flesh,He was God Almighty in Spirit,whom spoke to and sent John.The baptism was to reveal Messiah to John.Jn.1:33
neronei 3 years ago
John 2:2424But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all men....This verse does what for your point..when you can answer who the voice was in Mat 3 that said this is my son whom i'm well pleased, then we can finish the conversation other than that stop wasting time.
chrismichael1 3 years ago
I will repeat it all again.The Father of the Man Jesus is The Holy Spirit Lk.1:35.When Jesus was baptised,the VOICE that spoke from heaven was the SPIRIT of GOD HIS FATHER.The same SPIRIT of His Body.God who is SPIRIT can speak through the mouth of Jesus and the Spirit at the same time.The dove that John saw upon Jesus,was to indicate to John the Man IN which the Holy Spirit lived,for the Holy Spirit is not a dove,but this was a sign to John.Only John saw the vision Jn.1:33
Read also Jm.2:26
neronei 3 years ago
THE SECOND PART is what you have to answer me.
neronei 3 years ago
It says clearly that the WORD OF GOD came to John in the desert!Lk.3:2!But in terms of the Trinity the Word of God had already made itself flesh!God whom is a Spirit(Jn.2:24),is He that SPOKE TO AND SENT JOHN!There is no denying scriptures!You count three substances there are only TWO, the body(Jesus the man)and His Spirit(the Spirit of God)Jm.2:26.
neronei 3 years ago
It is Jesus that came to John and not John that was sent to Jesus!
neronei 3 years ago
If the Word of God is Jesus, John 1:14...So your point is exactly what....Jesus is the word, he is also the son..ok the Son of God came to John, then who is the Father? He's the son of somebody, who is it? Lets use common sense.
chrismichael1 3 years ago
I'll repeat it again.If Jesus is the Word of God,and by Word of God it means the audible sounding Word of He that is God,then in terms of the trinity,the so called Father and Holy Spirit,that are 2 distinct and seperated individual persons,should at that piont be MUTE.But We see that a VOICE spoke from heaven.How could this be seeing that the Word of God,the other discinct and seperated individual person of the trinity, was flesh on the earth!This Word of God is He that sent appionted John.
neronei 3 years ago
Why would they need to be mute, you are not making sense...the voice from Heaven was who? When you can answer that with actual scripture then respond, otherwise you are wasting my time.
chrismichael1 3 years ago
No one wants to waste your time.I am trying to explain as clearly and detailed as possibile this revealation.
neronei 3 years ago
I said this in terms of the trinitarian doctrine,that if that situation a rose,that would mean that the other 2 should be mute,because Jesus was the Word of God on the earth,and we should not even hear the Voice from heaven.
neronei 3 years ago
The SPIRIT of Jesus which is at the same time the SPIRIT of GOD is the VOICE that spoke from heaven in that moment.
neronei 3 years ago
there are many ways to change scriptures. Sorry for you.
yesGodknows 3 years ago
You are right in saying that there are many ways to change the scriptures, the TRINITY is the best example of this type of manipulation!Be only sorry for yourself and others that follow this doctrine because you still cannot prove the baptisim or teaching of the TRINITY in any part of the New Test. seeing that you all say it is a teaching of the Apostles!Instead it is conceived and upheld by greek philosophy and not by THE WORD OF GOD through saints filled with the HOLY SPIRIT!
neronei 3 years ago
Can anyone in this entire world find me one example in the Bible where the Apostles baptize in the titles?
BrotherMurray 3 years ago
And can any one find a chapter where any apostle describes and explains the TRINITY seeing that it is of an outmost and obvious TRUTH. Who better than the ones that saw,spoke and touched the living temple of God (1Jn.1:1-5).If they did not write in a very distinguished meaning that expains the seperation and distinction of the three persons or rather Gods,then it does not exist!
neronei 3 years ago
Furthermore, I have yet to see a Trinitarian present an argument based solely on scripture. The arguments are not only permeated with tradition, but emotionalism. Somehow people believe that God is happy with 25k denominations with ONE book.
