Again... Doesn't Wal-Mart pay more starting out on average than most fast food jobs? And doesn't that gals shirt make fun of the hundreds of millions of people that shop at wal-mart? I bet only one percent or less are the stereotype they portray. Everyone knows those kind of people don't shop at Wal-Mart until after midnight...
@OCPios62 Apple provides people overseas with housing, a steady income, and some benefits. None of the people they employ are slave laborers. I have to say thats a pretty good deal.
@psiewert83 You haven't paid attention then recently. Journalists and investigators have gone to China to tour the factories and the people working there are miserable; many by their own confession. People go to lengths of throwing themselves off the roof due to the never ending shifts etc; it's so bad that the factory installed nets just below the roof-line to catch would-be jumpers. Yeah, it's just PEACHY there.
@OCPios62 I think you're poorly misinformed. Those suicides were not due to slave labor they were because the workers wanted more pay and less hours. Instead of quitting like a normal sane person they decided to commit suicide as an example. I used to work for a Chinese metal manufacturer. Our workers made 9 RMB an hour. About $1.25 back then. At the same time we provided free food and housing. We had workers quit when it was tough, they knew they could leave when they wanted. Its simple.
@psiewert83 The point is each corporation with manufacturing overseas treats their workers differently. Just because Walmart and your metal manufacturing treated you well does not mean they all do. Apple had documented cases, recent cases, of horrible conditions for their Chinese workers.
@OCPios62 Once again the simple FACT is that these people can leave the company to work somewhere else. If they pay is too low in their eyes, instead of committing suicide like a pathetic waste of space, they should go get another job. It's like someone committing suicide cause Facebook changes their profile format. If you dont like it, leave. No one is forcing you.
@psiewert83 You make it sound like jobs are a dime a dozen in China. People are in fact forced because there are so few jobs to go around. Conditions are not great at these places and no worker unions exist to improve them; they are at the whim of Apple and Foxconn. Working 12hr shifts with only a 2hr break which includes being allowed to eat. People end up living in dorms near the factory in small rooms, 7 people to each room. "Get a new job" is not so simple in these parts of China.
@OCPios62 You obviously have never been to China. So let me clear up your understanding. 1) In Dongguan (one of the largest manufacturing densities in China) it is mandatory by law that employers provide free housing. Our facilities were 4 people per apartment. They had community living spaces, 2 bedrooms, kitchen, and 2 bathrooms. 2) During large Chinese holidays a large population of employees never come back because they get new jobs or go home to work on farms.
@OCPios62 3) Chinese custom is to work longer days than hours yes, but it's popular to have a 1 hour lunch (provided free from the employer) and a 1 hour nap time immediately after. Also depending on shift times most companies also provide free dinners. 4) We were always desperately looking for more workers. Tons of jobs available. You just hear about it now in the news cause Chinese see how good we have it in America and they're jealous. They want shit for free without progress.
Penn and Teller are WAY off on this one. Walmart exploits the poor around the world. They dont offer them a way out of poverty. They EXPLOIT poverty! The Waltons can afford to pay every employee and every overseas laborer a wage that DOES lift them out of poverty, but instead pay the bare minimum and hoard vast amounts of wealth like the greedy pig fux they are.
There is more to the sweatshop story than low wages? The thing with that, people seem to compare that to Western world wages... not to the actual cost of living where the "sweatshops" are. For all I know from what antisweatshop people say, they could be clearing the cost of living more easily than I do(which is to say, clearing it at all)
Yes, the people who make those shirts are obnoxious assholes.
But look at the real issue:
Instead of encouraging these children to work in their sweatshops, shouldn't wealthier countries like the U.S be doing something to help these third world countries progress to the point where their kids won't have to work in fucking sweat shops? Oh no, of course not, because then there wouldn't be a way for wal-mart to cheaply produce their goods. Hmmmm... See where this is going?
@shrikechan The US is always helping third world countries. Japan helps themselves, guess who's the next super power. We bailed everyone else out, are they gonna do the same for us?
Wal-mart is great. I always get better services compared to Target and Kmart. I like the wide spacing and high roofing, unlike some main street stores.
@guineapiggyman If i had to choose between wal-mart or other other stores i would choose wal-mart given that most of their managers were once lowly workers.
My mom, worked at Walmart for years and still works there. I worked in Walmart while I was getting my college degree and I still shop there every week. If it wasn't for Walmart, I would have been dirt poor as a child, and I would be 1000s more in student debt. I LOVE WALMART.
The joke is on them, Hitler DESPISED big box retailers, back then they were warehouses but considered the same thing in premise. He was for small business ONLY.
We may not have a union at Walmart, but we're treated well, everyone is paid at least a little over minimum wage, and we get sweet blue vests. Those fags in the T-shirts probably bought those pants from Walmart anyhow.
@LemonPopsiclez I think it depends much on which country it is, I don't know about America either, but in Sweden, unioons work just fine without strikes
how could one justify comparing a wal-mart worker with a nazi? I mean, there is a difference between making a point, and making light of one of the worst things ever in human history. One small step for inbreed hate mongers, and one giant leap backward for the progression of man kind. =(
Hold on . so because i go to the third world where I know wages are shit and thus I can afford to pay shit ( but a little bit more ) I become the good guy ?
@weldon29 True but if walmart wants a pass for using these people as labour ( for me ) they would have to be paying a lot more than the locals usually make and investing some money back into these countries , otherwise ( IMO) they are simply taking advantage of a county being poor. And thats not something that deserves praise.
@Govanmauler According to the person in the video, he did mention that the pay for their workers are higher than the average income in those countries. While they do take advantage of the people living in poor countries, they do indirectly help out the people there as well. Also, I'm not sure if anyone really praises what they are doing, I think not accusing them of being an evil organization is what Penn is really trying to get across.
@weldon29 Granted , I would agree they are no more " evil " than 90% of the large multinationals out there , however as the show says the lower middle / working classes of the west are the people benefiting from the cheap goods being sold , it must be pointed out that outsourcing to cheap foreign labour is what hurts these people in the first place.
Walmart makes things easier for poor people ? I say Walmart makes it easier to create poor people (who then can only afford to shop at wlamart)
Aluminum cans put the Tin Can people out of business. The PC put the Typewriter people out of business. The calculator put the slide rule people out of business. IT'S CALLED PROGRESS!!!!!
@ghostofandy Wal-Mart is progress in terms of their inventory and shipping methods. Although they rule over their manufacturer's with an iron fist because they are so big. Wal-Mart is progress in terms of how they use cutting-edge technology. Wal-Mart IS NOT PROGRESS in terms of how they treat their employees. It is a fact that most Wal-Mart cashiers are part-time because full-time would require benefits and such. You want an ethical progressive company? Look at Costco. Study up. I did in school
It's so horrible there that millions of people voluntarily choose to work there, and mllions frequent the store every week. And those manufacturers? They're so coerced, so strictly ruled that they can just stop promising to ship more goods at any time, with no fear of retribution. Why, the contracts they have at any one time probably have release clauses.
Producers constantly try to pay less for the same things. When they succeed, they're able to offer cheaper goods to -
- consumers. That's what economic growth is, and that's progress. Hiring two part-time workers for less than one full-time worker is very much an innovation, even if it's only in compliance to the arbitrary and wasteful demands of the state, and it makes society a little more prosperous.
