Nice, you made a statement and backed it up with evidence. Every single thing u said was backed up by evidence. Which would make your argument 100% valid.
Now if only the hoax believers would listen/read with an open mind. :/
nice vid btw.
and for whoever claims I have a closed mind, I used to be a hoax believer until a year or so ago (more or less)
Convincing the self-deluded minds against their deeply held beliefs is like stopping the tide with a stick. The poorly educated brain rejects logic or evidence that might lead it to the correct conclusion from the delusions it has taken on. The investment of ego and support from group-think forms a barrier to reason and guides the thinker down the path of irrationality. Reading this; the better brains are doubting themselves, the failing ones are looking for weakness and counter argument.
@beastshawnee No one's "dancing" on the wires. Debunked over and over and over again. Young--as well as his suit, helmet, and backpack--accelerate up and down smoothly, just as they would in 1/6th G. Whereas when Adam Savage tried it, his helmet, backpack, and suit hung off of him and moved just as they would in a 1-G environment.
@shanedk Hey Shill, I know your middle name. It's Debunked. Debunked. Michael Debunked Shill. Because that's what you saw to all the proof. Here's proof A-Z. Debunked Debunked. When really you haven't proven anything yourselves. Go cash your paycheck, shill. It will spend real well in hell.
@wardydave Well, you sure are going to an awful lot of trouble (and screwing with a whole lot of basic math) to try and support the people who say it didn't.
all hail 1plus8 for his observation that the clip in question was obviously sped up. of course if you speed up any clip WAY TOO fast it will look silly. but now you look silly shane.i have a 2:1 bsc physics but i bet your still going to tell me that i cant do basic maths and physics.
@wardydave Yes, I am, because if you really DO know physics you would know that 2.46 is the right ratio to speed up footage shot in 1/6th gravity to make it match Earth gravity (as I have demonstrated TWICE).
The ratio is 2.46, shouldn't that be 1.23? Or did you not mean 'ratio', because thats what you said. I'll just concede though beacuse otherwise you'll flame me night and day I guess. Congrats, you win.
@wardydave No, I mean the RATE. The playback rate. It's 2.46, the square root of 6.03, since that's the ratio of Earth's gravitational force to the moon's. NO WAY AROUND IT. Simple numbers.
I thought you meant something else, but you did say ratio, and the ratio 2 to 46 is the same as 1 to 23. ie when you said '2.46 is the right ratio to speed up footage shot in 1/6th gravity to make it match Earth gravity' you are saying that we should speed up the moon shot so it is 23 times faster lol
I know that you are obviously super smart but I wonder why u couldn't see that 1.23 is half of 2.46, and instead wondered where the FUCK i got it from lol
@wardydave You said it yourself: 1.23 is HALF of 2.46. How can something be HALF the rate AND STILL BE THE RATE???
Idiot.
And you're completely misapplying even basic ratios. Either you're a failure at fourth grade math or you're a complete liar. A rate of 2.46 IS NOT IN ANY WAY equivalent to a ratio of 2:46. That's just laughably ignorant.
just for some clarification, you can check this if you read my posts again, i said that a ratio of 1.23 is the same as a ratio of 2.46. which it is, no matter how many times you say it isn't.
ps when I say ratio, its not a codeword for rate lol
@wardydave Let's say you have a ratio of 16:3. Then you divide it by two. What's the result? What's half that ratio? 8:3! Is 8:3 the same ratio as 16:3? NO!!!
@wardydave 2.46 IS NOT A RATIO OF 2 TO 46!!!! 1.23 IS NOT A RATIO OF 2 TO 43!!!!
2.46 could be a ratio of 246:100, or 123:50; 1.23 could be a ratio of 123:100 or 246:200. Why do you think you just get to change the numerator without changing the denominator? EVERYONE who learns ratios knows you don't get to do that!!!
a rate, ie the rate at which an event occurs, is simply the amount of times the event occurs/the time taken - ratios and rates are two completely different thing in maths.
@wardydave No, IDIOT, a ratio IS A RATE. If you're accelerating at a RATE of 5 meters per second per second, then it's 5 meters per second FOR EVERY SECOND. It's a RATIO of meters per second to seconds.
And the speed itself, your RATE of travel, IS A RATIO. If you're going 20 meters per second, then the ratio is 20 METERS to every one SECOND of travel time.
@wardydave In this case, if you're dealing with video at 29.97fps, and you increase the RATE 2.46 times to match Earth gravity, then you speed up the video to 29.97*2.46fps, or 73.7262fps. The RATIO of 73.7262 to 29.97 is 2.46.
In the UK (england at least) we often refer to the ratio 2:1 as the ratio 2.1, meaning exactly the same thing, i think this is where we are misenturpriting each other. can we conclude this squabble in a respectful way pls :)
@wardydave Sorry, but you don't get to use that pathetic excuse, since I explained to you from the start that the 2.46 comes from it being the square root of 6.03. There is NO WAY that could be confused with 2:46. NO WAY.
"@wardydave Sorry, but you don't get to use that pathetic excuse, since I explained to you from the start that the 2.46 comes from it being the square root of 6.03. There is NO WAY that could be confused with 2:46. NO WAY"
but you said
"Yes, I am, because if you really DO know physics you would know that 2.46 is the right ratio to speed up footage shot in 1/6th gravity..."
i got it confused with how we write "the ratio 2.1" or the ratio "1.23"
ok people find yourself a biiiig telescope and loooook see tire tracks foot prints and a lot of very expensive junk now i wonder how the hell we are going to get "no "neutron fusion to work with you clowns
And how about the flag? There is no air on the moon, so how can it wave? Nobody can land on the moon. Then we don't have to speak about tempratures on the moon!
The flag didnt "wave," it moved. And I can think of several reasons in 8th grade science alone why a flimsy piece of cloth would move in a frictionless environment.
If you cant think of even ONE, then I guess you failed the 8th grade. ;)
Get it through your head that just because you think you are morally righteous in stating that we went to the moon, and you are perfectly right in finding real flaws in moon advocate examples - of which I was also critical, doesn't mean you have proven your point - yet. As a devil's advocate I don't think you actually have a really strong argument.
I think you scored good points on your other videos on bogosity and the lunar landing, but this one is not good. You're playing and acting on assumptions. Next time try to speed it up until it looks normal.
Well goody. My world isn't going to end regardless of whether or not they went to the moon or not. However, I did find it interesting that when moonhoax advocates sped up the footage of the moon rover the dirt and gravel looked like normal earth gravity. Your buddies didn't even touch that.
Shanedk, good job man. I know you'll never convince these idiots of anything, but you did a very professional job of blowing their shit out of the water. I loved how you interleaved his atrocious grammar and spelling into your vid to really emphasize the broad chasm that obviously exists between your brain and his. Thank you, sir.
Pause it at 0:25 you can see the astronaut is still in the air after the sand landed back down to the ground. Pure evidence he was held up by a wire that Millions of people say and know.
Idiot, THAT DOES NOT MATTER!!! What matters is that they fell the SAME distance in the SAME time period! I PROVED it, and it was VERIFIED by PROFESSIONAL PHYSICISTS.
The more you type, the more you show yourself to be a blithering nincompoop.
Who is Mr. Lunberg? Do your own research and stop asking me for Scientists Names and for News articles to prove it was a hoax. Prove to me it was Not. This is your job since you came out on You Tube as such a Ham about it.
Ok Mr. Scientist, You claim and said it is thermodynamically impossible to go from 250 degrees F to -250F. Scientists have discovered this is the temperature on the moon under the Sun and in the shade do to nonexistence of atmosphere and pure radiation from the Sun. The film you are watching in all of your videos would not exist if it were film from the Moon. Even if they did go to the Moon. There would not be videos or Photos of on the Moon. Mr. Lunberg had already concluded that.
You are in way over your head my son. You may continue with your nonsense on youtube for as long as you might wish but no matter what you say, Man NEVER WALKED ON THE MOON.