BrotherMurray 3 years ago
Witchcraft! Jesus talking to Himself! Study what the 'one' means in Hebrew in Deuteronomy 6:4.
drl15son 3 years ago
neronei 3 years ago
I never meant witchcraft was the meaning of one. Echad is a compound unity as it is used in that verse. Your 'free will' is not willing to see the error you made. I had a free will of pride and I did something about it. Just why is it that whenever someone message you and others of your beliefs, you answer back with a prideful and more holy than you comment? We don't message you to put you down, but to uplift you. That is the mark of a true Christian.
God bless,
drl15son 3 years ago
God hates pride. Who got kicked out of Haven because of pride?
drl15son 3 years ago
Why do you belivers of the TRINITY always belive to have the out right truth when you can never PROVE anything with outright proof knowing that all your understanding is based on an interpretion compelled by tradition and not revelation?If your eyes are shut due to unbelive and dogmas which refutes at all costs the profound understanding of JESUS,then pray!But having an historic standing point based on the Nicean council of 325 AD,you all take a LEGALISTIC standing point on others.
neronei 3 years ago
Jesus recognized the difference between him and his father, and the difference with the Holy Ghost, though these three are One. You must recognize these three are One. Not just the word One, but too the word three.
Jesus, my Master said: go, preach, baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. He recognized there is difference though they are one.
yesGodknows 3 years ago
YesGodknows, the Apostles heard that same command and baptized in Jesus name. If you say that there method is wrong, you claim two things:
-You claim that the Apostles, authors of the New Testament, blatantly disobeyed Jesus.
-You claim to have a better understanding of what Jesus commanded than the people he personally tutored for three and a half years
HISTORY shows that the Triune baptism was foreign to this world a LONG time after Pentecost. A LONG time.
BrotherMurray 3 years ago
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Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
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@drl15son ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
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@neronei ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
The major question between Oneness and Trinitarians is. Is there one Being or Deity in heaven? Yes its appearant that the Father and the Son are distinct (i.e. Eternal Spirit Creator vs. The Decendant of David born from Mary's womb). Trinitarians appear to claim that so called "God the Son" is currently in heaven sitting on his Father's right hand. Almost like a Junior God sitting on God Senior's hand, that would make two Gods in light of the scriptures reinerating that God is ONE.
authentic76 3 years ago
Jesus clearly says in Matt.26:64"...Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of POWER..."(also in Mk.14:62).The right side of God means He received all the power and magesty of God, to dwell in Him,the temple of God (Spirit)[Jn.4:24]forever more.This is confirmed in Matt.28.17,Col.1:19+2:9,Rev.21:22-23.There is only one throne in heaven, explained by Jesus in Rev.3:21.One throne,One God!
neronei 3 years ago
Thank you, i agree 100%!
authentic76 3 years ago
If Jesus is God the Father. That means that man has actually seen God the Father, but i thought in 1 John 4:12 says No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
chrismichael1 3 years ago
It realy says no one has seen "GOD",not God the Father(Jn.1:18).Jesus says that God is Spirit(JN.2:24),therefore Jesus is the Temple that permanently houses the Spirit of God,His own Spirit.When He walked on the earth in perfection of God,He was spiritualy biulding this Temple,so we could see Him as a man.But when He was glorified,receiving the fullness of God(Mtt.26:64;28:17),then those that are not of His Spirit are blinded and overcome by His Power and Splendor,as with Saul.Acts.9:3+8;22:6.
neronei 3 years ago
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@authentic76 ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
mark 13:32, read it,
not even the son knows, so how can they be exactly one? study the bible and you will see God gave his SON
cratgo 3 years ago
This statement has to be read in context.If we go back abit to V26, the subject matter is the return of the Son of Man.The "Son" therefore refers to this context.When He speaks of the Son of Man,He means he that is born and generated of man.
neronei 3 years ago
Therefore this refers to the creature of Man and not to the Son of God.For it says "nor the angels nor the Son",as if to say no creature knows the hour except GOD alone.
neronei 3 years ago
God has called many prophets SON OF MAN brefering to them as generated of man.Eze.2:1(and throughout the book),Dan.8:17.
neronei 3 years ago
But if you look into the Greek text in Mark13:32 and Matt.24:36,there is no word for "MAN".
neronei 3 years ago
The translators have translated the Greek word "oudeis" meaning "no one" as "no MAN". If you use the Greek word for Man this would be "anthropos". This makes a great difference.
neronei 3 years ago
There are more than 200 texts in NT where the Father is clearly a different subject-individual than the Son. Make your own research and you will find it. Don´t repeat what others have said to you. find and know it by yourself. I challenge you.
