@MrSecoBaba The Basmyl tribes were effectively destroyed; their people sold to the Chinese or distributed amongst the victors. The Uyghurs took control of Mongolia, with the Karluk tribes given lands further West. The Uyghur chief Qutlugh Bilge Köl (Glorious, wise, mighty) had himself crowned as the supreme ruler (khagan) of all Turko-Mongol tribes and built his capital at Ordu Baliq.
In 747, Qutlugh Bilge Köl died, leaving his youngest son, Bayanchur Khan to reign as Khagan El etmish bilge
@MrSecoBaba The Basmyl tribes were effectively destroyed; their people sold to the Chinese or distributed amongst the victors. The Uyghurs took control of Mongolia, with the Karluk tribes given lands further West. The Uyghur chief Qutlugh Bilge Köl (Glorious, wise, mighty) had himself crowned as the supreme ruler (khagan) of all Turko-Mongol tribes and built his capital at Ordu Baliq.
In 747, Qutlugh Bilge Köl died, leaving his youngest son, Bayanchur Khan to reign as Khagan El etmish bilge
@MrSecoBaba The Basmyl tribes were effectively destroyed; their people sold to the Chinese or distributed amongst the victors. The Uyghurs took control of Mongolia, with the Karluk tribes given lands further West. The Uyghur chief Qutlugh Bilge Köl (Glorious, wise, mighty) had himself crowned as the supreme ruler (khagan) of all Turko-Mongol tribes and built his capital at Ordu Baliq.
In 747, Qutlugh Bilge Köl died, leaving his youngest son, Bayanchur Khan to reign as Khagan El etmish bilge
Matsumo found two different genetic group the north mongol (asian) and the south "mongol"(europeans in asia) its the turk, magyar, some iranic and other europid folks.
these 3 races are the turks: turanid, taurid, pamirid. turanid is from cro magnonid andronovo type, taurid is from early anatolians , pamirid is a mix of these two races! common uyghur hungarian genetic markers: r1a, r1b, j , G, N
Most would think that they look eurasians because they cross breed but actually it is the opposite. If you study the human journey theory, it is in Eurasia where people became Caucasoid and Mongoliod. In other words, this is the place where people spilt into caucasians and Asians. Not the other way.
every time when across some videos there some monkeys messing in comments. why the fuck you watching that if you dont like! bruise people everywhere. . .
This is because central Asia is and was a large cross junction for people from the West and the East going into the opposite direction and intermarried with each for almost 3000years continuosly
@babyblack98: your fathers ancestors come from central asia where all were mongol, why dont you like your roots? You are the biggest ignorant and two faced bitch I have ever seen if you say you dont like whole mongol race or whole mongol nation.
@melodymusic9 i don't understand why you're sooo violent i never said i was emabarrased of my ancestors or race all i said that my father was a very special man he always told us to respect people beyond any religion, culture and color all the bad words against me don't affect have a good day
I dont know why do you say "I dont like mongol at all" ???? What I have done to you??? I'm mongolian, I have never seen you in my life!, bitch! You are stupid and ignorant!
@babyblack98 You will die soon, you bitch!!!! I will curse you forever!!!!! You will never have good life!!!! I'm mongolian shaman and I'm cursing you!
the turks are nothing but wandering central asian scum they didnt have names until recently and should piss off back to central asia where they belong europe is for europeans the turks should be gratefull that the europeans civilized these wandering gypsies.
@germiyanbey1 fuck off little mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD.Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China & Inner Mongolia.)
@YildizOsmanli The Turks or Proto-Turks were a large group of nomadic tribes that dominated the northern steppes from the 6th to the 8th century. The Chinese words for the Turks (Tujue 突厥 [twetkjuet] or Tiele 鐵勒 [tjetlak]) are derived from the Turkish word "Türk" or "Türküt". The Turkish languages belong to the Altaic language family. The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolia.
The Turks or Proto-Turks were a large group of nomadic tribes that dominated the northern steppes from the 6th to the 8th century. The Chinese words for the Turks (Tujue 突厥 [twetkjuet] or Tiele 鐵勒 [tjetlak]) are derived from the Turkish word "Türk" or "Türküt". The Turkish languages belong to the Altaic language family. The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolia
Who told you 50%? 23% according to the last census conducted(2009).Maximum share of Russians was 43% in 1960s,but no more. And secondly, what does it have to do with my post? If you think that Caucasoid admixture in Kazakhs is Slavic origin, then again you're WRONG! Kazakhs who have done autosomal DNA testing (including myself) showed 40% Caucasoid Admixture(just go dodecad or harappa BGA websites).
Last but not the least, since you're Turk, YOU'RE ONLY 5-10% EAST ASIAN!!!