The president of the local food and commercial workers union that they show @7:45 is Ronald E. Powell of Local 881. The second in command of that union is none other than his son Steven M. Powell. These two people are far more evil than Wal-Mart could ever be. They take money from your check every week and do little to nothing for you in return. The grocery stores are not afraid of these unions like they should be, the unions are paid off by them to do their bidding.
I can't beleive that ugly bitch selling the T-shirts thought that she could make fun of other people like that. She needs to take a look in the mirror! Whats up with that hair cut?
Okay this episode I see where Penn n Teller are coming from, a lot of the Walmart hate is BS and overhyped, but some of their debunking isn't completely valid. i.e.: "When labor costs go up, it gets passed onto the consumers" true. But those costs could've been taken out of Corporate's big bonuses. But like any other giant, Walmart says "fuck all of America, I want my money!" And the argument "yeah sweatshops are horrible, but marginally better than alternatives is great in comparison!" is WEAK.
@ONIProductionsLtd How the hell is that a weak argument? It's factually correct. In most cases, sweatshops are objectively better than the alternative. How is that in any way bad or immoral? What would you suggest as an alternative?
@ONIProductionsLtd How the hell is that a weak argument? It's factually correct. In most cases, sweatshops are objectively better than the alternative. How is that in any way bad or immoral? What would you suggest as an alternative?
@ONIProductionsLtd How the hell is that a weak argument? It's factually correct. In most cases, sweatshops are objectively better than the alternative. How is that in any way bad or immoral? What would you suggest as an alternative?
Wal-Mart isn't really cheap. My family spends over $100 on a weeks worth of groceries. The small, high-quality markets are even higher priced but look less ugly. If you are so inclined to take down wal-mart, don't buy anything there...simple. It's the consumers fault in the end for making a corp. as big as it is.
@quidnick I know right? There are so many stores in my neighborhood that 1) Are cleaner than WM 2) Actually train their workers well so they can help me with my purchases 3) Are much, much cheaper than WM and 4) Have better quality produce and deli. I hardly ever shop at WM and we used to have two in our town but one shut its doors because it couldn't make any money!
I used to work in the meatcutters union when I worked in a deli. It's fucking bullshit. They barely do anything for you, yet I had to give em $40 a month for my union dues. I fuckin hate unions, they don't do any good anymore.
I, personally, am glad Walmart is non-union. I believe Unions have served their purpose. Before them, wages were terrible and work conditions were nightmarish. Their initial appearance gave rise to safety and heath standards that gave us the quality of work and life we have today... but now it's all really about greed and putting money in their wallets with slanderous claims and governmental connections. Thanks a lot unions. You did us working class folks a favor... now please step down.
@SolomonAros plus if walmart unionized today, all the benifits that the older employes have saved up will disapear because everything will have to be redone. its ok that walmart does this. if you really want to make more money, you should have gone to college and finished school. am i wrong?
@jdizzle3600 Funny thing about that college bit... It's a fallacy that as soon as you get a degree, you get a good job or career. I washed dishes at a bar with a man who got his Masters in Social Science and Worked in a factory with an older gentleman who has a doctorate in mathematics. Over-qualification is a problem in the working world. That aside, I didn't include all the points there are on the union matter since there is a text limit on comments x'3
@SolomonAros right about that over qualification. its just a way for companies to say we dont want to pay you this much money because you know what your doing. lol.
@SolomonAros Over-qualification is bullshit, you'll never see it in the working world. It does exist in Academia, where the pay-scale is often based on qualifications. No hospitals turn away doctors, but many third rate universities will. That being said, a college degree is not a job ticket, you're right. (But it is basically never a detrimental asset)
@shimauma Over-qualification exists and is quite a problem in the current job market. There are a set number of jobs and when a company has a choice between a high school graduate that qualifies and probably won't have many more options and someone with a degree that will probably be actively searching for something new, guess what? They'll chose the high school graduate. That, my friend, is being denied due to over-qualification.
@jenntegt That is what is meant by the words, but it is a fiction. Companies are sympathetic to those with fewer options, they want only the best applicant. That is capitalism, and in the real world nobody shuns the better qualified candidate (despite the boring excuses of the unemployed).
I like how everyone says they sell cheap shit made in China. Well most of the cheap shit cost twice as much elsewhere. That's all I see for sale anymore I like seeing people protesting we don't want wal-mart in our town well then why is the store always packed i've even saw hippies shopping there. I like Wal-mart and Target and I give no apologies for that.
Sweat shops, you can thank Bill Clinton for those, he's the dick who sent our jobs over seas. They are not far from slaves, its called indentured servitude.
These dumbass people who call themselves Democrats have soiled the Democrat and Liberal name, they actually believe in Socialism or Communism. A Democrat is for Democracy, Democracy is freedom, not socialism. I dropped out of high school and I could tell these fuckasses this. Idiots, the lot of them.
No matter what people think of Wal Mart, we all know it's not going anywhere anytime soon. It's convenient and the prices are very good. (and no, I don't care if that's because of sweatshops). In fact, I'm going tonight to buy some shit. I'm not ashamed of shopping there.
I live in a relatively small (even by our standards) British city. A few years ago a company called Westfield started building a mall. Naturally, local assholes complained.
It's been finished for some time now, and guess what? IT'S FUCKING AWESOME. There's tons of different stores and leisure activities all in one place. Sure a couple of old shops went out of business, but that's because consumers preferred the new mall, not because the mall forced us to use it instead of small shops!
These two spastics need to get a life. I work in a supermarket - that means I'm a monkey??? I have a BSc for fucks sake! Many well qualified people are forced to work in retail due to the lack of jobs and retail isn't as easy as these two dickheads make it out to be. It's frankly insulting and looking at these two... well if I'm a monkey these two are pond scum. Who would have children with her? And you can tell he's never been laid in his shitty life. Fuck both of you, you assholes.
8:37 Are you fucking kidding me? These people are sick retards who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. Yeah I dislike the redneck welfare abusers as much as the next guy but WalMart is not causing people to be that way. Those two people even look like the classic welfare abusing rednecks. And you know whats funny? Someone I know bought that Anti-Walmart movie, at Walmart, and guess what? It was the cheapest fuckin movie they had!
I love Walmart!! They give me the best prices for a decent product. These two t-shirt pasting motherfuckers will soon be out of business and will probably apply for a job at Walmart out of desperation!! The old people at Walmart are retired and they are keeping themselves busy. Good for them. Show some respect toward them you cock-sucking inbreds. Let's see if you can even make it to that age, let alone volunteer for work. Fuck small businesses, their service and prices are shit!! Walmart rocks!
Everyone knows that labor unions are useless and cause more damage to a company than try to improve it. They make impossible demands on companies, when they don't realize that companies have to work with what they got in order to employ their workers and stay afloat.
Look at professor Powell ruin his name and career before he even has one. What a douche! Only a douche would say that a sweat shop job is better than not having a job at all. Actually defending unfair work practices, because without shit treatment from a shit American company so fat shit American people can buy shit products that are degrading our manufacturing base, these third world employees would be worse off???? AMAZING ECONOMICS! YEA PROFESSOR POWELL!
repeal the income tax, repeal corporate taxes and it will make the small business men more competitive, its the socialism/fascism that is making Wal-mart so big. Wal-Mart has the expensive tax attorneys who can find the loopholes while the small business man pays a higher percentage, lower the taxes across the board and get the US out of all the intergovernmental trade programs, if its really free trade u dont need the gov't involved.
@ShatterNWO So what? Walmart pays even less because the loopholes haven't been closed and your country is even worse off because the government has less money to run essential services?