yesGodknows 3 years ago
I have read the whole bible by MYSELF and with no ELDER, or a traditional SPOON FED doctrine, as is the TRINITY as guidance. JESUS says clearly that He is God the Father in flesh and blood.Jn 14:9;Col 1:15,1Tim 3:16;Rm 9:5; 1Jn 5:20.
neronei 3 years ago
I have read Bible too, and Jesus never said: "I am the Father". If you want to know why Jesus is Father, it is-everlasting Father, just read Hebr 2:8-13. "..In bringing many sons to glory... "Here am I, and the children God as given me".. Who gave him sons? God, of course, his father. I challenge you to read again NT and underline every single time Jesus is clearly other individual-subject-person than his Father. Is not greek philosop... is the way holy men of God wrote that.
yesGodknows 3 years ago
Jesus does say he is the FATHER.John 14:8-9"Philip saith unto him,Lord,shew us the Father,and it sufficeth us.Jesus saith unto him,Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast THOU HAST NOT KNOWN ME,Philip? he that hath seen ME hath SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us THE FATHER?".In Hebr.2:8-13 this said after He was glorified, but in John 14:8-9, this is said before being glorified, so He really means that He is the Father as omnipotent God in FLESH.Isa 9:6.
neronei 3 years ago
In Heb.2:8-13,If God gives Jesus sons He can be called FATHER, but is a keeper or baby sitter!!!Father means to generate not keep.But as Jesus says GOD is SPIRIT!!!Jn 4:24.Jesus was the man but His Spirit was GOD THE FATHER!So the distinction of the two is clear but the being is ONE.But the man(flesh) is alive by the SPIRIT.The men you speak of were students of Greek philosophy.Look inmto it!!
neronei 3 years ago
I don't follow a Greek PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT translated into Christianity, but the God of Israel.1Jn 2:27.You have to understand the FUNCTION and the MEANING of these TITLES. In James 2:26 it says "For as the BODY without the SPIRIT is dead.We are only 2 substances Spirit and Body. This is what Jesus the Son of God was; His Spirit was GOD in full, while being fully MAN in flesh. Phil. 2:5-9,1Tim.2:5,Col2:9,Rev.21:22-23.This is the Name of Jesus Isa 9:6, Mat.28:19,Acts.4:12.
Yeshua Bless You.
neronei 3 years ago
according to Phil 2:5-9: Christ Jesus.. being in the form of God.. Doesn´t say being the Father. Did not consider equality with God.. equality include 2 or more in comparison.. therefore God exalted him.. Who did exalt him? God, it means his Father.. and gave him-who gave him something? God-his Father. And remember.. and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. again.. to the glory of God the Father.. is it greek philoso.. Is common sense. diff subjects.
yesGodknows 3 years ago
Yes but in 1Tim 2:5"For there is ONE God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus" This is the form the IMAGE, that is the BODY which is the house, TEMPLE of GOD, which Jesus under full obedience to GOD, BIULT!This is what GOD has exalted, THE BODY, as seen in Revelations 5:6 + 21:23.Not a completly distinct man with a human spirit and body.This BODY was generated by GOD THE SPIRIT, therefore GOD SPIRIT is the Father that has generated the man JESUS!!!Mat.1:24,Luk.1:35!!
neronei 3 years ago
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@yesGodknows ISAIAH SAW JESUS AS YHWH BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON
Isaiah 6:1
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple
John 12:41 These things said Esaias,when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Micah 5:2B Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,yet out of thee shall HE come forth UNTO ME that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been FROM OF OLD, from EVERLASTING
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
neronei and yesGodknows can you talk sometimes by your mouth or you have only to repeat what is write in the bible? Can you think by yourself or you need to read what to do in the holy text? i try to read bible, but sincerely is too much, milions of NONSENSE words! :[
JayBamBhole 3 years ago
Well JayBamBhole the things in the Bible are CLEAR for all those that belive and love God, for the bible has being written in a very simple language for anyone to understand.The bible explains it's self.If you don't understand it, it's because it is MADNES for you, because you don't belive or love God, and therefore you do not have any hope in Him.But I asure you that He is alive, according to what is written!Jesus bless you!
neronei 3 years ago