damn everyone speaks of jari!!!! the album Death Unlimited by Norther is 1 billion times better than anything jari could ever dream to produce this jari is so out of rhythmm and he repeats the same solo it goes like this sweep tap bend sweep tap bend next solo sweep sweep tap tap bend sweep that was different pffftttt petri lindroos is a god if you ask me and jari is a mere mortal hail Suomi!!!!
@adriankalebra666 *a big crowd that gasps for air in shock* How dare you say that about Jari, or should I say, GOD! what kind of fucking arguement was that anyway, basically what you just said was that Jari was a mere mortal, then what the fuck are you? some kind of underground shiteater? Bitch please...
@adriankalebra666 *a big crowd that gasps for air in shock* How dare you say that about Jari, or should I say, GOD! what kind of fucking arguement was that anyway, basically what you just said was that Jari is a mere mortal, then what the fuck are you? some kind of underground shiteater? Bitch please...
how do you mean "Ensiferum had good guitars"? Ensiferum is the band.. if Markus or Petri not doing a good job well you can just go listen to Wintersun its cool the rest of us (Ensiferum Fans) will do good with out you and everybody else who just doesnt like petri.. or anything new they are doing.
Yeah but its freaking JARI!!! I mean who compares to him in song writing? I honestly can't think of a soul...Can't wait for Wintersun's new album! Maybe Akerfeldt can compare to Jari, personally I take Jari still...
Agree'd. Henri Sorvali is easily the best folk metal musician. Just look at the plethora of work he has done to the genre and to his own work. Simply amazing.
Also, don't forget that Toivonen wrote nearly all of the self titled, with Jari co-writing on 3 songs. And Iron was virtually a co-written album between to two. (The only 2 songs written only by Jari being Sword Chant and Lai Lai Hei)
Personally, i like Wintersun more than Ensiferum, but I like Victory songs more than any Ensiferum fan.
@andyscoot43 With all do respect to Jari and his musical talent, I believe he did not really belong with Ensiferum and I am glad not that everyone is where they should be. Wintersun needs a Jari to keep it going and Ensiferum needed people who'd be more the style Markus wants Ensiferum to go on.
you know i agree jari is very talented eventhough hes in wintersun and he is doing.... well ok... after getting kicked out of Norther, petri really made Ensiferum come alive alot more.. he brought alittle of his style and knowledge of metal and made really good progress i mean just hear the album "from afar". Honestly jari is a very talented person like you said but what really what i think made Ensiferum the leaders or folk metal is their sound and it came with petri..
i love vicory fans. i guess my taste for from afar just hasnt "set in yet". but the entitled album, iron, and wintersun are my favorite albums of all time. and coming from a guitar players prespective jari is like a god to me haha. i respect your opinion though, you set a valid point
I find it so annoying that all these hardcore Jari fans constantly put down Petri. They have different styles! Jari left on his own choice. And I don't know about what everyone else thinks but I cant think of a better replacement than Pete. So get over it! move on.
Can't agree more, besides I believe Pete brought so much of his own, Jari might be good, but he is not as Ensiferum as Petri. I am really glad with how things stand now: Jari and Wintersun, Pete and Ensiferum (no Norther any more)
(Just take a look at how happy Markus looks on stage these years)
That has never been a point of discussion, since one can only agree with it. Ensiferum could, would have never been and can never be without the one and only Markus Toivonen. As Sami keeps saying, Markus IS indeed the heart and soul of Ensiferum.
I totally understand your anger. Markus has always been Ensiferum. As you said they are if not idiots then ignorants. Markus is the very soul of Ensiferum, every true fan knows that. These people do not even see the direction ENsiferum's headed now, it is simply great, amazing.
I see here 'theblacklvlage's comment and I can only strictly disagree. Jari could never be Ensiferum, he could be Wintersun all by himself but not Ensiferum, never could he dream of composing Markus' melodies, ever!
Great band. Jari was a way, way, way, WAY better Guitar player... but that being said there is no greater replacement for him out there than Petri.
I actually find the drummer the most impressive. He barely moves at all and is so loose considering what he is playing. You could almost balance a glass of water on his head he's so still!
@Jestepher And yet I know no other Drummer making the same sound as Janne does with his beats. He is way more energetic than what most people believe.
@Jestepher I can't believe someone made this comment. See while I was watching video it was the exactly fu*king thing I though about. I mean on the drummer. This song is like 180 bpm with double time rhytm pattern, and double bass on the choruses and he's doing it like it is some plain beat of a pop ballad.
