I think had Obama just told us what he believes, and that he differs from his pastor and good friend on issue A, B, and C, the two of them (whose friendship are not built upon adherence to issue A, B, and C) would not have had to distance themselves from one another.
Instead, he tried to feel his way out of this, and further the suspicions that 1.) no one knows who Obama is and 2.) Obama isn't really sure who he is, or what he believes.
I love how this professor doesn't say anything. He just bla bla bla's about stuff everyone knows but doesn't come to any conclusions or anything interesting to hear about. He's basically just saying what everyone already knows and acting like he just gave you intelligent input.
Billionaire Haim Saban backs Hillary, bigtime! He is mad and is lobbying Pelosi!
Walgreens, Toyota Tundra, Kohls, Kmart, Pontiac Vibe, and Sprint are major advertisers on the Univision network, where Hiam Saban as CEO uses the company's resources to dramatically boost Latino voter registrations expecting to help Hillary.
The one thing that we can bank on is a new republican president in Jan 2009 if this keeps up. The Democratic party is going to see a mass exodus no matter who wins. To much mud and name calling. Not enough issue driven conversation.
allxdeamer. I LOVE Malcolm X. He was exhiled from the Nation of Islam and then took a religios trip to Mecca where he met muslims of all ethnicities. This is when he reformed his political views and spoke internationally and stateside of equality "by any means neccessary" and uniting under righteousness. You should read his autobiography, by Alex Haley. I let my 7 year old write a paper about him.
God bless brother Malcolm, a great leader!We'll never forget you. He fought so I wouldn't have to.
You're a moron. "He fought so I wouldn't have to." Dude, wake up. The battle hasn't even started yet and you think someone already won it for you. Le sigh.
i for a revote.....but ...there is no reason to believe that Hillary would win either...AND the DNC gave the sanction not Barack Obama;s Camp. you should be man at the DNC and your state legislatures for moving up your parties election. THE RULES WERE MADE BEFORE OBAMA OR CLINTON RAN FOR PRESIDENT!!!
Irratioanity, is that people think that Senator Obama said these things, When do Americans think for themselves, like Senator thinks for himself. Take what you want and leave the rest. I go to church to pray in communion with others Not to listen to anyone.
Ha ha ha ha.....Republicans will get the last laugh if Hitlery or Obama are elected, because neither of them will withdraw troops from Iraq. Both know perfectly well that doing so will bring another attack on the US in warp-speed, and put our nation in constant risk. They are flaming liberals, but they know it's political suicide to throw America to the muslim wolves. No withdrawel will happen anytime soon.
If you say America CAUSED 9/11 and teach GOD DAMN AMERICA instead of God Bless America - there's no 2 ways about it here. I don't care WHAT your skin color is - it's hate and racism. Seacrh Rev Wright and see for yourself. Obama is done, now way any like him getting into the White House.
I find it phoney that Obama claims to not know and subscribe to the viewpoints of a preacher he has listened to for 20 years. That's just phoney. Phoney, as in BS, as in a lie, as in (perhaps) an agenda.
There is nothing phoney about agreeing to disagree. Obama may verywell disgree With the statements that Pastor Wright said. does not mean they aren't true. Pastor Wright is a great man of God, his life has shown that. Thats why Obama has been there for 20 yrs. It take a hell of a man, to stand there & say what Wright said. The world will always hate anyone that points out its injustice. Thats why they hated JESUS & if you are following Jesus correctly, the world should hate you also.
But that's not the case here, is it? Obama gives this man credit for "leading me to Christ" and until now, he was the campaign's spiritual advisor. So this guy is a formative influence on him, not just a talking head in a pulpit he only half listens to. He only denounced this advisor when it looked bad for the campaign. Before that he tried the "I don't know, I wasn't there" card, which I am calling dishonest as this clearly was not one isolated sermon that he just happened to miss.
Personally, I think you're looking for ANY reason to avoid voting for Obama, even if it means voting for someone who agrees with tampering with the voting process and someone else who'll probably reinstitute the draft and send everyone and their brother to Iraq. One hundred years is a long time and the "willing and able" have to come from somewhere.
You couldn't be further from the truth about me. I was giving up on Hillary and taking a second look at Obama right before this story broke. And I actually preferred his stance on healthcare over Hillary's. My concern with this story is identical to my prior concern about Romney--they are free to believe in whatever they want, but I am free to not vote for people whose belief systems seem irrational. Is he as bad as Romney? Probably not, but I want more time to decide, or another choice.Gore'08!
I think had Obama just told us what he believes, and that he differs from his pastor and good friend on issue A, B, and C, the two of them (whose friendship are not built upon adherence to issue A, B, and C) would not have had to distance themselves from one another.
Instead, he tried to feel his way out of this, and further the suspicions that 1.) no one knows who Obama is and 2.) Obama isn't really sure who he is, or what he believes.
MarketAndChurch 2 years ago
You did not address the point my good friend.
BerPC96 2 years ago
I love how this professor doesn't say anything. He just bla bla bla's about stuff everyone knows but doesn't come to any conclusions or anything interesting to hear about. He's basically just saying what everyone already knows and acting like he just gave you intelligent input.