Because the whole lower taxes pay for themselves thing is bullshit, and so is the free market.
@TrueMetis what essential services? we could easily cut military spending by 3/4's, we just couldn't police the world, we could end the war on drugs, stop paying ppl not to work. Then tax cuts could pay for themselves if u cut spending. Free Market is not bullshit, its economic freedom which has led to innovation that has drastically improved the standard of living of billions of ppl across the world.
@ShatterNWO First off you said cut income and corporate tax rates, which would hugely decrease the money your government has. You couldn't just take that out of the US military budget because then you'd have to deal with a half million more unemployed people all taking unemployment benefits and other social services causing the cost of the social services to skyrocket. Costing more money from a budget you just fucked up. And really it's cute that you think it's the corporate tax rate (cont)
@TrueMetis (cont) because the US already has one of the lowest tax rates in the world. It doesn't matter if you decrease that to zero, you will never compete with the 50 cent and hour labour they can get in the third world. Which is why corporations are doing so well.
As for innovation, that wasn't the free market, most of the really important shit was funded by government. You know like clean water, electricity, food, you know the stuff that really increase the standard of Living.
@TrueMetis The gov't shouldn't be giving unemployment benefits. Like I said, cut spending. With ur logic the gov't should start more wars to take care of the currently unemployed. It's a little insulting that u think all of those military ppl would turn into welfare queens, rather than get jobs and start their own businesses which of course would create more jobs, which would actually mean more revenue as long as the incentives were in place. But paying ppl not to work compounds the problem.
@ShatterNWO No western government doesn't give out unemployment any government that did would quickly cease to exist. And no I don't think the all the military people no longer working for the military would be able to get jobs at this time, I mean have you looked at unemployment? And no they would't be able to start a business. Cause in order to start a business you need A) Capital B) an idea) C) demand for whatever you idea is. If that was easy there would be a lot more start up's (cont)
@TrueMetis (cont) and less small businesses would fail early on. At his point in time the ideas you advocate would fuck up not only the US but the entire world economy. The only place this would work is in your mind, in that sense it is similar to the free market.
@TrueMetis How would the government cease to exist, once ppl stop getting their unemployment checks they start looking for work, some get work and some don't. If the government stopped practicing Keynesianism and respected the free market, the unemployment problem would cure itself in 2 years tops. But in ur world the government should start wars and pointless programs just to employ ppl, no matter how wasteful and destructive the jobs may be.
@ShatterNWO That would require there to be, you know, jobs available. Which for the most part there isn't, even though many corporations are making tons of money. You realize that you are still just blabbing and not actually coming up with a real solution. The government would cease to exist because well it's a fucking democracy and anyone who had anything to do with ending welfare would quickly find themselves out of office because of the millions of people they just pissed off.
@TrueMetis Well its not a democracy, its a republic. I've been saying reduce taxes across the board which will decrease businesses operating cost and allow them to higher more ppl and end the wars, war on drugs, and pointless federal beauracratic agencies to solve the debt crisis. As a libertarian anarchist i wouldn't be crying if the government ended, but it probly wouldn't if u got rid of all the welfare.(corporate also) Sure there would be pissed off ppl, but being pissed doesnt pay bills.
@ShatterNWO First off a Republic is a type of democracy, second most corporations make plenty of money and still aren't hiring, doesn't matter how much you lower your already really low tax rate, demand won't increase so they won't need more employees. So we are back to once again anyone responsible for the ending of welfare being kicked out of office.
@TrueMetis I think the distinction between a pure deomacry and republic is important, we have a republic with a representative democracy. Ur talking about the mega corps. who for the most part don't pay that many taxes. But small businesses pay a higher percentage cus they can't take advantage of the loopholes. So this would strengthen struggling small businesses and make it easier for ppl to start their own. Ur right, ppl would get kicked out, which is why you'll probly win with ur arguments.
@ShatterNWO You can keep thinking it all you want but lower tax rates will not help small businesses survive. They will however allow larger businesses keep more money because of the aforementioned tax loops, while at the same time not actually higher any more people.
@TrueMetis Of course lower taxes makes it easier on small businesses, it lowers ur operating cost without having to fire any1. I'm completely with u on the large corps. The biggest threat to them is competition, its difficult to compete with them becus they can take advantage of loopholes small businesses can't.
Fucking fat couple calling other people monkeys when they look like tree sloths that move slowly and stupidly gaze into non-existence, fuck these ass wipes.
I live in a town called Niles Michigan, less than 20,000 population. And we have a super wal-mart and a super kick ass little down town. Just throwing in my 2 cents that wal-mart has rocked for our town. I hated going to tiny Greengrocery stores that didn't have jack.
walmart is great especially when we need cheap chinese crap. It doesn't sell quality and doesn't have the best prices in many cases but it has it all under one roof. go walmart! And people wonder why America's balance of trade with China is so bad.
So you just assume Emma Mitts is right, and Joe Moore is wrong? Im from chicago, we dont need more fucking walmarts! My aunt used to own a store that sold womens apparel on the southwest side of chicago. She did really good for many years but all of a sudden the customers just stopped coming in. She eventually closed down unable to compete. Thanks walmart you took my aunts livelihood. No more bullshit! Walmart is bad for America, just like Bush was, just like the fed. All about money.
@joejohanssen But her customers not get the same products for cheaper, and that leaves them more money to spend elsewhere. Some people may be hurt a lot by Wal*Mart, but the overall outcome is positive.
@shamgar001 If you think about it. The lower prices that are offered at walmart, which make it difficult for small business owners to stay open, instead create low paying jobs and eradicate the small business and consequently create a lager divide between lower and middle class. What we see now in america is the disappearance of the middle class but they put it as the disappearance of the lower class. The middle class will be debt slaves and will just corporate ourselves into the lower class.
@SniperViper1000 Yeah ok professor. Do you think that the banks who loaned the money were really looking out for the best interest of the lendee? You cant blame it all on stupid americans OK? We cant all be intolerable wise-asses like you. People got fucked by the banks. Thats what the banks wanted. They didnt care about nothing but your money. But they made it seem like these sort of loans were just fine and dandy. They put all your worries at ease. Predatory lending practices.
@joejohanssen I can't blame them for making money off of stupid people. We shouldn't coddle stupidity.
I *can* blame them for being deceitful, however. I *can* blame them for merrily selling off bad debt while knowing FULL WELL what it would do to the economy, but not caring as long as they can get their millions and run off to the Caymans.
I can blame them for intentionally damaging the economy for their own personal gain.
@syn010110 No, one saw the disaster coming. Everyone knew it has a huge gramble. But no one thought it would escalate to that proprotional size. However, it's over now. The recession is done.
What were they supposed to do. Make a commercial saying "Don't take our loans, they're toxic and government controlled!" -.-' Get a fucknig book and starting learning or better yet. Use google and search up ECONOMICS!
I am better than the people that work at Walmart. If that makes me arrogant of ego-centrical, then so be it. But at then end of the day my life is worth more than some un-educated walmart worker.
@lordlie first off, im putting myself through college by working at wal-mart. So you can go fuck yourself on the un-educated point. We're all human beings no one is better. Why don't you just go walk off a cliff with your hate. trust you'll fall at the same rate I do. Cause were the same ( in that were human, not that im an asshole like you)
@lordlie You aren't better than anyone, shit-stain. This comment proves it. Your an imbecile thats all. Who is your life worth more to? Did your fat whore mommy tell you that?
