Whenever someone says ".... you know you're dealing with someone that doesn't have any understanding of... anything" you know you're dealing with someone who is so narcissistic and arrogant that nothing useful can come of listening to anything they have to say.
You have drank the Kool-Aid of Big Gov. being the solution! Plot the last 20 years spending and debt based on who controlled the House of Representatives (D or R). It is very clear, the Democrats got us in this mess with all their Big Gov. programs! (Even Clinton now admits Fannie/Freddie Gov. directed housing programs was not the right solution! – the real reason we are in this econ. Mess)
Why don’t you plot the debt just in last 10 years, it will be clear Obama has spent more in 2 years than what was spent under Bush in 8, with an exponential upward trend! I love how Obama spent almost a Trillion in “stimulus”, yet later admits there were no shovel ready projects (he lied), most of the money went to Unions instead of building bridges and roads. It is the largest Union payoff in history… you know the same Union members Obama is allowing to Opt out of Healthcare.
Hmmm, if Obama healthcare is so great why does he only let his friends/supporters Opt out (should be reverse). And I guess your solution is to tax everyone at a higher level, since against tax cuts. How much tax is too much for you Big. Gov. supporters? We already pay about 65%+ (SS, Fed., State, Local, Gas, Sales,Death, Auto, Tolls, and so many other hidden taxes).
I guess when we all pay 80% and our education system fails because there is no longer an incentive to go to college you will finally understand the BS you have been pitching is wrong! We have taxed the heck out of our corporations to the point they have moved outside the US. Yea, what a great strategy that was!!! Our companies now hire people from India, China, Korea (where the plants are now).
Hmmm, last I heard we do not get taxes from those people and now those US companies in foreign lands are doing even more harm to the environment where the regulations are less strict. You liberals have F***ed America! It’s not the lower taxes that will save the US economy directly, it is the return of US companies and jobs.
Here is it in simple terms, to bring back the economy three things need to be done. One, raise taxes on everyone; two, raise wages for the lower and middle class; three, stop giving big banks stimulus. 2 and 3 will never happen because the US is a fascist state. 1 might happen but would be repealed once the right had an opportunity to do so.
@perciballid Really? Clinton raised taxes and created 21 million jobs in four years. Reagan, Bush I and Bush II cut taxes and created 8 million jobs, COMBINED. Stop listening to Fox News. It rots your brain.
@dnaak If you really want to get technical, supply and demand creates jobs. Government is an enabler or disabler depending on policies enacted. History shows what works and what doesn't.
hmm, I agree with you but there are still many factors to consider, such as how are we gonna pay back that money from the gov, are they just printing more money? or they actually taking from the taxpayer safe? Im not too sure of this yet.
you could fix the economy by auditing the federal reserve and getting them to stop printing money out of thin air which they have been doing a hell of a lot more of lately....thats the reason our dollar is becoming worth less because they keep printing more money without anything to back it up.... americas stimulus package should have been bringing back the gold standard so the fed cant pull any more money out of their ass the international bankers run america not obama OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES!!!
and hey did u know the top 20 works citys in the US have had a democratic mayor for at least 10-15 years ok this deficit bill will not help plz stop acting like u know every thing take a look at what the republicans say with out looking at them like thier bad even before u hear it ok plz stop economics 101 i bet he know stuff "double national debt in last 2 years" make it tripple it proud to be an american does understand what he says reagan didint get us into as u say a shitstorm did he??
jsut saying tax cuts saved us when reagan came in to power serch the laffer curve when theres more taxes people become less willing to work because thier money is going to the governement and not them whats irritating me is that you say that proud to be a canadian says is "he has a sever lacking of understanding anything" look on both sides of the arugument plese ur looking very one sided ok as i said tax cuts do work and hey deficite of government moneyis growing larger and the new stim bill
Well his source was coming from Fox news, so the source is flawed before we started.
Interesting quote from TV site TV-Ark:
"Fox decided to position itself as the upstart, with a pronounced editorial voice a fair and balanced alternative to the more liberal slant of the news media (CNN). "
So in my opinion, both are just as bad.
The Republican fanatics were trying everything to keep their party in, including spreading fear and conspiracy. Is it because of the tax cuts they loved?
So your argument is, if tax cuts cost too much and the people might not spend the money because they're too poor, the government should be allowed to make them poorer by proxy without their consent because that will get the economy going again.
HOW?
NB if the banks made the people poor why should they get the money?
I'm looking at a HARVEST, not a DEPRESSION, after all which way is the money going, towards the people or away?
Whenever someone says ".... you know you're dealing with someone that doesn't have any understanding of... anything" you know you're dealing with someone who is so narcissistic and arrogant that nothing useful can come of listening to anything they have to say.
