he siad what he said, and their is no changing that. its every move he makes from now that changes how we will talk of him. if he dose not make the changes he talks of, we will talk nothing more of him than just the first black president.
I believe this lie was about 3 days only before he contradicted himself during his speech, and yet the press and the hypocritical sheep were claiming how well of apeaker he was.
It is very scary for me to hear people calling this man, Obama, "Messiah". It's disgusting how people around this country are putting this MAN upon a pedestal. He's nothing more than a man! He's no different or better than anyone else, period.
He's not a god, not a messiah, he is a man.
For anyone who is for this man, have you ever stopped to think perhaps the 'change' Obama wants, isn't the change YOU want?
Every time Obama is asked a question on a subject or personal association that he doesnt want to answer he says, Its just a distraction from the real issues. Why wont he just answer? What is he trying to hide? What do we really know about him? He refuses to release his college transcripts, thesis, birth certificate, etc. I wonder who paid for his college. Just how many ties to unsavory people does he have? I am tired of all his lies! DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN!
Obama indeed seems to be offering a people's government solution to all human problems. He is, after all, running for President of the United States, not for a pulpit. Substituting the state for God as provider has been the inherent common thread in all Marxist regimes.
It's pretty easy to make statements look contradictory when you take broad statements from several-second-long snippets of different interviews/speeches and then just stamp them together.
He says that "those are not statements that I ever heard," presumably talking specifically about the contents of the controversial sermons, where he said things like "God damn America for killing innocent people."
In the next clip, he admits he heard him say "remarks that could be considered controversial." That could mean anything.
And his admitting he knew he was a critic of American policy doesn't mean he heard him say things like "(American) terrorism begets terrorism."
Wow... with such a thoughtful, well-structured argument, I don't think a retort is even feasible on my part.
Or maybe I just can't be bothered to respond with any vigor to nescient statements that seem more fitting for an 11 year old boy than a 28 year old man.
"Back in Hawaii in the 1970s, it could seem that everyone was some kind of a minority. The fact that Obama was half-black and half-white didn't matter much to anyone but Obama, Kakugawa says: "He made everything out like it was all racial." On one occasion, Obama thought he'd gotten a bad break on the school basketball team because he was black. But Kakugawa recalls his father's telling the teenager,... (continued below...)
"No, Barry, it's not because you're black. It's because you missed two shots in a row." (Here, Kakugawa's memory is different from Obama's. The Ray character in the book is the one obsessed with being discriminated against.)"
Keith Kakugawa was a close friend of Obama's at the Punahou School. (He appears in "Dreams" as a revised character named "Ray" who may be a composite of more than one Obama friend.) He says that Obama, being a dark-skinned kid growing up in a white household, sensed that something was amiss. "He felt that he was not getting a part of who he was, the history," says Kakugawa, who is also of mixed race." (continued below...)
he's great at talking and looking nice, but he says nothing of substance. change we can believe in? change from my parents' pockets to fund useless programs?
wright's diatribe made my skin crawl. I don't see how Obama can ever distance himself enough from Wright at this point.
I feel that Wright lacks any understanding of the difficulties of females in our society.
I feel that Obama also lacks this awareness. He seems smug to me. He seems like a lot of men I have worked with over the years; his opinion of himself is somewhat higher than my opinion of him.
he picked the church as an adult, WENT 20 YEARS, donated $23,000 recently, named his book for the vulgar "pastor", had his children baptized by the racist pig, for years dragged his young, innocent daughters to drink in the HATE-WHITEY, HATE-AMERICA rants...and then made this vile bigot pastor a CAMPAIGN OFFICIAL!
And we are supposed to believe he's a UNITER?
It was a pretty speech by a great scriptwriter, but 20 years of his actions say the opposite....
Obama wrote the speech...They were his words and he meant them. Comments like this make me think it's time to give up on America, because we've forgotten how to think for ourselves.
So, I've been reading these comments, and I had an epiphany. I'm not often moved in this way, but I'm genuinely concerned that Obama's speech may have been like 'pearls to swine.' I don't mean that in a bad way...It just feels like people really didn't get what he was saying. It makes me ponder whether or education system has fallen that far short. It's a sad time for America when 'we the people' allow the media to distort and even create our truth. Listen with your own ears 4 1nce.
