My uncle was on Saipan with the Sea Bees during the war. While stationed on Guam in 76/77, I visited Saipan twice. A WW2 buffs dream. I would love to visit again someday. I noticed that with all the pictures and video of human remains, you never show skulls. Is this out of respect for the dead?
İ need to learn the exact location of this cave.Can anyone please help me? İ will take pictures in order to make my ww2 archive bigger.Also i can get clues about the life of ww2 japanese soldiers.Also,is there really LİVE GRENADES there?
Well done, I like the fact that you leave the items there in the cave and are carefull not to step on things and disturb them. Good videos, I did check your other ones too. Next time I go home to Philippines I will make some video. Also I know some cool spots there.
I was going to say, "Auwe messing with bones!", having spent time in Hawai'i. Kanaka Iwi Ma'oli, or "ancient bones" are very sacred, and should never be touched. But if you're helping the Bone Collectors, then blessings be upon you. May they rest in peace.
what is kind of sad is in these caves there is un spent grenades and probly morters,.that you just proved anyone could find. my point is people are stupid and try to take shit home as "souvineers" all it would take is a nice ""thump""to one of the grenades and blamo there goes yer day
A photo has displayed at the Nanking Massacre Museum. The caption said, "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of them were gang raped or forced into military prostitution. But this photo appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on Nov 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle. The explanation says, "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers."
I take it there aren't any/many archaeologists that are interested in these caves? In most places, what you're doing might be considered disturbing historical sites. Do they not have any laws against such things there in Saipan? Not tryhing to indict you, just pointing this out and wondering.
@willhahn There's no archaeologists and no money in the foreseeable future to hire any. There doesn't even seem to be any interests in the topic. I feel that it is important enough to document the history that remains in the caves. Soon it will be gone and forgotten.
i love your explorations your a talented and knowledgeable explorer with great videos ive subscribed to you channel and hope to see more of your work great job friend
Moving dead people last remains is heavy bad mojo man, any native Canadiian remains touched is big law trouble. Respect for the dead is key I guess, no matter what the stupid politics.
@SaipanPictures did you find dog tags among the pile of bones? İ am asking this because i need to know that atleast some MİA have been found.Also if you remember can you give me these= 1.The finding place of skeletons,2.The appearent cause of death,3.The names on the dog tags (if found).
Currently i am making a project of documenting WW2 & WW1 soldiers,and writing their stories.İt is a way to remember them for me.Thats why i request these.Thank you.
Do you know the term "in situ"? It's what archeologists need in order to really put the things in the caves in proper perspective. when you move the bones all over and you move the items, then a professional, even if it's 200 years from now, won't know what you did. Please stop moving stuff around in the caves. Look, don't touch, or put it back exactly where you found it.
@anonymoususerindenve Normally that is my practice but you don't know the correct protocol for Saipan. What I am suppose to do is put all those bones in a bucket and take them to a Japanese religious figure. He would then say a prayer and cremate the bones. In fact, in the past I was contacted and asked to be a bone collector. I declined and didn't want to offer the location of these caves so someone else could collect the bones.
@anonymoususerindenve As far as an expert archaeological dig, wont happen. These people blew up and died the same as 57,000 others during the Battle of Saipan.
@SweStuff94 There may have been more than 1 grenade explode. Only 1 grenade remained unexploded. Perhaps it was a dud or perhaps no one was left to use it.
Thanks for the video. But please, do be careful in those kinds of environments. Those munitions lying around, while old, doesn't make them any less dangerous, in fact more so. The worst is what you don't see. I remember the warning signs everywhere when I visited Verdun in France.
Appreciate you sharing this, but it's not worth getting killed or injured over. Stay safe.
@Schone23666 Thanks Schone. Being careful is always good advice around here. I know how to stay safe around the ones that you can see but, as you mentioned, the ones buried just below the surface are the dangerous ones.