TomKaren1994 3 months ago
You have drank the Kool-Aid of Big Gov. being the solution! Plot the last 20 years spending and debt based on who controlled the House of Representatives (D or R). It is very clear, the Democrats got us in this mess with all their Big Gov. programs! (Even Clinton now admits Fannie/Freddie Gov. directed housing programs was not the right solution! – the real reason we are in this econ. Mess)
dfw222222 1 year ago
Why don’t you plot the debt just in last 10 years, it will be clear Obama has spent more in 2 years than what was spent under Bush in 8, with an exponential upward trend! I love how Obama spent almost a Trillion in “stimulus”, yet later admits there were no shovel ready projects (he lied), most of the money went to Unions instead of building bridges and roads. It is the largest Union payoff in history… you know the same Union members Obama is allowing to Opt out of Healthcare.
dfw222222 1 year ago
Hmmm, if Obama healthcare is so great why does he only let his friends/supporters Opt out (should be reverse). And I guess your solution is to tax everyone at a higher level, since against tax cuts. How much tax is too much for you Big. Gov. supporters? We already pay about 65%+ (SS, Fed., State, Local, Gas, Sales,Death, Auto, Tolls, and so many other hidden taxes).
dfw222222 1 year ago
I guess when we all pay 80% and our education system fails because there is no longer an incentive to go to college you will finally understand the BS you have been pitching is wrong! We have taxed the heck out of our corporations to the point they have moved outside the US. Yea, what a great strategy that was!!! Our companies now hire people from India, China, Korea (where the plants are now).
dfw222222 1 year ago
Hmmm, last I heard we do not get taxes from those people and now those US companies in foreign lands are doing even more harm to the environment where the regulations are less strict. You liberals have F***ed America! It’s not the lower taxes that will save the US economy directly, it is the return of US companies and jobs.
dfw222222 1 year ago
Here is it in simple terms, to bring back the economy three things need to be done. One, raise taxes on everyone; two, raise wages for the lower and middle class; three, stop giving big banks stimulus. 2 and 3 will never happen because the US is a fascist state. 1 might happen but would be repealed once the right had an opportunity to do so.
turquoiseknight 1 year ago
Please kill ur self u fucking asshole
88pp11 1 year ago
How are those tax hikes working out for you now?
QuartuvLarry 2 years ago
Unless you're a smoker, taxes have gone down since Obama took office.
TrueBlueCrusader 2 years ago
Not on the wealth creators
QuartuvLarry 2 years ago
you're wrong and a moron.... tax cuts when tried always works
perciballid 2 years ago 2
@perciballid Really? Clinton raised taxes and created 21 million jobs in four years. Reagan, Bush I and Bush II cut taxes and created 8 million jobs, COMBINED. Stop listening to Fox News. It rots your brain.
turquoiseknight 1 year ago
@turquoiseknight
The President does not create jobs, no matter who is President. Entrepreneurs create jobs. And people who want to work take those jobs.
dnaak 1 year ago
@dnaak If you really want to get technical, supply and demand creates jobs. Government is an enabler or disabler depending on policies enacted. History shows what works and what doesn't.
turquoiseknight 1 year ago
hmm, I agree with you but there are still many factors to consider, such as how are we gonna pay back that money from the gov, are they just printing more money? or they actually taking from the taxpayer safe? Im not too sure of this yet.
alhaquin 2 years ago
you could fix the economy by auditing the federal reserve and getting them to stop printing money out of thin air which they have been doing a hell of a lot more of lately....thats the reason our dollar is becoming worth less because they keep printing more money without anything to back it up.... americas stimulus package should have been bringing back the gold standard so the fed cant pull any more money out of their ass the international bankers run america not obama OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES!!!
codymac231 2 years ago
watch zeitgiest, u will realize it wasn't worth anything to begin with
dominus2k 2 years ago
Guys THE BEST INVESTMENT IS THE PEOPLE.
BeyondInfinium 2 years ago
and hey did u know the top 20 works citys in the US have had a democratic mayor for at least 10-15 years ok this deficit bill will not help plz stop acting like u know every thing take a look at what the republicans say with out looking at them like thier bad even before u hear it ok plz stop economics 101 i bet he know stuff "double national debt in last 2 years" make it tripple it proud to be an american does understand what he says reagan didint get us into as u say a shitstorm did he??
chasermanx77 2 years ago
jsut saying tax cuts saved us when reagan came in to power serch the laffer curve when theres more taxes people become less willing to work because thier money is going to the governement and not them whats irritating me is that you say that proud to be a canadian says is "he has a sever lacking of understanding anything" look on both sides of the arugument plese ur looking very one sided ok as i said tax cuts do work and hey deficite of government moneyis growing larger and the new stim bill
chasermanx77 2 years ago
Does any one know what was the total amount of tax money the government took in for 2008?
FluxCapacitor2008 3 years ago
eleventy bajillion
hobotechMASTER 2 years ago
Well his source was coming from Fox news, so the source is flawed before we started.
Interesting quote from TV site TV-Ark:
"Fox decided to position itself as the upstart, with a pronounced editorial voice a fair and balanced alternative to the more liberal slant of the news media (CNN). "
So in my opinion, both are just as bad.
The Republican fanatics were trying everything to keep their party in, including spreading fear and conspiracy. Is it because of the tax cuts they loved?
Dynamoace 3 years ago
So your argument is, if tax cuts cost too much and the people might not spend the money because they're too poor, the government should be allowed to make them poorer by proxy without their consent because that will get the economy going again.
HOW?
NB if the banks made the people poor why should they get the money?
I'm looking at a HARVEST, not a DEPRESSION, after all which way is the money going, towards the people or away?
Clearer now?
smudge6699 3 years ago