@lordlie Right. I worked at Wal-Mart for just under a year. If I'm so uneducated, how the hell did I get my high school diploma, join the Army Reserves, serve six months in Afghanistan (and survive to tell the tale) and get my private pilot's license?
It takes a lot more effort than a monkey to do a job like being a cashier or manager at a place like that. You have to remember numbers for produce, you have to know how to use wic checks, and checks, and credit cards. You have to be nice, you have to be able to judge if the person who is returning something isn't fraudulent. You have to receive phone calls and know how to deal with that, etc, etc. A monkey would be too weak, too dumb to do this. I think they're the monkeys! They look it too!
Well tank thats half true but we recuve alit more over seas products then what we maje hell most of are electonics are from china or japan and alot of are cook ware in from india
The liberals in this country make me laugh. They attack Wal-Mart. They chastise everything they do. They employ millions. But the libs want them on welfare. They want them selling crack or meth. They want us that do not work at Wal-Mart but shop there to not have Wal-Mart and pay higher prices for the SAME goods and then pay more taxes to subsidize there welfare benefits. Hey liberal progressives. GO FUCK YOURSELVES YOU MENTALLY ILL FUCKS!!!
FUCK YOU BOTH IN THE FUCKING NECK!!
ghostrider5378 5 days ago
@ghostrider5378 I actually yelled "Damn FUCKING STRAIGHT!" when he said that.
Angaraman 4 days ago
I'd like to see those two Yankee assholes run a register during Christmas.
They'd probably walk out and go back to making propaganda t-shirts.
Spacialvekter 1 week ago
Again... Doesn't Wal-Mart pay more starting out on average than most fast food jobs? And doesn't that gals shirt make fun of the hundreds of millions of people that shop at wal-mart? I bet only one percent or less are the stereotype they portray. Everyone knows those kind of people don't shop at Wal-Mart until after midnight...
rbrtcn06IBO 2 weeks ago
Wal-mart having 'above average' sweatshop labor is interesting. Now if Apple could do that...though unlikely.
OCPios62 2 weeks ago
@OCPios62 Apple provides people overseas with housing, a steady income, and some benefits. None of the people they employ are slave laborers. I have to say thats a pretty good deal.
psiewert83 1 week ago
@psiewert83 You haven't paid attention then recently. Journalists and investigators have gone to China to tour the factories and the people working there are miserable; many by their own confession. People go to lengths of throwing themselves off the roof due to the never ending shifts etc; it's so bad that the factory installed nets just below the roof-line to catch would-be jumpers. Yeah, it's just PEACHY there.
OCPios62 1 week ago
@OCPios62 I think you're poorly misinformed. Those suicides were not due to slave labor they were because the workers wanted more pay and less hours. Instead of quitting like a normal sane person they decided to commit suicide as an example. I used to work for a Chinese metal manufacturer. Our workers made 9 RMB an hour. About $1.25 back then. At the same time we provided free food and housing. We had workers quit when it was tough, they knew they could leave when they wanted. Its simple.
psiewert83 1 week ago
@psiewert83 The point is each corporation with manufacturing overseas treats their workers differently. Just because Walmart and your metal manufacturing treated you well does not mean they all do. Apple had documented cases, recent cases, of horrible conditions for their Chinese workers.
OCPios62 1 week ago
@OCPios62 Once again the simple FACT is that these people can leave the company to work somewhere else. If they pay is too low in their eyes, instead of committing suicide like a pathetic waste of space, they should go get another job. It's like someone committing suicide cause Facebook changes their profile format. If you dont like it, leave. No one is forcing you.
psiewert83 1 week ago
@psiewert83 You make it sound like jobs are a dime a dozen in China. People are in fact forced because there are so few jobs to go around. Conditions are not great at these places and no worker unions exist to improve them; they are at the whim of Apple and Foxconn. Working 12hr shifts with only a 2hr break which includes being allowed to eat. People end up living in dorms near the factory in small rooms, 7 people to each room. "Get a new job" is not so simple in these parts of China.
OCPios62 1 week ago
@OCPios62 You obviously have never been to China. So let me clear up your understanding. 1) In Dongguan (one of the largest manufacturing densities in China) it is mandatory by law that employers provide free housing. Our facilities were 4 people per apartment. They had community living spaces, 2 bedrooms, kitchen, and 2 bathrooms. 2) During large Chinese holidays a large population of employees never come back because they get new jobs or go home to work on farms.
psiewert83 1 week ago
@OCPios62 3) Chinese custom is to work longer days than hours yes, but it's popular to have a 1 hour lunch (provided free from the employer) and a 1 hour nap time immediately after. Also depending on shift times most companies also provide free dinners. 4) We were always desperately looking for more workers. Tons of jobs available. You just hear about it now in the news cause Chinese see how good we have it in America and they're jealous. They want shit for free without progress.
psiewert83 1 week ago
Penn and Teller are WAY off on this one. Walmart exploits the poor around the world. They dont offer them a way out of poverty. They EXPLOIT poverty! The Waltons can afford to pay every employee and every overseas laborer a wage that DOES lift them out of poverty, but instead pay the bare minimum and hoard vast amounts of wealth like the greedy pig fux they are.
boggywoman 3 weeks ago
bethese idiots bought the blank tees from walmart dumb asses
hdmfba2 3 weeks ago
3:35 ITS HOMER SIMPSON
d6ud9e 1 month ago
Those shirts are ugly! And WTF do you two do for work!?
mooglely 1 month ago
@mooglely I take it that they don't.
Raaszhecku 1 month ago
There is more to the sweatshop story than low wages? The thing with that, people seem to compare that to Western world wages... not to the actual cost of living where the "sweatshops" are. For all I know from what antisweatshop people say, they could be clearing the cost of living more easily than I do(which is to say, clearing it at all)
ctraver 1 month ago
i wish wal mart would open up here in australia you yanks are lucky
THEJMANRULZ 1 month ago
I challenge Powell to work in a sweatshop and see how he likes it!
ramatirthadasa 1 month ago
The ending of this video was one of the best things i have ever experienced in my life HAHAHAHA Penn is awsome :)
hollow5150 1 month ago
Yes, the people who make those shirts are obnoxious assholes.
But look at the real issue:
Instead of encouraging these children to work in their sweatshops, shouldn't wealthier countries like the U.S be doing something to help these third world countries progress to the point where their kids won't have to work in fucking sweat shops? Oh no, of course not, because then there wouldn't be a way for wal-mart to cheaply produce their goods. Hmmmm... See where this is going?
shrikechan 1 month ago
@shrikechan The US is always helping third world countries. Japan helps themselves, guess who's the next super power. We bailed everyone else out, are they gonna do the same for us?
marriedachocletbunny 1 month ago
Fuck you those assholes that make the teeshirts FUCK THEM IN THE NECK! Lol
97ajf 1 month ago
So wal-mart doesn't deny that they exploit sweat shops. The fuck?
pommyrooter 1 month ago
Wal-mart is great. I always get better services compared to Target and Kmart. I like the wide spacing and high roofing, unlike some main street stores.
r29 2 months ago
@r29 yeah but u dont work there
guineapiggyman 1 month ago
@guineapiggyman If i had to choose between wal-mart or other other stores i would choose wal-mart given that most of their managers were once lowly workers.
r29 1 month ago
God bless Walmart for not unionizing. Unions are pointless in the United States now, considering we actually have laws to protect workers.