@TheForever121 The two grenades are completely different. The American grenade is nicknamed a pineapple because it looks like a smaller version. The Japanese grenade looks like a tin can with a round thing sticking out of one end.
@TheForever121 It's important to note the Japanese grenades apparently had a habit for being finicky. To operate a Japanese grenade, one had to typically pull the safety pin, then strike the fuse itself against a hard surface like a rock or helmet, then throw. Problem was, the fuses weren't always reliable as they used a not-so-reliable spring and could in some cases prematurely detonate! =O
@Schone23666 Well production really went badly for the Japanese towards the end as the Americans targeted them where it hurts. So they had to use inferior materials and poor workmanship as the war progressed. Having said that, IJA army equipment was infamous for its shoddy construction. Most of its resources went towards its navy and air-force rather than the land army.
@romanlegions Very true. Another factor that apparently didn't help the Japanese was that many of their small arms designs were not very well thought out and apparently had mixed results in the field (this isn't to say they were all failures). Although it would make sense that resources would be allocated toward the Navy and Air Force, you still need well armed and well trained troops to hold the ground obviously, or islands in this case.
@Schone23666 IJA equipment bordered on the obsolete with many firearms and artillery were produced during the Russo-Japanese war at the dawn of the 20th Century! The resources in-fighting didn't help either with its many different branches of the military fighting for resources. Despite such material deficiency, they managed to hold on and fight for every inch of land they occupied.
Cool Video Thanks for Posting. Did you find any weapons, ammo or gear like Helmets in that cave, other than Grenades? I wonder if the Japanese Military gave the Civilians Grenades to commit suicide with? The Japanese Military Leaders in Tokyo told Civilians that the US GI's would rape then kill the females & eat the kids. Told them they would join a higher caste in death by suicide. After war they denied that ever said that. No War Crimes there? How sad. What do the Memorials on Saipan say?
@ClarenceBoddicker87 Thanks Clarence. I didn't find any other military artifacts in this cave. There may have been only one or two Japanese military in this cave and the rest could have been civilians. The memorials here are mostly from the modern Japanese so, as you could guess, nothing negative is mentioned.
@MAKER6450 Hi Maker6450, Normally I often see evidence of someone having been places before me but not this cave. Given its location, there is a good chance that very few people, if any, have been there since WWII.
Hi Eric,I love watching your vids,to be honest Ive missed them over the last few weeks,,so its great to have you back posting them.However I must say-I think you do them with a great dignity and quietness.I watched this vid and it really hit home that these were real people real lives(something I must admit I forget sometimes when doing research)The tank battle vid was excellent and this is just as good.Thanks Eric,,keep posting,,but never change your style.Kindest regards Graham
@urchin76 Thanks Graham, you are very kind. Every once in a while I find something that makes me stop to think, like a baby's shoe. Japanese soldiers were not the only ones in these caves. The soldiers took charge of the Japanese civilians on island and led them to the caves of Saipan and, towards the end of the battle, the Japanese soldiers committed mass murders.
@MilesAtSea That would be a great find. I'm not sure if the tin would survive 66 years in the damp, salty air of the caves. Although I heard one was found on the beach years back and they were able to track down and give it back to its owner still alive in Japan. He was one of the very few Japanese to surrender.
@SaipanPictures Not made of tin the original Japanese dog tag where made of a type of brass some of which mined in China was vary corrosion resistant with a high zinc alloys.
@MilesAtSea That should survive but probably buried under a thin layer of dirt. I try not to do any digging anywhere in Saipan. You will find something but probably a bomb or hand grenade.
@SaipanPictures I heard that some times they would put in a stack 1 of the 2 Dog Tags before doing a suicidal banzai charge on a make shift Shinto Shrine (the state religion at the time) in the shape of a cuboid or rectangular rock for a altar-like structure as if it was an Offering (as in offering them self as soldiers to die for the Emperor) I would say look for Saki and Beer bottles around the area the dog tags where found.
