@JohnRSamples. Very much enjoyed your "searching" from "Conquest of nihilism." Clearly you have a good guitar technique, and an ear for drama in music which I like. I'm also very new. Nothing online yet. I am too shy perhaps.
I have composed something very similar to this. Iannis told me in 1998 to go to college and learn more math. This I did. I wish Alabama was not so dull.
@badazzpresidents23 and I thought Schoenberg and Berg were radical...this stuff is beyond my understanding of what constitutes "art". Because this is art that I wouldn't every pay w/time to listen to.
@dalecampbl9 This guy has created some of the best compositions I have ever heard. Xenakis, Roger Sessions, Harry Partch, John Cage, Pierre Schaeffer, Dick Raajimakers, Edgard Varese, Frank Zappa, these are the giants of 20th century composers.
@badazzpresidents23 I'm not familiar with most of those you listed besides Cage and Xenakis...but if they all sound alike, they are all crap. How about I set my piano on fire and then play a chopin etude on it until the piano burn down to the ground...is that art? is that "new" and "innovative"...for god sakes, apply some common sense
@dalecampbl9 I don't really like Scheonberg all that much, and I agree with Xenakis when he says that the 'twelve-tone technique' is flawed and inharmonious. As with most forms of music I don't like very much of it except a select few. I don't just listen to this stuff, by the way. I listen to all genres of music (with the exception of dubstep). I like delta blues, all forms of jazz, surf rock, certain genres in rock music, folk music, bluegrass, all forms of metal, etc.
@badazzpresidents23 we are all so privileged to have modern technology bring us all this variety of music at low cost and with accessible ease. i still think modern classical musicians should try to re-write what is beautiful as opposed to writing what sounds like noise to me. just my 2 cents. I totally see where classical music is heading, evolutionarily speaking...I just dislike the fact it must evolve into this because to me it's a devolution.
@dalecampbl9 I would make the argument that all music is just 'noise.' But i do understand where you are coming from. This is just noise. But, it is composed noise. Which is why I only like a select few, who were masters at this. There are a number of popular musicians inspired by such music. Sonic Youth, Frank Zappa, Buckethead, Faith No More, just to name a few.
@dalecampbl9 They don't all sound the same. That's why I like them. They were the best (in my opinion) of all the avant-garde composers because they had something that was their own to offer. Oh, and as for common sense, you should take in to regard that Xenakis was a mathematician, architect, and composer. His compositions represent the connection between math and music more so than anything else I have ever heard. I don't like all avant-garde composers, by the way.
When I studied music at the university, I welcomed the way 20th century composers just stomped on stuffy, sickeningly safe sounding overused traditions. I am proud to be in the company of Xenakis, way off the mainstream path. My name: FLYING CLOUD NINE. My latest work: Google this >>> "soundcloud, flying cloud nine, symphony of a rogue cloud"
Olivier Messiaen and Georgy Ligety were in concentration camps, Iannis Xenakis suffered serious head injury, Henryk Gorecki went through numerous operations, Karlnheinz Stockhausen was orphaned at an early age... seems XX century avantguarde music is related to some serious traumas.
@sonic777111 This was the original graphic score that Xenakis created to represent his ideas on a large scale. The actual score is also handwritten but has traditional notation for every instrument of the orchestra. What you see in the video is just the starting point.
Esta pieza está basada en el desplazamiento continuo de una línea recta. Tal
modelo se representa en la música como un glisando continuo. La contracción y
expansión del registro y la densidad a través del movimiento continuo son ilustraciones de las leyes estocásticas. Esta obra sirvió como modelo para la construcción del pabellón Philips que, junto con Le Corbusier, Xenakis construyó para la exposición internacional de Bruselas, de 1958. En tal estructura no hay superficies planas.
@Shiyuru999, yes, hmm hmm hmm yes it is. It is a synthesis of dodecaphonic melismatic cartography, tuberculosis, endocardial osmosis, ad hoc verbatim, quid pro quo, articulatory aleatoric transference, measles, monomania, and ulcerative colitis. The ectoplasmic stimulation afforded by this exceedingly complex masterpiece is so sophisticated that it will likely cause seizures in all lesser species of plebian, proletarian pedestrians.
This isn't music to listen to so much as it is music to expand your consciousness and really test your intelligence and ability to concentrate and literally think about the composition as it goes along and piece together the frame of it in your mind.
Please... stop that. I know you like this a lot, and I'll admit it's good music, but seriously, nothing kills the credibility of artist and audience alike faster than describing a piece as music to pretend to be smart by.
I'm sorry, but in my opinion, claiming one work inherently makes you smarter than anything else for listening to it just makes you sound like a poser. It reflects badly on everyone who has ever had anything to do with it by implying that it has no appeal beyond inflating the listener's ego.
Some of us just find it aesthetically pleasing and don't give a crap about how smart others think they are for sitting through it. That should be fine enough, shouldn't it?
@ExcessiveSpareTime You misunderstood what I said. I don't mean this one work alone, I mean 20th century modern/avant-garde classical music as a whole. It has a lot of appeal beyond inflating ego, but you seem more involved in attacking people that actually understanding where they are coming from, even if the words come out a little bit wrong. I find this music to be more intellectually stimulating than most other forms of music that I've listened to, what is wrong with saying that?