Welcome to the club. Have you ever read Bush's speeches prior to the Iraq war. There was no talk of imminent threat or any of the other stuff Bush is supposedly to have lied about. At least in the case, it is Obama's actual statements that are being used against him and not something his VP said 6 months after the fact.
Well, atleast you admit that his words are being used against him. My only issue with it is that the words are being taken out of context and used against him through distortion and misdirection. Maybe your world is black and white, but mine is grey. Things are not one way or the other, they are analogue representations of an infinite set of permutations possible. Simply put, you can mold things to seem anyway you like, and for you that will be the truth, no matter what. The media knows this.
How is Obama's word's being taken out of context? Obama has stated on Fox he heard none of those statements from the pews, then he states he has heard controversial statements in church. The spin from the Obmaminites is incredible. Obama's quotes are in perfect context.
"those statements" is refering to the ones being asked about in the interview. It's obvious he's heard some statements from some pews, that's why you sit in pews, to listen. Obama was refering to specific statements when he said he hadn't heard 'them.' I submit that there's no way that pastor would have a congregation with a single white member if all he did day in and day out is say things like "God Damn America." The media makes it seem that way, but common sense says otherwise. Look it up...
When Major Garrett asked Obama, Garrett made no reference to any specific statements. Obama voluntarily said "None of these statements". You can parse all day what 'these statements' meant, but it is no different than Bill Clinton trying to redefine 'is'.
How do you know what the man has or has not done? Simply telling someone that they have gone too far, doesn't mean they're going to do what you tell them to do.
The Anderson 360 question was after a specific clip, but the Major Garrett question on Fox was more general and Obama gave a much broader answer -
OBAMA: "When I saw these statements, many of which I had heard for the first time, then I thought it was important to make a very clear and unequivocal statement. None of these statements were ones that I had heard myself personally in the pews."
So you have a point on the CNN interview, but not on the statement on Fox.
Again, saying that he has heard some statements and not others is not a contradiction. Obama made it clear in his speech that when he felt the pastor said something inappropriate he would call him on it. The problem with all of this, is that the media gives no real context for any of these reports. It's pieced together to make an argument, usually one that will result in the highest ratings.
Obama is on record as saying he heard NONE of those statements. Is NONE that complex of a word for you? He then parsed it and said he only heard some of those statements after he started to run but not from the pews. Now he heard controversial statements in Church. What is your defense, that Obama was not sitting in the Pews when he heard those statements in Church? Really lame.
AGREED! His speaches sound really nice, untill you listen to him and realize"hey wait he actually just said nothing at all that he will actually come through with."
you could say that about Palin and McCain. Obama's DNC speech had more substance than all of RNC speeches put together in terms of solid plans and mechanisms to put them into action.
Ask yourself, if a pastor preaches one million words over a 30 year career, what percentage of those words would have to be racially charged in order to make him a biggot?
>>>Ask yourself, if a pastor preaches one million words over a 30 year career, what percentage of those words would have to be racially charged in order to make him a biggot?
If it were Rush Limbaugh, exactly one word would be sufficient.
Your point may be accurate concerning this video, but the defense of Obama is pointless. He sat in a racist church for 20 years. Prople in that church applauded the racist comments. Not only was the Pastor racist, but the congregation is racist. If you sit in a congregation that is racist, YOU are a racist to even stay there. People leave church and discuss sermons: what did these people talk about when they went to lunch after church? I bet it was NOT John 3:16
Most of what you're saying is based on one simple misconception. This is why these clips have been aired, to convince people that Obama is a racist. One could find clips that make the exact opposite argument using the very same church sermons. It's all in presentation and spin. It's actually a masterful move. The media knows that there are people who need a 'valid' reason to attack Obama. All that had to be done was to give a nudge in the direction of their choosing.
It has bothered me since listening to Obama's speech.I heard him speak about his Grandmother. I was appalled to hear Senator Obama compare his "white" grandmother to Reverend Wright, (did he "cringe" every time he heard his mentor speak????). I believe she tried to help him as much as she could.He should be thanking her for raising him, not embarrassing her in front of the world. My God the woman was the first woman vice-president of a local bank In Hawaii !!!! Shame on you Senator Obama!!!