My uncle was on Saipan with the Sea Bees during the war. While stationed on Guam in 76/77, I visited Saipan twice. A WW2 buffs dream. I would love to visit again someday. I noticed that with all the pictures and video of human remains, you never show skulls. Is this out of respect for the dead?
olentangy74 1 week ago
@olentangy74 Hi Olentangy. Often times the skulls are broken into little pieces.
SaipanPictures 1 week ago
They need to bury these guys.
counterstrikenerd321 3 weeks ago
@counterstrikenerd321 Actually they will be cremated... eventually.
SaipanPictures 3 weeks ago
İ need to learn the exact location of this cave.Can anyone please help me? İ will take pictures in order to make my ww2 archive bigger.Also i can get clues about the life of ww2 japanese soldiers.Also,is there really LİVE GRENADES there?
IsengardMordor 3 weeks ago
Wow dude I hardly ever watch video's over a couple minutes long but your video's are very interesting... like a youtube version of Indiana Jones.
TheCaferocker 1 month ago
@TheCaferocker Thanks Caferocker.
SaipanPictures 1 month ago
Well done, I like the fact that you leave the items there in the cave and are carefull not to step on things and disturb them. Good videos, I did check your other ones too. Next time I go home to Philippines I will make some video. Also I know some cool spots there.
burnoutking1971 1 month ago
@wilatemodel How so?
BoyJewish 2 months ago
Nicolas Cage was amazing on Saipan! He killed half the Japanese Army!
BoyJewish 2 months ago
Where any of the Japanese soldiers jewish?
BoyJewish 2 months ago
@BoyJewish I don't think so.
SaipanPictures 2 months ago
That cave is probably haunted!!!
kicknbazz1615 2 months ago
@kicknbazz1615 It should be but I didn't see anything. Perhaps the ghosts are hiding because they know I'm a Marine.
SaipanPictures 2 months ago
I was going to say, "Auwe messing with bones!", having spent time in Hawai'i. Kanaka Iwi Ma'oli, or "ancient bones" are very sacred, and should never be touched. But if you're helping the Bone Collectors, then blessings be upon you. May they rest in peace.
IonOtter 2 months ago
Are those ashes everywhere sad that it happened
reddyprodections 2 months ago
did you find anything other than shoes and grenades? sure it werent just a cobbler who had run out of buissness and decided to end it all?
MrPorktoast 2 months ago
why is his bubby pickin up fingers and puting them on the wall
m16nut1 3 months ago
@m16nut1 So that the Japanese bone collectors can find it easier.
SaipanPictures 3 months ago
damn that must have been messy with finger and back bones on the wall
michaelberryakabez 3 months ago
is your hand bleeding?
ekatkale888 3 months ago
@ekatkale888 Probably. It is easy to get cuts in caves.
SaipanPictures 3 months ago
ewww how ould you go into the cave where the japanese soldier's bodies rotted. You are breathing in their fumes
imaginator 3 months ago
@imaginator For many years after WWII that was true and people got sick when entering the caves. 70 years is more than long enough.
SaipanPictures 3 months ago
what is kind of sad is in these caves there is un spent grenades and probly morters,.that you just proved anyone could find. my point is people are stupid and try to take shit home as "souvineers" all it would take is a nice ""thump""to one of the grenades and blamo there goes yer day
Mr420ways 4 months ago
Where is all of there helmets or weapons? Already stolen?
fordwillkillyou 5 months ago
@fordwillkillyou Perhaps. There should be a lot of stuff buried in the soft dirt as well.
SaipanPictures 5 months ago
A photo has displayed at the Nanking Massacre Museum. The caption said, "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of them were gang raped or forced into military prostitution. But this photo appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on Nov 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle. The explanation says, "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers."
undertakerRach 5 months ago
1:00 theres a moan
dragon3600000 5 months ago
I take it there aren't any/many archaeologists that are interested in these caves? In most places, what you're doing might be considered disturbing historical sites. Do they not have any laws against such things there in Saipan? Not tryhing to indict you, just pointing this out and wondering.
willhahn 5 months ago
@willhahn There's no archaeologists and no money in the foreseeable future to hire any. There doesn't even seem to be any interests in the topic. I feel that it is important enough to document the history that remains in the caves. Soon it will be gone and forgotten.