@ExcessiveSpareTime I find this to be extremely pleasing in terms of sonic textures and of instrumental arrangements and placements of notes/noises, but if you look beyond all that and you don't like it for the listenability, you can still have appreciation for it and take interest in it at a compositional level.
I studied music in college, and I actually hated music like this when I first heard it. To me, much 20th century classical music was little more than musical exercises resulting in noise.
But it also planted seeds in my brain, and as the years passed my knowledge expanded and my ear adapted. While I still don't care for much serial music, I'm very fond of dynamic contemporary classical compositions, such as this one. What was once noise to me, is now stimulating, fascinating, moving.
@zenmachinefilms Some of the later avant-garde composers to me felt like hacks of people like Xenakis or Sessions or Varese or Schoenberg. But there were a lot of greats. Some are still alive, like Pauline Oliveros.
Αυτο το κομμάτι ακούγαμε πισω στο 84 όταν με θέα το ηλιοβασίλεμα της υπέροχης σαντορίνης μας μαζι με την γυναίκα μου. Με το άκουσμα αυτού του τραγουδιού της ζήτησα να γίνει γυναίκα μου. Τώρα μετά απο 27 χρόνια και τρία παιδιά ακούμε αυτό το υπέροχο κομμάτι και νιώθουμε σαν να μην πέρασ εμια μέρα. Σε ευχαριστούμε γιάννη για την υπέροχη μουσική που μας πρόσφερεσ. Να είσαι καλά εκέι πάνω...
@painkiller901901 Αυτό είναι δείγμα πραγματικής αγάπης. Το οτι σφραγίσατε τον γάμο σας υπο τους ήχους αυτής της ΦΡΙΧΤΗΣ μουσικής δείχνει πόσο δοσμένοι είσαστε. Με τον ίδιο τρόπο οι χριστιανοί σφραγίζανε την μαρτυρία τους στα βασανιστήρια.
Αυτό που δεν καταλαβαίνω όμως είναι το γιατί υποβάλλετε και τα παιδιά σας σε αυτό το μαρτύριο !?
This type of music is what is called Absolute Determinism. It means that instead of the music being based off of emotions, it is based off of equations (used by computers) to generate randomness. The reason why it is so weird and kind of scary is because it is meant to be random in almost every aspect. Meter, pitch...etc.
well, this isn't music at all^^ it's another kind of audative arts that includes some aspects of harmony :)
but I have to say, I really don't enjoy those works, no beauty, no thrill, for me, they are nothing but boring. may some other people find fun and peace in this, may they be glad to have found someone like Xenakis. I just hope Xenakis doesn't overrate this work, even if there are people who love it, I really assume, this is not a genius' stroke.
I'll never try to convince anyone of the beauty and the force of this fondamental piece composed by Y.X. Sorry for those who can't appreciate it, maybe in a future life, I hope. Anyway, there are so many things to listen that everyone can find what he likes.
@TheDepressed100 Sadly, I was a fan of Orchid well before I was a fan of this piece (or even aware of its existence). Orchid is an amazing band--certainly one of the best punk artists ever--and that is an amazing song.
@TheDepressed100 Well yeah, that goes without saying. I never mentioned that band though; I was just putting them happily along side of greats like Fugazi, At the Drive-In and Minutemen.
I believe many people find it difficult to empathize with these musical ideas because of the acculturation of tonality. I think that we're still just too adjusted to the tonal hierarchies in traditional tonality.
Let us remember Stravinsky and the turbulence that ensued at the Rite of Spring premiere because of the harmonic and rhythmic dissonances that shocked the audience. Now, his ballet is easily heard as lush and vibrant in its colors by many...
@FenAllo1 those riots were actually caused by the choreography, no one could hear the music. Stravinsky just wanted people to think it was because of his music so he could flaunt being misunderstood and use it to his advantage as an avant-garde composer. However, the riots at Shostakovich's 14th symphony, that was cause of the music. Also cause a critic had a stroke during the performance.
i tend to like stockhausen a bit more, but this is interesting...i'll come back and listen again at night when there are no distractions to get in the way of the music...
The three of us appreciate the fact that this piece is magnificent. Nobody has done anybody else an injustice. And I personally don't think a specific group of people "killed" opera. I think that every generation brings innovation and rebellion from the ideal s of their parents...
its such a mystery i wish i could fully understand it so i could appreciate it even more, i know the idea behind it but cant understand the reasons for everything being that way.
@kaspinio you don't have to understand everything to appreciate it, that kind of thinking kills art. There are myriad ways in which in can be appreciated.
@electrickabuki learn to read something my friend before you comment on it. I said appreciatte it even more, I even called this piece of music mystery making clear that I dont understand it but I appreciatte it. Your criticize comment is such NOT makin anysense and the most funny part is that you believe you know something about art.
@kaspinio sorry you misunderstood, I meant that there are many ways to appreciate art and that an in depth knowledge of theory is not a prerequisite for doing so. As you decided to take a petulant tone in your reply, let me point out that when you attempt to barb a person's linguistic ability you should first make sure your own is impeccable, sadly yours is not, it is, for the most part garble.
Are you one of the nazi types who think art is a competition? People like you almost killed opera!
@electrickabuki benighted, if u knew anything about art you would know that art is percieved different between people. You said my way of thinkin kills art, you ask if am I nazi..you have a nice vocabulary i give you that but no actual belief in your words thats why the meaning of your first sentense gets canceled by the second... I am not further gonna argue with someone like yourself in a video of Xenakis as i don't find it proper. good luck with your journey
What do people find appealing about the avant garde sound? I'm not trying to bash it or anything; I just don't understand it, so I'm actually just asking an honest question.