SaviorSixtySix 2 months ago
@SaviorSixtySix fuck you
guineapiggyman 1 month ago
My mom, worked at Walmart for years and still works there. I worked in Walmart while I was getting my college degree and I still shop there every week. If it wasn't for Walmart, I would have been dirt poor as a child, and I would be 1000s more in student debt. I LOVE WALMART.
shinokiba 2 months ago
@shinokiba, If you love it somuch, why dont you marry it. /b/
pommyrooter 1 month ago
@pommyrooter Because the American government won't recognize our relationship.
shinokiba 1 month ago
@shinokiba, Hahahaha
pommyrooter 1 month ago
Dont u just hate people who want to be different and hate good stuff that does nothing but good
jopi122 2 months ago
@jopi122 except you dont get it.
guineapiggyman 1 month ago
The joke is on them, Hitler DESPISED big box retailers, back then they were warehouses but considered the same thing in premise. He was for small business ONLY.
GProduct 2 months ago
9:21 onward. One of the funniest things I have ever heard EVER, and not least for its accuracy.
blueluny 3 months ago 2
disney, which also owns abc tv, is building a disneyland in communist china, and maybe with some gulag workers.
2:48 white boy hollywood documentary maker wont make a documentary about that.
monk22yrs 3 months ago
the evil ny times used public domain to steal somebody's land about 5 years ago, in order to move to a nicer location.
monk22yrs 3 months ago
2:04 That Lincoln is just like mine!!!
IseeRightThrough2you 3 months ago
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GROW UP! WAL-MART IS NOT ONLY A GREAT STORE BUT AND AMAZING CONVENIENCE TO ALL! SO DEAL WITH IT!!!
cfoor4 3 months ago
210 people want to sniff Maureen Dowds chair
jjeremmy 3 months ago
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fuck you ass holes
memphis407 4 months ago
its all about H-E-B PLUS!!!!!
BIGJOEDAPOET 4 months ago
i felt like penn @ 9:21
Nextto13 4 months ago 24
Were all fucked
joeyford 4 months ago
We may not have a union at Walmart, but we're treated well, everyone is paid at least a little over minimum wage, and we get sweet blue vests. Those fags in the T-shirts probably bought those pants from Walmart anyhow.
TheCarlsonsRaiders 4 months ago 5
In South Africa, when you get idiots striking every second day, you kind of grow to hate unions. I dunno about America but here, unions are bullshit!
LemonPopsiclez 4 months ago in playlist Penn and Teller Season 5
@LemonPopsiclez I think it depends much on which country it is, I don't know about America either, but in Sweden, unioons work just fine without strikes
lasseplatburk 3 months ago
@lasseplatburk That's good to hear :) Here people strike literally every day -_-' it's stupid.
LemonPopsiclez 3 months ago
how could one justify comparing a wal-mart worker with a nazi? I mean, there is a difference between making a point, and making light of one of the worst things ever in human history. One small step for inbreed hate mongers, and one giant leap backward for the progression of man kind. =(
jamieisarockstar87 4 months ago
Yeah seriously. Fuck both of them.
AwesomeGeekocity 4 months ago
HAHAHAHAHA 9:21 = QUITE POSSIBLY THE MOST HILARIOUS RANT SCREAMED IN THIS OR ANY OTHER LANGUAGE AND/OR ERA OF MANKIND
PrairieDon1021 4 months ago 4
@PrairieDon1021 I agree. It was truly riveting.
Slashbash 4 months ago
OK penn and teller----- so because the US used to have child slavery that makes it OK?
instead of working at walmarts sweat shops.. they de working on their family farms
hairypolack 4 months ago
@hairypolack I know, right? Get those little girls back in the brothels where they belong.
sevenzdown 3 months ago
lol at the end.
furydeath 5 months ago
Hold on . so because i go to the third world where I know wages are shit and thus I can afford to pay shit ( but a little bit more ) I become the good guy ?
Love these shows but that logic doesnt hold up.
Govanmauler 5 months ago
@Govanmauler He never said that you will become a good guy
weldon29 5 months ago
@weldon29 True but if walmart wants a pass for using these people as labour ( for me ) they would have to be paying a lot more than the locals usually make and investing some money back into these countries , otherwise ( IMO) they are simply taking advantage of a county being poor. And thats not something that deserves praise.
Govanmauler 5 months ago
@Govanmauler According to the person in the video, he did mention that the pay for their workers are higher than the average income in those countries. While they do take advantage of the people living in poor countries, they do indirectly help out the people there as well. Also, I'm not sure if anyone really praises what they are doing, I think not accusing them of being an evil organization is what Penn is really trying to get across.
weldon29 5 months ago
@weldon29 Granted , I would agree they are no more " evil " than 90% of the large multinationals out there , however as the show says the lower middle / working classes of the west are the people benefiting from the cheap goods being sold , it must be pointed out that outsourcing to cheap foreign labour is what hurts these people in the first place.
Walmart makes things easier for poor people ? I say Walmart makes it easier to create poor people (who then can only afford to shop at wlamart)
Govanmauler 4 months ago
@Govanmauler Personally, I would rather the people living in poor countries have the jobs.
weldon29 4 months ago
Damn right HEIL WALMART they give me my junk food at a cheaper price :3
Dracofangstudios 5 months ago
So pretty much all your supporters are niggresses named LaToilet and Mitch. Wow that is impressive! I love Walmart now!
CanadiaNecro1 5 months ago
Aluminum cans put the Tin Can people out of business. The PC put the Typewriter people out of business. The calculator put the slide rule people out of business. IT'S CALLED PROGRESS!!!!!
ghostofandy 5 months ago in playlist Bullshit! 33
@ghostofandy and the wheel put the foot people out of business. lol
guineapiggyman 1 month ago
@ghostofandy Wal-Mart is progress in terms of their inventory and shipping methods. Although they rule over their manufacturer's with an iron fist because they are so big. Wal-Mart is progress in terms of how they use cutting-edge technology. Wal-Mart IS NOT PROGRESS in terms of how they treat their employees. It is a fact that most Wal-Mart cashiers are part-time because full-time would require benefits and such. You want an ethical progressive company? Look at Costco. Study up. I did in school
iz2sicc 3 weeks ago in playlist penn and teller
@iz2sicc
It's so horrible there that millions of people voluntarily choose to work there, and mllions frequent the store every week. And those manufacturers? They're so coerced, so strictly ruled that they can just stop promising to ship more goods at any time, with no fear of retribution. Why, the contracts they have at any one time probably have release clauses.
Producers constantly try to pay less for the same things. When they succeed, they're able to offer cheaper goods to -
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PanzerDivisionBOM 3 weeks ago
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- consumers. That's what economic growth is, and that's progress. Hiring two part-time workers for less than one full-time worker is very much an innovation, even if it's only in compliance to the arbitrary and wasteful demands of the state, and it makes society a little more prosperous.
PanzerDivisionBOM 3 weeks ago
The president of the local food and commercial workers union that they show @7:45 is Ronald E. Powell of Local 881. The second in command of that union is none other than his son Steven M. Powell. These two people are far more evil than Wal-Mart could ever be. They take money from your check every week and do little to nothing for you in return. The grocery stores are not afraid of these unions like they should be, the unions are paid off by them to do their bidding.
pimpymcdougall 6 months ago
I can't beleive that ugly bitch selling the T-shirts thought that she could make fun of other people like that. She needs to take a look in the mirror! Whats up with that hair cut?
earwax12321 6 months ago
Okay this episode I see where Penn n Teller are coming from, a lot of the Walmart hate is BS and overhyped, but some of their debunking isn't completely valid. i.e.: "When labor costs go up, it gets passed onto the consumers" true. But those costs could've been taken out of Corporate's big bonuses. But like any other giant, Walmart says "fuck all of America, I want my money!" And the argument "yeah sweatshops are horrible, but marginally better than alternatives is great in comparison!" is WEAK.