SaipanPictures 5 months ago 3
The japenese resorted to commiting suicide. As they said commiting suicide his more honorable then being taken in to enemy hands
masterchieffan20 7 months ago
i love your explorations your a talented and knowledgeable explorer with great videos ive subscribed to you channel and hope to see more of your work great job friend
ProjektRenegade 7 months ago
@ProjektRenegade Thanks Projekt. You're very kind.
SaipanPictures 7 months ago
@ProjektRenegade
I love your comments your a really nice person with great things to say.
I'v subscribed to you and hope to read more of your kind words:)
Nervejunktion 4 months ago
listen real close around 2:46 you could hear someone moaning
LittleBigVathole 7 months ago
ya i hear like talkin in tha back round i didnt kno if anyone else was with u?
RedLakeNation2009 8 months ago
i watch this clip and i hear something a jap scream so clearly...try to watch and you can hear the scream
TheNorvs 9 months ago
@TheNorvs at what part!! i would like to know :(
MrGraham626 8 months ago
Moving dead people last remains is heavy bad mojo man, any native Canadiian remains touched is big law trouble. Respect for the dead is key I guess, no matter what the stupid politics.
441rider 9 months ago
@441rider In Saipan we had bone collectors to find and retrieve all bones they could find. The bones were then put in a pile and cremated.
SaipanPictures 9 months ago 9
@SaipanPictures did you find dog tags among the pile of bones? İ am asking this because i need to know that atleast some MİA have been found.Also if you remember can you give me these= 1.The finding place of skeletons,2.The appearent cause of death,3.The names on the dog tags (if found).
Currently i am making a project of documenting WW2 & WW1 soldiers,and writing their stories.İt is a way to remember them for me.Thats why i request these.Thank you.
IsengardMordor 3 weeks ago
@IsengardMordor Hi IsengardMordor.
1. The skeletons are in almost every cave.
2. The cause of death: most likely explosion, bullet, or suffocation.
3. Names: could be any one of the 23,000 missing Japanese in Saipan.
SaipanPictures 3 weeks ago
@SaipanPictures İ have a project that is to be made in 3 steps=
1-To gather every single skeleton & relic i find and put them in body bags after identifying them.
2-All of the identified remains will be sent to Japan,while all of the rest will be cremated.
3-All of the artifacts will be given to the local museums after being documented & restored
İs there any way that i can do this with support
3-
IsengardMordor 3 weeks ago
@441rider Let The Man make his videos in peace
GangstaThug15 8 months ago
Rather sad, dying in some godforsaken place, forgotten...
GaijinGDB 9 months ago
Wow.
Are'nt you afriad of these caves? i mean, they could be very well haunted and stuff! D:
JinKazama92 10 months ago
@JinKazama92 Actually I would like to see a ghost or have something strange happen. So far nothing.
SaipanPictures 10 months ago
You generally do a good job of that, but please please please people....put stuff back where you found it, in the same spot, same position.
thanks for posting the videos, and keep emphasizing the importance of not disturbing things!
anonymoususerindenve 10 months ago
Do you know the term "in situ"? It's what archeologists need in order to really put the things in the caves in proper perspective. when you move the bones all over and you move the items, then a professional, even if it's 200 years from now, won't know what you did. Please stop moving stuff around in the caves. Look, don't touch, or put it back exactly where you found it.
anonymoususerindenve 10 months ago
@anonymoususerindenve Normally that is my practice but you don't know the correct protocol for Saipan. What I am suppose to do is put all those bones in a bucket and take them to a Japanese religious figure. He would then say a prayer and cremate the bones. In fact, in the past I was contacted and asked to be a bone collector. I declined and didn't want to offer the location of these caves so someone else could collect the bones.
