@MothmanCometh that's not surprising, since this piece depicts a lonely bird in the middle of a hot, suffocating jungle. I guess it's the same type of thing as someone stuck in a hellish town :P
The birds come alive: their hesitations, their idiosyncrasies, their beauty, their natural, mysterious ways. I am intrigued by this music, and ultimately comforted by it. "Sad Birds"....
A very nice song.. People judge Ravel's own interpretation of his work ? You couldn't, because one of those must admit that this is how he wanted it to be played..
La pédale centrale est toujours à gauche ici. La résonance ne peut ni s'installer ni se déposer sur la table d'harmonie du piano. Main gauche large sans débordement. Chanter sous la nuit.
To the English speakers here, the French post below states that this recording is from a piano roll. So the physical mechanics of the piano roll are perhaps accountable for some of the quality of the interpretation. Casadesus or Ravel himself, if its taken from a roll, the physical nuances may not at all be well represented. A piano roll is not a recording of the sound. Have you ever seen how they're made? After the player performs, someone has to repunch and clean up the holes for clarity.
Had a play through the G major concerto this morning in college and it always amazes me how a piece that sounds incredibly difficult is quite fun and not to tricky.
This is the version played apparently by Ravel himself I heard on French radio when I was in Paris in the year 1983-'84; I was entranced then; even if I only heard part of it...nice to hear it all at last.
Peut-on avoir plus de renseignements sur cet enregistrement? Est-ce bien l'interprétation de Ravel? Et quand? Il s'agit forcément d'un disque remanié...;Quand l'a-t-il été?
Pour l'enregistrement sonore, je n'ai pas d'informations. Mais c'est sur un Piano Roll (piano mécanique) que Ravel a joué cette pièce, d'ou la possibilité de le réentendre aujourd'hui. Ravel n'était donc probablement pas là lors de l'enregistrement.
@v4liumfrance in his prime he could. He was considered a virtuoso pianist who won first place in piano performance at the conservatoire (if i remember correctly). While his technique is not comparable to world class virtuoso's, he was on par with most professional pianists of his day. As he grew older he became unable to play the more difficult pieces of his repertoire and also what he probably considered his biggest failure, his concerto in G.
@louis621 he was never a virtuoso, he tried winning the Prix de Rome 4 times or so and he never got it. Apparently his wrists were always to stiff and such.
@maternalheart66 the prix de rome was a competition in composition, not performance and he did win the piano perfermance prize. Consider this, Debussy won the prix de rome and he was definitely not as good a pianist as ravel. The only reason he didnt win it was because his piece jeux d'eau caused such a stir that the judges were almost forced to reject him the second 2 times. The incident was called the ravel affair and caused many professors in the conservatoire to resign.
@MsLavictoria I must admit that what I said about the recording a few years ago might not be 100% true... It depends on the composer's skills, I guess. Oh and thanks for that fact about Beethoven, I think it's very interesting!! :)
Yes and no... Beethoven used to say, when people congratulated him for his compositions : "uh, if you'd know what's in my head, it's so much nicer..."
Your point is well taken; I would find it incredibly difficult to believe Ravel would not be the ultimate specialist in his own music. But can there not be specialists, some better than the others?
This piece is so haunting and melancholey. Exquisite work.
TERRYBIGGENDEN 3 weeks ago
I'm constantly enchanted hearing a composer heir own work, especially pianists. This is memserising. He knows what he is doing—superb artistry. :-)
TERRYBIGGENDEN 3 weeks ago
so intimy we are into his madness --so cool :D
TheComposerdude 6 months ago
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Etheryczna 7 months ago
@Etheryczna Too bad it's impressionism.
OriginalBasaliskos 6 months ago
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petezilla 11 months ago
@ smithsherman haha, agreed. Argerich is specialist in the classical - romantic realm...definately not the 20th century. Thanks!
MsALmusic 1 year ago
For some reason, this song reminds me of Silent Hill.
MothmanCometh 1 year ago
@MothmanCometh that's not surprising, since this piece depicts a lonely bird in the middle of a hot, suffocating jungle. I guess it's the same type of thing as someone stuck in a hellish town :P
maternalheart66 1 year ago
did he "recorded" alborada?
4785689 1 year ago
@4785689
Nope... AFAIK
truecrypt 1 year ago
@truecrypt ok! liked szimanowsky?