ONIProductionsLtd 6 months ago
@ONIProductionsLtd How the hell is that a weak argument? It's factually correct. In most cases, sweatshops are objectively better than the alternative. How is that in any way bad or immoral? What would you suggest as an alternative?
Pseudomans 6 months ago
@ONIProductionsLtd How the hell is that a weak argument? It's factually correct. In most cases, sweatshops are objectively better than the alternative. How is that in any way bad or immoral? What would you suggest as an alternative?
Pseudomans 6 months ago
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@ONIProductionsLtd How the hell is that a weak argument? It's factually correct. In most cases, sweatshops are objectively better than the alternative. How is that in any way bad or immoral? What would you suggest as an alternative?
Pseudomans 6 months ago
Oh! Ok, so Wal Mart workers go around torturing and killing innocent Jews do they?!
TBlenx1995 6 months ago
"Fuck you both in the fucking neck" God i love this show
JDMvids1105 6 months ago 2
Wal-Mart isn't really cheap. My family spends over $100 on a weeks worth of groceries. The small, high-quality markets are even higher priced but look less ugly. If you are so inclined to take down wal-mart, don't buy anything there...simple. It's the consumers fault in the end for making a corp. as big as it is.
quidnick 7 months ago
@quidnick Gas prices go up due to government subsidizing ethanol which in turn makes prices go up.
shanewolfe610 6 months ago
@quidnick I know right? There are so many stores in my neighborhood that 1) Are cleaner than WM 2) Actually train their workers well so they can help me with my purchases 3) Are much, much cheaper than WM and 4) Have better quality produce and deli. I hardly ever shop at WM and we used to have two in our town but one shut its doors because it couldn't make any money!
SStrongIsNeverWrong 6 months ago
fuck you both in the fucking neck
Tur0o 7 months ago
@Tur0o I laughed so hard, I fell of my chair when he said that. rofl
rightlydivide 6 months ago
I used to work in the meatcutters union when I worked in a deli. It's fucking bullshit. They barely do anything for you, yet I had to give em $40 a month for my union dues. I fuckin hate unions, they don't do any good anymore.
xtremejohnny69 7 months ago
fucktards
NotTheRealKatyB 7 months ago
i wanna see wal-mart sell t-shirts that shit on walmart
even though they won't profit they should sell them at like half the price of the original guys who make em
and see if they go out of stock
make wal-mart proove people are hippocrits
kionay 7 months ago
Lol those Hel Mart t-shirts were actually pretty funny
PhilipDK5800 7 months ago
whats up with woman eyes holy shit
chronicgrass 7 months ago
@chronicgrass she's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes.
TheHecklar1 7 months ago
Fuck you both in the fucking neck!!!!
TheTboss77 7 months ago 2
I, personally, am glad Walmart is non-union. I believe Unions have served their purpose. Before them, wages were terrible and work conditions were nightmarish. Their initial appearance gave rise to safety and heath standards that gave us the quality of work and life we have today... but now it's all really about greed and putting money in their wallets with slanderous claims and governmental connections. Thanks a lot unions. You did us working class folks a favor... now please step down.
SolomonAros 7 months ago 3
@SolomonAros plus if walmart unionized today, all the benifits that the older employes have saved up will disapear because everything will have to be redone. its ok that walmart does this. if you really want to make more money, you should have gone to college and finished school. am i wrong?
jdizzle3600 7 months ago
@jdizzle3600 Funny thing about that college bit... It's a fallacy that as soon as you get a degree, you get a good job or career. I washed dishes at a bar with a man who got his Masters in Social Science and Worked in a factory with an older gentleman who has a doctorate in mathematics. Over-qualification is a problem in the working world. That aside, I didn't include all the points there are on the union matter since there is a text limit on comments x'3
SolomonAros 7 months ago 3
@SolomonAros right about that over qualification. its just a way for companies to say we dont want to pay you this much money because you know what your doing. lol.
jdizzle3600 7 months ago
@SolomonAros Over-qualification is bullshit, you'll never see it in the working world. It does exist in Academia, where the pay-scale is often based on qualifications. No hospitals turn away doctors, but many third rate universities will. That being said, a college degree is not a job ticket, you're right. (But it is basically never a detrimental asset)
shimauma 6 months ago in playlist Penn & Teller
@shimauma Over-qualification exists and is quite a problem in the current job market. There are a set number of jobs and when a company has a choice between a high school graduate that qualifies and probably won't have many more options and someone with a degree that will probably be actively searching for something new, guess what? They'll chose the high school graduate. That, my friend, is being denied due to over-qualification.
jenntegt 6 months ago
@jenntegt That is what is meant by the words, but it is a fiction. Companies are sympathetic to those with fewer options, they want only the best applicant. That is capitalism, and in the real world nobody shuns the better qualified candidate (despite the boring excuses of the unemployed).
shimauma 6 months ago
I like how everyone says they sell cheap shit made in China. Well most of the cheap shit cost twice as much elsewhere. That's all I see for sale anymore I like seeing people protesting we don't want wal-mart in our town well then why is the store always packed i've even saw hippies shopping there. I like Wal-mart and Target and I give no apologies for that.
flootisboy65 7 months ago
Sweat shops, you can thank Bill Clinton for those, he's the dick who sent our jobs over seas. They are not far from slaves, its called indentured servitude.
These dumbass people who call themselves Democrats have soiled the Democrat and Liberal name, they actually believe in Socialism or Communism. A Democrat is for Democracy, Democracy is freedom, not socialism. I dropped out of high school and I could tell these fuckasses this. Idiots, the lot of them.
WackyZacky1000 8 months ago
No matter what people think of Wal Mart, we all know it's not going anywhere anytime soon. It's convenient and the prices are very good. (and no, I don't care if that's because of sweatshops). In fact, I'm going tonight to buy some shit. I'm not ashamed of shopping there.
MahBoi22 8 months ago
I live in a relatively small (even by our standards) British city. A few years ago a company called Westfield started building a mall. Naturally, local assholes complained.
It's been finished for some time now, and guess what? IT'S FUCKING AWESOME. There's tons of different stores and leisure activities all in one place. Sure a couple of old shops went out of business, but that's because consumers preferred the new mall, not because the mall forced us to use it instead of small shops!
vulnerabledonkey 8 months ago
These two spastics need to get a life. I work in a supermarket - that means I'm a monkey??? I have a BSc for fucks sake! Many well qualified people are forced to work in retail due to the lack of jobs and retail isn't as easy as these two dickheads make it out to be. It's frankly insulting and looking at these two... well if I'm a monkey these two are pond scum. Who would have children with her? And you can tell he's never been laid in his shitty life. Fuck both of you, you assholes.
NasalFloss 8 months ago 2
8:37 Are you fucking kidding me? These people are sick retards who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. Yeah I dislike the redneck welfare abusers as much as the next guy but WalMart is not causing people to be that way. Those two people even look like the classic welfare abusing rednecks. And you know whats funny? Someone I know bought that Anti-Walmart movie, at Walmart, and guess what? It was the cheapest fuckin movie they had!