And I thought having all those American flags on the stage with him seemed a bit like he was wrapping himself around the American flag after his minister's G** D*** America comments.
I think it hurts his credibility with people who allow the media to do their thinking for them. Honestly, I could have made this clip with Windows Moviemaker, and one hand tied behind my back. Furthermore, you can take anything and make it seems like something it's not, religious zealots, hell even religious moderates, do this to doctrines of all religions all of the time. When you have someone's ear and you lace 'truth' with a thin layer of lie or misdirection, you can convince them of a lot.
Yeah, Pastors all over the country immediately after 9-11 were saying "God Damn America"....
...unless he was mocking someone else (which he most certainly was not) there was no excuse for making such an asinine statement. The statements were in context, the statements were hateful, the statements were offensive to average Americans.
The only people I see trying to lice the truth with misdirection are the Obaminites. Obama lied.
You and I both know that my ref to context had to do with Obama's interview and speech. Your inability to see misdirection from anyone other than 'Obamanites' is a clear gauge of how thuroughly the media has your head.
I'm not Voting for Jeremiah Wright any more than I suspect that free thinking Republicans are voting for Pat Robertson or John Hagee who McCain was "honored" to be endorsed by despite Hagee's numerous bigoted remarks — including his claim that the Catholic church is "the Great Whore" and a "false cult system."
This is a foolish argument. When he says he knew about Wright's controversial views, he's talking about the fiery, passionate rhetoric that is typical of many prominent black churches. Those statements are vastly different from the ugly and appalling opinions that have been repeated the last few days on television. Obama wasn't aware of "God damn America", "US created AIDS", etc., until recently. He did know that Wright could be incendiary, just not at that level.
offcourse his a liar cause his the living antichrist
tubedude101 8 months ago
Like A uncle..........lol
luke55664 10 months ago
he siad what he said, and their is no changing that. its every move he makes from now that changes how we will talk of him. if he dose not make the changes he talks of, we will talk nothing more of him than just the first black president.
golearnthetruthnow 2 years ago
I believe this lie was about 3 days only before he contradicted himself during his speech, and yet the press and the hypocritical sheep were claiming how well of apeaker he was.
TitaniumByFire 2 years ago
I agree with Reverend Wright, not about his religious beliefs, but about his views on america's history of terrorist tactics.
The u.s. is the world's leading sponsor of terrorism.
It one is looking for terrorists, they need look no further than the CIA, the NSA and the Pentagon.
smujismuj 2 years ago
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MISSblanK0 2 years ago
It is very scary for me to hear people calling this man, Obama, "Messiah". It's disgusting how people around this country are putting this MAN upon a pedestal. He's nothing more than a man! He's no different or better than anyone else, period.
He's not a god, not a messiah, he is a man.
For anyone who is for this man, have you ever stopped to think perhaps the 'change' Obama wants, isn't the change YOU want?
tdmhcbbds32chp 3 years ago 4
And he came riding a white horse, and placed on his head was a crown, and he had a bow. That is what describes the 1st horseman in Revelations.
TitaniumByFire 2 years ago
Every time Obama is asked a question on a subject or personal association that he doesnt want to answer he says, Its just a distraction from the real issues. Why wont he just answer? What is he trying to hide? What do we really know about him? He refuses to release his college transcripts, thesis, birth certificate, etc. I wonder who paid for his college. Just how many ties to unsavory people does he have? I am tired of all his lies! DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN!
dishpanhanzs 3 years ago
I know one thing, his "typical white" grandmother paid for his education in private school.
TitaniumByFire 2 years ago
I strongly disagreed with Wright's views. That's why I chose to stay in the church for twenty years.
utubeworms 3 years ago 7
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Obama indeed seems to be offering a people's government solution to all human problems. He is, after all, running for President of the United States, not for a pulpit. Substituting the state for God as provider has been the inherent common thread in all Marxist regimes.