@Jestepher Its to play more accurate, I find staying calmer, and sometimes even closing my eyes improves my accuracy on the bass drum while playing like 240bpm bass drum .Just listen to how good the drums sound here and how perfect all his drumming is.
I kill my voice for the night yelling that whenever I hear this song, and in concert I kill my voice for about three or four days, lol. Go Ensiferum! \m/
@gibbygibson666 yeah and Jari has a habit of taking rather normal sweeping patterns and arrange them in such a way that its hard as fuck to play them at full speed. :)
Petri has a completely different style than Jari. He can sweep, but chooses to stick more to the thrash metal style in my opinion. THe solos there are not so sweepy
Jari and Petri both just as good because now we have 2 good bands not just one
doomista2007 4 months ago 4
Seeing Ensiferum in concert in November. FUCK YES!!!
DeliciousDivo 6 months ago
3:23 Hurting Scream
MrByniss 8 months ago
Oh god I love Petri's pants.. Sooooo sexy!
Himmee13 10 months ago 2
I'm pretty sure i had my clothes on before this song started...
TriszzBrownstone 1 year ago 9
2:40 that is the part where i lose my balance and go berserk.
tarikay93 1 year ago 5
the drummer looks funny at the other when they headbang^^
Zugtonyistcool 1 year ago
TÄTTTÄDÄÄÄTTTÄDDDÄÄÄÄ.... Vitun hyvä....
MrLuukku 1 year ago 3
HAIL TO BOTH PETRI AND JARI, LOVE EM BOTH, NO NEED TO COMPARE, I GOT ENSIFERUM AND WINTERSUN IM HAPPY AS A TREE
Seign420 1 year ago 7
Now THIS is metal!
FretlessDeviant 1 year ago
damn everyone speaks of jari!!!! the album Death Unlimited by Norther is 1 billion times better than anything jari could ever dream to produce this jari is so out of rhythmm and he repeats the same solo it goes like this sweep tap bend sweep tap bend next solo sweep sweep tap tap bend sweep that was different pffftttt petri lindroos is a god if you ask me and jari is a mere mortal hail Suomi!!!!
adriankalebra666 1 year ago
@adriankalebra666 *a big crowd that gasps for air in shock* How dare you say that about Jari, or should I say, GOD! what kind of fucking arguement was that anyway, basically what you just said was that Jari was a mere mortal, then what the fuck are you? some kind of underground shiteater? Bitch please...
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@adriankalebra666 *a big crowd that gasps for air in shock* How dare you say that about Jari, or should I say, GOD! what kind of fucking arguement was that anyway, basically what you just said was that Jari is a mere mortal, then what the fuck are you? some kind of underground shiteater? Bitch please...
GitarrSnubben666 1 year ago
@adriankalebra666
LOL
you fail at recognizing greatest.
Wintersun songs are just probably too complexed for your ears
And please share these Videos of Jari being so off Rythm. I'd like to hear them
Agnes135 1 year ago
Petri Lindroos, one of the best vocalist&guitarrist
Norther without him is nothing, and with ensiferum is fucking great, fuck yeah
MikelMetalYoung 1 year ago 3
Petri makes a good work in Ensiferum ....
Zapuzime 1 year ago 2
I dunno... I like the stuff they did with Petri better than the stuff they did with Jari. I like Petris growly vocals better.
MikeBsMovies 1 year ago
petri's voice is so much better now, than here
TheFlanagator 2 years ago 2
the band lost more or less 30% without jari. period.
Ok, markus is obviously the soul of ensiferum, but without the guitar/vocal of jari the band will never be the same
Eviltiaz 2 years ago
Ensiferum had good guitars.
Now it doesn't Lol
Jari could be ensiferum by himself.
theblacklvlage 2 years ago
@theblacklvlage
how do you mean "Ensiferum had good guitars"? Ensiferum is the band.. if Markus or Petri not doing a good job well you can just go listen to Wintersun its cool the rest of us (Ensiferum Fans) will do good with out you and everybody else who just doesnt like petri.. or anything new they are doing.
Pheonxiix 2 years ago 2
I like Jari's Ensiferum.
Their guitar solos are pathetic. (Markus' and Petri's)
You can defend them all you want, Jari is better, and, subsequently, made Ensiferum better.