BudoScience 8 months ago
We'redefending sweatshops! We'redefending sweatshops! We'redefending sweatshops!
threehead99 8 months ago
There is so much delicious irony at the end there
cheeselover223 8 months ago
Probably could have got those Hell-Mart T-shirts cheaper at Wal-Mart!!
UBT425 9 months ago 92
unions us part of the main reasons why the unemployment is so high in the states, overpaying the union workers thats bullshit
CarimboHanky 9 months ago
1:18 I always here "bitch represents...' Penn gettin' gangstah un our ass
somethingonmyhip 9 months ago in playlist Penn & Teller 3
I love Walmart!! They give me the best prices for a decent product. These two t-shirt pasting motherfuckers will soon be out of business and will probably apply for a job at Walmart out of desperation!! The old people at Walmart are retired and they are keeping themselves busy. Good for them. Show some respect toward them you cock-sucking inbreds. Let's see if you can even make it to that age, let alone volunteer for work. Fuck small businesses, their service and prices are shit!! Walmart rocks!
WhoLoveTheDaddy 10 months ago 4
A Wal-Mart with a Subway? I thought McDonalds had an exclusive contract to be in Wal-Mart. Cool.
DarthCadeous501 10 months ago 2
@DarthCadeous501 Yeah, my Wal-Mart has a Subway, and it is oh so convenient :D
Keys1281 9 months ago
Everyone knows that labor unions are useless and cause more damage to a company than try to improve it. They make impossible demands on companies, when they don't realize that companies have to work with what they got in order to employ their workers and stay afloat.
murdock283 10 months ago 2
they misspelled hell
free2drawmanga 10 months ago
Look at professor Powell ruin his name and career before he even has one. What a douche! Only a douche would say that a sweat shop job is better than not having a job at all. Actually defending unfair work practices, because without shit treatment from a shit American company so fat shit American people can buy shit products that are degrading our manufacturing base, these third world employees would be worse off???? AMAZING ECONOMICS! YEA PROFESSOR POWELL!
Adrizz5447 10 months ago
@Adrizz5447 You mad, bro?
murdock283 10 months ago
Oh my god! Nice f!#!$n ending to this part.
Comp1337e 10 months ago
repeal the income tax, repeal corporate taxes and it will make the small business men more competitive, its the socialism/fascism that is making Wal-mart so big. Wal-Mart has the expensive tax attorneys who can find the loopholes while the small business man pays a higher percentage, lower the taxes across the board and get the US out of all the intergovernmental trade programs, if its really free trade u dont need the gov't involved.
ShatterNWO 11 months ago
@ShatterNWO So what? Walmart pays even less because the loopholes haven't been closed and your country is even worse off because the government has less money to run essential services?
Because the whole lower taxes pay for themselves thing is bullshit, and so is the free market.
TrueMetis 10 months ago
@TrueMetis what essential services? we could easily cut military spending by 3/4's, we just couldn't police the world, we could end the war on drugs, stop paying ppl not to work. Then tax cuts could pay for themselves if u cut spending. Free Market is not bullshit, its economic freedom which has led to innovation that has drastically improved the standard of living of billions of ppl across the world.
ShatterNWO 10 months ago
@ShatterNWO First off you said cut income and corporate tax rates, which would hugely decrease the money your government has. You couldn't just take that out of the US military budget because then you'd have to deal with a half million more unemployed people all taking unemployment benefits and other social services causing the cost of the social services to skyrocket. Costing more money from a budget you just fucked up. And really it's cute that you think it's the corporate tax rate (cont)
TrueMetis 10 months ago
@TrueMetis (cont) because the US already has one of the lowest tax rates in the world. It doesn't matter if you decrease that to zero, you will never compete with the 50 cent and hour labour they can get in the third world. Which is why corporations are doing so well.
As for innovation, that wasn't the free market, most of the really important shit was funded by government. You know like clean water, electricity, food, you know the stuff that really increase the standard of Living.
TrueMetis 10 months ago
@TrueMetis The gov't shouldn't be giving unemployment benefits. Like I said, cut spending. With ur logic the gov't should start more wars to take care of the currently unemployed. It's a little insulting that u think all of those military ppl would turn into welfare queens, rather than get jobs and start their own businesses which of course would create more jobs, which would actually mean more revenue as long as the incentives were in place. But paying ppl not to work compounds the problem.
ShatterNWO 10 months ago
@ShatterNWO No western government doesn't give out unemployment any government that did would quickly cease to exist. And no I don't think the all the military people no longer working for the military would be able to get jobs at this time, I mean have you looked at unemployment? And no they would't be able to start a business. Cause in order to start a business you need A) Capital B) an idea) C) demand for whatever you idea is. If that was easy there would be a lot more start up's (cont)
TrueMetis 10 months ago
@TrueMetis (cont) and less small businesses would fail early on. At his point in time the ideas you advocate would fuck up not only the US but the entire world economy. The only place this would work is in your mind, in that sense it is similar to the free market.
TrueMetis 10 months ago
@TrueMetis How would the government cease to exist, once ppl stop getting their unemployment checks they start looking for work, some get work and some don't. If the government stopped practicing Keynesianism and respected the free market, the unemployment problem would cure itself in 2 years tops. But in ur world the government should start wars and pointless programs just to employ ppl, no matter how wasteful and destructive the jobs may be.
ShatterNWO 10 months ago
@ShatterNWO That would require there to be, you know, jobs available. Which for the most part there isn't, even though many corporations are making tons of money. You realize that you are still just blabbing and not actually coming up with a real solution. The government would cease to exist because well it's a fucking democracy and anyone who had anything to do with ending welfare would quickly find themselves out of office because of the millions of people they just pissed off.
TrueMetis 10 months ago
@TrueMetis Well its not a democracy, its a republic. I've been saying reduce taxes across the board which will decrease businesses operating cost and allow them to higher more ppl and end the wars, war on drugs, and pointless federal beauracratic agencies to solve the debt crisis. As a libertarian anarchist i wouldn't be crying if the government ended, but it probly wouldn't if u got rid of all the welfare.(corporate also) Sure there would be pissed off ppl, but being pissed doesnt pay bills.
ShatterNWO 10 months ago
@ShatterNWO First off a Republic is a type of democracy, second most corporations make plenty of money and still aren't hiring, doesn't matter how much you lower your already really low tax rate, demand won't increase so they won't need more employees. So we are back to once again anyone responsible for the ending of welfare being kicked out of office.
TrueMetis 10 months ago
@TrueMetis I think the distinction between a pure deomacry and republic is important, we have a republic with a representative democracy. Ur talking about the mega corps. who for the most part don't pay that many taxes. But small businesses pay a higher percentage cus they can't take advantage of the loopholes. So this would strengthen struggling small businesses and make it easier for ppl to start their own. Ur right, ppl would get kicked out, which is why you'll probly win with ur arguments.
ShatterNWO 10 months ago
@ShatterNWO You can keep thinking it all you want but lower tax rates will not help small businesses survive. They will however allow larger businesses keep more money because of the aforementioned tax loops, while at the same time not actually higher any more people.
TrueMetis 10 months ago
@TrueMetis Of course lower taxes makes it easier on small businesses, it lowers ur operating cost without having to fire any1. I'm completely with u on the large corps. The biggest threat to them is competition, its difficult to compete with them becus they can take advantage of loopholes small businesses can't.