Tell you what, you keep the dorky webpage (made by a virgin in his parents basement) that spoonfed you your moronic opinion, and I'll keep the hundreds of engineers and scientists who actually like, you know, INVENT TECHNOLOGY. We'll then you explain to everyone how you got the better end of the deal. ;)
I cant wait to hear it Timmy, so dont keep me waiting. The opinion of a hoaxaholic retard is always good for a cheap laugh.
men never walked on the moon? riight, thanks, now we can all rest with knowledge of this monumental consiracy put to rest. thank you for easing our thoughts about it...
of course they did, they would have had to have half the world in on the hoax to fake it.
You're a physics professor so let's hear your analysis of the alleged anomalies in the Chinese space walk.
/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
"Proof China Faked Their Spacewalk"
At the 2 minute 6 second mark an alleged bubble slides along the astronat's visor and goes up. It looks totally consistent with the behavior of a bubble. Is it a bubble? If not, what is the force that makes it start moving?
Its official! Timmy's finally run out of dork talking points. He's done SO MANY cut and pastes that he's now plagiarizing even himself!
But Timmy, you were the last great hope! The superhero! You were going to save the world! How can you possibly do that if you're exposed as a scientific dufus each and every time you try a pathetic bluff?
I know you got your feelings hurt. It happens to all newbs.
Now Timmy, since you've dropped your incompetent attempts to argue on the other threads, I can only take it as your admission of guilt.
YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RADIATION, so you drop the thread before being embarrassed (too late, but when YOU work in a nuke plant please let me know)
YOU DONT KNOW ANY GEOLOGISTS OR SCIENTISTS, so you drop the thread before being a proven liar (too late again).
What the hell are we SUPPOSED TO THINK?
If you'd stop the bluffs, you'd stop looking dumb.
Dude your feeble attempt to win the argument against any of of mine have failed each time. This video clearly shows that the sand falls faster than the astronaut which is proof that the astronaut was held up by a wire. This is a known fact. What part of this dont you understand?
"This is a known fact." Ten out of ten moon nerds AGREE! ;) Timmy, I can, and do, talk with physicists and engineers on a daily basis. That you are desperate enough to even PRETEND to know anything is bad enough, but running like a little girl from every argument is just retarded. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. You bombed the radiation question Bombed the barimeter question Bombed the geologist question. You lose. When, exactly, was I supposed to be scared? ;)
Timmy, my dear little boy, you only get to bluff ONCE before being exposed the retard. Since you've abandoned the radiation thread, you've admitted your own ignorance.
Therefore the argument is over, and I win. ;)
As long as you remain, and continue embarrassing yourself with retread cliches, Ill be happy to point them out. Meanwhile, you've already lost.
(Still waiting for you to show that stupendous geologist you pretended to know, I bet he's even over 14).
"This video clearly shows that this was NOT on the Moon. "
Just ask any hoax retard! ;)
Timmy, we've got physicists and engineers to talk to. When or if we EVER need the ignorant opinion of an attention begging scientific illiterate with an 8th grade education, dont worry, you'll be the first one we call. ;)
Until then, stay with the newbs where you belong. The ADULTS are talking and dont want to be disturbed.
You have simply failed on everything presented to you on supporting the faked moon landings yet claim to dominate.Ironic indeed. We can clearly see you are not the sharpest tool in the shed and certinly not a spokesman for NASA or whatever they have, on behalf of thier defense in the exposure of the Lunar Landing Hoax.
Sorry Timmy, since I just answered your illiterate question, does this mean you'll finally answer one of mine? ;)
You know, with answers other than "you..you...you..STUPID MAN!"
Since I answered yours, I am obviously superior, as you continue to run like a little girl every time I called your moronic bluffs elsewhere.
If you cant answer my radiation questions, the ADULT thing to do would be to admit it. I'm not dropping it until you admit you were faking. Its embarrassingly obvious.
We can only wait and laugh ;) Timmy didnt know that he's arguing with someone who ACTUALLY HAS a Certificate of Radiation Safety. I know he's usually impressed with any 14 year-old quack he cut and pasted online, but I am going to continue to call every ignoramus retarded bluff he makes.
Timmy, I know amongst your virgin dork crowd, saying "but I cut and pasted it!" counts as evidence, but adult men have higher standards.
As much fun as you have bluffing about facts and scientists, when I ask you for specifics, and you bellyflop, I can ask for no better proof of your incompetence. ;)
You HAVENT named any scientists.
You HAVENT given any facts.
I'm hoping you'll make an idiot out of yourself with the radiation claim. Dont let me down. ;)
You and your claim as people bluffing all the time about how it was Faked is getting tired. We know it was Faked. It has been proven over an over again it was Faked and you like to ignore the fact that I proved you wrong on every point you have tried to make. None of you dreams of NSASs hoax is real. Get over it kid.
Instead of insulting most peoples intelligence by answering your simple yet stupid questions, I will ask you again questions you have been asked and can never seem to find an answer to.
1) What is the vacuum resistance on the moon .
2)How was that measured?
3)If measured correctly, how do we know it was the same degree of vacuum in the chamber on your stupid TV show?(mythblusters)
You say the Vacuum on the Moon is the ABSENCE of everything then you are admitting the ABSENCE of the Astronauts. This is clear! You are caught in something you do not understand. This is your problem..
Not only did I answer your idiotic questions, but I did it with absolutely zero hesitation. Quite a change from your stalling, backpedaling, and frantic desperation to change the subject.
Why exactly DO YOU bring up topics you're ignorant in? Why were you dumb enough to think you'd never be asked?
I'll say it again. Go watch my physics vids. You'll LEARN something.
In the very least, why you shouldnt argue with a professional. ;)
"Only knuklehead HS teachers are fooled and as a result they teach our kids that this hoax was real. "
For some reason, they feel accomplished PHds hold more credibility than Mcdork internet trolls with delusions of saving the world.
Tell you what, you keep the hoaxaholic wannabe Mcnugget makers, and we'll keep the professional engineers. We'll then let you tell everyone EXACTLY how you got the better end of the deal. ;)
They where pulled up by wire to simulate less gravity. You can play the tape at any speed you want. It won't matter. You can clearly see it was faked/a hoax.
Well then he must be brain dead. Chris Angel does it all the time. All wires are there but you can't see them. Chris Angel does a better job at hiding wire.
This video is clear evidence that it was a hoax.look at 3:10 how the guy on the right is supposed to be on the moon. The dirt kicked up drops long before he does. If you took a course in physics you would know it would drop at the same time. It doesnt matter the speed of the video.
Well you are blind then. It clearly goes as high if not higher and lands far sooner than the guy in the space suit. If you took a course in phyisics you would know and see how obvious it is that they were being pulled up by wires. The wires can even be seen in some of the videos. You make a very weak argument.
Are you even looking at the video you posted? Look at 0:23 It clearly shows how the surface dust falls from the same height and lands well before the astronaut does. Speeding up the tape like you did or slowing it down doesn't matter. They were being pulled up by wires.
Idiot, I examined it FRAME BY FRAME. I MEASURED the EXACT number of frames it took to fall and the EXACT number of pixels it fell. I did the same for the astronaut over the same number of frames.
THE DUST DOES NOT GO AS HIGH, AND IT FALLS AT THE SAME RATE. You are DELUSIONAL. You need HELP!
Boy you have allot to learn. You Moon fools are so desperate and in denial and cant handle the fact that you were fooled. And will say anything even though the true facts are right in front of you. It is very sad how much it hurts you people deep down inside.
"You Moon fools are so desperate and in denial and cant handle the fact that you were fooled."
Ten out of ten dorks agree!
So let me get this straight: we got scientific illiterate mcdorks pushing easily refutable "facts" (which are AT LEAST ten years above their education level), which they cut and pasted from DVD hucksters who PRETEND to be physicists but arent?