Obama's Politics of Collective Redemption
By Kyle-Anne Shiver
teton99 3 years ago
sorry but you are mindless if you vote for or believe anything this clown says
celinenj08 3 years ago 3
Another contradiction is his plan for change which means Come Help A Negro Get Elected. lol.
inthenite42 3 years ago
Just face it. Your Messiah is a phony!!!
tmwtpbrent14 3 years ago 2
It's pretty easy to make statements look contradictory when you take broad statements from several-second-long snippets of different interviews/speeches and then just stamp them together.
yorick8080 3 years ago
No.
He says that "those are not statements that I ever heard," presumably talking specifically about the contents of the controversial sermons, where he said things like "God damn America for killing innocent people."
In the next clip, he admits he heard him say "remarks that could be considered controversial." That could mean anything.
And his admitting he knew he was a critic of American policy doesn't mean he heard him say things like "(American) terrorism begets terrorism."
yorick8080 3 years ago
What do Osama and Obama have in common?
They have friends who bombed the Pentagon.
patriciaoday 3 years ago
Obama went on O'Reilly and said he didn't ever hear Rev. Wright say anything negative.
Obama is such a liar! Obama is such a racist!
Niki877 3 years ago 2
obama is gay
Z4N30 3 years ago
Where, exactly, is the contradiction?
yorick8080 3 years ago
are you fucking serious? you obviously didnt watch it to well. watch it again bitch
p.s. obama is gay
Z4N30 3 years ago
Wow... with such a thoughtful, well-structured argument, I don't think a retort is even feasible on my part.
Or maybe I just can't be bothered to respond with any vigor to nescient statements that seem more fitting for an 11 year old boy than a 28 year old man.
P.S. Grow a fucking brain.
yorick8080 3 years ago
Absolutley right never had substance never will
Codenamemilo6789 3 years ago
Don't dare criticise the Mesiah! If you do your automatically a racist!
rentacop30 3 years ago
lol taken out of context
Kujien 3 years ago
"Back in Hawaii in the 1970s, it could seem that everyone was some kind of a minority. The fact that Obama was half-black and half-white didn't matter much to anyone but Obama, Kakugawa says: "He made everything out like it was all racial." On one occasion, Obama thought he'd gotten a bad break on the school basketball team because he was black. But Kakugawa recalls his father's telling the teenager,... (continued below...)
ObamaPlaysRaceCard 3 years ago 4
"No, Barry, it's not because you're black. It's because you missed two shots in a row." (Here, Kakugawa's memory is different from Obama's. The Ray character in the book is the one obsessed with being discriminated against.)"
Source: newsweek
ObamaPlaysRaceCard 3 years ago 4
"When Barry Became Barack
NEWSWEEK
Keith Kakugawa was a close friend of Obama's at the Punahou School. (He appears in "Dreams" as a revised character named "Ray" who may be a composite of more than one Obama friend.) He says that Obama, being a dark-skinned kid growing up in a white household, sensed that something was amiss. "He felt that he was not getting a part of who he was, the history," says Kakugawa, who is also of mixed race." (continued below...)
ObamaPlaysRaceCard 3 years ago 2
u people dont talk about laying if u r fan of hilary!! u guys r ridicolous!
ciaavash 3 years ago
he's great at talking and looking nice, but he says nothing of substance. change we can believe in? change from my parents' pockets to fund useless programs?
jhk1987 3 years ago 4
This video says it like it is.
2008 - NOT Obama!!!!!
o7jimmy 3 years ago 6
wright's diatribe made my skin crawl. I don't see how Obama can ever distance himself enough from Wright at this point.
I feel that Wright lacks any understanding of the difficulties of females in our society.
I feel that Obama also lacks this awareness. He seems smug to me. He seems like a lot of men I have worked with over the years; his opinion of himself is somewhat higher than my opinion of him.
harborsparrow 4 years ago 3
So what are our options? Hitlery? McLame?
eekdog2005 4 years ago
Liar liar pants on fire
greennovel 4 years ago 7
BARACK OBAMA: LIES YOU CAN BELIEVE IN.
bob23j 4 years ago 5
he picked the church as an adult, WENT 20 YEARS, donated $23,000 recently, named his book for the vulgar "pastor", had his children baptized by the racist pig, for years dragged his young, innocent daughters to drink in the HATE-WHITEY, HATE-AMERICA rants...and then made this vile bigot pastor a CAMPAIGN OFFICIAL!