I just like it because it's not the same fucking three chords over and over again. It's different, which makes it interesting right off the bat. I wouldn't say I enjoy it like 'hey let's put some tunes on... yeah how about Xenakis!' To me, it's just more thought provoking than "regular" music is. That's just me though.
@CapnKeys Most people that enjoy it do not really think why they enjoy it. Though such music is usually but not necessarily appreciated by people with very trained ears.
@LesbianStraightGay most people like it because it's more like abstract soundscape than regular music. I doubt music skills have any influence on reception of this kind of music.
@B1SCOOP Of course, Justin Bieber fans will enjoy it! Seriously, it's a well composed piece of music. I can feel the relations between the instruments easily, it is by no means a soundscape. Though I assume that some people like because it's "interesting".
@LesbianStraightGay there is big difference between music taste and music talent. I consider myself that my music taste is slightly bigger than average but on the other hand I couldn't play any instrument or compose music.
You hear notes and instruments, I see images painted by sounds. Is anything wrong with that?
@CapnKeys It's not music in the sense of harmony and melody in the traditional sense you might think of it, though you could say that those are here, they just exist by different means. This music is more so a dance, a dance of noises and sonic textures, as opposed to the type of purity that makes people Chopin so well-known. If you were to watch modern dance music you might get what I mean.
@psychopathtoine true, but let me tell you that when the other week i cut my left hand with the chain saw, i, personally, have had different and somewhat stronger feelings than those i am having now pushing these buttons and thinking the thoghts i am trying to communicate: do you recognize a difference, a significant difference?
around here there is no absolut (save for the vodka), everything is relative,
hence meaningful differences DO make a difference, i think (and feel).
you are right, we all have feelings all the time, even my dogs do, maybe even my computers do, even if i don't know or don't want to acknowledge this,
but one thing is to feel unconsciously the chair under your ass or to reason about a notes' sequence and another is to feel what you feel when you listen to Vivaldi or when you like somebody a lot.
what i mean is that this music is more intellectual than emotional, can you get along with this?
@preadort I think there are ofcourse somewhat feelings, no offense, or how do you distinguish human brain and computers? I believe there are still feelings, maybe at thte time when they were making choise to use their elements/compose.
Wow, that's a lot of pretentious concepts in one music piece. I sometimes can't help getting the feeling that contemporary classical music is not so much about the music anymore than about the amount of snobbish bullshit put into it. The music itself sounds nice at times but I can't give a rat's ass about the relativistic time signature blahblah.
@MageAtYou I'm sure real rebels like Joe Strummer would back you up on that. All hail the king of cool, MageAtYou, for he smote the posers with his mighty sword of righteousness and internet fury
@psychopathtoine Couldn't have said it better myself. When a piece of music is not about love or lust, it hardly has any audience, similar to some of Rachmaninoff's or Bartok's pieces (different style though).
In my opinion, it is quite simple: music is harmony. Were there no harmony, one would hear only an indefinite spectrum of noises. If some of the YouTubers here can't understand or follow this piece's harmony, I believe it is their problem.
I find this very disturbing and beautiful.
MrOscarNupra 2 weeks ago
@JohnRSamples. Very much enjoyed your "searching" from "Conquest of nihilism." Clearly you have a good guitar technique, and an ear for drama in music which I like. I'm also very new. Nothing online yet. I am too shy perhaps.
JohnRSamples 3 weeks ago
I have composed something very similar to this. Iannis told me in 1998 to go to college and learn more math. This I did. I wish Alabama was not so dull.
JohnRSamples 4 weeks ago
@JohnRSamples I'm also a composer, would you be interested to check out my stuff on my channel, I'm very new. Can I find your music online? thank you
TheEdgarvarese12 3 weeks ago
this is crap....when did it become okay to lose common sense?
dalecampbl9 1 month ago
@dalecampbl9 You have no understanding of what's really going on here.
badazzpresidents23 1 week ago
@badazzpresidents23 and I thought Schoenberg and Berg were radical...this stuff is beyond my understanding of what constitutes "art". Because this is art that I wouldn't every pay w/time to listen to.
dalecampbl9 1 week ago
@dalecampbl9 This guy has created some of the best compositions I have ever heard. Xenakis, Roger Sessions, Harry Partch, John Cage, Pierre Schaeffer, Dick Raajimakers, Edgard Varese, Frank Zappa, these are the giants of 20th century composers.
badazzpresidents23 1 week ago
@badazzpresidents23 I'm not familiar with most of those you listed besides Cage and Xenakis...but if they all sound alike, they are all crap. How about I set my piano on fire and then play a chopin etude on it until the piano burn down to the ground...is that art? is that "new" and "innovative"...for god sakes, apply some common sense
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badazzpresidents23 1 week ago
@dalecampbl9 I don't really like Scheonberg all that much, and I agree with Xenakis when he says that the 'twelve-tone technique' is flawed and inharmonious. As with most forms of music I don't like very much of it except a select few. I don't just listen to this stuff, by the way. I listen to all genres of music (with the exception of dubstep). I like delta blues, all forms of jazz, surf rock, certain genres in rock music, folk music, bluegrass, all forms of metal, etc.
