@Xenitic use a closed hat and a snare with short decay and release lower them down in the mix and put them on the offbeats as ghost notes, it takes a bit of practice but you'll get there. dont go over the top with shuffle though.
Is there a website that shows you where all the difrent sounds should sit in the spectrum ? as this is the only bit that fucks me over when doing anything. Cheerz
@alexxj220 Hey ... I've been researching this and it depends on weather u'r doing drum and bass or dubstep or house or watever but I found that just googling the genre and frequencies really helps!
@kapowrah yeh they put drums/snares/hi-hats etc. on 1 layer each probz to make it look 'better' but in theory you can put all your drums in one lane but it can get a bit messy
@FuzionDubstep Depends if you want to side chain or add seperate effects to different drums really, i make my beats in one bar then duplicate it and split it into seperate layers
Wanna get some shuffle? It's easy, get yur hi-hats on all the odd 16ths (1/16, 3/16 etc), and gat the same hi-hat sound but lower in volume (and maybe pitched up a little) on all the even 16ths.
Try getting 2 cymbal sounds in as well; one with a release and one that closes quickly. (E.g. release cymbal on 3/16, closed cymbal on 13/16.)
And you can use that information to seperate the frequencies better by using eq, compressor, gate and carefully selecting your sounds. Also try and use the time dimension to seperate sounds by introducing pauses in the melody and seperating multiple melody lines. These are some of the techniques you can learn by studying mixing.
Does anyone know any good download sites to get rock breaks to make the splash. It seems there the hardest to find. If you could help me you'd be doing me a huge favor. Cheers guys, JB
You can get a great drum sampler call drum kits from hell and make your own rock beats (very easy), Even blast beats like Anaal Nathrakh are possible and sound organic
Yea they could get a virus or something might crash. Mac's don't get viruses or crash. They should have make this whole track in garageband and exported to itunes.
logic isn't bad. the only reason I have it on my comp is coz my lecturer wont take any work on ANYTHING else. Cubase is cool and pro tools is the fuckin nuts.. logic is the only one that isn't really a professional audio DAW. You wouldn't find it in real studio
mmm i disaggree. ive had sessions at a couple os studios that use logic. pro tools is definately the majority, of course.
used to see cubase alot in colleges n such. havnt seen much in studios. maybe cubase is favoured by the electronic musicians - ive done mostly acoustic work.
i mean, anyone can use an effect. but composing it and arranging it into something creative and mind blowing isnt something everyone does, evidently :S
I've seen all of these tutorials now and it just makes me realize how unimaginative and boring d'n'b production is. Im not pidgeon-holing the genre in any way, and I know there are more creative artists out there (SPOR), but all of these d'n'b guys do exactly the same thing. I think the best one of these 'production masterclass' vids has to be the young punx. He really knows his shit.
dude this is just an toturial! They not showing of their skills, they not my idols, but they can make music :p Im 16 and I know electronic music better then you think, jackass :p hah
mate you've just made yourself look like a complete ignorant prick for saying that. So you think the only 'good' music is what is complicated and makes money? What exactly qualifies you to judge somebody else's taste in music? They make music that peopole go out and have a good time listening to, I bet you can't do that. I'm studying for a music degree, and I can make shit as complex as you like, doesn't mean it's good. That's just ignorant
well thats just stupid. lots of awesome musicians and artists make money too. music can be over complicated, like avante-gard jazz, and sound shit! drum and bass isn't always simple either, drum and bass can be as complex as african drumming, which you'd learn about if you knew about music. Try listening to Music Club by these guys... they know how to make a tune
Im not gona get into any arguments, stating my opinion because i couldnt put up with reading anymore of your bullshit jargon... 'you dont even hearda burta shmurta internal reflection'... you FUCKKIN IDIOT!!!!!
Go listen to some other music. theres no room for fanny holes like you in the dnb scene.. some advice go read a book, educate yourself and maybe write your shit opinions down in that.. coz know one wants to hear them...