And we are supposed to believe he's a UNITER?
It was a pretty speech by a great scriptwriter, but 20 years of his actions say the opposite....
Breezeee 4 years ago
Obama wrote the speech...They were his words and he meant them. Comments like this make me think it's time to give up on America, because we've forgotten how to think for ourselves.
kosstheory 4 years ago
So, I've been reading these comments, and I had an epiphany. I'm not often moved in this way, but I'm genuinely concerned that Obama's speech may have been like 'pearls to swine.' I don't mean that in a bad way...It just feels like people really didn't get what he was saying. It makes me ponder whether or education system has fallen that far short. It's a sad time for America when 'we the people' allow the media to distort and even create our truth. Listen with your own ears 4 1nce.
kosstheory 4 years ago
Welcome to the club. Have you ever read Bush's speeches prior to the Iraq war. There was no talk of imminent threat or any of the other stuff Bush is supposedly to have lied about. At least in the case, it is Obama's actual statements that are being used against him and not something his VP said 6 months after the fact.
FRRight 4 years ago
Well, atleast you admit that his words are being used against him. My only issue with it is that the words are being taken out of context and used against him through distortion and misdirection. Maybe your world is black and white, but mine is grey. Things are not one way or the other, they are analogue representations of an infinite set of permutations possible. Simply put, you can mold things to seem anyway you like, and for you that will be the truth, no matter what. The media knows this.
kosstheory 4 years ago
How is Obama's word's being taken out of context? Obama has stated on Fox he heard none of those statements from the pews, then he states he has heard controversial statements in church. The spin from the Obmaminites is incredible. Obama's quotes are in perfect context.
FRRight 4 years ago 3
"those statements" is refering to the ones being asked about in the interview. It's obvious he's heard some statements from some pews, that's why you sit in pews, to listen. Obama was refering to specific statements when he said he hadn't heard 'them.' I submit that there's no way that pastor would have a congregation with a single white member if all he did day in and day out is say things like "God Damn America." The media makes it seem that way, but common sense says otherwise. Look it up...
kosstheory 4 years ago
When Major Garrett asked Obama, Garrett made no reference to any specific statements. Obama voluntarily said "None of these statements". You can parse all day what 'these statements' meant, but it is no different than Bill Clinton trying to redefine 'is'.
FRRight 4 years ago
Why didn't Obama tap his good friend, Pastor Wright, on the shoulder and quietly tell him he disagreed with his "divisive" comments?
Is Obama ONLY able to preach racial harmony when he is speaking through a microphone to strangers?
eksdem 4 years ago
How do you know what the man has or has not done? Simply telling someone that they have gone too far, doesn't mean they're going to do what you tell them to do.
kosstheory 4 years ago
Obama said he "WOULD HAVE" spoken with Wright "IF" he felt Wright was wrong.
eksdem 4 years ago
The Anderson 360 question was after a specific clip, but the Major Garrett question on Fox was more general and Obama gave a much broader answer -
OBAMA: "When I saw these statements, many of which I had heard for the first time, then I thought it was important to make a very clear and unequivocal statement. None of these statements were ones that I had heard myself personally in the pews."
So you have a point on the CNN interview, but not on the statement on Fox.
FRRight 4 years ago
Again, saying that he has heard some statements and not others is not a contradiction. Obama made it clear in his speech that when he felt the pastor said something inappropriate he would call him on it. The problem with all of this, is that the media gives no real context for any of these reports. It's pieced together to make an argument, usually one that will result in the highest ratings.
kosstheory 4 years ago
Obama is on record as saying he heard NONE of those statements. Is NONE that complex of a word for you? He then parsed it and said he only heard some of those statements after he started to run but not from the pews. Now he heard controversial statements in Church. What is your defense, that Obama was not sitting in the Pews when he heard those statements in Church? Really lame.
FRRight 4 years ago
obama is a walking piece of rhetoric. he says nothing of substance
jhk1987 3 years ago 12
Couldn't have said it better myself.
BigGator5 3 years ago 3
AGREED! His speaches sound really nice, untill you listen to him and realize"hey wait he actually just said nothing at all that he will actually come through with."
