Anyone got the difference from the Wagoneer that had two headlights on each side, and the one, that had only one but bigger ? Usually only the Cherokee had one, but the Wagoneer had two slightl smaller ones. Please help me out on this one. Thanks.
You guys complaining about the MPG. I agree they probably didn't get up into the 30's but there's so much tied into this. The fuel mixture has changed through the years, the engine displacement and design has changed as well. Let's not forget, the EPA created a test in the 60's or 70's to determine MPG. It wasn't updated until last year as noted on their site, which explains why all cars suddenly lost 5-15mpg on their stickers.
The early Cherokee/Wagoneer was available with a turbodiesel and a 5 speed manual, I've only ever seen one and I'm pretty much a Cherokee whore, but they do exist and they did get damn good gas mileage, well up into the 30's on the highway. It's a shame that US automakers aren't putting more small diesels in cars, they're so much more efficient than gasoline engines.
What I find disgusting is Ford will sell Rangers in Japan with Turbo Diesels, but they don't meet "Emission" standards here in the US.. 2 words... Bull... and Shit.
@Magnuspire you obviously have no clue then that the US emissons standers espcialy on diesels are thougher then just about every other place in the world including Europe.
@americancarguy That's funny, I have no idea about US emissions but you just repeated what I said. Our EPA felt the need to put a DPF and a EGR on a 6.7L cummins diesel for emissions reasons but it's ok to not have it on the 5.9L?
It's all about whatever puts more money in their pockets, not what "saves" the environment. I just think it's retarded that Japan can have a diesel ranger, yet they are considered to have higher Emissions standards, unless you count cali... what a joke.
yes you are right...these were available with a turbo diesel and a 5 speed...i want one so badly....i loved the first generation cherokee/wagonner...i would love to have a 1984-1986 model of cherokee/wagoneer ..i would love to find a 1984-1985 turbo diesel 5 speed....i have seen a few around...there definitely rare!! they didn't sell nearly as well as the standard versions did....thats to bad since if they did then there would be allot more around today. thats cool that you like jeeps so do i
@ryleyf You should be glad you didn't get the Cherokee diesels. They thoroughly suck. And I have first hand experience, I rebuilt a 2.1 TD cherokee engine
@DieselFreak94 I am pretty sure all of them were built US or Canada, even tho the engines were first Renault (2.1, France) and later VM Mottorii (2.5, Italy) - seems they shipped the engines to America first and then shipped the cars back overseas later? Sounds very stupid, but that's what all the info I can find say, including the plant location in the VIN numbers.
@Amund7 Thanks man. I appreaciate that. I have never seen one in my time and I've been a Jeep guy for a while, but I heard of Renault engines. I do think you are correct though. Again, thanks alot, I appreciate it.
Yeah, they sure don't sound right. I don't think the EPA test procedure changed from 84 to 85 (the earliest year on the web site)...did the Wagoneer lose 9 mpg from 84 to 85? I don't think so. Jeep lied.
But yeah, it is kind of pathetic that fuel economy has remained stagnant (or in the case of small cars, declined). It's rising NOW, but I'm pretty sure that's because power output has stopped rising for most cars in the last few years.
What a degrading jeep this was
leprkn01 4 weeks ago
HA Fucken Liars! 34 EST HWY at :09 not even close. SUV's now a days don't even get that. Especially not the American Vehicles.
counkev 9 months ago
@counkev yA,but for some buttfucked reason, milage in vehicles has gone up since then
ringapowa9000 6 months ago
12 Yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American Pride!
Fiki2k7 9 months ago
AMC's gotta love 'em.
SecularTechnology 9 months ago
Anyone got the difference from the Wagoneer that had two headlights on each side, and the one, that had only one but bigger ? Usually only the Cherokee had one, but the Wagoneer had two slightl smaller ones. Please help me out on this one. Thanks.
DJHcom 1 year ago
34 mpg?
harrygoonix 2 years ago
it looks likes an old cheerokee
pugsrkool 2 years ago
I got about 21mpg with my old 92 XJ which had an I6 "High Output". That is... until I started the mods, then it hauled butt and got 8mpg.
Magnuspire 3 years ago
You guys complaining about the MPG. I agree they probably didn't get up into the 30's but there's so much tied into this. The fuel mixture has changed through the years, the engine displacement and design has changed as well. Let's not forget, the EPA created a test in the 60's or 70's to determine MPG. It wasn't updated until last year as noted on their site, which explains why all cars suddenly lost 5-15mpg on their stickers.