If anyone has worked out or knows what that spectro analyzer is called tell me. thx! leave a link were to find it.. realy appreciate it if anyone can tell me thx.
reason is best for dub and drum and bass .. i use fl but ull need to do alot of work to make pro sounds.. i got a sik libary nd found a couple of pro kicks takes bare resurch most of the shit is wak nd all the sounds in fl are wak.. PRPELERHEAD REASON i think there using cubase not sure
Excellent work guys, cheers! :-)
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mcvisaje 5 months ago
haha you can't polish a... you know
matthughes65 7 months ago 4
how do you make a good sounding shuffle without making it sound like a machine gun?
Xenitic 9 months ago
@Xenitic use a closed hat and a snare with short decay and release lower them down in the mix and put them on the offbeats as ghost notes, it takes a bit of practice but you'll get there. dont go over the top with shuffle though.
proximityeffect1 8 months ago
@Xenitic u can also use an offbeat delay
Hiatus38 8 months ago
mystery ofa good beat, in EQ, velocity, and compression
wtfkarWill69 10 months ago
what is it?? Logic pro 9 ???
wtfkarWill69 10 months ago
@wtfkarWill69 Nahh it's on PC.. looks like cubase 3 but can't be 100% sure.
MagicalMelan 10 months ago
@MagicalMelan thx for reply
wtfkarWill69 10 months ago
@wtfkarWill69 cubase 5 or 3sx
Xenitic 9 months ago
what softWare?
wtfkarWill69 10 months ago
bareeee leeeeeen
Ryan963 11 months ago
Is there a website that shows you where all the difrent sounds should sit in the spectrum ? as this is the only bit that fucks me over when doing anything. Cheerz
alexxj220 11 months ago
@alexxj220 Hey ... I've been researching this and it depends on weather u'r doing drum and bass or dubstep or house or watever but I found that just googling the genre and frequencies really helps!
Insurgemusic 9 months ago
Chap on the right looks baked
djkestrel 11 months ago 3
@djkestrel i was about to put a comment meself haha he looks like he's been blazing up to fuck
TopTuneMelody 11 months ago
These guys crank out some fat tunes... MAD RESPECT!
HDiGITTY 1 year ago
where do they or in general anyone get good drum samples and not the crappy presets you get with most software???
lancsno1 1 year ago
@lancsno1 You buy a sample cd, or you sample it yourself
mephisto40 1 year ago
I bet this setup is ancient compared to their studio now
lancsno1 1 year ago
WHAT IS THAT SPECTRUM ANALYZER
jaykeone 1 year ago
@jaykeone I spent ages trying to get it... in the end i decided to use blue cat's freq analyser. It does the job fine!
stoph2 1 year ago
@jaykeone inspector xl, god aspire85 has already told ya
proximityeffect1 1 year ago
@jaykeone RNDigital Inspector XL, I agree its the best analyser there is :D
nodlezfodlez 6 months ago
what is that spectrum anylyzer?!?!?!
jaykeone 1 year ago
@jaykeone inspectorXL I think mate.. or somethin along those lines..
Aspire85 1 year ago
I wait for the day that oldskool breaks are never used for any reason at all.
ChewySatisfaction 1 year ago
what keyboard is that? so many pros use it
saronrock 1 year ago
@saronrock Some M-Audio Keystation I reckon
suppenhahn 1 year ago
@suppenhahn I thought it was that aswell. But i dont think keystation has that little blue lit up thing on the left bit above the pitchbend control.
saronrock 1 year ago
@suppenhahn no worries. I actually found out its the Evolution MK 249 or something. Looks a lot like a keystation though.
saronrock 1 year ago
Sporadic bizness!
ruffneckdj 1 year ago
Sporadic!
maccagrabme 1 year ago
10 layers of drums. wow! mine have about 3 lol
kapowrah 1 year ago
@kapowrah yeh they put drums/snares/hi-hats etc. on 1 layer each probz to make it look 'better' but in theory you can put all your drums in one lane but it can get a bit messy
FuzionDubstep 1 year ago
@FuzionDubstep Depends if you want to side chain or add seperate effects to different drums really, i make my beats in one bar then duplicate it and split it into seperate layers
StoobieM 1 year ago
They both look so stoned lol. N WTF is up with the cameraman? On EVERY CM video ive ever watched he is bloody awful.