badazzpresidents23 1 week ago
@badazzpresidents23 we are all so privileged to have modern technology bring us all this variety of music at low cost and with accessible ease. i still think modern classical musicians should try to re-write what is beautiful as opposed to writing what sounds like noise to me. just my 2 cents. I totally see where classical music is heading, evolutionarily speaking...I just dislike the fact it must evolve into this because to me it's a devolution.
dalecampbl9 1 week ago
@dalecampbl9 I would make the argument that all music is just 'noise.' But i do understand where you are coming from. This is just noise. But, it is composed noise. Which is why I only like a select few, who were masters at this. There are a number of popular musicians inspired by such music. Sonic Youth, Frank Zappa, Buckethead, Faith No More, just to name a few.
badazzpresidents23 1 week ago
@badazzpresidents23 I think Sonic Youth composes better music than Xenakis did
dalecampbl9 1 week ago
@dalecampbl9 listen to Psappha by Xenakis.
badazzpresidents23 1 week ago
@badazzpresidents23 okay...i found a version of it on youtube, went through it but fast skipped parts...ah...this is supposed to be great art music?
dalecampbl9 1 week ago
@dalecampbl9 Well, I can only speak for myself. I love it.
badazzpresidents23 1 week ago
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@dalecampbl9 They don't all sound the same. That's why I like them. They were the best (in my opinion) of all the avant-garde composers because they had something that was their own to offer. Oh, and as for common sense, you should take in to regard that Xenakis was a mathematician, architect, and composer. His compositions represent the connection between math and music more so than anything else I have ever heard. I don't like all avant-garde composers, by the way.
badazzpresidents23 1 week ago
When I studied music at the university, I welcomed the way 20th century composers just stomped on stuffy, sickeningly safe sounding overused traditions. I am proud to be in the company of Xenakis, way off the mainstream path. My name: FLYING CLOUD NINE. My latest work: Google this >>> "soundcloud, flying cloud nine, symphony of a rogue cloud"
RandomCriticsify 1 month ago
this is music to be chased by Terminator, a predator, a couple of aliens and jaws at the same time.
Rafantomas 1 month ago
Needs to be longer.
S0unDOfCha0S 1 month ago
My brain exploded.
cowedbywisdom 1 month ago
Wonderful !
Thanks a lot
123must 1 month ago
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10 justin bieber and 10 stockhausen song at the same time
/watch?v=xTiwpr7gcP8
andrewillis21 1 month ago
THX intro ?
YAM466 1 month ago 3
Olivier Messiaen and Georgy Ligety were in concentration camps, Iannis Xenakis suffered serious head injury, Henryk Gorecki went through numerous operations, Karlnheinz Stockhausen was orphaned at an early age... seems XX century avantguarde music is related to some serious traumas.
vokshumana 1 month ago
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ciuffoZanetti4 2 months ago
je l'ai ecouter au college
tatanonololotte 2 months ago
@jarkkkoo
Could you tell/link me to where you got this graphic score from?
NPjazzsaxmusic 2 months ago
is this the predecessor to dubstep??
shruhats 2 months ago 6
Genius maybe, however it lacks most of what I listen to music for.
Reverendjim1 3 months ago
How does this notation describe the piece...? The orchestration sounds a lot more complex than this.
sonic777111 3 months ago in playlist More videos from jarkkkoo
@sonic777111 This was the original graphic score that Xenakis created to represent his ideas on a large scale. The actual score is also handwritten but has traditional notation for every instrument of the orchestra. What you see in the video is just the starting point.
wetuadjlv 2 months ago
Sounds like the THX logo sound
Zestivity 3 months ago 3
jécoute ca a mon collège
zmiko391 3 months ago
Esta pieza está basada en el desplazamiento continuo de una línea recta. Tal
modelo se representa en la música como un glisando continuo. La contracción y
expansión del registro y la densidad a través del movimiento continuo son ilustraciones de las leyes estocásticas. Esta obra sirvió como modelo para la construcción del pabellón Philips que, junto con Le Corbusier, Xenakis construyó para la exposición internacional de Bruselas, de 1958. En tal estructura no hay superficies planas.
titOskuUn 3 months ago
Where is the graphical score from?
coasterman16 3 months ago
I now know where the soundtrack for Dead Space was inspired from...
Furnardan 3 months ago
@Furnardan Listen to "Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima" by Penderecki. It's even more noticeable there.
budemma45 3 months ago
This piece of art works just like my brain. It's stimulating in a whole different way than music usually is.
Shiyuru999 4 months ago
@Shiyuru999, yes, hmm hmm hmm yes it is. It is a synthesis of dodecaphonic melismatic cartography, tuberculosis, endocardial osmosis, ad hoc verbatim, quid pro quo, articulatory aleatoric transference, measles, monomania, and ulcerative colitis. The ectoplasmic stimulation afforded by this exceedingly complex masterpiece is so sophisticated that it will likely cause seizures in all lesser species of plebian, proletarian pedestrians.
KhagarBalugrak 4 months ago
@KhagarBalugrak XD nice
MUYA123SLAYER 3 months ago
I just found out I'll be playing some Xenakis this year in my conservatoire's orchestra and I wonder how an oboe would fit in to all of this. :)
lennic95 4 months ago
@lennic95, an oboe would best fit into this piece by being inserted into a bonfire.
