I have noticed that many of the lake boats look rusty and otherwise unkempt compared to sea going ships. Is it just that they tend to have longer service lives or is there just not enough profit to keep them well maintained? This is not a criticism, only an observation.
I work on the river & not enough horsepower is a common enough complaint from captains & pilots.3300hp used to be a big towboat but now 10500 bhp boats are running on the Lower Mississippi while the 3000s go on the Upper & Ohio Rivers.
The Calumet. That reminds me of the Calumet harbor near Chicago. What ever happened to that? How come it never panned out like they thought it would? Chicago is America's second city, you would think that the Calumet harbor would have been nearly as busy as Long Beach or Oakland...whatever. The slips are still visible in Google Earth.
Well,geographically the great lakes are somewhat "smacked" between cold front of the north and warm front of Gulf of Mexico....it gives mother nature very nasty mood swings...pitch and roll,bob and weave from all directions.Extremely unpredictable!!!!
Actually I have heard stories of guys turning down jobs that bring them on the lakes because they think these lakes are graveyards... over 6,000 wrecks out here and counting.
Damn, that's alot of wrecks! The Great Lakes have some really volatile weather patterns, not to mention magnetic anomalies that can screw with your compass(Marysburgh Vortex anyone?).
@greenbeld Have you ever been out on any of the Great Lakes during a real storm? It can be quite a very harrowing experience! I'm sad they killed off the Fast Ferry between Rochester, NY, & Toronto, CA. That was a great idea, very fun experience too:)
@greenbeld Have you ever been out on any of the Great Lakes during a real storm? It can be quite a very harrowing experience! I'm sad they killed off the Fast Ferry between Rochester, NY, & Toronto, CA. That was a great idea, very fun experience too:)
it is to bad the calumet was cut up in 2007 it is sad to see this classic laker go she had been on the lakes sinces 1929 great video i hope this summer to get a job with interlake steamship but with the econmey the way it is i do not think that is going to happen
LOL Interlake might not be looking for OS's but Grand River Navigation is in the Aggregates trade and we'll be working steady... hell and you get to sail on such museum pieces as our ships too.
LOL thats our stack symbol... I thought the same thing the first time I saw it... infact I think I asked about it when I got onboard... I never got an answer... no one really knows why it resembles the Sports team logo so much.
Love the old lakers. My dad's step father captained two of these great workhorses. The Diamond Alkali and apparently was the first Captain of the John J. Boland(now the Saginaw). I've tried finding more stories about him, but have had little luck on it or the Alkali
Wow, I would kill to get great footage like that. My grandpa used to be a crew member of a freightor, and I must say, I'm very proud of that. But freightors are a great part of Michigan's history and I love them to death. I have alot of fond memories of my grandpa taking me out on his motor boat out and riding along side freightors when they'd pass through the channel in his back yard. I hope you have a good season and have a safe journey. :)
All the time, Call the Coast Guard regional exam center in Toledo Ohio and tell them you want to work on the Lakers, they will tell you what you need to do. Then you just call up a company, tell em your ready to go and Most times they'll get you to a boat in no time.
Living on a ship and working more than 10 hours a day seven days a week isnt the life for everyone. But it pays well, and you can leave it any time you like. Its a living not for everyone.
I did 12 hour nights in a bread factory for a few months and grew to like it because of the messin' about. It taught me one thing: workers only swear at you if they like you. We all swore at each other like f**k all night long. Comradeship which you never get working in an office.
That's the life for me, I'm working on the boats when I get outta high school. I know one of the navigation officers. Knowing I will probably be a deck hand, how much is the average pay? (want to save up a lot for college.)
Yeah, the anchor windlass, cabin heat, and the Morring Winches are all steam powered. Though the ship is diesel propulsion, the ER keeps at least 1 boiler going for the heat, and the deck equipment.
Thats called the unloading boom, its a long conveyor belt. We swing the whole thing off to the side and dumo our cargo in a big pile. Its kind of a unique to the great lakes, though Im sure there are some bulkers like this on the oceans too.
Yeah, we passed her shuttered up at Port Colborne on Christmas Eve this year comming out of the welland, don't know if they are really going to scrap her or turn her into a ITB or something.
whats an itb and whats it like going thru the eisenhower locks i saw the calumet go thru em once i live right on the water in massena see em all the time ya no
ITB is an integrated tug and barge system... you take an old ship... cut off the engine room and make a Notch for a Tugboat to fit semi permanantly into... the tugboat replaces the Engine Room and gets completely different Coast Guard Regulations, which are less stringent... hence its cheaper for the company to operate the same ship as an ITB rather than as a Ship.