DWest174 2 years ago
Billionaire Haim Saban backs Hillary, bigtime! He is mad and is lobbying Pelosi!
Walgreens, Toyota Tundra, Kohls, Kmart, Pontiac Vibe, and Sprint are major advertisers on the Univision network, where Hiam Saban as CEO uses the company's resources to dramatically boost Latino voter registrations expecting to help Hillary.
Call or email these advertisers and
let them know you are boycotting them
for Saban's corrupting influence.
Walgreens: (847) 914-2500
shockingtruths 3 years ago
The one thing that we can bank on is a new republican president in Jan 2009 if this keeps up. The Democratic party is going to see a mass exodus no matter who wins. To much mud and name calling. Not enough issue driven conversation.
bmstv 3 years ago
allxdeamer. I LOVE Malcolm X. He was exhiled from the Nation of Islam and then took a religios trip to Mecca where he met muslims of all ethnicities. This is when he reformed his political views and spoke internationally and stateside of equality "by any means neccessary" and uniting under righteousness. You should read his autobiography, by Alex Haley. I let my 7 year old write a paper about him.
God bless brother Malcolm, a great leader!We'll never forget you. He fought so I wouldn't have to.
blkazn77 3 years ago
You're a moron. "He fought so I wouldn't have to." Dude, wake up. The battle hasn't even started yet and you think someone already won it for you. Le sigh.
DWest174 2 years ago
i for a revote.....but ...there is no reason to believe that Hillary would win either...AND the DNC gave the sanction not Barack Obama;s Camp. you should be man at the DNC and your state legislatures for moving up your parties election. THE RULES WERE MADE BEFORE OBAMA OR CLINTON RAN FOR PRESIDENT!!!
pvslotwr5 3 years ago
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cacmxliii 3 years ago
Irratioanity, is that people think that Senator Obama said these things, When do Americans think for themselves, like Senator thinks for himself. Take what you want and leave the rest. I go to church to pray in communion with others Not to listen to anyone.
wrestlingjoker666 3 years ago
Ha ha ha ha.....Republicans will get the last laugh if Hitlery or Obama are elected, because neither of them will withdraw troops from Iraq. Both know perfectly well that doing so will bring another attack on the US in warp-speed, and put our nation in constant risk. They are flaming liberals, but they know it's political suicide to throw America to the muslim wolves. No withdrawel will happen anytime soon.
sjcpony 3 years ago
If you say America CAUSED 9/11 and teach GOD DAMN AMERICA instead of God Bless America - there's no 2 ways about it here. I don't care WHAT your skin color is - it's hate and racism. Seacrh Rev Wright and see for yourself. Obama is done, now way any like him getting into the White House.
MoveOnDotOrgg 3 years ago
get ready 4 obama baby,dont hate,congratulate
jarretrichardson 3 years ago
I find it phoney that Obama claims to not know and subscribe to the viewpoints of a preacher he has listened to for 20 years. That's just phoney. Phoney, as in BS, as in a lie, as in (perhaps) an agenda.
grupolavolta 3 years ago
There is nothing phoney about agreeing to disagree. Obama may verywell disgree With the statements that Pastor Wright said. does not mean they aren't true. Pastor Wright is a great man of God, his life has shown that. Thats why Obama has been there for 20 yrs. It take a hell of a man, to stand there & say what Wright said. The world will always hate anyone that points out its injustice. Thats why they hated JESUS & if you are following Jesus correctly, the world should hate you also.
noinwe 3 years ago 2
Um...it's not that uncommon a thing. I know people who have gone to a church for YEARS and don't believe half (if any) of what the preacher says.
cookielove500 3 years ago
But that's not the case here, is it? Obama gives this man credit for "leading me to Christ" and until now, he was the campaign's spiritual advisor. So this guy is a formative influence on him, not just a talking head in a pulpit he only half listens to. He only denounced this advisor when it looked bad for the campaign. Before that he tried the "I don't know, I wasn't there" card, which I am calling dishonest as this clearly was not one isolated sermon that he just happened to miss.
grupolavolta 3 years ago
Personally, I think you're looking for ANY reason to avoid voting for Obama, even if it means voting for someone who agrees with tampering with the voting process and someone else who'll probably reinstitute the draft and send everyone and their brother to Iraq. One hundred years is a long time and the "willing and able" have to come from somewhere.
cookielove500 3 years ago
You couldn't be further from the truth about me. I was giving up on Hillary and taking a second look at Obama right before this story broke. And I actually preferred his stance on healthcare over Hillary's. My concern with this story is identical to my prior concern about Romney--they are free to believe in whatever they want, but I am free to not vote for people whose belief systems seem irrational. Is he as bad as Romney? Probably not, but I want more time to decide, or another choice.Gore'08!
grupolavolta 3 years ago
I was leaning towards Obama myself till this story broke. I just can't in good conscience vote for Obama now. I wish we could get Gore in there.
WildRiverman 3 years ago