KhagarBalugrak 4 months ago 2
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lennic95 4 months ago
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lawleet1991 5 months ago
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zenmachinefilms 5 months ago
This isn't music to listen to so much as it is music to expand your consciousness and really test your intelligence and ability to concentrate and literally think about the composition as it goes along and piece together the frame of it in your mind.
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
@badazzpresidents23
Please... stop that. I know you like this a lot, and I'll admit it's good music, but seriously, nothing kills the credibility of artist and audience alike faster than describing a piece as music to pretend to be smart by.
ExcessiveSpareTime 5 months ago 2
@ExcessiveSpareTime What's your problem?
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
@badazzpresidents23
I'm sorry, but in my opinion, claiming one work inherently makes you smarter than anything else for listening to it just makes you sound like a poser. It reflects badly on everyone who has ever had anything to do with it by implying that it has no appeal beyond inflating the listener's ego.
Some of us just find it aesthetically pleasing and don't give a crap about how smart others think they are for sitting through it. That should be fine enough, shouldn't it?
ExcessiveSpareTime 5 months ago 3
@ExcessiveSpareTime You misunderstood what I said. I don't mean this one work alone, I mean 20th century modern/avant-garde classical music as a whole. It has a lot of appeal beyond inflating ego, but you seem more involved in attacking people that actually understanding where they are coming from, even if the words come out a little bit wrong. I find this music to be more intellectually stimulating than most other forms of music that I've listened to, what is wrong with saying that?
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
@badazzpresidents23, intellectually simulating and crackophenating metrolicular paralysis indeed.
KhagarBalugrak 4 months ago
@KhagarBalugrak Thank you
badazzpresidents23 4 months ago
@ExcessiveSpareTime I find this to be extremely pleasing in terms of sonic textures and of instrumental arrangements and placements of notes/noises, but if you look beyond all that and you don't like it for the listenability, you can still have appreciation for it and take interest in it at a compositional level.
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
Zappa said he would play stuff like Varese to be the ultimate test of somebody's intelligence.
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
For a second there, I seriously thought this was going to turn into the "THX" music we hear at the beginning of movies. XD
tfpp1 5 months ago 3
Can anyone explain the graph? Is it frequency vs time?
JimmyGr90 5 months ago
I studied music in college, and I actually hated music like this when I first heard it. To me, much 20th century classical music was little more than musical exercises resulting in noise.
But it also planted seeds in my brain, and as the years passed my knowledge expanded and my ear adapted. While I still don't care for much serial music, I'm very fond of dynamic contemporary classical compositions, such as this one. What was once noise to me, is now stimulating, fascinating, moving.
zenmachinefilms 6 months ago 40
@zenmachinefilms Some of the later avant-garde composers to me felt like hacks of people like Xenakis or Sessions or Varese or Schoenberg. But there were a lot of greats. Some are still alive, like Pauline Oliveros.
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
@zenmachinefilms The same with me, when I started to study music composition :)
Steksonn 2 months ago
@zenmachinefilms I am studying this right now and it sounds like noise to me haha :P
bumsex4me 2 months ago
@zenmachinefilms you have gotten older and dumber
dalecampbl9 1 week ago
@zenmachinefilms Same here
HipHopeJay6 2 days ago
Αυτο το κομμάτι ακούγαμε πισω στο 84 όταν με θέα το ηλιοβασίλεμα της υπέροχης σαντορίνης μας μαζι με την γυναίκα μου. Με το άκουσμα αυτού του τραγουδιού της ζήτησα να γίνει γυναίκα μου. Τώρα μετά απο 27 χρόνια και τρία παιδιά ακούμε αυτό το υπέροχο κομμάτι και νιώθουμε σαν να μην πέρασ εμια μέρα. Σε ευχαριστούμε γιάννη για την υπέροχη μουσική που μας πρόσφερεσ. Να είσαι καλά εκέι πάνω...
painkiller901901 6 months ago 20
@painkiller901901 Αυτό είναι δείγμα πραγματικής αγάπης. Το οτι σφραγίσατε τον γάμο σας υπο τους ήχους αυτής της ΦΡΙΧΤΗΣ μουσικής δείχνει πόσο δοσμένοι είσαστε. Με τον ίδιο τρόπο οι χριστιανοί σφραγίζανε την μαρτυρία τους στα βασανιστήρια.
Αυτό που δεν καταλαβαίνω όμως είναι το γιατί υποβάλλετε και τα παιδιά σας σε αυτό το μαρτύριο !?
5x5equals25 4 months ago
@5x5equals25 Εντάξει, μην τον αποπαίρνεις έτσι τον άνθρωπο... Θέμα γούστου είναι... ;)
2ndnickthegreek992 4 months ago
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@5x5equals25 Εντάξει, μην τον αποπαίρνεις έτσι τον άνθρωπο... Θέμα γούστου είναι... ;)
2ndnickthegreek992 4 months ago
I find this music very emotionally....weird thing.
bpetre2011 6 months ago
@mixtape24 Obviously. What I'm saying is that Xenakis based what he wrote off of equations. I'm not saying that a computer spat out that was there.
chicaassassin 6 months ago
Superb!
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szafraki 6 months ago
This type of music is what is called Absolute Determinism. It means that instead of the music being based off of emotions, it is based off of equations (used by computers) to generate randomness. The reason why it is so weird and kind of scary is because it is meant to be random in almost every aspect. Meter, pitch...etc.
chicaassassin 6 months ago
i love classical music but this is just shite
noradosmith 6 months ago
@noradosmith Well then you don't love classical music
Huddiethegreat 6 months ago 2
...it's better than an asthma attack...