I'm sorry, but I missed the part where we were supposed to be scared.
I am stating my Opinions on the topic by Facts, knowledge and Intelligence but you are just a very angry, antagonistic, insulting person. I do not believe they went to the Moon. There are too many factors and so much evidence that it was a hoax that You probably have not even come across yet. You have also failed to be nonbelligerent in your comments.
You can even see in this video. The guy jumps up, the dirt falls to the ground and then the wire lets the astronaut down. You telling me I am delusional is the weakest argument I have found yet. As an analogy: I say I see green and you say no its purple you are delusional'.
ALL of which has been ridiculed to within an inch of its life.
You're in some wannabe fairytale where you think all it takes is 5 virgins in their basement to say "FAKE" and therefore THAT PROVES IT! NEVERMIND they have 8th grade education! NEVERMIND they never have ANY professional to agree. Its always just mcjobs who you're too dumb to question.
Everything as been presented to experts and NASA spokesman but never fully answered. Only knuklehead HS teachers are fooled and as a result they teach our kids that this hoax was real.
"Everything as been presented to experts and NASA spokesman but never fully answered."
Says who? A smelly room of hoax panderers? Who'd believe bigfoot shot JFK if a webpage told them?
Unfortunately, any review at all of the typical hoax dork reveals an under-educated, under-employed wannabe, begging for attention in matters ten years above his experience level. I've been waiting for YEARS for the hoaxtards to present an actual physicist to agree with them.
You two guys/ (you tube accounts) should do more research to learn more about this topic. One example that you clearly do not know is the fact that many of the Conspiracy Theorists are Doctors, Professors, Scientists, Physicists and Astrophysicists etc. Most are not but have intelligent theories based on gathered facts. They are not 8th grade children.
"is the fact that many of the Conspiracy Theorists are Doctors, Professors, Scientists, Physicists and Astrophysicists"
Horseshit.
Sorry charlie, but you've been taken for a ride. The ole "but my 2nd cousins former roommate knew man who thought he met.." blah blah is tried here ALL the time. But EVERY SINGLE TIME we ask for names...
...you disappear. You stall, you backpedal, you bluff.
Why is that? Why is it that when we ASK for these stupendous men, we never get them?
"If I want to I could bury you in Factual Evidence"
Oh No! Another flimsy bluff from a conspiraholic illiterate! ;)
What if I file this bluff right next to your claim of knowing "scientists and astophysicists" who supported the hoax? Since you bellyflopped that one, I'm still waiting to be impressed. ;)
As schooled as you are in these flimsy bluffs, I doubt you've done even rudimentary research to see how they've been ridiculed long before you ever sailed in here as the wannabe.
You obviously havent been paying attention. Pretending and bluffing about "I KNOW SOMEBODY" is standard cliche' stalling for hoax nerds who run out of talking points before they run out of mouth.
And guess what, you sound just like them. ;)
"I cant tell you! cuase...cause...cuase...THEY'RE SECRET!"
They're also transparent lies and you know it. Spare us the nerdiness please.
"should do more research to learn more about this topic"
No offense, but you're no rocket scientist. ;)
I've been arguing the "hoax" for years, even made my own movies pointing out the more stupid aspects of it (under another name here, if you're curious).
You're fairly typical and predictable as far as the panderers go: running out of talking points in one round, being reduced to the indignity of "you...you...you STUPID MAN!" after the slightest disagreement. We've heard it all before.
You still completely fail to convince anyone anywhere in the world that such a claim as Man Walking on the Moon was Real while they know it was Faked with reason.
It is a fact that many of the Conspiracy Theorists are Doctors, Professors, Scientists, Physicists and Astrophysicists. And you ask me for names? I know a few personally. Why should I give you their names? Like I said do some more research and learn some more about this topic before you consider yourself an expert.
"You still completely fail to convince anyone anywhere in the world that such a claim as Man Walking on the Moon was Real"
Why? Because 8 virgin nerds in a dank basement say so? OH NO! ;)
You keep the hoaxaholic dorks who'd believe bigfoot shot JFK if a webpage told them, and we'll keep the engineers who actually work in the field-and laugh at people like you. You can then explain why you got the better end of the deal. ;)
Lets just face the Facts here instead. There is No concrete evidence that you went to the Moon.. But yet TONS of evidence that you did not go to the Moon. HMM go ahead and wonder why that is...
"here is No concrete evidence that you went to the Moon"
You are honestly retarded.
MOONROCKS?????? Moonrocks on display in 12 INTERNATIONAL museums? Given away to 150 countries?
We have INTERNATIONAL scientists to say we went. Not only do you not have international scientists, you dont have ANY AT ALL.
I know you dont like being caught bluffing. Instead of practicing willful ignorance of the last 40 years, you should ask yourself why you came here so entirely unprepared.
Scientists all over the world conclude it was Fake. You have absolutely No scientist in the world that agree with you. You have Nothing but videos that clearly show it was recorded on Earth and videos of them in Orbit about 400 miles above the earth and clearly lie by saying it was 120,000 miles away. Get real. You do agree about the Van Allen Radiation Belts that begin 500 miles above the Earth. The Moon is the most potent form of that radiation. You have No Idea what you are talking about.
None of this is even slight proof. Moon rocks? Funny how that was made out of the same material that they use on professional RC off road racetracks. Its NOT from the Moon. Its rare Clay.
Racetrack asphalt has an absence of water-formed minerals and alterations? Racetrack asphalt is abundant in rare-Earth elements and displays evidence of meteor impacts? Racetrack asphalt has EXACTLY the right isotopes to be 4 billion years old?
"Funny how that was made out of the same material that they use on professional RC off road racetracks."
GREAT! Then find a single geologist to say so!
Or let me guess, you dont have a geologist? You have 4 virgins in a dank basement pretending to use big words? And you were dumb enough to believe them? ;)
Timmy, I know you're embarrassed about being caught bluffing over and over, but stop wasting our time with newbie retardedness.
jewsplottokill2012 has been blocked from this channel for making multiple racist and bigoted comments, which have been removed (yes, they were WORSE than what remains).
"This video clearly shows evidence that it never happend"
I wish this "evidence" would be presented by anyone qualified, rather than scientifically illiterate paranoids out to expose "hoaxes" to make themselves feel important.
As long as the "hoax" has ONLY mcnugget making dorks as its primary supporter, any claim of "proof" is ridiculous.
i dunno where you pull your crappy storytelling from, but since you have not posted links, evidence, and facts online, and you just keep flloding one thread to the other betrays your lies. your better off as a sci fi wrtier.
and how does teh CIA kow so much about the dead bin ladin but cant seem to find him?? why dont they get the news reporter who found him the first time and got an interview with him to go find him again?? you poor folks
I love how you added (sic) into his reply on this video. Not that 1plus8 would actually know what that means or anything....
GuitarMannnnnn 2 weeks ago
I am sure that the jumps were filmed in real time.
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
My analysis of the faked John Young jump will be up this week, Shane Killion. Be sure to check it out... I'll tell you when it's uploaded.
yesiamawizardjonny 8 months ago
Nice, you made a statement and backed it up with evidence. Every single thing u said was backed up by evidence. Which would make your argument 100% valid.
Now if only the hoax believers would listen/read with an open mind. :/
nice vid btw.
and for whoever claims I have a closed mind, I used to be a hoax believer until a year or so ago (more or less)
triykyi 9 months ago
Convincing the self-deluded minds against their deeply held beliefs is like stopping the tide with a stick. The poorly educated brain rejects logic or evidence that might lead it to the correct conclusion from the delusions it has taken on. The investment of ego and support from group-think forms a barrier to reason and guides the thinker down the path of irrationality. Reading this; the better brains are doubting themselves, the failing ones are looking for weakness and counter argument.
neoporcupine 1 year ago
ratio schmatio, look at the puppets dance on the wires. They are suspended. I've seen the rigging for peter pan flying too. Same thing.
beastshawnee 1 year ago
@beastshawnee No one's "dancing" on the wires. Debunked over and over and over again. Young--as well as his suit, helmet, and backpack--accelerate up and down smoothly, just as they would in 1/6th G. Whereas when Adam Savage tried it, his helmet, backpack, and suit hung off of him and moved just as they would in a 1-G environment.