AdamC316 1 year ago
what software is that? sorry, i'm really horrible with determining which software is being used.
threecheerer 1 year ago
@threecheerer cubase mate
SplashDubstep 1 year ago
@threecheerer cubase buts its an older version, 3 i think
jimrod93 1 year ago
I cannot seem to mix my drums well, or at least get a decent snare!!!
Drum1203 1 year ago
camera mans drunk
tnwellian 1 year ago 40
@tnwellian I think hes drunk in every Computer Music Vid LOL!
TYRONEBIGGLES 1 year ago
@tnwellian :D:DD::D:D
wtfkarWill69 10 months ago
@tnwellian and the guy on the right is stoned
TehSaone 9 months ago 4
@TehSaone I thought the same lol
harrison210993 7 months ago
the frequency anylizer is essentially backup for your ears eh! never thought of using one to be honest. if i learn nothing else, i will use that.
dthomson80 1 year ago
what are they using? ableton, sony acid? im sure its not fl studio or logic thanks
SearchInSun 1 year ago
@SearchInSun CUBASE for shure
HorNet505 1 year ago
mean thanks guys, do you work on all your beats together, or work at separate stations?
DJmaoriDMW 1 year ago
Wanna get some shuffle? It's easy, get yur hi-hats on all the odd 16ths (1/16, 3/16 etc), and gat the same hi-hat sound but lower in volume (and maybe pitched up a little) on all the even 16ths.
Try getting 2 cymbal sounds in as well; one with a release and one that closes quickly. (E.g. release cymbal on 3/16, closed cymbal on 13/16.)
Ciaran55 1 year ago 2
which frequency analyser do they use? you can see it at 1.35 min....but which one is it...my freq analyer is shit..need this one, too....thanx
clan232323 2 years ago
they are using Elemental Audio Inspector XL
TysonWillert 2 years ago 2
what does a frequency analyser do?
obviously it analyses frequencies, but what difference does it make?
cheeers
Jimmmeeehhh 1 year ago
@Jimmmeeehhh it doesnt make a difference to the sound it tells you the volume of each frequecy
ian7410 1 year ago
And you can use that information to seperate the frequencies better by using eq, compressor, gate and carefully selecting your sounds. Also try and use the time dimension to seperate sounds by introducing pauses in the melody and seperating multiple melody lines. These are some of the techniques you can learn by studying mixing.
mupersan82 1 year ago
@clan232323 there is a nice freeware analyzer called SPAN from VOXENGO
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EarjaxProductions 4 months ago
@EarjaxProductions SPAN is an analizer. Elephant is a compressor/Mastering Plugin. big difference. I am not shure why you drop that in ;o)
HorNet505 4 months ago
If you guys want to learn something, watch "Nathan Fake Masterclass"
they do a track in 45 minutes with creating nothing
pure shit.
module61 2 years ago
anyone know what monitors they're using?
skittb89 2 years ago
mackie mr8 monitors
diderkamal1 2 years ago 3
Speedy delivery!
NicenEasyuk 2 years ago
@diderkamal1
those are not MR8s those are Mackie HR824 MK2
TheLunat1k 1 year ago
@diderkamal1
HR824's mk11 actually
Kurn1983 1 year ago
@diderkamal1
HR824's mk11 actually
Kurn1983 1 year ago 2
What program is that? I'd really like to know because I can't see its name anywhere on the screen
TheAngel105 2 years ago
cubase
diderkamal1 2 years ago
i know a geezer that uses logic in his studio. and he does voiceovers for tv and that.
BerzerkMC 2 years ago
Does anyone know any good download sites to get rock breaks to make the splash. It seems there the hardest to find. If you could help me you'd be doing me a huge favor. Cheers guys, JB
THEJBUK 2 years ago
You can get a great drum sampler call drum kits from hell and make your own rock beats (very easy), Even blast beats like Anaal Nathrakh are possible and sound organic
Grahamintehpond 2 years ago
just find any live drum break sample will give you that splash sound you're after.
boldswede 2 years ago
Where abouts??
gonzojournals 2 years ago
@ JB you should look at a plugin called addictive drums, you can program the beats yourself but it comes with grooves and sounds very real
krusha666 2 years ago
You can't polish a what? :F
SaulGilsenan 2 years ago
why on earth are they using windows?! buy a mac lads...
nuttysolos 2 years ago
Yea they could get a virus or something might crash. Mac's don't get viruses or crash. They should have make this whole track in garageband and exported to itunes.
