How do Europeans really feel about Turkey.(France,Armenian genocide, membership in E.U)

[n8junge]

turkey is not that bad, they have a secular state, unique in muslim world and the turkish people in majority are defending the secularism, we have lot of turks in germany and compared to pakistanis in england they are quite moderate people

[goegelwoegel]

The underlying idea is that Turkey should annex Europe.

[HaeAkita]

this video promotes hatred of foreigners and dogs

[Sulyaman]

Turkey has public porn channels and goes out of their way to be 'western'. Most people are muslim in name only, and they have a mostly good relationship with Israel. Nevermind that I dislike Israel, but don't really believe its some face of islam and whatnot. Their Kemal Ataturk guy, one of those behind the whole westernization thing is the one you should all be blaming for not mentioning it.

[teikucay]

Why turks? All european nations had conquered and slavered other nation in the world!

[tonysanthedarkstar]

@teikucay Because Europe is controlled by Zionists who don't like them. Same thing goes for US and Russia, the communist hunt propaganda.

[DanishGreatDane]

@tonysanthedarkstar Europe is ruled from Islamists and greedy White Capitalists.

[DanishGreatDane]

@teikucay Turks = genocidal maniacs

[teikucay]

@DanishGreatDane Please don't be hypocrite. Admit it, almost all european nations = colonialist, imperialist, greedy evil countries

[DanishGreatDane]

@teikucay are you willing to admit that ALL muslim countries were (and some of them) are still involved in genocides and oppression?

I don't give shit for European Imperialism... i am not christian and i don't want to "give my other cheek".

[teikucay]

@DanishGreatDane Which country? Tell me! If you talk about genocides and oppression US and its allies are much worse than any muslim country. Muslim = ordinary people, Islam = religion. Ordinary people can do mistake and make a misrepresentation.

[aakozanoglu]

Who would want to be a part of a failure when staying out is enough to be better off? Turks are proud to be the leaders of thriving Islamic world.

[MrKir333]

if Turkey become a part of EU,i perfer to die than see that , i was in Turkey last year, Turks have done a bit face lift i the country, but their systems and their mentalities are full full of shit

[MrKir333]

In Persian A Turk = an ass they are dump stupid.

[saadafgan1]

@MrKir333 fuck the persians like you

[MrKir333]

@saadafgan1 shut up mother fucker ass bitch fuck you , all persian fuck all turks asses 

[saadafgan1]

@MrKir333 kiram dar konet...bad asel bad rang.

[saadafgan1]

@MrKir333 kiram dar konet...bad asel bad rang.

[MariRariGari]

Germany is full of Turks...ugh! Islamisation of Europe!

[shining3210]

Critisizing jihad, islam muhamad and so on are forbiden in their religion and punishable by death.

They can never self crtisize and thats why you never hear muslims critisizing other muslims for crimes against infidels..

[utkusarioglu]

@shining3210 lol.. where do you get your facts from?

[shining3210]

@utkusarioglu From islamic laws and experts. sharia laws... They are actually implemented in iran and saudi arabia, and most muslim countries to and extent..

[utkusarioglu]

@shining3210 which have all been abolised in 1923 in turkey.. what else?

[shining3210]

@utkusarioglu By state laws, the religious laws were never changed. Turkey turned secular, islam stayed the same islam.. More then that , the new turkish leadership is very religious, but they are blocked by a secular constitution, so they cant really change a lot, but time will tell, cause i bet turkeys leaders dont like this secular constitution too much.

[utkusarioglu]

@shining3210 new turkish leadership is turning more liberal everyday. secularism is a fundamental pillar of this country and our officials promote secularism in every arab spring country they have been to. last but not least, the other muslim countries think that turkey is not "muslim" enough.. you can easily drink here dress the way you want.. even asking to a person about their beliefs is considered very rude. it's obvious that you are speaking from your gut.

[shining3210]

@utkusarioglu From the mouth of erdogan - "The minarets are our bayonets; the domes are our helmets. Mosques are our barracks, the believers are soldiers. This holy army guards my religion. Almighty, Our journey is our destiny, the end is martyrdom."

Going really secular there..

[utkusarioglu]

@shining3210 yeah that was forever ago. he has not even came remotely close to acting like that even once. those comments are completely irrelevant, as it simply has nothing to do with the way they govern the country

[shining3210]

@utkusarioglu So his wife in niqab hijab or w/e its called suggests that he is pro secularism, and will head the country to be an atheists paradise.. yea..

[utkusarioglu]

@shining3210 secularism has nothing to do with atheism.. learn about philosophies before you try to bash me with them. secularism says "i don't give a f*ck about your religion". so it's also not your or my business to discuss who does what with their head.

[shining3210]

@utkusarioglu Whatever... i predict turkey in time will become less and less secular, erdogan imprisons journalists, impeaches the seculatists generals in the military, and acts talk better then words. Time will tell..