All hoaxtards have is delusion.
shanedk 1 year ago 5
@shanedk Hey Shill, I know your middle name. It's Debunked. Debunked. Michael Debunked Shill. Because that's what you saw to all the proof. Here's proof A-Z. Debunked Debunked. When really you haven't proven anything yourselves. Go cash your paycheck, shill. It will spend real well in hell.
beastshawnee 1 year ago
@shanedk Oh shill, you got me. That's proof.
beastshawnee 1 year ago
@shanedk Scum.
beastshawnee 1 year ago
@Surhotchaperchlorome
I agree it definately was, if it did happen, (im not saying it did/did not before shane flames me too much more) :D
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave Well, you sure are going to an awful lot of trouble (and screwing with a whole lot of basic math) to try and support the people who say it didn't.
shanedk 1 year ago
all hail 1plus8 for his observation that the clip in question was obviously sped up. of course if you speed up any clip WAY TOO fast it will look silly. but now you look silly shane.i have a 2:1 bsc physics but i bet your still going to tell me that i cant do basic maths and physics.
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave Yes, I am, because if you really DO know physics you would know that 2.46 is the right ratio to speed up footage shot in 1/6th gravity to make it match Earth gravity (as I have demonstrated TWICE).
Idiot.
shanedk 1 year ago
The ratio is 2.46, shouldn't that be 1.23? Or did you not mean 'ratio', because thats what you said. I'll just concede though beacuse otherwise you'll flame me night and day I guess. Congrats, you win.
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave No, I mean the RATE. The playback rate. It's 2.46, the square root of 6.03, since that's the ratio of Earth's gravitational force to the moon's. NO WAY AROUND IT. Simple numbers.
Where the FUCK did you get 1.23 from?
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
I thought you meant something else, but you did say ratio, and the ratio 2 to 46 is the same as 1 to 23. ie when you said '2.46 is the right ratio to speed up footage shot in 1/6th gravity to make it match Earth gravity' you are saying that we should speed up the moon shot so it is 23 times faster lol
I know that you are obviously super smart but I wonder why u couldn't see that 1.23 is half of 2.46, and instead wondered where the FUCK i got it from lol
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave The rate IS A RATIO. A ratio IS A RATE. Not all ratios are rates, but ALL RATES ARE RATIOS. Got it?
And 2.46 DOES NOT EVER IN ANY WAY equal 1.23, not when you're talking about rates, ratios, or ANYTHING. EVER.
Go back to fourth-grade math.
shanedk 1 year ago
oh dear, your actually teling me that a ratio of 2 to 4 is not the same as a ratio of 1 to 2?
lets go back to fourth-grade together......
shanedk has a pie, he cuts it into 3 pieces, has two himself (fat cunt) and gives one to wardy. a ration of 2:1
shane also has a pizza, he cuts it into 6 pieces, he has four himself (fat cunt) and gives two to wardy (how generous) a ratio of 2:4.
are these ratios the same?....
shanedk says no (wrong answer)
(also 2:46 is the same ratio as 1:23)
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave
ratio, not ration lol
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave You said it yourself: 1.23 is HALF of 2.46. How can something be HALF the rate AND STILL BE THE RATE???
Idiot.
And you're completely misapplying even basic ratios. Either you're a failure at fourth grade math or you're a complete liar. A rate of 2.46 IS NOT IN ANY WAY equivalent to a ratio of 2:46. That's just laughably ignorant.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
just for some clarification, you can check this if you read my posts again, i said that a ratio of 1.23 is the same as a ratio of 2.46. which it is, no matter how many times you say it isn't.
ps when I say ratio, its not a codeword for rate lol
wardydave 1 year ago
@shanedk "You said it yourself: 1.23 is HALF of 2.46. How can something be HALF the rate AND STILL BE THE RATE???"
you keep using the word rate where I have used the word ratio
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave Let's say you have a ratio of 16:3. Then you divide it by two. What's the result? What's half that ratio? 8:3! Is 8:3 the same ratio as 16:3? NO!!!
Geez...
shanedk 1 year ago
@wardydave Answer me this, idiot: 2.46 is the same as 246%. 1.23 is the same as 123%. DOES 246% EQUAL 123%??? HUH???
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
no 246% does not equal 123% but a ratio of 1 to 23 is equal to a ratio of 2 to 46, again, heres you saying the opposite.....
"2.46 DOES NOT EVER IN ANY WAY equal 1.23, not when you're talking about rates, ratios, or ANYTHING. EVER."
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave 2.46 IS NOT A RATIO OF 2 TO 46!!!! 1.23 IS NOT A RATIO OF 2 TO 43!!!!
2.46 could be a ratio of 246:100, or 123:50; 1.23 could be a ratio of 123:100 or 246:200. Why do you think you just get to change the numerator without changing the denominator? EVERYONE who learns ratios knows you don't get to do that!!!
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
a rate, ie the rate at which an event occurs, is simply the amount of times the event occurs/the time taken - ratios and rates are two completely different thing in maths.
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave No, IDIOT, a ratio IS A RATE. If you're accelerating at a RATE of 5 meters per second per second, then it's 5 meters per second FOR EVERY SECOND. It's a RATIO of meters per second to seconds.
And the speed itself, your RATE of travel, IS A RATIO. If you're going 20 meters per second, then the ratio is 20 METERS to every one SECOND of travel time.
shanedk 1 year ago
@wardydave In this case, if you're dealing with video at 29.97fps, and you increase the RATE 2.46 times to match Earth gravity, then you speed up the video to 29.97*2.46fps, or 73.7262fps. The RATIO of 73.7262 to 29.97 is 2.46.
GO BACK TO GRADE SCHOOL.
(Man, I SWEAR, moon hoaxers are the STUPIDEST...)
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
But you were NEVER taught--because it's NOT TRUE--that 2.46 = 2:46 or 1.23 = 1:23.
Correct...
only thing is, I never said that a ratio of 2:46 =2.46 did I? lol
you can however write the ratio 1:2 as '1 to 2' and '1.2' as long as you refer to it as a ratio.
as to your frequent claims that ratios are rates, and that acceleration is a ratio (lmao btw).
a ratio is the relative magnitudes of two quantities
a rate is a magnitude or frequency relative to a time unit
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave "you can however write the ratio 1:2 as '1 to 2' and '1.2' as long as you refer to it as a ratio."
And you can also write it as 0.5. That DOESN'T mean it's equal to a 0:5 ratio!
I ALWAYS wrote it as 2.46, NEVER as 2:46. YOU did that.
And since when is a time unit NOT a quantitative measurement?
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
ITS NOT HALF THE RATE ITS HALF THE RATIO!!! JEES
its like you skim for keywords through my post lol.
you said "2.46 DOES NOT EVER IN ANY WAY equal 1.23, not when you're talking about rates, ratios, or ANYTHING. EVER."
but when we went back to 4th grade we found out that a ratio of 1:23 is the same as 2:46
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave But you were NEVER taught--because it's NOT TRUE--that 2.46 = 2:46 or 1.23 = 1:23.
If 2.46 = 2:46, then 2.46 = 2 / 46 = 0.043478. IT DOESN'T.
So, to be a hoaxtard, you have to believe that 2.46 = 0.043478. THAT'S how stupid you morons are!
(Man, and I thought it was bad when Jarrah said that 150% was double...)