Ocielocique 6 months ago
Let's see Skrillex remix this ^_^
MixMasterShyGuy 7 months ago
δάσκαλε
periklis000 7 months ago
This sounds like it could be the soundtrack to a movie like "Black Swan" or "There Will Be Blood."
sillstaw 7 months ago
well, this isn't music at all^^ it's another kind of audative arts that includes some aspects of harmony :)
but I have to say, I really don't enjoy those works, no beauty, no thrill, for me, they are nothing but boring. may some other people find fun and peace in this, may they be glad to have found someone like Xenakis. I just hope Xenakis doesn't overrate this work, even if there are people who love it, I really assume, this is not a genius' stroke.
IIIIIawesIIIII 7 months ago
This is so cool. I hear bits of serial Stravinsky in the middle section. Thanks for posting.
jsivanataru 7 months ago
I'll never try to convince anyone of the beauty and the force of this fondamental piece composed by Y.X. Sorry for those who can't appreciate it, maybe in a future life, I hope. Anyway, there are so many things to listen that everyone can find what he likes.
DE COLORIBUS NON DISPUTANDUM
NewGlobalDesorder 7 months ago
This outstanding musical piece is from a song Le Desorde Ces't moi by outstanding screamo band Orchid. Trust me, go check them out. They're awesome.
TheDepressed100 8 months ago
@TheDepressed100 Sadly, I was a fan of Orchid well before I was a fan of this piece (or even aware of its existence). Orchid is an amazing band--certainly one of the best punk artists ever--and that is an amazing song.
BunionMann 7 months ago
@BunionMann I agree! Orchid was WAY better than Asking Alexandria.
TheDepressed100 7 months ago
@TheDepressed100 Well yeah, that goes without saying. I never mentioned that band though; I was just putting them happily along side of greats like Fugazi, At the Drive-In and Minutemen.
BunionMann 7 months ago
@BunionMann I think i will like Fugazi and dislike Alesana. Alesana's lyrics are too empty and their vocals suck as they sing.
TheDepressed100 7 months ago
can somebody tell me how is name is pronounced?
ryan9312 8 months ago
@ryan9312 Meh - tah - stay - sis. Metastasis. :)
Ryanlauph 8 months ago
@Ryanlauph oh sorry i was actually talking about xenakis' first and last names my band
ryan9312 8 months ago
@ryan9312 Oh, sorry for the misinterpretation.
The composer is pronounced (I think): Ee - ah - nis / Seh - nah - kiss
Ryanlauph 8 months ago
@ryan9312 its Yanis Ksenakis, greek :)
ch1lly7 7 months ago
@ryan9312 ianis ksenakis, its a pretty common surname in greece, so i'd know. stressed on the two A's. i'anis ken'akis just like you see it
fuckslipknot21 7 months ago
@ryan9312 These are pronounced:
Yah - niss / Xeh - nah - kiss
and
Meh - tah - stah - sis
100%
panagogt 7 months ago
what is this thing
watchdog15 8 months ago
sweet. some one else before me was an architect-engineer and avant garde music composer.
vnprado 8 months ago
This is lovely, lovely and lovely.
orrissanen 8 months ago
I love the glissandi, but the middle piece is still difficult for me to understand...
mathildeww 8 months ago
I believe many people find it difficult to empathize with these musical ideas because of the acculturation of tonality. I think that we're still just too adjusted to the tonal hierarchies in traditional tonality.
Let us remember Stravinsky and the turbulence that ensued at the Rite of Spring premiere because of the harmonic and rhythmic dissonances that shocked the audience. Now, his ballet is easily heard as lush and vibrant in its colors by many...
FenAllo1 8 months ago
@FenAllo1 those riots were actually caused by the choreography, no one could hear the music. Stravinsky just wanted people to think it was because of his music so he could flaunt being misunderstood and use it to his advantage as an avant-garde composer. However, the riots at Shostakovich's 14th symphony, that was cause of the music. Also cause a critic had a stroke during the performance.
Hamiltonharty 1 month ago
This thing is freaking scary!
grThetrojan01gr 8 months ago
what is the formation? Strings, Percussion?
Dnomasorneiluj 8 months ago
@Dnomasorneiluj See it that way: in the beginning there was no percussion, yet you see a formation. So, what are you guessing?
emagdali 8 months ago
i find this quite enjoyable, and i can't figure out why
Theknuckler49 9 months ago
Metastasis is a scary thing: The growth of secondary malignant tumors away from the main tumor.
guildwarshobo 9 months ago 3
both of you shut the fuck up and stop trolling on youtube.
inthetearoom 9 months ago
nervios----relax----nervios-----severidad-----diferente---desorder....... me recuerda a los fondos musicales de una película de suspenso y terror.
22Valka 9 months ago
nervios----relax----nervios-----severidad-----diferente---desorder
22Valka 9 months ago
i tend to like stockhausen a bit more, but this is interesting...i'll come back and listen again at night when there are no distractions to get in the way of the music...
-keith
kbaronshaffer 9 months ago
What's the name of this type of music?