My name is Keith and i work as a welder for GreatLakesTowing in cleveland and i did alot of repair work on this ship at the time this video was made it was in need of a paint job but it has been painted since then and sent back to canada for a complete makeover.If you need any type welding or ship repair give me a call at (440)339-6477 i have my own mobile welding service.
lol, ya, but shes nothing compared to what else is out there, the calumet is what a little over 500feet, i remember seeing the mesabi miner, columbia star, and oglebay norton, at 1000ft
Both these boats were in Fairport last night! Combined age: 156! Calumet unloaded and did a 180 in the turning basin before passing Maumee. Calumet tied up across from the salt mine to wait for wind, Maumee then moved up to the upper Osborne dock.
Self unloader, i was engineering cadet on an ice breaker and we had to get more than one ship out of the ice
Airsoftmasterking 6 months ago
I have noticed that many of the lake boats look rusty and otherwise unkempt compared to sea going ships. Is it just that they tend to have longer service lives or is there just not enough profit to keep them well maintained? This is not a criticism, only an observation.
scotty2307 7 months ago
I work on the river & not enough horsepower is a common enough complaint from captains & pilots.3300hp used to be a big towboat but now 10500 bhp boats are running on the Lower Mississippi while the 3000s go on the Upper & Ohio Rivers.
doughesson 10 months ago
how many gross tons of calumet? im sure its pretty big.
kalbokanamaneh 11 months ago
The Calumet. That reminds me of the Calumet harbor near Chicago. What ever happened to that? How come it never panned out like they thought it would? Chicago is America's second city, you would think that the Calumet harbor would have been nearly as busy as Long Beach or Oakland...whatever. The slips are still visible in Google Earth.
JetMechMA 11 months ago
ive guarded that ship before. if i can ask, what did u have to do to get a job on the maumee?
jbb621 1 year ago
RIP S.S. Calumet 1929-2009
Sarge679 1 year ago
what is the ship that you are filming from?
hardcore572 1 year ago
Not the best bow shape for icebreaking...
tupsumato 1 year ago
that old boat is so messed up
BrothersFreedive 1 year ago
How old is she ? - 75 years ?
Flatpro01 1 year ago
@Flatpro01 Launched June 22, 1929 that would make her 81 years old next month.
GreatLakesShips 1 year ago
this is quite an old ship..bulk carrier or general cargo?
posro1988 1 year ago
@posro1988
Bulker...
3mate1 1 year ago
@3mate1 1988? bloody hell shes looks as if she from 1948?
joelang6126 1 year ago
@posro1988 Calumet was sent to scrap last year. She was the second or third oldest boat on the lakes.
cardwellave 1 year ago
its a shame that they decided to scrap her. she was my favorite ship.
20xwolves 1 year ago
@20xwolves I never got to see her before she was scrapped :(
But Lower Lakes still has alot of nice old ships like the Maumee.
GreatLakesShips 1 year ago
I can See my House!!! lol
CanadianWorkDivers 1 year ago
Well,geographically the great lakes are somewhat "smacked" between cold front of the north and warm front of Gulf of Mexico....it gives mother nature very nasty mood swings...pitch and roll,bob and weave from all directions.Extremely unpredictable!!!!
lpv1899 2 years ago
Few people know that the Great Lakes can be just as treacherous as the open ocean!
loveunderlaw 2 years ago 8
Actually I have heard stories of guys turning down jobs that bring them on the lakes because they think these lakes are graveyards... over 6,000 wrecks out here and counting.
3mate1 2 years ago 6
Damn, that's alot of wrecks! The Great Lakes have some really volatile weather patterns, not to mention magnetic anomalies that can screw with your compass(Marysburgh Vortex anyone?).
loveunderlaw 2 years ago
@loveunderlaw I for one know, just because im from ss marie and know some people who sail. Thanks for posting this...
greenbeld 10 months ago
@greenbeld Have you ever been out on any of the Great Lakes during a real storm? It can be quite a very harrowing experience! I'm sad they killed off the Fast Ferry between Rochester, NY, & Toronto, CA. That was a great idea, very fun experience too:)
loveunderlaw 10 months ago
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@greenbeld Have you ever been out on any of the Great Lakes during a real storm? It can be quite a very harrowing experience! I'm sad they killed off the Fast Ferry between Rochester, NY, & Toronto, CA. That was a great idea, very fun experience too:)
loveunderlaw 10 months ago
Not much left of her in Port Colbourne... just the forward Hull and the hopper house... by now, who knows.