Hannahgymnastbabe 3 years ago
you could say that about Palin and McCain. Obama's DNC speech had more substance than all of RNC speeches put together in terms of solid plans and mechanisms to put them into action.
luceys 3 years ago
Ask yourself, if a pastor preaches one million words over a 30 year career, what percentage of those words would have to be racially charged in order to make him a biggot?
kosstheory 4 years ago
>>>Ask yourself, if a pastor preaches one million words over a 30 year career, what percentage of those words would have to be racially charged in order to make him a biggot?
If it were Rush Limbaugh, exactly one word would be sufficient.
FRRight 4 years ago
If that's your stance...I don't think Limbaugh is, but to each his/her own.
kosstheory 4 years ago
Your point may be accurate concerning this video, but the defense of Obama is pointless. He sat in a racist church for 20 years. Prople in that church applauded the racist comments. Not only was the Pastor racist, but the congregation is racist. If you sit in a congregation that is racist, YOU are a racist to even stay there. People leave church and discuss sermons: what did these people talk about when they went to lunch after church? I bet it was NOT John 3:16
usmc7242 4 years ago
Most of what you're saying is based on one simple misconception. This is why these clips have been aired, to convince people that Obama is a racist. One could find clips that make the exact opposite argument using the very same church sermons. It's all in presentation and spin. It's actually a masterful move. The media knows that there are people who need a 'valid' reason to attack Obama. All that had to be done was to give a nudge in the direction of their choosing.
kosstheory 4 years ago
We are being lied to when we are told that Wright is speaking in the "prophetic" tradition.
Prophets are commanded to speak directly to the sinners, telling them to repent.
Prophets do not bad-mouth non-black sinners from pulpits of all-black churches.
eksdem 4 years ago
It has bothered me since listening to Obama's speech.I heard him speak about his Grandmother. I was appalled to hear Senator Obama compare his "white" grandmother to Reverend Wright, (did he "cringe" every time he heard his mentor speak????). I believe she tried to help him as much as she could.He should be thanking her for raising him, not embarrassing her in front of the world. My God the woman was the first woman vice-president of a local bank In Hawaii !!!! Shame on you Senator Obama!!!
blackirishblonde 4 years ago
I think this doesn't help Obama's credibility.
And I thought having all those American flags on the stage with him seemed a bit like he was wrapping himself around the American flag after his minister's G** D*** America comments.
chessdad3 4 years ago
I think it hurts his credibility with people who allow the media to do their thinking for them. Honestly, I could have made this clip with Windows Moviemaker, and one hand tied behind my back. Furthermore, you can take anything and make it seems like something it's not, religious zealots, hell even religious moderates, do this to doctrines of all religions all of the time. When you have someone's ear and you lace 'truth' with a thin layer of lie or misdirection, you can convince them of a lot.
kosstheory 4 years ago
Yeah, Pastors all over the country immediately after 9-11 were saying "God Damn America"....
...unless he was mocking someone else (which he most certainly was not) there was no excuse for making such an asinine statement. The statements were in context, the statements were hateful, the statements were offensive to average Americans.
The only people I see trying to lice the truth with misdirection are the Obaminites. Obama lied.
FRRight 4 years ago 2
You and I both know that my ref to context had to do with Obama's interview and speech. Your inability to see misdirection from anyone other than 'Obamanites' is a clear gauge of how thuroughly the media has your head.
kosstheory 4 years ago
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I'm not Voting for Jeremiah Wright any more than I suspect that free thinking Republicans are voting for Pat Robertson or John Hagee who McCain was "honored" to be endorsed by despite Hagee's numerous bigoted remarks — including his claim that the Catholic church is "the Great Whore" and a "false cult system."
dejuredc 4 years ago
The Truth is in the Pudding!! Will He Lie YES HE WILL! and you just did numerous times... what else are you hiding??
VicRock13 4 years ago
This is a foolish argument. When he says he knew about Wright's controversial views, he's talking about the fiery, passionate rhetoric that is typical of many prominent black churches. Those statements are vastly different from the ugly and appalling opinions that have been repeated the last few days on television. Obama wasn't aware of "God damn America", "US created AIDS", etc., until recently. He did know that Wright could be incendiary, just not at that level.
JMAG117 4 years ago