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
2.46 IS NOT A RATIO OF 2 TO 46!!!! 1.23 IS NOT A RATIO OF 2 TO 43!!!!
correct again, but i still never said that lol
a RATIO of 2.46 IS A RATIO OF 2 to 46!!!! a RATIO OF 1.23 IS A RATIO OF 1 to 23!!!!
wardydave 1 year ago
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@wardydave "a RATIO of 2.46 IS A RATIO OF 2 to 46!!!! a RATIO OF 1.23 IS A RATIO OF 1 to 23!!!!"
NO IT IS NOT!!! It NEVER HAS BEEN and NEVER WILL BE!!!
2.46 is 2.46:1 and 246:100 and 123:50 AND NEVER 2:46.
2:46 is 0.043 AND NEVER 2.46.
1.23 is 1.23:1 and 123:100 and 246:200 AND NEVER 1:23.
1:23 is 0.043 AND NEVER 1.23 AND NEVER 2.46.
Idiot.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
In the UK (england at least) we often refer to the ratio 2:1 as the ratio 2.1, meaning exactly the same thing, i think this is where we are misenturpriting each other. can we conclude this squabble in a respectful way pls :)
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave Sorry, but you don't get to use that pathetic excuse, since I explained to you from the start that the 2.46 comes from it being the square root of 6.03. There is NO WAY that could be confused with 2:46. NO WAY.
shanedk 1 year ago 4
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@shanedk
"@wardydave Sorry, but you don't get to use that pathetic excuse, since I explained to you from the start that the 2.46 comes from it being the square root of 6.03. There is NO WAY that could be confused with 2:46. NO WAY"
but you said
"Yes, I am, because if you really DO know physics you would know that 2.46 is the right ratio to speed up footage shot in 1/6th gravity..."
i got it confused with how we write "the ratio 2.1" or the ratio "1.23"
wardydave 1 year ago
@wardydave Is the ratio 1.23, or even the ratio 1:23, the square root of 6.03? No, it is not. Case closed.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
your right. are you trying to say that i said the ratio1.23 square root of 6.03? because i didn't.
this is going nowhereso this will likely be my last comment so....
i enjoyed some of your creationist pwnage, good job.
wardy
wardydave 1 year ago
ok people find yourself a biiiig telescope and loooook see tire tracks foot prints and a lot of very expensive junk now i wonder how the hell we are going to get "no "neutron fusion to work with you clowns
thermoreservoir 1 year ago
And how about the flag? There is no air on the moon, so how can it wave? Nobody can land on the moon. Then we don't have to speak about tempratures on the moon!
breakers 2 years ago
Every single point, discussed to death in every single video. Typical hoaxtard.
shanedk 2 years ago
@breakers
The flag didnt "wave," it moved. And I can think of several reasons in 8th grade science alone why a flimsy piece of cloth would move in a frictionless environment.
If you cant think of even ONE, then I guess you failed the 8th grade. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 2 years ago
Get it through your head that just because you think you are morally righteous in stating that we went to the moon, and you are perfectly right in finding real flaws in moon advocate examples - of which I was also critical, doesn't mean you have proven your point - yet. As a devil's advocate I don't think you actually have a really strong argument.
VortexDelta 2 years ago
The burden of proof is on THEM. And they HAVEN'T met it.
shanedk 2 years ago
Well if 1plus8 is so smart, why doesn't he speed up that video by what he thinks is the correct amount, and show the result?
Mithcoriel 2 years ago
@ 1:42
that guy knows basic logic? could have fooled me.
Albukhshi 2 years ago
It is not slowed down, they are just lifted by wires to simule moon gravity.
Just hypothesis, I prepare myself to be insulted.
Have a good day, folks!
tomtom4180 2 years ago
Not even Douglas Trumbull could hide wires on film in the 1960s. See Episode 9 of Bogosity.
shanedk 2 years ago
Okok, thanx for your calm answer. ;)
Cheers
tomtom4180 2 years ago
I think you scored good points on your other videos on bogosity and the lunar landing, but this one is not good. You're playing and acting on assumptions. Next time try to speed it up until it looks normal.
VortexDelta 2 years ago
You DON'T have to speed it up to make it look normal! It looks PERFECT as it is--at 1/6th G free fall.
Why? Because THEY WERE ON THE MOON!!!
shanedk 2 years ago
Well goody. My world isn't going to end regardless of whether or not they went to the moon or not. However, I did find it interesting that when moonhoax advocates sped up the footage of the moon rover the dirt and gravel looked like normal earth gravity. Your buddies didn't even touch that.
VortexDelta 2 years ago
As shane mentions hiding wires on film in the 60s was not really possible.
Another problem is that they are not a very good simulation of lunar gravity.
The upwards force exerted by the wires makes for an odd centre of gravity which makes running very unnatural.
ytmoog 2 years ago
jaktigmidblinx has been blocked for bigotry.
shanedk 2 years ago
how did you make that drop so slow, are you on the moon?
longfootbuddy 2 years ago
LIAR
moonhoax2k91 2 years ago
Nice video I liked the end XD!
klebehss 2 years ago
wires?
Hoolaygon 2 years ago
Shanedk, good job man. I know you'll never convince these idiots of anything, but you did a very professional job of blowing their shit out of the water. I loved how you interleaved his atrocious grammar and spelling into your vid to really emphasize the broad chasm that obviously exists between your brain and his. Thank you, sir.
floydfreak63 2 years ago
Next they're gonna say "But the astronaut is heavier than your objecft!"
;P
AirbornePig 2 years ago
What do they have to gain by pretending we didn't go to the moon?
Why are there conspiracy theorists?
An instant, ready made sense of identity, purpose, and worth.
That is the root of this, and every other conspiracy theorist; the basic human need to belong.
brengun42 3 years ago
The solution to the "Arms Movement Problem" is an easy one...lots and lots of caffeine! Wind em up and turn 'em loose ;P
aklyon 3 years ago
Well done.
I will say one thing. As hard as it should be to believe that we went to the moon. Its even harder to believe that we did not at this point.
rustyrayz 3 years ago
the astro-nots spacesuit don't look like ed whites space suit did when he did his eva.
animefan2k9 3 years ago
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timrocket2008 3 years ago
pause it at 0:24
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Pause it at 0:25 you can see the astronaut is still in the air after the sand landed back down to the ground. Pure evidence he was held up by a wire that Millions of people say and know.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Idiot, THAT DOES NOT MATTER!!! What matters is that they fell the SAME distance in the SAME time period! I PROVED it, and it was VERIFIED by PROFESSIONAL PHYSICISTS.
The more you type, the more you show yourself to be a blithering nincompoop.
shanedk 3 years ago
Who is Mr. Lunberg? Do your own research and stop asking me for Scientists Names and for News articles to prove it was a hoax. Prove to me it was Not. This is your job since you came out on You Tube as such a Ham about it.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Ok Mr. Scientist, You claim and said it is thermodynamically impossible to go from 250 degrees F to -250F. Scientists have discovered this is the temperature on the moon under the Sun and in the shade do to nonexistence of atmosphere and pure radiation from the Sun. The film you are watching in all of your videos would not exist if it were film from the Moon. Even if they did go to the Moon. There would not be videos or Photos of on the Moon. Mr. Lunberg had already concluded that.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
You are in way over your head my son. You may continue with your nonsense on youtube for as long as you might wish but no matter what you say, Man NEVER WALKED ON THE MOON.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"You are in way over your head my son"
Because the illiterate moon dorks are COMING TO GET ME!
Wake me up when I'm supposed to be scared Timmy.
By making an idiot out of yourself with faked facts on Radiation, Geology, and god knows what else, you've got nothing left to do but be laughed at.
So allow me to begin. *snicker*
I'll say it again, stop pretending and you'll stop getting laughed at. Leave science to the scientists, not internet dorks like you.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
"Man NEVER WALKED ON THE MOON."