3mate1 2 years ago
Thats What Sisters Do
grtshearwater 2 years ago
I saw the Donner, now a barge or some such at a Marinette, Wisconsin boat yard.
granskare 2 years ago
You guys who sail those waters have balls of steel Im a Navy man and I swear I hope I never have to sail that Great Vid!! :)
BattleBornJackalope 2 years ago
Out of all the classic Grand River Navigation boats , my favorites are the Ojibway and the Saginaw
GreatLakesShips 2 years ago
very nice passing shot. Thanks for posting it.
spear913 2 years ago 2
it's sad that the calumet is in the bone yard
Deadq 2 years ago 2
yeal they should scrap the saginaw too!
1989fordf250351w 2 years ago
We just Repowered the Saginaw in the winter of 07-08. She is a brand new ship compared to the GRN vessels.
3mate1 2 years ago
i welded some fuel pipes on to her up in sarnia , big mess when she was ripped apart, and cold as a witches it that year, good luck to her
florian221 2 years ago
it is to bad the calumet was cut up in 2007 it is sad to see this classic laker go she had been on the lakes sinces 1929 great video i hope this summer to get a job with interlake steamship but with the econmey the way it is i do not think that is going to happen
araka08 2 years ago
LOL Interlake might not be looking for OS's but Grand River Navigation is in the Aggregates trade and we'll be working steady... hell and you get to sail on such museum pieces as our ships too.
3mate1 2 years ago
Wow! Suicide is a viable option.
onebaud 2 years ago
What a long ship! Like space balls.
petkovmarin 2 years ago
thats what she said...
Cobra0911 2 years ago
Id rather have the Winnebego.
3mate1 2 years ago
Hello, I have some questions if you don't mind.
1. If the Calumet stopped would she get stuck too?
2. How thick is the ice, and what month is it?
3. Why/how did the Maumee stop/get stuck?
4. How many passes did it take to break up enough ice to get the Maumee going again.
5. How big is the turning radius, in that ice, for the Calumet, and how long did it take for each pass?
Thanks for the trouble, great video!
ussrichardebyrd 3 years ago 9
It was only one pass, as she was headed passed us anyways on her way to South East Shoal Passage...
The Ice was about half foot to 1 foot brash but was packed in by heavy winds for 2days so the water was like a thick slushy by this time.
The Maumee only has 3300HP we were stopped by a windrow(pressure ridge/s)
Id have to look up the advance and transfer data on the Calumets bridge to tell you that info... but since the Cal was scrapped thats impossible now.
Sorry its late
3mate1 2 years ago
they blazed a trail for u
arequipa1 3 years ago
I had a friend who was a radioman on an oreboat...long time ago. This is a super video, all I have is pictures in a slide show so this is tops :)
granskare 3 years ago
I have seen the sea like that back home in Sweden.. many years ago, before the onset of milder winters.. :)
BasicModelling 3 years ago
hahaha, love the Chicago Blackhawks logo at 1:26
HazeGreyAndUnderway 3 years ago
LOL thats our stack symbol... I thought the same thing the first time I saw it... infact I think I asked about it when I got onboard... I never got an answer... no one really knows why it resembles the Sports team logo so much.
3mate1 2 years ago
Love the old lakers. My dad's step father captained two of these great workhorses. The Diamond Alkali and apparently was the first Captain of the John J. Boland(now the Saginaw). I've tried finding more stories about him, but have had little luck on it or the Alkali
HowlerTwoSeven 3 years ago 2
Wow, I would kill to get great footage like that. My grandpa used to be a crew member of a freightor, and I must say, I'm very proud of that. But freightors are a great part of Michigan's history and I love them to death. I have alot of fond memories of my grandpa taking me out on his motor boat out and riding along side freightors when they'd pass through the channel in his back yard. I hope you have a good season and have a safe journey. :)
ZeroGal5 3 years ago
so which of Lower Lakes ore boats were you on?
Fozzymaple 3 years ago
This Video was taken from the Bridge wing of the Maumee while I was on watch.
3mate1 2 years ago
looks like the Edmund Fitzgerald, they better watch out!
mustang1298 3 years ago
That's some amazing footage.
whh01 3 years ago 2
Something rather special about these old ladies of the lakes. Thanks for the video, a reminder of times past still around.
landyman110 4 years ago 2
i saw her docked up i think in sarnia im wondering if they are going to scrap this ship let me know if they are thnx oh what ship are you on?
fallingup7 4 years ago
You may have seen the Saginaw. The Calumet is still sitting in Port Colborne, Ont. Cold and alone, waiting for her fate.
3mate1 4 years ago
i want to get a job on a laker. is it difficult? how often do they hire?
detroitsports77 3 years ago
All the time, Call the Coast Guard regional exam center in Toledo Ohio and tell them you want to work on the Lakers, they will tell you what you need to do. Then you just call up a company, tell em your ready to go and Most times they'll get you to a boat in no time.