UrbanCrunkMovement 2 years ago
garageband?! bit schoolboy. cubase is okay. logic is really good - what i use.. protools is king.
nuttysolos 2 years ago
Everything I said was sarcasm. I don't expect someone making statements like 'protools is king' to understand that.
UrbanCrunkMovement 2 years ago 2
ahaha im not joining in your youtube abuse bollocks. whatever man.
nuttysolos 2 years ago
protools is probably the best DAW going. Logic isn't really very serious. Cubase is alright too
stoph2 2 years ago
logic isn't bad. the only reason I have it on my comp is coz my lecturer wont take any work on ANYTHING else. Cubase is cool and pro tools is the fuckin nuts.. logic is the only one that isn't really a professional audio DAW. You wouldn't find it in real studio
stoph2 2 years ago
mmm i disaggree. ive had sessions at a couple os studios that use logic. pro tools is definately the majority, of course.
used to see cubase alot in colleges n such. havnt seen much in studios. maybe cubase is favoured by the electronic musicians - ive done mostly acoustic work.
nuttysolos 2 years ago
they do, its just very uncommon to get a virusfor mac.
MBnjmn 2 years ago
wut software they usin?
riekie14 2 years ago
cubase i think bruv
ih8nico 2 years ago
@riekie14 : Cubase/Kontakt
20Jayman 2 years ago
any one know were i can down load a sectral analyzer as a plug in its not on cubase studio four or if it is i cant find it HELP
djdippa1 2 years ago
Google this: "Voxengo SPAN". It's a good, free spectral analyzer. :)
PuzzleDNB 2 years ago
i think that spectral analyzer is a waves plug in. :-)
red001eye 2 years ago
The Spectrum analyzer they are using here is called "InspectorXL" by RNDigital Labs :)
Elektronik808 2 years ago 2
can I go chase and status university in holland?
velourea 2 years ago
is there any chases n status tutorials on settings for bass and synth sounds??????
matman1985 2 years ago
they need to do a dubstep tutorial mann. they got the hottest wobble sounds n effects
paksallion 2 years ago
lol a dubstep bass is rly easy to make
Garfler 2 years ago
who said it wasnt :P but making a hot ass banger is a different story. end of the day we're not all at chase & status standards lol
paksallion 2 years ago
lol , you can make the same effect with fl love filter :P , but yeah they got nice shit ;O
XxAmirOxX 2 years ago
i mean, anyone can use an effect. but composing it and arranging it into something creative and mind blowing isnt something everyone does, evidently :S
P.S my names Amir too for fooks sake :P
paksallion 2 years ago 3
nice hat
dorito567 2 years ago
what eq are they using to cut the bass?
funghetto86 2 years ago
''Waves'' plug in
patrickwalsh909 2 years ago
cool, cheers!
funghetto86 2 years ago
why are you guys saying dnb HAS to be complicated, it can be the simplest song yet be fucking awsome...
jake824 2 years ago 3
erm what's the name of the software they are using?
IetjeB 2 years ago
"cubase sx" isnt it-hard to see from blurry vid..
they're deffo using waves plugins tho-spot them a mile off
:-)
bigbigsound 2 years ago
okay thanks mate : )
didn't know such artists use programs like this
IetjeB 2 years ago
Cubase SX. But that was then. They are a lot older now. ;-)
TaxmanSwitch 2 years ago
It's called Adobe Photoshop
Good luck.
Bluesage2009 2 years ago 2
Great video, thanks.
NotNotOminous 2 years ago
I've seen all of these tutorials now and it just makes me realize how unimaginative and boring d'n'b production is. Im not pidgeon-holing the genre in any way, and I know there are more creative artists out there (SPOR), but all of these d'n'b guys do exactly the same thing. I think the best one of these 'production masterclass' vids has to be the young punx. He really knows his shit.
clodgemaster 2 years ago
LOL
He's so proud to tell he use no compression and no maximizer.