EddFilipe123 10 months ago
@EddFilipe123 stocastic music....it's a movemment against the serialism
elsantoenaccion 9 months ago
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jimmyliupiano 9 months ago
@EddFilipe123
It's spectralism, one of the many -isms of music in the 20th century
jimmyliupiano 9 months ago
@EddFilipe123 Spectral music
Nactra 9 months ago
@kaspinio and @electrickabuki
Why can't we all just get along?
The three of us appreciate the fact that this piece is magnificent. Nobody has done anybody else an injustice. And I personally don't think a specific group of people "killed" opera. I think that every generation brings innovation and rebellion from the ideal s of their parents...
But nobody is wrong!
xMissMelinax 10 months ago
A fine example of Applied Music Theory.
voxhunden 10 months ago
xenakis's definitive composition! a true atonal conservative!
Bagas 10 months ago
its such a mystery i wish i could fully understand it so i could appreciate it even more, i know the idea behind it but cant understand the reasons for everything being that way.
kaspinio 10 months ago
@kaspinio you don't have to understand everything to appreciate it, that kind of thinking kills art. There are myriad ways in which in can be appreciated.
electrickabuki 10 months ago
@electrickabuki learn to read something my friend before you comment on it. I said appreciatte it even more, I even called this piece of music mystery making clear that I dont understand it but I appreciatte it. Your criticize comment is such NOT makin anysense and the most funny part is that you believe you know something about art.
kaspinio 10 months ago
@kaspinio sorry you misunderstood, I meant that there are many ways to appreciate art and that an in depth knowledge of theory is not a prerequisite for doing so. As you decided to take a petulant tone in your reply, let me point out that when you attempt to barb a person's linguistic ability you should first make sure your own is impeccable, sadly yours is not, it is, for the most part garble.
Are you one of the nazi types who think art is a competition? People like you almost killed opera!
electrickabuki 10 months ago
@electrickabuki benighted, if u knew anything about art you would know that art is percieved different between people. You said my way of thinkin kills art, you ask if am I nazi..you have a nice vocabulary i give you that but no actual belief in your words thats why the meaning of your first sentense gets canceled by the second... I am not further gonna argue with someone like yourself in a video of Xenakis as i don't find it proper. good luck with your journey
kaspinio 10 months ago
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koopakidshyguy 11 months ago
ΞΕΝΑΚΗΣ = Θ Ε Ο Σ....! ! ! ΕΝΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΜΟΝΑΔΙΚΟΣ....
01Theja 11 months ago
Lost? O_o
airtonnativa 11 months ago
XENAKIS IS A SON OF APOLLO.Ο ΞΕΝΑΚΗΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ!....
NIKOSTRATOS1000 11 months ago
LSD!
tsaki2002 11 months ago
May everyone have an unspeakable Feb 4. Long remembrance of Xenakis.
NevinJarek 1 year ago
What do people find appealing about the avant garde sound? I'm not trying to bash it or anything; I just don't understand it, so I'm actually just asking an honest question.
CapnKeys 1 year ago
@CapnKeys
I just like it because it's not the same fucking three chords over and over again. It's different, which makes it interesting right off the bat. I wouldn't say I enjoy it like 'hey let's put some tunes on... yeah how about Xenakis!' To me, it's just more thought provoking than "regular" music is. That's just me though.
raleighwhisp 11 months ago 16
@raleighwhisp pretentious prick lolz
casperrrrr 7 months ago
@casperrrrr which part is pretentious? do you even know what that word means? Where is the OP pretending to be anything?
TallFastLoud 6 months ago
@CapnKeys
It's different. That's quite a vague explanation but, in my opinion, it fits.
elsewhereify 11 months ago
@CapnKeys Most people that enjoy it do not really think why they enjoy it. Though such music is usually but not necessarily appreciated by people with very trained ears.
LesbianStraightGay 11 months ago
@LesbianStraightGay most people like it because it's more like abstract soundscape than regular music. I doubt music skills have any influence on reception of this kind of music.
B1SCOOP 11 months ago
@B1SCOOP Of course, Justin Bieber fans will enjoy it! Seriously, it's a well composed piece of music. I can feel the relations between the instruments easily, it is by no means a soundscape. Though I assume that some people like because it's "interesting".
LesbianStraightGay 11 months ago
@LesbianStraightGay there is big difference between music taste and music talent. I consider myself that my music taste is slightly bigger than average but on the other hand I couldn't play any instrument or compose music.
You hear notes and instruments, I see images painted by sounds. Is anything wrong with that?
B1SCOOP 11 months ago
@CapnKeys It's not music in the sense of harmony and melody in the traditional sense you might think of it, though you could say that those are here, they just exist by different means. This music is more so a dance, a dance of noises and sonic textures, as opposed to the type of purity that makes people Chopin so well-known. If you were to watch modern dance music you might get what I mean.
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
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CapnKeys 1 year ago
i love this song.
TheFate23 1 year ago
Those of us with true intellect hate elitists and snobs!