Tell you what, you keep the dorky webpage (made by a virgin in his parents basement) that spoonfed you your moronic opinion, and I'll keep the hundreds of engineers and scientists who actually like, you know, INVENT TECHNOLOGY. We'll then you explain to everyone how you got the better end of the deal. ;)
I cant wait to hear it Timmy, so dont keep me waiting. The opinion of a hoaxaholic retard is always good for a cheap laugh.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
men never walked on the moon? riight, thanks, now we can all rest with knowledge of this monumental consiracy put to rest. thank you for easing our thoughts about it...
of course they did, they would have had to have half the world in on the hoax to fake it.
aJDfMDl 3 years ago
And BTW:
(Still waiting for you to show that stupendous geologist you pretended to know, I bet he's even over 14).
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
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Hey SpreadingtheMuse
strahd27sucks (dot) blogspot (dot) com/
You're a physics professor so let's hear your analysis of the alleged anomalies in the Chinese space walk.
/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
"Proof China Faked Their Spacewalk"
At the 2 minute 6 second mark an alleged bubble slides along the astronat's visor and goes up. It looks totally consistent with the behavior of a bubble. Is it a bubble? If not, what is the force that makes it start moving?
Cosmored 3 years ago
They defiantly didn't land on the moon and you would have to be an asshole to support such a claim.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"you would have to be an asshole to support such a claim. "
On the contrary, you might be a professional engineer with 20 years experience and 5 page resume in physics and astronomy.
To DENY it however, being an illiterate attention beggar with delusions of saving the world definitely helps.
Complete incompetence in any science above the 8th grade, forcing you into pathetic bluffs at every challenge, is certainly a big plus. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago 2
There is No proof that they landed on the Moon only proof that they did not land on the Moon.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"There is No proof that they landed on the Moon"
Its official! Timmy's finally run out of dork talking points. He's done SO MANY cut and pastes that he's now plagiarizing even himself!
But Timmy, you were the last great hope! The superhero! You were going to save the world! How can you possibly do that if you're exposed as a scientific dufus each and every time you try a pathetic bluff?
I know you got your feelings hurt. It happens to all newbs.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
"There is No proof that they landed on the Moon"
Only the moonrocks- which you cant refute
and the witnesses- which you cant refute
and the engineers- which you cant refute
Contrasted with the witnesses you DONT HAVE and the documents you CANT FIND and the scientists you INVENT.
Sorry Timmy, I missed the part where I was supposed to be scared.
For the last fucking time, go the hell away until you grow up ten years.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
Now Timmy, since you've dropped your incompetent attempts to argue on the other threads, I can only take it as your admission of guilt.
YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RADIATION, so you drop the thread before being embarrassed (too late, but when YOU work in a nuke plant please let me know)
YOU DONT KNOW ANY GEOLOGISTS OR SCIENTISTS, so you drop the thread before being a proven liar (too late again).
What the hell are we SUPPOSED TO THINK?
If you'd stop the bluffs, you'd stop looking dumb.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
Dude your feeble attempt to win the argument against any of of mine have failed each time. This video clearly shows that the sand falls faster than the astronaut which is proof that the astronaut was held up by a wire. This is a known fact. What part of this dont you understand?
timrocket2008 3 years ago
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago 2
Timmy, my dear little boy, you only get to bluff ONCE before being exposed the retard. Since you've abandoned the radiation thread, you've admitted your own ignorance.
Therefore the argument is over, and I win. ;)
As long as you remain, and continue embarrassing yourself with retread cliches, Ill be happy to point them out. Meanwhile, you've already lost.
(Still waiting for you to show that stupendous geologist you pretended to know, I bet he's even over 14).
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
This video clearly shows that this was NOT on the Moon.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"This video clearly shows that this was NOT on the Moon. "
Just ask any hoax retard! ;)
Timmy, we've got physicists and engineers to talk to. When or if we EVER need the ignorant opinion of an attention begging scientific illiterate with an 8th grade education, dont worry, you'll be the first one we call. ;)
Until then, stay with the newbs where you belong. The ADULTS are talking and dont want to be disturbed.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
You have simply failed on everything presented to you on supporting the faked moon landings yet claim to dominate.Ironic indeed. We can clearly see you are not the sharpest tool in the shed and certinly not a spokesman for NASA or whatever they have, on behalf of thier defense in the exposure of the Lunar Landing Hoax.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
You can't answer that. Can you... You little retard.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Sorry Timmy, since I just answered your illiterate question, does this mean you'll finally answer one of mine? ;)
You know, with answers other than "you..you...you..STUPID MAN!"
Since I answered yours, I am obviously superior, as you continue to run like a little girl every time I called your moronic bluffs elsewhere.
If you cant answer my radiation questions, the ADULT thing to do would be to admit it. I'm not dropping it until you admit you were faking. Its embarrassingly obvious.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
In other words, you do not have an answer.Only clap trap.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
You have absolutely no common sense
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Timmy's 3 bluffs:
1) "I have tons of evidence!"
2) "I know scientists!"
3) "I know radiation!"
Results when asked to prove it?
1) (Never mentioned again)
2) (Never mentioned again)
3) TBA
We can only wait and laugh ;) Timmy didnt know that he's arguing with someone who ACTUALLY HAS a Certificate of Radiation Safety. I know he's usually impressed with any 14 year-old quack he cut and pasted online, but I am going to continue to call every ignoramus retarded bluff he makes.
Keep em coming. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago 2
1).Geologists have already proven your Moon Rocks to be clay.
2). I have already shown in each post positive proof in which you ignore because you are embarrassed .
3). You said that radiation on the moon -250f in shade and 250f in Sun is thermodynamically impossible. That is wrong.. etc.
You are wrong about just about everything you say. In fact I cant find a single thing you are actualy right about. Hmm funny. Quit queer you are.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
""1).Geologists have already proven your Moon Rocks to be clay."
WHEN
WHERE
WHO
Answer RIGHT NOW. You've been exposed 3 times as a retarded faker and I'm aghast you're dumb enough to try it again. You know shit.
"I have already shown in each post positive proof"
Funny, all I've seen is dorky bluffing. You've posted NOTHING and you know it. You can lie to yourself, but not to us
"You are wrong about just about everything you say."
You always use cliches when you're desperate. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
Timmy, I know amongst your virgin dork crowd, saying "but I cut and pasted it!" counts as evidence, but adult men have higher standards.
As much fun as you have bluffing about facts and scientists, when I ask you for specifics, and you bellyflop, I can ask for no better proof of your incompetence. ;)
You HAVENT named any scientists.
You HAVENT given any facts.
I'm hoping you'll make an idiot out of yourself with the radiation claim. Dont let me down. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
You and your claim as people bluffing all the time about how it was Faked is getting tired. We know it was Faked. It has been proven over an over again it was Faked and you like to ignore the fact that I proved you wrong on every point you have tried to make. None of you dreams of NSASs hoax is real. Get over it kid.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"You and your claim as people bluffing all the time about how it was Faked is getting tired."
You can stop bluffing then. ;)
Sorry charlie, but you dug this moronic hole all by yourself.
For Example:
"It has been proven over an over again"
WHERE?
How many times have you avoided the same question? If its so gosh darn obvious why do you run like a little girl every time I ask for proof?
Junior, you cant just yell "FAKE!" and pretend to be clever. Its been done before and they were retards too.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
You proven me wrong?
GREAT! This means you can answer all my questions right now! ;)
Remember these?
1) How much radiation is fatal?
2) What geologist called the rocks fake?
3) What scientists say its fake?
I'm SO glad you have answers to those, I was afraid you were looking like a mcnugget counting little boy begging for attention. ;)
Spare us the frantic cliches. If you dont have answers then you dont have answers.
And you're a predictable newb.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
Instead of insulting most peoples intelligence by answering your simple yet stupid questions, I will ask you again questions you have been asked and can never seem to find an answer to.
1) What is the vacuum resistance on the moon .
2)How was that measured?
