air disaster - american airlines flight 191

[jackrabbittt333]

this is seconds from disaster not air disaster

[lacrossestar83]

loses

[4wheelerDJ]

This crash happened on my 12th birthday. A Godawful tragedy.

[ThePablo2201]

Ong

[WackyBroProductions]

that cockpit they were in was a 737 the throttle and over head gave it away



[charmangolakers1]

this is exactly why im afraid to fly

[DV5230US]

great summary of an hour-long program. RIP everyone on that flight

[Lbrianfly]

Ow my god... the captain of this flight doesnt have good hims work. This procedures are saying; the captain must doing hims plane safety check. If this happend, has he doing bad hims work.

[hiphopboy29]

I was always scared on take off if one of the engines would break off like that

[dgifford88]

why do the planes always explode when the crash?

[Kammerz10]

@dgifford88 They don't always, but many seem too. Probably because of the huge amount of fuel carried...once a spark, etc. connects with the jet fuel...I'll try to find more info I'm curious of this myself.

[kingsharkoon]

@Kammerz10 it's correct ;)

[dwilmer7]

What was the Alaska Airlines plane --a dc-10 right?? Those pilots had to fly it upside down until it finally nosed into the pacific.

[Kammerz10]

@dwilmer7 American Airlines.

[1tbounty]

May 25th, 1979, in Des Plaines Illinois. It was sunny that day and very warm. I saw this plane shoot over us at about 300ft. The teachers were screaming and crying. I couldn't take my eyes off the plane. Very tragic and very traumatic. To this very day ( 30+ yrs later ) , I don't fly. And the last two days I keep envisioning everything. God Bless those families and those who lost their lives in this crash.

[MrSpicyPickle]

what show?

[BusterBunker]

I don't know why everyone is dissing the DC-10. It did a some safety problems with the cargo door, but that was fixed. This crash was caused human error on the maintenance side. The only other thing that was wrong with the DC-10 was the design of the hydraulic system, but they fixed that after flight 232 at siux city. It's sad people fix problems after disasters. I like it's younger brother better though. The MD-11, my favorite airliner.

[KrazyTrain18]

dc-10s are and were death traps

[weirdalfan272point0]

I don't believe there is footage of this crash, just a few pictures.

[kurtw71]

# 191 must be cursed, delta 191 also crashed

[tracingstars4]

Gosh DC planes are SO PRONE TO AIR CRASHES I noticed. they're CURSED.

[tarkan1995]

es gibt auch eine deutsche version

[valentinocolovini]

i heat the planes, i heats the planes!!!!!!

[mRsNiCkJoNaSxoxo]

okay... i seriously dont know why im even watching this im already terrified of plnes as it is!

[solomonpilot767]

well all commercial Air Lines should have a video camera from the out side ,that way the pilot can see All the planes components,engine fuselage evrything!

[ashassk]

Well, Now a days, they do have cameras everywhere in/out side the planes.

Not just only that. they have designe the system with remote control. so if someone tries to Highjake the plane then they can fly/control the plane from other army planes or something like that.

[pikiri75]

name is v1 et non v2

[JupiterBleu]

those poor people.u would think that with all our technology they cant build these things any safer. i think they just dont want to spend the time or money.

[michaeld5]

It was a simple bolt that cracked. What are you gonna do?

[duk309]

Damn, i just flew a flight for USAVA USA191

[sam42535624]

why dint you stop the plane

[EdgemanLL2]

sam--by the time youre far enough down the runway to take off, there isnt enough runway left to stop in time. its a guarenteed crash if you try and land it right away.

[UAL4ever]

Pretty much after V2 you have to pull up if no extra runway is available.

[ploop092]

ok guys wats the number of the channels?

[ploop092]

can any1 tell me wat channel this is on on dish and when its on?

[piolet41]

Normally I've seen it on National Geographic channel. There are two shows: "Seconds From Disaster" [this video clip] and "Air Emergency". They do not have weekly time slots so you have to check National Geo. web site for times.

[EdgemanLL2]

Its the chinges channel.

[TOPOFFMAN]

I was wrong. The COMAIR was Flight 5191.

[TOPOFFMAN]

I was wrong. The COMAIR was Flight 5191.

[TOPOFFMAN]

The other one was Comair 191, A small CRJ Regional jet.

[zappaflorida]

so..what'up with 191 flights..there's actualy 3 accidents..191 flight?!!

[EdgemanLL2]

Different airlines. This was American. Delta had one. I dont amemeber the 3rd.