Thats why you're commenting on a song written mostly by Jari, 10 years ago. Lol
Pheonxiix (Love the spelling) fails.
theblacklvlage 2 years ago
yea i know its jari's song look we can keep this going but as much but we want to see jari back but we wont
Pheonxiix 2 years ago
In case you didn't get it, Ensiferum is not about solos and show offs.
nodeterin 2 years ago
Yeah but its freaking JARI!!! I mean who compares to him in song writing? I honestly can't think of a soul...Can't wait for Wintersun's new album! Maybe Akerfeldt can compare to Jari, personally I take Jari still...
XionComrade 2 years ago
Henri Sorvali.
hobodoctor 2 years ago
Agree'd. Henri Sorvali is easily the best folk metal musician. Just look at the plethora of work he has done to the genre and to his own work. Simply amazing.
andyscoot43 2 years ago
Stop talking like Jari formed Ensiferum.
Also, don't forget that Toivonen wrote nearly all of the self titled, with Jari co-writing on 3 songs. And Iron was virtually a co-written album between to two. (The only 2 songs written only by Jari being Sword Chant and Lai Lai Hei)
Personally, i like Wintersun more than Ensiferum, but I like Victory songs more than any Ensiferum fan.
Don't be a dick.
andyscoot43 2 years ago
@andyscoot43 With all do respect to Jari and his musical talent, I believe he did not really belong with Ensiferum and I am glad not that everyone is where they should be. Wintersun needs a Jari to keep it going and Ensiferum needed people who'd be more the style Markus wants Ensiferum to go on.
nodeterin 1 year ago 3
Lol Jari IS Wintersun by himself XD Literally!
XionComrade 2 years ago
let me just end this fighting for who is better jari or petri....
\m/ hail petri
he is and will be the future for Ensiferum
Pheonxiix 2 years ago 2
@Pheonxiix
dude i have tons of respect for petri. but common, jari is the most talented guy in metal. in all music for that matter
80smetalchild 2 years ago
@80smetalchild
you know i agree jari is very talented eventhough hes in wintersun and he is doing.... well ok... after getting kicked out of Norther, petri really made Ensiferum come alive alot more.. he brought alittle of his style and knowledge of metal and made really good progress i mean just hear the album "from afar". Honestly jari is a very talented person like you said but what really what i think made Ensiferum the leaders or folk metal is their sound and it came with petri..
Pheonxiix 2 years ago
i love vicory fans. i guess my taste for from afar just hasnt "set in yet". but the entitled album, iron, and wintersun are my favorite albums of all time. and coming from a guitar players prespective jari is like a god to me haha. i respect your opinion though, you set a valid point
80smetalchild 2 years ago
He wasn't kicked out, he had to choose between Ensiferum and Norther and he enjoyed playing with Ensiferum more so he chose them.
prickenoveriTB 1 year ago
I find it so annoying that all these hardcore Jari fans constantly put down Petri. They have different styles! Jari left on his own choice. And I don't know about what everyone else thinks but I cant think of a better replacement than Pete. So get over it! move on.
melodeath793 2 years ago 6
Can't agree more, besides I believe Pete brought so much of his own, Jari might be good, but he is not as Ensiferum as Petri. I am really glad with how things stand now: Jari and Wintersun, Pete and Ensiferum (no Norther any more)
(Just take a look at how happy Markus looks on stage these years)
nodeterin 2 years ago 4
The real power of Ensiferum has always and will always be Markus because he has always wrote most of the music!!
So Markus wins
melodeath793 2 years ago 4
That has never been a point of discussion, since one can only agree with it. Ensiferum could, would have never been and can never be without the one and only Markus Toivonen. As Sami keeps saying, Markus IS indeed the heart and soul of Ensiferum.
nodeterin 2 years ago
Some idiots say that ensiferum sucked after jari left like markus doesnt matter. fuck them
melodeath793 2 years ago 2
I totally understand your anger. Markus has always been Ensiferum. As you said they are if not idiots then ignorants. Markus is the very soul of Ensiferum, every true fan knows that. These people do not even see the direction ENsiferum's headed now, it is simply great, amazing.
I see here 'theblacklvlage's comment and I can only strictly disagree. Jari could never be Ensiferum, he could be Wintersun all by himself but not Ensiferum, never could he dream of composing Markus' melodies, ever!
nodeterin 2 years ago
qué buena rola!!!!
oblsa 2 years ago
You never realize how much Petri's vocals are lacking till he tries to sing songs Jari recorded...
hobodoctor 2 years ago
awesome!!
thunderchunky123 2 years ago 3
Great band. Jari was a way, way, way, WAY better Guitar player... but that being said there is no greater replacement for him out there than Petri.