Magnuspire 3 years ago
The early Cherokee/Wagoneer was available with a turbodiesel and a 5 speed manual, I've only ever seen one and I'm pretty much a Cherokee whore, but they do exist and they did get damn good gas mileage, well up into the 30's on the highway. It's a shame that US automakers aren't putting more small diesels in cars, they're so much more efficient than gasoline engines.
ryleyf 3 years ago 3
What I find disgusting is Ford will sell Rangers in Japan with Turbo Diesels, but they don't meet "Emission" standards here in the US.. 2 words... Bull... and Shit.
Magnuspire 3 years ago 6
@Magnuspire you obviously have no clue then that the US emissons standers espcialy on diesels are thougher then just about every other place in the world including Europe.
americancarguy 1 year ago
@americancarguy That's funny, I have no idea about US emissions but you just repeated what I said. Our EPA felt the need to put a DPF and a EGR on a 6.7L cummins diesel for emissions reasons but it's ok to not have it on the 5.9L?
It's all about whatever puts more money in their pockets, not what "saves" the environment. I just think it's retarded that Japan can have a diesel ranger, yet they are considered to have higher Emissions standards, unless you count cali... what a joke.
Magnuspire 1 year ago
yes you are right...these were available with a turbo diesel and a 5 speed...i want one so badly....i loved the first generation cherokee/wagonner...i would love to have a 1984-1986 model of cherokee/wagoneer ..i would love to find a 1984-1985 turbo diesel 5 speed....i have seen a few around...there definitely rare!! they didn't sell nearly as well as the standard versions did....thats to bad since if they did then there would be allot more around today. thats cool that you like jeeps so do i
jakesaintsrow123 1 year ago
@ryleyf You should be glad you didn't get the Cherokee diesels. They thoroughly suck. And I have first hand experience, I rebuilt a 2.1 TD cherokee engine
Amund7 1 year ago
@Amund7 Did they ever make those deisels in the U.S.? Some say yes and others say no. I have never seen one.
DieselFreak94 1 year ago
@DieselFreak94 I am pretty sure all of them were built US or Canada, even tho the engines were first Renault (2.1, France) and later VM Mottorii (2.5, Italy) - seems they shipped the engines to America first and then shipped the cars back overseas later? Sounds very stupid, but that's what all the info I can find say, including the plant location in the VIN numbers.
Amund7 1 year ago
@DieselFreak94 PS. I think they were sold a lot in Canada with diesels.
Amund7 1 year ago
@Amund7 Thanks man. I appreaciate that. I have never seen one in my time and I've been a Jeep guy for a while, but I heard of Renault engines. I do think you are correct though. Again, thanks alot, I appreciate it.
DieselFreak94 1 year ago
why is it that SUVs of the 08's got way better MPG than today's suvs?!
TamiyaRunner 3 years ago
They had ~1/2 the power, and they weighed maybe 3/4 as much.
IanFinnesey 3 years ago 2
It suprises me that todays technology cannot match that of the '80s...even with more weight and power. Even so, the numbers in the vid seem fudged :/
TamiyaRunner 3 years ago
Yeah, they sure don't sound right. I don't think the EPA test procedure changed from 84 to 85 (the earliest year on the web site)...did the Wagoneer lose 9 mpg from 84 to 85? I don't think so. Jeep lied.
But yeah, it is kind of pathetic that fuel economy has remained stagnant (or in the case of small cars, declined). It's rising NOW, but I'm pretty sure that's because power output has stopped rising for most cars in the last few years.
IanFinnesey 3 years ago
Well a 1960 Chevy belair gets the same gas mileage as a new volvo V70, mostly because of unnesessary weight on the volvo.
CDTbossy 2 years ago
those mileage numbers are b.s. this truck gets 15 city 20 highway tops
ESERWACH1 3 years ago
That's not a wagoneer.... it's a cherokee with fake wood stuck to it!!!!
streetvan1 3 years ago
umm wagoneers have fake wood stuck to it also, and that is a wagoneer its one of the later models.
NCNC08 3 years ago
This was sold next to a real wagoneer... it's a cherokee with wood. The wagoneer was much much more than just fake wood.
streetvan1 3 years ago
oh its a wagoneer they ran them til '90 then replaced it with the wannabe wagoneer the cherokee briarwood....i love my wagoneer
1989XJ 3 years ago
i have one of these xj wagoneers and i love it
jaxes88 3 years ago
I'm surprised there was no mention of Renault in this advert.
runforit420 3 years ago
verrgaaaaa ta pavo el video
Terminatort1007 3 years ago
awsome
K0tt0nm0uthQueen 4 years ago