4785689 1 year ago
The birds come alive: their hesitations, their idiosyncrasies, their beauty, their natural, mysterious ways. I am intrigued by this music, and ultimately comforted by it. "Sad Birds"....
thomasmoredamian 1 year ago
This renders everyone else's recordings of this piece virtually redundant...
flibbertergibbet 1 year ago
A very nice song.. People judge Ravel's own interpretation of his work ? You couldn't, because one of those must admit that this is how he wanted it to be played..
alxsandoiu2010 1 year ago
C'est le compositeur au piano et cela n'a pas d'équivalent.
TheAlonetogether 1 year ago 5
La pédale centrale est toujours à gauche ici. La résonance ne peut ni s'installer ni se déposer sur la table d'harmonie du piano. Main gauche large sans débordement. Chanter sous la nuit.
TheAlonetogether 1 year ago
To the English speakers here, the French post below states that this recording is from a piano roll. So the physical mechanics of the piano roll are perhaps accountable for some of the quality of the interpretation. Casadesus or Ravel himself, if its taken from a roll, the physical nuances may not at all be well represented. A piano roll is not a recording of the sound. Have you ever seen how they're made? After the player performs, someone has to repunch and clean up the holes for clarity.
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NeRienII 2 years ago 4
Had a play through the G major concerto this morning in college and it always amazes me how a piece that sounds incredibly difficult is quite fun and not to tricky.
SecretPianist38 2 years ago
If only we had the video to go with it.
Polygor 3 years ago
This is the version played apparently by Ravel himself I heard on French radio when I was in Paris in the year 1983-'84; I was entranced then; even if I only heard part of it...nice to hear it all at last.
CarlHalling 3 years ago
Peut-on avoir plus de renseignements sur cet enregistrement? Est-ce bien l'interprétation de Ravel? Et quand? Il s'agit forcément d'un disque remanié...;Quand l'a-t-il été?
lessagaudier 3 years ago
Pour l'enregistrement sonore, je n'ai pas d'informations. Mais c'est sur un Piano Roll (piano mécanique) que Ravel a joué cette pièce, d'ou la possibilité de le réentendre aujourd'hui. Ravel n'était donc probablement pas là lors de l'enregistrement.
17182559 3 years ago
I CAN'T believe it!? How can people judge Ravel's own interpretation of his work?? One must admit that this is how HE wanted it to be played... duh!?
poisson1991 3 years ago 27
@poisson1991
well Ravel was limited concerning technic, he could'nt play some of his own pieces :)
that's why he hated to give concerts but asked his friends panist to play :)
v4liumfrance 1 year ago
@v4liumfrance in his prime he could. He was considered a virtuoso pianist who won first place in piano performance at the conservatoire (if i remember correctly). While his technique is not comparable to world class virtuoso's, he was on par with most professional pianists of his day. As he grew older he became unable to play the more difficult pieces of his repertoire and also what he probably considered his biggest failure, his concerto in G.
louis621 1 year ago
@louis621 he was never a virtuoso, he tried winning the Prix de Rome 4 times or so and he never got it. Apparently his wrists were always to stiff and such.
maternalheart66 1 year ago
@maternalheart66 the prix de rome was a competition in composition, not performance and he did win the piano perfermance prize. Consider this, Debussy won the prix de rome and he was definitely not as good a pianist as ravel. The only reason he didnt win it was because his piece jeux d'eau caused such a stir that the judges were almost forced to reject him the second 2 times. The incident was called the ravel affair and caused many professors in the conservatoire to resign.
louis621 1 year ago
@poisson1991
Yes and no... Beethoven used to reply when people congratulated him for his compositions "uh, if you'd know what's in my head, it's so much nicer..."
MsLavictoria 8 months ago
@MsLavictoria I must admit that what I said about the recording a few years ago might not be 100% true... It depends on the composer's skills, I guess. Oh and thanks for that fact about Beethoven, I think it's very interesting!! :)
poisson1991 7 months ago
@MsLavictoria What? No he didnt.
OriginalBasaliskos 2 months ago
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@poisson1991
Yes and no... Beethoven used to say, when people congratulated him for his compositions : "uh, if you'd know what's in my head, it's so much nicer..."
MsLavictoria 8 months ago
This is a different performance from the other clip you posted with Ravel playing the same piece??
snaaptaker 3 years ago
Argerich valse Nobles sentimentales Just listen!
chad410 4 years ago
A strange society we live that can pronounce Argerich a "Ravel-Specialist"..while this is far deeper & profounder than any of her
"specialities"
smithsherman 4 years ago 24
Your point is well taken; I would find it incredibly difficult to believe Ravel would not be the ultimate specialist in his own music. But can there not be specialists, some better than the others?
Robotman42 2 years ago
@smithsherman One would certainly hope so when the composer is playing their own work! :)
mmoynan 8 months ago