I actually find the drummer the most impressive. He barely moves at all and is so loose considering what he is playing. You could almost balance a glass of water on his head he's so still!
Jestepher 2 years ago 42
I too love that about the drummer. He really keeps relaxed while playing. I'm practicing that myself, but I'm far from his level yet.
Baktor 2 years ago 3
@Jestepher And yet I know no other Drummer making the same sound as Janne does with his beats. He is way more energetic than what most people believe.
nodeterin 1 year ago
@Jestepher petri is not bad guitarist, if u listen just a moment for some norther solos u will know i am talking about...
banag11 1 year ago 3
@Jestepher
"You could almost balance a glass of water on his head he's so still!"... which is kinda good for him but strange for a metal band isn't it?
grillemall 1 year ago
@Jestepher I can't believe someone made this comment. See while I was watching video it was the exactly fu*king thing I though about. I mean on the drummer. This song is like 180 bpm with double time rhytm pattern, and double bass on the choruses and he's doing it like it is some plain beat of a pop ballad.
PhoenixTomislav 1 year ago
@Jestepher actually Petri is considered one of the best guitar players in Finland and yes Jari is better but i wouldnt at all say way better
galanoth619 1 year ago
@galanoth619 fucking WAY better... Petri isnt really that good
6EELZE6U6666 1 year ago
@Jestepher Its to play more accurate, I find staying calmer, and sometimes even closing my eyes improves my accuracy on the bass drum while playing like 240bpm bass drum .Just listen to how good the drums sound here and how perfect all his drumming is.
Iamyo0tube 6 months ago
DUH DUH DA DUH!!!, DUH DUH DA DUH!!!!
I kill my voice for the night yelling that whenever I hear this song, and in concert I kill my voice for about three or four days, lol. Go Ensiferum! \m/
PowerMetalBeast 2 years ago
Petri should just learn the Jari solos.
i bet he could learn to sweep. Don't be a baddie Petri!
HammerSmashedRob 2 years ago
petri can sweep
its just not his style
hes doin wat all good guitarists should do, and that is turn solos into theyre own.
its funner to play solos and make them your own. rather then cloneing one note for note
gibbygibson666 2 years ago 36
@gibbygibson666 yeah and Jari has a habit of taking rather normal sweeping patterns and arrange them in such a way that its hard as fuck to play them at full speed. :)
The7DeadlyStrings 1 year ago 2
petri can sweep...it might be an ego thing haha
o3mattman 2 years ago
Petri isn't that good, I doubt he could do Jari's sweeps, he is good for what he is, but Jari's work is fucking hard.
WarHeartInme 2 years ago
Petri has a completely different style than Jari. He can sweep, but chooses to stick more to the thrash metal style in my opinion. THe solos there are not so sweepy
WowVengeance 2 years ago 2
yup he's a big trash metal fan..
bowjifuckoff 2 years ago
He very much is, and people who dont believe us listen to him in Norther!
WowVengeance 2 years ago
+ he has alot of slayer t-shirts :) hah
bowjifuckoff 2 years ago
Petri's a great cover for Jari. I think it's a shame that Petri had to leave Norther.
Petri and Jari..they're so fucking talented.
nerdheadbanger 2 years ago 3
EPIC.
fridaywithjason 2 years ago
saw em twice last year, i love them live!
frizost666 2 years ago
TATA RARA !!! TATA RARA !!!!
cuerdasdeacero09 3 years ago
one of few bands where them live sounds almost better than their albums
Thor1261 3 years ago
Very true!
melodeath793 2 years ago 4
Saw them twice live, it sounds way better live that on their album for most of their songs. Best fucking band ever!
cobmax 3 years ago
This song kicks so much ass live. DA DA DA DA! DA DA DA DA!
spankyman86 3 years ago 3
Greatest band ever.
Ensiferum03 3 years ago 4
OMFG I LOVE THEM best band I can't live without listening them at least one time per day .____. best performance, saw them live ==> fuckin' awesome
HydrasTeeth 3 years ago 3
its not fair that petri should have to learn that solo. its so fucking hard lol
LPH69 3 years ago
people were bashing him for that... I think he played in pretty damn well considering that it is a jari solo. Both Petri and Jari are GODS!!!!
salsasnacker 2 years ago 4
ATARARATARATARATA!
TheWinterWakee 3 years ago 2
tattatatatratatata iaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
liesrock 3 years ago 5
awesome performance
IcyWarlord 3 years ago 8