But he use packs already compressed and maximize, or samples from CD already processed too. Does he realise that ?
There is no work here.
Plus this D and B is too simple.
listen hellfish or anything from Planet µ, and you'll ear what is a real work.
I never heard Chase and status and I'll surely never do.
claim34 2 years ago
dude, you suck donkeyballs
ThehardCoreLover 2 years ago 2
Why ?
are they your idols ?
I Hope not, they do the most simple electronic music ever made. A shame to earn money with that.
But you're probably 17 and don't know what is complicated music. So you're not responsable of your bad taste
claim34 2 years ago
dude this is just an toturial! They not showing of their skills, they not my idols, but they can make music :p Im 16 and I know electronic music better then you think, jackass :p hah
ThehardCoreLover 2 years ago 2
LOL
you don't know what an oscilator or a deesser does
you don't even heard about early reflection
claim34 2 years ago
mate you've just made yourself look like a complete ignorant prick for saying that. So you think the only 'good' music is what is complicated and makes money? What exactly qualifies you to judge somebody else's taste in music? They make music that peopole go out and have a good time listening to, I bet you can't do that. I'm studying for a music degree, and I can make shit as complex as you like, doesn't mean it's good. That's just ignorant
stoph2 2 years ago 3
no, I think the only good music is complicated music and make no money.
D and B is not enough complicated for me except Photek and certain other guy.
paris hilton make people go out too !!!!!!
it's not a proof
Listen Hellfish, and Venetian snare. That is complicated and good music !
:D
claim34 2 years ago
well thats just stupid. lots of awesome musicians and artists make money too. music can be over complicated, like avante-gard jazz, and sound shit! drum and bass isn't always simple either, drum and bass can be as complex as african drumming, which you'd learn about if you knew about music. Try listening to Music Club by these guys... they know how to make a tune
stoph2 2 years ago
LOL
If you think "chase and status" do great music, you definitly don't know nothing about this music, dude.
There is no work compared to milanese or Bogdan Raczynski
This is D'nB for kids.
Try something else, you'll see
bye
claim34 2 years ago
we all like different stuff, keep your opinions to urself
gdydd 2 years ago
D and B is not enough complicated
claim34 2 years ago
and...?
go listen to breakcore or something, this is drum and bass is, get over it. if you want complex dnb then listen to spor or noisia
gdydd 2 years ago 2
I follow your advice :
I'll keep my opinion to myself.
I leave you with "Noisia and spor are complex dnb", you're probably right. ( :D ... LOL ! )
If I want complex music, I'll surely never go to Renegade Hardware !
bye, and thanks for Ae and AFX.
claim34 2 years ago
LOL you're exactly the type of brainless IDM-loving dick lickers that AFX despises.
SaddestSound 2 years ago
LOL
claim34 2 years ago
What the fuck did any of that mean?
MataioNuualiitia 2 years ago
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djMachs 2 years ago
Maybe, that is exactly why they are not putting anymore processes on them then!
You stupid fuck. You stupid, stupid fuck lol.
You can't even write English properly "and I'll surely never do. " Sheaaaaaaaat!
You deserve to feel the pain of a thousand lashes of a wet shoelace on the pee hole.
djMachs 2 years ago
You seem to know nothing about internal mixing LOL
I'm sure you never heard about early reflection too
You're just able to say "fuck".
Can't you speak english "properly"?
claim34 2 years ago
claim34 SHUT the fuck up!
Im not gona get into any arguments, stating my opinion because i couldnt put up with reading anymore of your bullshit jargon... 'you dont even hearda burta shmurta internal reflection'... you FUCKKIN IDIOT!!!!!
Go listen to some other music. theres no room for fanny holes like you in the dnb scene.. some advice go read a book, educate yourself and maybe write your shit opinions down in that.. coz know one wants to hear them...
81NN0 2 years ago 2
im really amateur when it comes to this..but how do they change the sound of the kick drum?
What are they using?
Thanks.
Jimmmeeehhh 2 years ago
Same question... what Analyser?
davincileonard 2 years ago
What spectral analyzer they using?
haloskycrash 2 years ago
What spectral analyzer are they using? Anyone know?
haloskycrash 2 years ago
its the ixl analyser
lobomatt 2 years ago
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are they the actual guys from C&S ?