SherwinGooch 1 year ago
@SherwinGooch
haha : )
e3axordos 1 year ago
@SherwinGooch Woa, ego paradox O.o
paravrais 11 months ago
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antonvonwebern 1 year ago
@psychopathtoine true, but let me tell you that when the other week i cut my left hand with the chain saw, i, personally, have had different and somewhat stronger feelings than those i am having now pushing these buttons and thinking the thoghts i am trying to communicate: do you recognize a difference, a significant difference?
around here there is no absolut (save for the vodka), everything is relative,
hence meaningful differences DO make a difference, i think (and feel).
thank you
preadort 1 year ago
@tonychang32000
you are right, we all have feelings all the time, even my dogs do, maybe even my computers do, even if i don't know or don't want to acknowledge this,
but one thing is to feel unconsciously the chair under your ass or to reason about a notes' sequence and another is to feel what you feel when you listen to Vivaldi or when you like somebody a lot.
what i mean is that this music is more intellectual than emotional, can you get along with this?
thank you
preadort 1 year ago
@S3bz3r0
maybe i would use 'thoughts' or 'ideas' or 'mind states' instead of 'feelings', but, like i said, it's a personal pov
thank you
@midinerd
level, yes, but pls be more specific: level of what?
level -> feeling?
thank you
preadort 1 year ago
a masterpiece of modern music
aeckon1 1 year ago
Interessantissimo! grazie :-)
eMyZeTa 1 year ago
Soit enfin les formalismes et écoutez votre âme.Grande.....
CHARISNTERTIMANIS 1 year ago
日本では演奏される機会が少ない、Meta-Stasisの楽曲全体の構造を示した図形楽譜ですが、各部分の特徴が分かりやすく示されています。ちなみに、フルスクリーン版へのURLはリンク切れになっています。
shm1968g 1 year ago
wonderful. thanx for the upload!
michaelpiano1 1 year ago
not bad
gpmusicarts 1 year ago
i am afraid x|
UrielWN 1 year ago
Xenakis rules!
uhj4 1 year ago
A fucking masterpiece!! I love how only some music can cause fear...
juan300590 1 year ago
This will make the shining more scary!
nelsyeung 1 year ago
THX
elasticbowman 1 year ago
I've heard parts of this all over the place, most notably from the tv show Lost - 2:24 and the game Bioshock - 2:50
humbug102tf 1 year ago
sorry, actually its intelligent, but its a crap song!!!
MrDERRISSONISRAEL 1 year ago
@MrDERRISSONISRAEL Why?
MrCoolManTim 1 year ago
@MrDERRISSONISRAEL why the fuck are you on this video? seriously
Say that kind of shit to your friends, don't insult someone's art randomly on a video made to be a tribute to him.
Xenakis is an incredible composer to me.
It's not a song made to be catchy, it's only made to express feelings, like a true artist should
S3bz3r0 1 year ago 2
@S3bz3r0
yes, Xenakis is on Ligeti's level, incredibly high, no wonder most people do not appreciate them, but...
"feelings" ? what feelings have to do with all this? not much IMO,
personally, i take it only as brain work, not feelings (as emotions i mean)
and in general do not think an artist should necessarily worry about feelings,
particularly, in this branch of music (Stockhausen, Maderna, Berio, Boulez, Kagel)
feelings are not part of the picture, i think.
ciao
preadort 1 year ago 2
@preadort Yeah, I meant something else, just forget the word feeling in the sentence and replace it by something :P.
S3bz3r0 1 year ago
@preadort Wrong. feeling -> level.
midinerd 1 year ago
@preadort I think there are ofcourse somewhat feelings, no offense, or how do you distinguish human brain and computers? I believe there are still feelings, maybe at thte time when they were making choise to use their elements/compose.
tonychang32000 1 year ago
@preadort i respectfully disagree.
It's not because most people can't feel emotions when listening to this branch of music that it's completely without emotion for everyone.
Music is something that everyone interprets in their own way.
For most people (that imo are indoctrinated by the media to define what music is good and what is bad) would say this music is scary.
And isn't fear an emotion? :)
psychopathtoine 1 year ago 21
Wow, that's a lot of pretentious concepts in one music piece. I sometimes can't help getting the feeling that contemporary classical music is not so much about the music anymore than about the amount of snobbish bullshit put into it. The music itself sounds nice at times but I can't give a rat's ass about the relativistic time signature blahblah.
vork666 8 months ago
@vork666 You are not without pretension.
sleepytimejesse 8 months ago
@vork666 Yeah he wrote it from the memory he had of the sounds of warfare, what a fucking snob!
Huddiethegreat 6 months ago
@psychopathtoine If you think you're some kind of a free spirit because of listening to this you are a poser.
MageAtYou 6 months ago
@MageAtYou I'm sure real rebels like Joe Strummer would back you up on that. All hail the king of cool, MageAtYou, for he smote the posers with his mighty sword of righteousness and internet fury
TallFastLoud 6 months ago
@psychopathtoine Couldn't have said it better myself. When a piece of music is not about love or lust, it hardly has any audience, similar to some of Rachmaninoff's or Bartok's pieces (different style though).
In my opinion, it is quite simple: music is harmony. Were there no harmony, one would hear only an indefinite spectrum of noises. If some of the YouTubers here can't understand or follow this piece's harmony, I believe it is their problem.
NPBaudelaire 5 months ago
@NPBaudelaire couldn't have said it any better!
Chatetris 5 months ago
its mathematic models its not usual clasic music,pure psychedelic
UrielWN 1 year ago
@MrDERRISSONISRAEL
May i ask what is your knowledge in music?
Actually even if you studied music it would still be the same.
You see, unfortunately, we people percept music in the way mtv wants us to percept it.
We think that every song must have a basic pattern intro-chorus-...-outro.
Try to see things differently.Try to experience things in a way you are not used to.
It's about breaking your limits and understanding that irregularity has more to give you than regularity.
Just be open minded.
NukeGenious 1 year ago 2