ShatterNWO 10 months ago
I hate the ginger republican cunt.
whiteyonwelfare 11 months ago
Nice mullet bitch, fuck you in the fuckin neck
IdiotJedi 11 months ago
Nice mullet bitch, fuck you in the fuckin neck
IdiotJedi 11 months ago
Nice mullet bitch
IdiotJedi 11 months ago
Yeah ok. Walmart is great. Capitalism is great. America is fucking great. Your all very pleasant too. Theres nothing wrong here. Have a nice day.
joejohanssen 11 months ago
Fucking fat couple calling other people monkeys when they look like tree sloths that move slowly and stupidly gaze into non-existence, fuck these ass wipes.
janmac86 11 months ago
I live in a town called Niles Michigan, less than 20,000 population. And we have a super wal-mart and a super kick ass little down town. Just throwing in my 2 cents that wal-mart has rocked for our town. I hated going to tiny Greengrocery stores that didn't have jack.
CapitalG777 11 months ago
walmart is great especially when we need cheap chinese crap. It doesn't sell quality and doesn't have the best prices in many cases but it has it all under one roof. go walmart! And people wonder why America's balance of trade with China is so bad.
tsicotte 11 months ago
So you just assume Emma Mitts is right, and Joe Moore is wrong? Im from chicago, we dont need more fucking walmarts! My aunt used to own a store that sold womens apparel on the southwest side of chicago. She did really good for many years but all of a sudden the customers just stopped coming in. She eventually closed down unable to compete. Thanks walmart you took my aunts livelihood. No more bullshit! Walmart is bad for America, just like Bush was, just like the fed. All about money.
joejohanssen 11 months ago
@joejohanssen But her customers not get the same products for cheaper, and that leaves them more money to spend elsewhere. Some people may be hurt a lot by Wal*Mart, but the overall outcome is positive.
Try to look at this objectively.
shamgar001 11 months ago
@shamgar001 If you think about it. The lower prices that are offered at walmart, which make it difficult for small business owners to stay open, instead create low paying jobs and eradicate the small business and consequently create a lager divide between lower and middle class. What we see now in america is the disappearance of the middle class but they put it as the disappearance of the lower class. The middle class will be debt slaves and will just corporate ourselves into the lower class.
joejohanssen 11 months ago
@joejohanssen The middle class fucked ITSELF over when deciding to fall for no down payment, 40 yr loans with only 2 people living in them!
Wal-Mart, if you used basic math saves people money that they could otherwise use to support local business!
If you own a retail store, you're FUCKED! What we see in America, is debt gone wild that we're caused by the citizens of the US.
Consumer Logic and Basic Economics 101. That shouold be standard now-a-days -.-'.
Bunch of fucking dumbasses.
SniperViper1000 11 months ago
@SniperViper1000 Yeah ok professor. Do you think that the banks who loaned the money were really looking out for the best interest of the lendee? You cant blame it all on stupid americans OK? We cant all be intolerable wise-asses like you. People got fucked by the banks. Thats what the banks wanted. They didnt care about nothing but your money. But they made it seem like these sort of loans were just fine and dandy. They put all your worries at ease. Predatory lending practices.
joejohanssen 11 months ago
@joejohanssen I can't blame them for making money off of stupid people. We shouldn't coddle stupidity.
I *can* blame them for being deceitful, however. I *can* blame them for merrily selling off bad debt while knowing FULL WELL what it would do to the economy, but not caring as long as they can get their millions and run off to the Caymans.
I can blame them for intentionally damaging the economy for their own personal gain.
syn010110 11 months ago
@syn010110 No, one saw the disaster coming. Everyone knew it has a huge gramble. But no one thought it would escalate to that proprotional size. However, it's over now. The recession is done.
SniperViper1000 11 months ago
@joejohanssen 1. Banks loaned faulty loans because THEY were forced to by ACORN. THey were harrassing banks and bankers to give them SHITTY LOANS!
2. Of course they were looking out for the best interest. They don't make money on defaulted loans, only paid back ones!
3. No, I can blame it on both, you're stupid president (THE one you have NOW, not Bush) and the stupid AVERAGE CITIZEN!
4. I'm not being a wise-ass. It's called COMMON FUCKING SENSE! Don't get what you can't afford!
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SniperViper1000 11 months ago
@joejohanssen
5. People fucked themselves. Blaming the banks is illogical and down right irresponsible.
6. No, they didn't, because they lose money on toxic debts and defaulted loans. They all knew that.
7. Uhhh.. NO SHIT! That's what a business is there for... money! Aslong as a business makes you happy and gets it's money, then who cares?
8. I'm pretty sure if you were harrassed to make the biggest gamble of you're life and then got promised if it failed they'd give you the money....
SniperViper1000 11 months ago
@joejohanssen [CONT'D] then you'd do it to.
What were they supposed to do. Make a commercial saying "Don't take our loans, they're toxic and government controlled!" -.-' Get a fucknig book and starting learning or better yet. Use google and search up ECONOMICS!
SniperViper1000 11 months ago
I am better than the people that work at Walmart. If that makes me arrogant of ego-centrical, then so be it. But at then end of the day my life is worth more than some un-educated walmart worker.
lordlie 11 months ago
@lordlie my wang is longer than yours.
blacksuite1 11 months ago
@lordlie first off, im putting myself through college by working at wal-mart. So you can go fuck yourself on the un-educated point. We're all human beings no one is better. Why don't you just go walk off a cliff with your hate. trust you'll fall at the same rate I do. Cause were the same ( in that were human, not that im an asshole like you)
spazmonkey86 11 months ago
@lordlie You aren't better than anyone, shit-stain. This comment proves it. Your an imbecile thats all. Who is your life worth more to? Did your fat whore mommy tell you that?
joejohanssen 11 months ago
@lordlie Right. I worked at Wal-Mart for just under a year. If I'm so uneducated, how the hell did I get my high school diploma, join the Army Reserves, serve six months in Afghanistan (and survive to tell the tale) and get my private pilot's license?
Your turn, dick-weed.
TheCriticalCanadian 4 months ago
am i the only one that works at walmart that watched this lol
Worgenninja 1 year ago
It takes a lot more effort than a monkey to do a job like being a cashier or manager at a place like that. You have to remember numbers for produce, you have to know how to use wic checks, and checks, and credit cards. You have to be nice, you have to be able to judge if the person who is returning something isn't fraudulent. You have to receive phone calls and know how to deal with that, etc, etc. A monkey would be too weak, too dumb to do this. I think they're the monkeys! They look it too!
Kelpalots 1 year ago
im rarely speechless but.............FUCK
libertarianable 1 year ago
Well tank thats half true but we recuve alit more over seas products then what we maje hell most of are electonics are from china or japan and alot of are cook ware in from india
KyleScott2 1 year ago
Best ending to a video ever
KyleScott2 1 year ago
thats the problem we're moving our production overseas thats not what made america great
ArcticSledgeTank 1 year ago
Penn needs to say fuck you in the neck in every bs episode, it's just that powerful
waniaksk8z 1 year ago
Ah that is how capitalism works. If you can't compete well in the market you will fail.
Elestareus 1 year ago
yep... these shirt guys also pissed me off at the end of the video
Bauzi514 1 year ago
The liberals in this country make me laugh. They attack Wal-Mart. They chastise everything they do. They employ millions. But the libs want them on welfare. They want them selling crack or meth. They want us that do not work at Wal-Mart but shop there to not have Wal-Mart and pay higher prices for the SAME goods and then pay more taxes to subsidize there welfare benefits. Hey liberal progressives. GO FUCK YOURSELVES YOU MENTALLY ILL FUCKS!!!
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago 2