3)If measured correctly, how do we know it was the same degree of vacuum in the chamber on your stupid TV show?(mythblusters)
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"Instead of insulting most peoples intelligence by answering your simple yet stupid questions,"
"More cliches for $1000 Alex."
You can lie to yourself, but not to us.
You brought up radiation as a bluff, not knowing a thing.
You brought up geologists as a bluff, not knowing a thing.
Some of us dont need to bluff you know. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
"1) What is the vacuum resistance on the moon ."
One, you've never asked that before.
Two, its an obvious cut and paste from somewhere else
Three, its a retarded question (as I'll explain).
Vacuum doesnt have "resistance" you dumbass. Its the ABSENCE of everything. Regular air pressure, in a regular atmosphere, is 15 lbs per inch.
Without air, THERE IS NO RESISTANCE, NO FRICTION. Are you still in 8th grade for god sake?
Therefore, "moon resistance" (a fake term) = zero
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago 2
You say the Vacuum on the Moon is the ABSENCE of everything then you are admitting the ABSENCE of the Astronauts. This is clear! You are caught in something you do not understand. This is your problem..
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Looks like you've been PWNED. ;)
Not only did I answer your idiotic questions, but I did it with absolutely zero hesitation. Quite a change from your stalling, backpedaling, and frantic desperation to change the subject.
Why exactly DO YOU bring up topics you're ignorant in? Why were you dumb enough to think you'd never be asked?
I'll say it again. Go watch my physics vids. You'll LEARN something.
In the very least, why you shouldnt argue with a professional. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
We know it was Faked.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
Well at least you are finally admitting it.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Sorry charlie, some wise guy has hacked into my name.
What could force a scientifically illiterate mcdork into such a desperate act? We have no idea. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
One more time for the record:
"1) What is the vacuum resistance on the moon"
ZERO
"2)How was that measured?"
WITH A BAROMETER???? Maybe? (Your stupidity is horrifying)
"3)If measured correctly, how do we know it was the same degree of vacuum in the chamber on your stupid TV show?(mythblusters)"
Because THEY USED ANOTHER BAROMETER?
You've never heard of that tool have you? That would be shocking. ;)
You cant bellyflop 12 other questions and then pretend to be over 14 years old now.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
There is no evidence that Man landed on the Moon. Just tons of evidence that they did not Land on the Moon.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"Only knuklehead HS teachers are fooled and as a result they teach our kids that this hoax was real. "
For some reason, they feel accomplished PHds hold more credibility than Mcdork internet trolls with delusions of saving the world.
Tell you what, you keep the hoaxaholic wannabe Mcnugget makers, and we'll keep the professional engineers. We'll then let you tell everyone EXACTLY how you got the better end of the deal. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
They where pulled up by wire to simulate less gravity. You can play the tape at any speed you want. It won't matter. You can clearly see it was faked/a hoax.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
How, when not even Douglas Trumbull could hide wires on camera?
shanedk 3 years ago
Well then he must be brain dead. Chris Angel does it all the time. All wires are there but you can't see them. Chris Angel does a better job at hiding wire.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Not in 1969 he didn't.
shanedk 3 years ago
This video is clear evidence that it was a hoax.look at 3:10 how the guy on the right is supposed to be on the moon. The dirt kicked up drops long before he does. If you took a course in physics you would know it would drop at the same time. It doesnt matter the speed of the video.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
No, because the dust doesn't go as high. You talk about physics when you clearly don't even know the basics!
I also proved in another video that the dust drops at the same rate as the astronaut, negating the possibility of wires.
shanedk 3 years ago
Well you are blind then. It clearly goes as high if not higher and lands far sooner than the guy in the space suit. If you took a course in phyisics you would know and see how obvious it is that they were being pulled up by wires. The wires can even be seen in some of the videos. You make a very weak argument.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
I've taken SEVERAL physics courses AND ACED THEM ALL. My video was also reviewed by SEVERAL professional physicists who agree with me.
You are clearly clueless on the subject, and don't even WANT to learn.
shanedk 3 years ago
Are you even looking at the video you posted? Look at 0:23 It clearly shows how the surface dust falls from the same height and lands well before the astronaut does. Speeding up the tape like you did or slowing it down doesn't matter. They were being pulled up by wires.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Idiot, I examined it FRAME BY FRAME. I MEASURED the EXACT number of frames it took to fall and the EXACT number of pixels it fell. I did the same for the astronaut over the same number of frames.
THE DUST DOES NOT GO AS HIGH, AND IT FALLS AT THE SAME RATE. You are DELUSIONAL. You need HELP!
shanedk 3 years ago
Boy you have allot to learn. You Moon fools are so desperate and in denial and cant handle the fact that you were fooled. And will say anything even though the true facts are right in front of you. It is very sad how much it hurts you people deep down inside.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"You Moon fools are so desperate and in denial and cant handle the fact that you were fooled."
Ten out of ten dorks agree!
So let me get this straight: we got scientific illiterate mcdorks pushing easily refutable "facts" (which are AT LEAST ten years above their education level), which they cut and pasted from DVD hucksters who PRETEND to be physicists but arent?
I'm sorry, but I missed the part where we were supposed to be scared.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
"This is right in front of you to look at it as a fact and nothing more."
Uh oh! Its the ole "Everyone's an idiot except ME" counterargument!
You see wires and dust because you've been TOLD to.
Therefore everyone who DOESN'T see them has to be an moron.
Because if they're NOT, by definition, YOU ARE.
And you'll never admit that. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
(cont)
And you'll never admit that. ;)
So we'll get no facts from you, just variations on "You SUCK" until you realize 8th grade arguments make you look like the 14 year old that you are.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
I am stating my Opinions on the topic by Facts, knowledge and Intelligence but you are just a very angry, antagonistic, insulting person. I do not believe they went to the Moon. There are too many factors and so much evidence that it was a hoax that You probably have not even come across yet. You have also failed to be nonbelligerent in your comments.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"I am stating my Opinions"
Not to be rude, but SCREW your opinion.
We dont need "opinions" we need facts. And facts are what you avoid.
-Its a FACT that you cant provide any witness or documents.
-Its a FACT that your evidence is so BLAND, that you're desperately reduced to bringing up dust.
-Its a FACT that no geologist anywhere has called the moonrocks fake.
-Its a FACT that after 40 years you havent broken the alibi of even ONE astronaut.
This isnt even a contest! You've got jack.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
You can even see in this video. The guy jumps up, the dirt falls to the ground and then the wire lets the astronaut down. You telling me I am delusional is the weakest argument I have found yet. As an analogy: I say I see green and you say no its purple you are delusional'.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
I PROVED it. I examined the video in detail, posted the results, and it was CONFIRMED by PROFESSIONAL PHYSICISTS.
Where's YOUR proof?
shanedk 3 years ago
"and so much evidence that it was a hoax"
NONE of which are presented by experts.
NONE of which survive analysis by experts.
ALL of which has been ridiculed to within an inch of its life.
You're in some wannabe fairytale where you think all it takes is 5 virgins in their basement to say "FAKE" and therefore THAT PROVES IT! NEVERMIND they have 8th grade education! NEVERMIND they never have ANY professional to agree. Its always just mcjobs who you're too dumb to question.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
Everything as been presented to experts and NASA spokesman but never fully answered. Only knuklehead HS teachers are fooled and as a result they teach our kids that this hoax was real.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
They HAVE been answered. EVERY reasonable person accepts the answers. ONLY the stupid hoaxtards don't.
shanedk 3 years ago
"Everything as been presented to experts and NASA spokesman but never fully answered."
Says who? A smelly room of hoax panderers? Who'd believe bigfoot shot JFK if a webpage told them?
Unfortunately, any review at all of the typical hoax dork reveals an under-educated, under-employed wannabe, begging for attention in matters ten years above his experience level. I've been waiting for YEARS for the hoaxtards to present an actual physicist to agree with them.