[robg5555]

Also, 273 was the exact number of passengers on KLM 4805. Spooky

[beatlesguru]

See the NTSB report (link on Wikipedia entry). Not all electrical power was lost, but different engines powered different electrical systems. Notably, the "slats disagree" warning and the stickshaker were disabled. Consequently, pilots didn't know that left outboard slats retracted, raising the stall speed on the left wing only (hence the left roll). The FE could've flipped a switch for auxiliary power, but he would have had to swivel his seat & stand up to reach it, so he didn't.

[EdgemanLL2]

Not sure about the elctrical power. But the biggest problem here was time and altitude. Between V1 and Vr is the worst time to lose an engine.

But, I dont think they lost ALL power, only some systemts, like the stick-shaker (a stall warning cue.

But, like many accidents, things seem obvious in retrospect.

This is why, for example, the engine out procedure us now v2+15. And why there is redudant LE hydraulics.

[jgshi]

Will you please post the full video?

[showfire]

Why did the plane loose it's electrical power? Two engines were remaining so why did they loose all electrical power? And why drained ALL hydraulic fuel away? You can see that only one of three independent hydraulic systems is leaking

[Donz5885]

That is because the airplane stall when losing air speed. Normally aircrafts will use at lease 75% of throttle which power up engines for generate enough air lifts to take off.

[showfire]

i know that -_- ... the plane stalled because the slats "moved" in because the hydraulic fuel leaked away ... but my question is why did the cockpit loose all electrical power? 2 engines were remaining to provide electrical power! And why did all the hydraulic fuel drainned away?? You can see on this video that just ONE! of three independent hydraulic system had a whole in it -_- ...

[Donz5885]

When the engine blew away, temporary short circuit occur in aircraft. Pilot can recover its system by turn on the small button just beside the air speed autopilot adjustment button. But, they had failed to do so.

[showfire]

Where did you find this info? (Short circuit). And i still dont know why ALL hydraulic fuel leaked away ...

[Donz5885]

Can't you see that the whole engine pylon just give away? That consider as major damage on wing and also all its hydraulic lines inside.

[Vanadeo]

I'm not sure but i think at that time the DC10s hydraulic lines dint have shut off valves so if one hydraulic line burst all the fluid leaked out. something like that

[napoaramis]

Este accidente lo recuerdo muy bien por las fotos sacadas por el periodico. Realmente no habia nada que hacer por parte de nadie. No entiendo como Amercian Airlines sigue siendo lider a pesar de numerosos accidentes con victimas fatales. Aqui se empeiza a vislumbrar sus terribles fallas. Aramis

[jsmc11]

I'm glad this video acknowledges that the engine and wing were not visible from the cockpit, so the flight crew had no idea of the extent of the damage. The crew followed engine out procedure and unknowingly stalled the left wing due to loss of hydraulics and electricity. The tower saw the engine fall off and failed to inform the flight crew, although "Oh shit" was probably a very appropriate reaction to such a thing. Given the circumstances, the flight was doomed.

[maxangleofdangle]

Know something about DC-10s having been a SO on one. Not all hydraulics or electrics were lost. The pilots didn't know what they had. Not only did the engine fail, it was truly lost. They maintained flying speed appropriate to their takeoff configuration, just as they were trained. When the slats retracted, the stall speed of the wing raised sharply above their current flying speed, and it stalled. IF they been faster, had they known, it is theorized they could have returned for a landing.

[deric8]

It was theorized that they could land but during flight simulators (mentioned on the History Channel special on this) it was proven that there was no way they would be able to land because any turn they make they would flip over.

[maxangleofdangle]

The crew didn't know what they had. If they had known, kept their speed up, there were enough systems remaining to sort things out and return for a landing. Hindsight is 20/20 but for sure, with added speed, the plane could have continued flying. The adopted procedure industry wide as a result is, if you have any engine failure, keep your existing speed rather than slow back to V2. This still may not be enough.

[UAL4ever]

It was their emergency procedures that caused it to stall. The emergency procedure stated to power engines down to V2 which can stall the plane on takeoff. It wasn`t the pilots fault they did everything right. It was the Emergency Checklist that killed them, Sadly.

[deric8]

As a follow-up to this a similar situation occured in Amsterdam with El-Al Flt. 1862 when a very similiar situation occured. Everything was fine and he was flying until he tried to land.

[kdmq]

FULL VIDEO PLZ!

[adamgoncalves]

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