3mate1 3 years ago
high employee turnover rate i take it?
detroitsports77 3 years ago
Living on a ship and working more than 10 hours a day seven days a week isnt the life for everyone. But it pays well, and you can leave it any time you like. Its a living not for everyone.
3mate1 3 years ago
What role does such a person have on the ship? Deckhand I would assume?
laconicdos 3 years ago
I did 12 hour nights in a bread factory for a few months and grew to like it because of the messin' about. It taught me one thing: workers only swear at you if they like you. We all swore at each other like f**k all night long. Comradeship which you never get working in an office.
SteffanLlwyd 3 years ago
That's the life for me, I'm working on the boats when I get outta high school. I know one of the navigation officers. Knowing I will probably be a deck hand, how much is the average pay? (want to save up a lot for college.)
MostlyPoliticalStuff 3 years ago
Didn't the calumet hit a wall or somethin this past Novemeber? Kinda sad, I saw it 3 or 4 times a summer in Marquette since I've lived here.
MostlyPoliticalStuff 3 years ago
Now they are starting to scrap the ship. That's very sad.
LNERMallard 3 years ago
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Ugly crap!!!
preb76 4 years ago
its a boat that hauls iron ore, whaddya expect? the QM2???? lol!
detroitsports77 3 years ago
I wonder what that steam coming off the side of the ship is from? Some kind of vent?
ragemanchoo82 4 years ago
Yeah, the anchor windlass, cabin heat, and the Morring Winches are all steam powered. Though the ship is diesel propulsion, the ER keeps at least 1 boiler going for the heat, and the deck equipment.
3mate1 4 years ago
It looks like its carrying a huge crane
ragemanchoo82 4 years ago
Thats called the unloading boom, its a long conveyor belt. We swing the whole thing off to the side and dumo our cargo in a big pile. Its kind of a unique to the great lakes, though Im sure there are some bulkers like this on the oceans too.
3mate1 4 years ago
Sad...she's being converted to razor blades now.
choirboyfromhell 4 years ago
Yeah, we passed her shuttered up at Port Colborne on Christmas Eve this year comming out of the welland, don't know if they are really going to scrap her or turn her into a ITB or something.
3mate1 4 years ago
whats an itb and whats it like going thru the eisenhower locks i saw the calumet go thru em once i live right on the water in massena see em all the time ya no
pengapop12 3 years ago
ITB is an integrated tug and barge system... you take an old ship... cut off the engine room and make a Notch for a Tugboat to fit semi permanantly into... the tugboat replaces the Engine Room and gets completely different Coast Guard Regulations, which are less stringent... hence its cheaper for the company to operate the same ship as an ITB rather than as a Ship.
3mate1 2 years ago
im surprised the props didnt get sheared off
xxStratxx69 4 years ago
Nice...Very nice.5*
Billybreezerboy 4 years ago
Nice Vid !
I take it you were on the Maumee ?
We get the Maumee and Calumet in offen where I work in burns harbor Indiana
UltraXryder 4 years ago
My name is Keith and i work as a welder for GreatLakesTowing in cleveland and i did alot of repair work on this ship at the time this video was made it was in need of a paint job but it has been painted since then and sent back to canada for a complete makeover.If you need any type welding or ship repair give me a call at (440)339-6477 i have my own mobile welding service.
kaybee808 4 years ago
I never saw that ship in Lake Superior but it sure is old. Nice video.
granskare 4 years ago
Hey Great comments guys thanks!!!
3mate1 4 years ago
lol that boat is so long it's like a Naked Gun joke.
poochengeez 4 years ago
lol, ya, but shes nothing compared to what else is out there, the calumet is what a little over 500feet, i remember seeing the mesabi miner, columbia star, and oglebay norton, at 1000ft
flargmuffin92 4 years ago
what? no salute? not even some deckhands mooning?? probably too cold.
dave0549jv 4 years ago
awesome !!! give it 5stars and 2thumbs up
gaae2000 4 years ago
Both these boats were in Fairport last night! Combined age: 156! Calumet unloaded and did a 180 in the turning basin before passing Maumee. Calumet tied up across from the salt mine to wait for wind, Maumee then moved up to the upper Osborne dock.
wurlitzer153duplex 4 years ago
Sure was
3mate1 4 years ago
Nice view of favorite boat! Which boat was this taken from, Maumee by any chance?
wurlitzer153duplex 4 years ago
thats a old lady
ettanpower 5 years ago
That must be the coldest looking videos on this website. Brrrrrrrrrrr!
gleberd 5 years ago
That was cool !!!
tomkat1983 5 years ago