SaipanPictures 10 months ago
@anonymoususerindenve As far as an expert archaeological dig, wont happen. These people blew up and died the same as 57,000 others during the Battle of Saipan.
SaipanPictures 10 months ago
@anonymoususerindenve how about you mind your own busniness??
GangstaThug15 8 months ago
hard to belive that 1 nade did all that
SweStuff94 11 months ago
@SweStuff94 There may have been more than 1 grenade explode. Only 1 grenade remained unexploded. Perhaps it was a dud or perhaps no one was left to use it.
SaipanPictures 11 months ago
@SaipanPictures yeah ok :) but still wers the skulls? i have lokkt on some of ur vids but i have never seen anny heads, how come
SweStuff94 11 months ago
Thanks for the video. But please, do be careful in those kinds of environments. Those munitions lying around, while old, doesn't make them any less dangerous, in fact more so. The worst is what you don't see. I remember the warning signs everywhere when I visited Verdun in France.
Appreciate you sharing this, but it's not worth getting killed or injured over. Stay safe.
Schone23666 11 months ago
@Schone23666 Thanks Schone. Being careful is always good advice around here. I know how to stay safe around the ones that you can see but, as you mentioned, the ones buried just below the surface are the dangerous ones.
SaipanPictures 11 months ago
@SaipanPictures did the americans and japanese have similar designed grenades or were they just opposite?
TheForever121 1 year ago
@TheForever121 The two grenades are completely different. The American grenade is nicknamed a pineapple because it looks like a smaller version. The Japanese grenade looks like a tin can with a round thing sticking out of one end.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
@SaipanPictures dident see ur coment before i wrigte i new one sry, nevermiend this last comets
SweStuff94 11 months ago
@TheForever121 It's important to note the Japanese grenades apparently had a habit for being finicky. To operate a Japanese grenade, one had to typically pull the safety pin, then strike the fuse itself against a hard surface like a rock or helmet, then throw. Problem was, the fuses weren't always reliable as they used a not-so-reliable spring and could in some cases prematurely detonate! =O
Schone23666 11 months ago
@Schone23666 thats bull. give me a ling that says that!
SweStuff94 11 months ago
@Schone23666 Well production really went badly for the Japanese towards the end as the Americans targeted them where it hurts. So they had to use inferior materials and poor workmanship as the war progressed. Having said that, IJA army equipment was infamous for its shoddy construction. Most of its resources went towards its navy and air-force rather than the land army.
romanlegions 2 weeks ago
@romanlegions Very true. Another factor that apparently didn't help the Japanese was that many of their small arms designs were not very well thought out and apparently had mixed results in the field (this isn't to say they were all failures). Although it would make sense that resources would be allocated toward the Navy and Air Force, you still need well armed and well trained troops to hold the ground obviously, or islands in this case.
Schone23666 2 weeks ago
@Schone23666 IJA equipment bordered on the obsolete with many firearms and artillery were produced during the Russo-Japanese war at the dawn of the 20th Century! The resources in-fighting didn't help either with its many different branches of the military fighting for resources. Despite such material deficiency, they managed to hold on and fight for every inch of land they occupied.
romanlegions 2 weeks ago
Excellent find!
99redrain 1 year ago
@99redrain Thanks.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
Cool Video Thanks for Posting. Did you find any weapons, ammo or gear like Helmets in that cave, other than Grenades? I wonder if the Japanese Military gave the Civilians Grenades to commit suicide with? The Japanese Military Leaders in Tokyo told Civilians that the US GI's would rape then kill the females & eat the kids. Told them they would join a higher caste in death by suicide. After war they denied that ever said that. No War Crimes there? How sad. What do the Memorials on Saipan say?