[utkusarioglu]

@shining3210 journalists are not imprisoned they are in detention. your prediction about secularism is true.. currently turkish system simply forbids people to have a religious inclination. that's called laicite. that will be changed with anglo-saxon secularism, more like an american system. military thing was long overdue.. they have been responsible for many atrocities that were left in dark for more than 30 years. plus these are disccused in cases that havent been finalized yet. too early

[shining3210]

@utkusarioglu Detention for what lol?

[utkusarioglu]

@shining3210 turns out there's a terrorist organization named ergenekon which includes journalists military men, statesmen, engineers people from any walk of life really. seemingly they have been responsible for many scandals, especially in the 90s which allegedly also includes the assasination of hrant dink.

[shining3210]

@utkusarioglu hmm just convert everybody there to any other religion the islam and its all good. Its was a christian nation before arabs came there with their kill the kuffar approach.

Time will tell if turkey will go more religious or more secular.

I think ataturk was a great guy, but the current leadership is way strange to his ideas.

[utkusarioglu]

@shining3210 world's thinnest arguments there... ataturk was 100 years ago.. times change. turkey will be more liberal, that's the demand from the people.

[shining3210]

@utkusarioglu Liberalism is not what the people of turkey voted for. Erdogan is an islamic conservative, so is his party.

[utkusarioglu]

@shining3210 you are way out of your element here. the "islamic" kind of people in turkey are less than 10% of the population. intellectuals, mid income and kurds also vote for akp. you really have no knowledge about turkey, yet youre trying to argue with me

[shining3210]

@utkusarioglu Im no expert, and have little knowledge of turkeys politics, but i know erdogan is an islamist..

[utkusarioglu]

@shining3210 okay.. believe in whatever you want to believe

[DanishGreatDane]

@utkusarioglu The president of Turkey is Islamist and Nationalist - you think that he is "secular"

Turkey is genocidal country with rising nationalist and religious majority

Turkey is a mess...

Osama Ben Laden is so proud with u

[utkusarioglu]

@DanishGreatDane oh hey.. yet another bigot

[DanishGreatDane]

@utkusarioglu Oruspu, PKK senin ananin sikiceg

[utkusarioglu]

@DanishGreatDane suuuuuuuure

[ARAKAPRI]

until turkey stops denying the Armenian Genocide, they will have no place in Europe!

[00thelastottoman00]

@ARAKAPRI

REAL HISTORY;

1821<1890<1915

1821 = GREECE GOT FREEDOM

1890 = ARMENIAN REBEL ARMY FOUNDED IN TIFLIS CALLED DASHNAKSUTIUN

1915 = ARMENIAN LEADERS ARRESTED BY OTTOMANS

WE HAVE PLACE IN EUROPE, JUST LOOK TO MAP AND SEE ISTANBUL, THRACE, GOKÇE ISLAND, BOZCA ISLAND, NORTHERN TURKISH CYPRUS..

WE HAVE EUROPEAN LANDS, SO WE DON'T CARE ABOUT EU!!

ACTUALLY EU AND EURO START TO GOING DOWN DUE TO GREEK ECONOMICAL CRISES...

SO, NONE OF TURKS WANT EU MEMBERSHIP...

[AmetReloads]

@00thelastottoman00 Real Torkish history(only in the 20thst century):

Armenian genocide.

Laz genocide in lazistan.

Bulgarian genocide in trakia.

Greek genocide in karadeniz.

Maronites genocide in Levant.

Assyrian genocide in Anatolia.

Arab genocide in hatay.

Kurdish genocide in Anatolia.

[JegHarEnLillePik]

Fuck Turkey. Serbia has acknowledged that what their troops did in the balkan wars was mass murder, and that was a few years ago. But the scumbag-turks will not admit their crimes, what disgusting hypocrites. And they even defend themselves by speaking about that a few turks were killed by armenians. Yes a few hundred was killed. But that is nothing compared to the one million massacred armenians. Fuck Turkey and all fucking hypocrite scum who deny these war crimes!

[The31YearOldVirgin]

Actually, this is kinda nice compared to what I really feel about Turkey.

[VincetheFrogophil]

exactly what we think about Turkey ^^

[FriendOregon]

i'm glad a nation finally had the balls to recognise the armenian genocide.

[VincetheFrogophil]

@FriendOregon yes but if you watch France is producing laws to impose history version. Before you had jew genocide, several other, here you've the armenian version of this law. In fact i find it perverse because we don't recognize genocides of China in Tibet or in Laos and this is the wrong face of this process: historians has no liberty to work correctly.

[DanishGreatDane]

@FriendOregon so laughable,

you are the first "leftie" to recognize the Armenian Genocide.... extreme small minority

[Monsieur421]

Well... there are way more voters of armenian origin here than there are of the turkish one, and there is some election coming soon!

[MensRifleAssociation]

they are not culturally european - so yea, it is a farce.

[utkusarioglu]

@MensRifleAssociation what you say what anyone says.. until they visit turkey.

[MensRifleAssociation]

@utkusarioglu, ok - it's kind of borderline - but do *you* think it's a good fit?

[utkusarioglu]

@utkusarioglu turkey in eu? not necessarily, no. though it depends on how you define eu.