I'll be waiting a long time. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
You two guys/ (you tube accounts) should do more research to learn more about this topic. One example that you clearly do not know is the fact that many of the Conspiracy Theorists are Doctors, Professors, Scientists, Physicists and Astrophysicists etc. Most are not but have intelligent theories based on gathered facts. They are not 8th grade children.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Names, please?
Because I can name you PLENTY who say that it's bogus.
shanedk 3 years ago
shanedk is one
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"is the fact that many of the Conspiracy Theorists are Doctors, Professors, Scientists, Physicists and Astrophysicists"
Horseshit.
Sorry charlie, but you've been taken for a ride. The ole "but my 2nd cousins former roommate knew man who thought he met.." blah blah is tried here ALL the time. But EVERY SINGLE TIME we ask for names...
...you disappear. You stall, you backpedal, you bluff.
Why is that? Why is it that when we ASK for these stupendous men, we never get them?
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
If I want to I could bury you in Factual Evidence that you clearly dont even know about yet and you would be in way over your head.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"If I want to I could bury you in Factual Evidence"
Oh No! Another flimsy bluff from a conspiraholic illiterate! ;)
What if I file this bluff right next to your claim of knowing "scientists and astophysicists" who supported the hoax? Since you bellyflopped that one, I'm still waiting to be impressed. ;)
As schooled as you are in these flimsy bluffs, I doubt you've done even rudimentary research to see how they've been ridiculed long before you ever sailed in here as the wannabe.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
'I know them personally. Why should I tell you?'
Because its the only way you'll ever PROVE it.
You obviously havent been paying attention. Pretending and bluffing about "I KNOW SOMEBODY" is standard cliche' stalling for hoax nerds who run out of talking points before they run out of mouth.
And guess what, you sound just like them. ;)
"I cant tell you! cuase...cause...cuase...THEY'RE SECRET!"
They're also transparent lies and you know it. Spare us the nerdiness please.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
Go for it! We await with bated breath...
shanedk 3 years ago
"should do more research to learn more about this topic"
No offense, but you're no rocket scientist. ;)
I've been arguing the "hoax" for years, even made my own movies pointing out the more stupid aspects of it (under another name here, if you're curious).
You're fairly typical and predictable as far as the panderers go: running out of talking points in one round, being reduced to the indignity of "you...you...you STUPID MAN!" after the slightest disagreement. We've heard it all before.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
You still completely fail to convince anyone anywhere in the world that such a claim as Man Walking on the Moon was Real while they know it was Faked with reason.
It is a fact that many of the Conspiracy Theorists are Doctors, Professors, Scientists, Physicists and Astrophysicists. And you ask me for names? I know a few personally. Why should I give you their names? Like I said do some more research and learn some more about this topic before you consider yourself an expert.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"You still completely fail to convince anyone anywhere in the world that such a claim as Man Walking on the Moon was Real"
Why? Because 8 virgin nerds in a dank basement say so? OH NO! ;)
You keep the hoaxaholic dorks who'd believe bigfoot shot JFK if a webpage told them, and we'll keep the engineers who actually work in the field-and laugh at people like you. You can then explain why you got the better end of the deal. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
Lets just face the Facts here instead. There is No concrete evidence that you went to the Moon.. But yet TONS of evidence that you did not go to the Moon. HMM go ahead and wonder why that is...
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"here is No concrete evidence that you went to the Moon"
You are honestly retarded.
MOONROCKS?????? Moonrocks on display in 12 INTERNATIONAL museums? Given away to 150 countries?
We have INTERNATIONAL scientists to say we went. Not only do you not have international scientists, you dont have ANY AT ALL.
I know you dont like being caught bluffing. Instead of practicing willful ignorance of the last 40 years, you should ask yourself why you came here so entirely unprepared.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
Scientists all over the world conclude it was Fake. You have absolutely No scientist in the world that agree with you. You have Nothing but videos that clearly show it was recorded on Earth and videos of them in Orbit about 400 miles above the earth and clearly lie by saying it was 120,000 miles away. Get real. You do agree about the Van Allen Radiation Belts that begin 500 miles above the Earth. The Moon is the most potent form of that radiation. You have No Idea what you are talking about.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"Scientists all over the world conclude it was Fake."
Names, please.
shanedk 3 years ago
"Scientists all over the world conclude it was Fake"
The scientists we already caught you bluffing on? ;)
Dude, either name one or shut up. We're tired of you embarrassing yourself with transparent bluffing. You've got NOTHING and you know it.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
"The Moon is the most potent form of that radiation"
Oh no! The Newbie yells "RADIATION!" and pretends to be an expert!
Timmy, I spent the summer in a nuclear reactor. What did you do? ;)
"Radiation!" is the typical BIG SCARY WORD newbies yell to pretend to be smart. I can ask you even SIMPLE question and you'll bomb them all.
"moon is potent source."
ABSOLUTE HORSESHIT. Bald face ignorance. The SUN is. ANd the belts stop WAY short of the moon. You cant bluff an expert.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
Now Timmy, You've been caught bluffing before, once on mysterious "scientists," and now I;ve caught you again.
ANY technical worker with a high school education is required to take an annual hazardous materials test. HERE ARE THE EASY QUESTIONS:
1) How much radiation is fatal?
2) How much radiation is in space?
3) How is radiation blocked?
THOSE ARE ASKED AT THE FRESHMEN LEVEL.
ANSWER THEM. NOW. I am sick and tired of your bald-faced faking and ignorance.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
None of this is even slight proof. Moon rocks? Funny how that was made out of the same material that they use on professional RC off road racetracks. Its NOT from the Moon. Its rare Clay.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
Racetrack asphalt has an absence of water-formed minerals and alterations? Racetrack asphalt is abundant in rare-Earth elements and displays evidence of meteor impacts? Racetrack asphalt has EXACTLY the right isotopes to be 4 billion years old?
You're a moron.
shanedk 3 years ago
"Funny how that was made out of the same material that they use on professional RC off road racetracks."
GREAT! Then find a single geologist to say so!
Or let me guess, you dont have a geologist? You have 4 virgins in a dank basement pretending to use big words? And you were dumb enough to believe them? ;)
Timmy, I know you're embarrassed about being caught bluffing over and over, but stop wasting our time with newbie retardedness.
A GEOLOGIST is the only prove I will accept.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
"Well you are blind then"
Once again, the "Everyone's an idiot except ME!" counterargument. Preferred by bluffers everywhere. ;)
Bear in mind, if the rest of your "evidence" was worth a damn, would you really be frantically desperate enough to measure dust particles?
I didnt think so.
Was this where we were supposed to be worried?
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
jewsplottokill2012 has been blocked from this channel for making multiple racist and bigoted comments, which have been removed (yes, they were WORSE than what remains).
shanedk 3 years ago
I wish we went to the moon. I would love to experience that but it never happened. This video clearly shows evidence that it never happend.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
"This video clearly shows evidence that it never happend"
I wish this "evidence" would be presented by anyone qualified, rather than scientifically illiterate paranoids out to expose "hoaxes" to make themselves feel important.
As long as the "hoax" has ONLY mcnugget making dorks as its primary supporter, any claim of "proof" is ridiculous.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 years ago
he just some more crap @ watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4
jewsplottokill2012 = big frakking liar.
nakazatoGTR 3 years ago
jewsplottokill2012,
i dunno where you pull your crappy storytelling from, but since you have not posted links, evidence, and facts online, and you just keep flloding one thread to the other betrays your lies. your better off as a sci fi wrtier.
nakazatoGTR 3 years ago
you folks will have to learn the hard way. i feel sorry for you fools who believe lies
jewsplottokill2012 3 years ago
and how does teh CIA kow so much about the dead bin ladin but cant seem to find him?? why dont they get the news reporter who found him the first time and got an interview with him to go find him again?? you poor folks
jewsplottokill2012 3 years ago