ClarenceBoddicker87 1 year ago
@ClarenceBoddicker87 Thanks Clarence. I didn't find any other military artifacts in this cave. There may have been only one or two Japanese military in this cave and the rest could have been civilians. The memorials here are mostly from the modern Japanese so, as you could guess, nothing negative is mentioned.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
Thank you for bravely entering these caves to provide this footage, very interesting.
whoisjmac 1 year ago
@whoisjmac Thanks Jay. I enjoy exploring caves.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
How did you get authorization to enter that cave??
clprsn1 1 year ago
@clprsn1 None needed.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
you werent allowed to keep anything?
marines16301 1 year ago
@marines16301 I take only pictures, leave only sweat and blood.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago 5
@SaipanPictures Thanks to your kind of people,i have the chance to see these relics in their original place.Thank you for this.
IsengardMordor 3 weeks ago
@IsengardMordor Thanks IsengardMordor.
SaipanPictures 3 weeks ago
Is that on Iwojima or okinawa?
Drakka100 1 year ago
@Drakka100 Neither. This is Saipan.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
@SaipanPictures LOL i just heard the video say saipan just as i wrote the comment, i thought i had deleted it
Drakka100 1 year ago
wow!
are you the first person in there since ww2?
MAKER6450 1 year ago
@MAKER6450 Hi Maker6450, Normally I often see evidence of someone having been places before me but not this cave. Given its location, there is a good chance that very few people, if any, have been there since WWII.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
Hi, good seeing your video today. T.
Chester2929 1 year ago
@Chester2929 Thanks Chester.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
Hi Eric,I love watching your vids,to be honest Ive missed them over the last few weeks,,so its great to have you back posting them.However I must say-I think you do them with a great dignity and quietness.I watched this vid and it really hit home that these were real people real lives(something I must admit I forget sometimes when doing research)The tank battle vid was excellent and this is just as good.Thanks Eric,,keep posting,,but never change your style.Kindest regards Graham
urchin76 1 year ago
@urchin76 Thanks Graham, you are very kind. Every once in a while I find something that makes me stop to think, like a baby's shoe. Japanese soldiers were not the only ones in these caves. The soldiers took charge of the Japanese civilians on island and led them to the caves of Saipan and, towards the end of the battle, the Japanese soldiers committed mass murders.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
Keep a eye out for Japanese dog tag's they look like this.
diggerhistory(DOT)info/images/uniforms5/jap-tag-ww2(DOT)jpg
MilesAtSea 1 year ago
@MilesAtSea That would be a great find. I'm not sure if the tin would survive 66 years in the damp, salty air of the caves. Although I heard one was found on the beach years back and they were able to track down and give it back to its owner still alive in Japan. He was one of the very few Japanese to surrender.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
@SaipanPictures Not made of tin the original Japanese dog tag where made of a type of brass some of which mined in China was vary corrosion resistant with a high zinc alloys.
MilesAtSea 1 year ago
@MilesAtSea That should survive but probably buried under a thin layer of dirt. I try not to do any digging anywhere in Saipan. You will find something but probably a bomb or hand grenade.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
@SaipanPictures That's true about digging that should be left up to archaeologists.
MilesAtSea 1 year ago
@MilesAtSea and uxo experts.
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
@MilesAtSea There were a few made out of wood or bamboo actually, perhaps the units that could not acquire the standard issue ones?
romanlegions 2 weeks ago
@MilesAtSea Found one. Actually my friend found it in his backyard but he let me keep it for awhile to do some research on it:
flickr.com/photos/saipanpictures/5050072663
SaipanPictures 1 year ago
@SaipanPictures That's a Good one look around some more over were it was found there maybe more,...
MilesAtSea 1 year ago
@SaipanPictures I heard that some times they would put in a stack 1 of the 2 Dog Tags before doing a suicidal banzai charge on a make shift Shinto Shrine (the state religion at the time) in the shape of a cuboid or rectangular rock for a altar-like structure as if it was an Offering (as in offering them self as soldiers to die for the Emperor) I would say look for Saki and Beer bottles around the area the dog tags where found.
MilesAtSea 1 year ago