I lived a similar situation. An artist brought to me a mix that was going to be in this artist's next album (with a local record label) . The poor mix didn't have any compression and the vocals were digitally very distorted. Apart from that the mix was in mp3 192 Kbps. When I told the artist about those problems he god mad at me because he was hearing this thing as wonderful. I had no choice but to do what I could and master it as it was. The record label approved it as well.
I really enjoyed this video. I've never heard anything higher than CD quality material as far as digital files go but I plan on building a small music playback system based on a fanless mini-itx computer with a decent USB DAC that supports up to 192Khz. I've found some music online that are higher bitrate than 44.1Khz so I want to try them out :)
Around 1:51:00 After Michael Fremer says music takes you places more so than movies, you can hear Craig leaning over to Steve and call Michael Fremer Columbo, referring to the wacky detective Columbo as seen on TV. Twice. That's not very nice?
I did an A/B comparison between having sex and listening to a good record on my stereo and my stereo just slightly won out.
Its quite obvious even in this pretty low-fi medium that LP sounds so much more natural and real and relaxed over the CD.
Open reel is supposed to be even better but I have around 200 original Living Stereo and Mercury Living Presence tapes but the LP still wins for low level detail which gets obscured by tape hiss.
So many great minds tackling the topical points here... One thing I would note is that sometimes, as an audio engineer, we have the mastering rooms transfer to 1/4" tape, which really helps "glue" pop/rock mixes together... Sure, for Cannonball's "Somethin' Else" I wouldn't wan't a 2nd generation, but a tape bounce can help... The unfortunate side-effect is that it needs "denoising" in the heads/tails... I don't know what's worse for todays music, autotune or brickwall limiting...
furthermore, i am a vinyl collector and have always loved the ambience and have had a hard time accepting CDs as a serious document, more of just for convenience and background music. Just like the ipod is too..
I was surpised i could tell the difference on the video of the mr.tambourine man A/B.. in person, no problem.. the video camera had ok range ? but i did hear lots of distortion on the audio from some mics ..but no matter, great video
thanks for sharing this, it was pretty informative, and a round table like this is not generally accessible..just due to geographics and numbers invovled in the scene.
I lived a similar situation. An artist brought to me a mix that was going to be in this artist's next album (with a local record label) . The poor mix didn't have any compression and the vocals were digitally very distorted. Apart from that the mix was in mp3 192 Kbps. When I told the artist about those problems he god mad at me because he was hearing this thing as wonderful. I had no choice but to do what I could and master it as it was. The record label approved it as well.
VitalPatricia 5 months ago
when I put Mp3 on my mp3 player I encode at 320K
a 64K WMA is equivilent to 196K Mp3 and 196K WMA is equivilent to 320K MP3
raymondleeleggs 7 months ago
Just watching it and loving the different perspectives being given.
utpoia13w 1 year ago
I really enjoyed this video. I've never heard anything higher than CD quality material as far as digital files go but I plan on building a small music playback system based on a fanless mini-itx computer with a decent USB DAC that supports up to 192Khz. I've found some music online that are higher bitrate than 44.1Khz so I want to try them out :)
svtcontour 1 year ago
38:25 the bane of almost every modern audio professional.
tanddonkey 1 year ago
Good vid. I'm still young and I hate the loudness war!
faun2500 1 year ago
I love this.
sdeanmusic 1 year ago
Around 1:51:00 After Michael Fremer says music takes you places more so than movies, you can hear Craig leaning over to Steve and call Michael Fremer Columbo, referring to the wacky detective Columbo as seen on TV. Twice. That's not very nice?
thegrimyeaper 1 year ago
which have a superior sound quality? a mastering studio or a high end audiophile room?
izaatmusic 1 year ago
I did an A/B comparison between having sex and listening to a good record on my stereo and my stereo just slightly won out.
Its quite obvious even in this pretty low-fi medium that LP sounds so much more natural and real and relaxed over the CD.
Open reel is supposed to be even better but I have around 200 original Living Stereo and Mercury Living Presence tapes but the LP still wins for low level detail which gets obscured by tape hiss.
Anderskh 1 year ago
GSM buzz at 38:30 :D
LaKuPuLa 1 year ago
pity there wasnt a good sound man doing this interview
petehall347 1 year ago
Greg is a mastering legend but he'd make a poor recording engineer if that's how he treats his mics ;)
aidfirst 1 year ago
@aidfirst Hahahaha, I was thinking the same thing!
PihSant 1 year ago
Favorited, excellent. Man, I miss school.
boomaga 1 year ago
ANALOGUE RULES
thenoti1 1 year ago
I really enjoyed this. Thanks for posting.
floater89104 1 year ago
2:30 of bitching around... sorry to say so.
paulsn 2 years ago
So many great minds tackling the topical points here... One thing I would note is that sometimes, as an audio engineer, we have the mastering rooms transfer to 1/4" tape, which really helps "glue" pop/rock mixes together... Sure, for Cannonball's "Somethin' Else" I wouldn't wan't a 2nd generation, but a tape bounce can help... The unfortunate side-effect is that it needs "denoising" in the heads/tails... I don't know what's worse for todays music, autotune or brickwall limiting...
mmediaaudio 2 years ago
Holy moly, I've never seen a Youtube video this long.
youtert 2 years ago
@youtert
There's youtube videos out there over 450 hours long.
I'm not even kidding.
Massivecarcrash 1 year ago
Is this longer than 10 minutes? How did they break the youtube 10 minute limit buy several minutes?
yRegal 2 years ago
furthermore, i am a vinyl collector and have always loved the ambience and have had a hard time accepting CDs as a serious document, more of just for convenience and background music. Just like the ipod is too..
I was surpised i could tell the difference on the video of the mr.tambourine man A/B.. in person, no problem.. the video camera had ok range ? but i did hear lots of distortion on the audio from some mics ..but no matter, great video
freqazoidiac 2 years ago
thanks for sharing this, it was pretty informative, and a round table like this is not generally accessible..just due to geographics and numbers invovled in the scene.
freqazoidiac 2 years ago
Great discussions going on!
funny how its on audio quality and the quality of this video isn't that great haha!
Datavus 2 years ago
if thats greg calbi i might be related to him
MrsNickJonas2015 2 years ago
Very interesting indeed!
stefanopola82 2 years ago
Very interesting! I feel the exact way...if it's worth the effort to record, make it the best possible quality! Thanks!!
GCougarMel 2 years ago
The mic quality in the room could be better I guess... xD
My headphone was kinda disturbed a few times.
good video and... long
LineSixDude 3 years ago