DJRappidProductions 2 years ago
obviously
DnBBoo 2 years ago 7
one is chase and one is status
TrenosUK 2 years ago 2
Saul (left) is Chase, and Will is Status
dafo93 2 years ago 2
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vcj13 2 years ago
its cubase sx 3 mate
donaldjamesstanley 2 years ago
Thats not reason its Cubase, reason doesnt use audio.
digiphonic 2 years ago
yeh, its cubase, reason looks completly different!! lol
DJRappidProductions 2 years ago
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4:36 Ha! He says rimshots
BreakbeatNightmare 2 years ago
4:46
He says rimshots. Hehe
BreakbeatNightmare 2 years ago
nice sheen.
TheJunglist1986 2 years ago
If anyone has worked out or knows what that spectro analyzer is called tell me. thx! leave a link were to find it.. realy appreciate it if anyone can tell me thx.
samqwerty8938 2 years ago
Inspector XL, on the 1/3 Octave tab.
SaddestSound 2 years ago
wicked vid, thanks for the upload!
roblivious540 2 years ago
edit: scroll a few posts down and read lol someone already asked your question.... and i've answered it again.
joediditagain 2 years ago
looks like cubase sx3
joediditagain 2 years ago
what program do they use to make beats...... ent a vst.. is it :S
donaldjamesstanley 2 years ago
whats the rock break they use?
djdoughboyo 2 years ago
i fink its the break from the start of oasis supersonic..... just as good
donaldjamesstanley 2 years ago
How do you/what programs do you use to make beats from scratch?
QuinnyGoth 2 years ago
reason is best for dub and drum and bass .. i use fl but ull need to do alot of work to make pro sounds.. i got a sik libary nd found a couple of pro kicks takes bare resurch most of the shit is wak nd all the sounds in fl are wak.. PRPELERHEAD REASON i think there using cubase not sure
samqwerty8938 2 years ago
The program and vsts don't matter
its what you do with them that does
and you can use any program for making drum and bass
they're all fundamentally the same
superswanwick 2 years ago 5
what program is that?
charlie2602 2 years ago
Cubase
Grovehomiezz 2 years ago
right, Steinberg Cubase SX 3
OfficeBoy 2 years ago 3
buzz nuts lol good vid tho helped me alot big up man
icole1984 2 years ago
good tutorial; played wkd set at dnb awards a couple weeks ago!
Riddimasta 2 years ago
anyone know what sequencer c&s use?? is it 'reason'??
bowbowyer 2 years ago
That's cubase.
deepfocusdnb 2 years ago 4
hi do you know if that cubase 4 studio
or cubase essential 4?
what do you think would be better for what there doing.
thanks if you know anything.
dubtribalist 2 years ago
Studio, i imagine. I'm more of a Logic/Pro Tools man
deepfocusdnb 2 years ago
thank you appreciate that.
I never had software just hardware,im tired of using that.logic cubase ableton
is what I was looking at.I just got sonar
and I dont like it so I need a better one.thank you.
dubtribalist 2 years ago
buy cubase 5 most updated version.
2ManyNoobs 2 years ago
Cubase
illegalkid2 2 years ago
Anyone know the rock break they use?
velocityj 2 years ago
This tutorial shows the architecture of a break. I would like them to explain more how to analyze the frequencies and to compress them.
PS: The guys are completely stoned, is visible especially in the beginning, big up boys!
iudatune 3 years ago 4
wow 5* true pros :D
Garfler 3 years ago
I can't get that kick!!i'm using ableton and my kick doesn't "kick" like that! any suggestions pleaseee!!
stikazz 3 years ago
SATURATOR to give it some dirt and thickness.
also, try lots of different kicks.
BassTooth 3 years ago
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Start with some better samples. Try some kicks from "club sounds" sample cds/packs. Good samples and a little enveloping make all the difference.
666debaser 2 years ago
Start with some better samples. Try some kicks from "club sounds" sample cds/packs. Good samples and a little enveloping make all the difference.
666debaser 2 years ago
damnit.
666debaser 2 years ago