@Saken118 read kazakh encyclopeadie it say the russian 50% and the science and offical language is russian , all kazakh have mongols featuer, its not east asia , its name mongols featuer the the caucasian featuer is not correct the correact is iranian cause befor mongols invasion the cwlranian peoples d?( turan encyclopedia) , appear you shame to use term mongols
Man,stop arguing about Russian total share! I'm Kazakh and from Kazakhstan, and know better than you how many Russians we have,ok? (go & check wikipedia)
"the science and offical language is russian", you know what, group of words do not always make an argument! Man, I know the difference between Mongols and Chinese unlike you, they're Tungid and Sinid respectively(heard that terms before,huh?).
Well,I'm sick and tired of people calling Andronovo and their descendants Iranians! Where's a written artefacts?None! Ashamed to use tern Mongol?You're kidding, I guess. Remember, nowadays Mongolians (derived from "myng"-thousand, "qol"-hand) and "Mongol" tribes of Mongolia 13-15 cc are not the exact people! The term Mongol use people like you who doesn't know anything about History and Genetics, the same goes to "Turk".
@YildizOsmanli appear from you name you real turk mongpls (The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD.Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China & Inner Mongolia.)
@mongolANDtamerlane It' funny how some nations try to be caucasoid and argue about it on the net! What's the point? Pure caucasian people look much better when they are mixed with asians or blacks anyway. Kazakhs always try to pretend to have caucasoid genes but they look 100% mongoloid, poor people, they should be ashamed. Europeans always laugh about that. I know that because I live in europe.
who told you that BS?? Are you exact half and half (50%/50%) of your parents??I guess not, you look more one of your (grand)-parents and/or combination of them, but not exact 50/50. The point is Eurasians aren't good example for Racial categorising! Kids from Korean and Russian couples look like Kazakhs(not exactly of course). But Kazakh+Irish(Russian,any european) look like Tatar(Europid people)
@Saken118 Central Asia proper was originally inhabited by Indo-Iranians. The best known of those groups was the nomadic Scythians.[12] The Turkic people began encroaching on the Iranians starting at least in the 5th century AD While ancient cities Taraz (Aulie-Ata) and Hazrat-e Turkestan had long served as important way-stations along the Silk Road connecting East and West, real political consolidation only began with the Mongol invasion of the early 13th century. Under the Mongol Empi
Copying and Pasting,huh?:-D Yes, we do share common origin with Indo people(Aryans) and Eastern Iranian nations like Pashtuns but not with western Iranian(Persian) World. Here's a quote from wiki: "Eastern Iranian is thought to have separated from Western Iranian in the course of the later 2nd millennium BC, and was possibly located at the Yaz culture."
With Greek presence in Central Asia, some of the easternmost of these languages were recorded in their Middle Iranian stage (hence the "Eastern" classification), while almost no records of the Scytho-Sarmatian continuum stretching from Kazakhstan west across the Pontic steppe to Ukraine have survived.
@Saken118 but there are different between scythian and kazakh , scythian was eastern eranian peoples , a hours in scythian is ESIP thus in MEDES and in kurdish and persian but kazakh are one of mongols tribes like turk , what you say
Language shift is an answer. Turks are basically Middle Eastern people in origin,but they speak Turkic language originated in Altai. Azeri also speak Turkic language,but genetically and anthropologically they're basically Iranian people. So Scythians are our ancestors,geography and genetics are in our side. They mixed with newcomers like Huns(Xiongnu)+Turko-Mongol people,and here we are-KAZAKHS!
Go to youtube, type in "Scythian Ice Maiden", there are 5 part video.
@Saken118 no dear turk are one of mongols tribes (The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries ADTribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
@mongolANDtamerlane ok thank for info , only l like know kazakh language and how much clossly to turkish language , if you can understan turkish language and the turkish understand kazakh too,
@melodymusic9 but havent relation to turk mongols(The majority of Europe speaks an Indo-European language that appears to have its roots in a Proto-Language that is believed to have originated between the Caucasus Mountains &ancient Mesopotamia including Zagros-Turus plateauin.Caucasian"race of people" is an invention in1795 by J.F.Blumenbach, a,who based his conclusion on the beauty of female skull found near Mount Caucasus.These people believe the Caucasian people began to fracture about5000BC
@goran21715 << that stupid guy is always posting hate speechs to Turk Channels talk ill about Mongols and use the word "Mongol" as an insult.
He is a pathetic loser member of a tiny nation having no actual history ,just a tribe of Persian but he dares to attack Genghis Khan's nation .He thinks he is white european ,aryen superior etc...what a fail.!!You are nothing...
@kelRapunzel You are nothing merely ittle mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries ADTribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia.
@kelRapunzel how historian describes mnongols (In many parts of the world, in particular, the Arab Middle East, Europe, and the Americas, the Mongols have become synonymous with murder, massacre, and marauding mayhem. Their advent is portrayed as a bloody "bolt from the blue" that left little but destruction, death, and horrified grief in its wake. A medieval Russian chronicle from Novgorod vividly describes their impact on the region:
No one exactly knows who they are, nor whence they came out
most kazakhs look mongoloid to me, I'm mongolian and I see mostly 98% mongoloid kazaks, if kazakh was more caucasoid he/she was mixed with russians and they were from kazakhstan. Mongolian kazakh people are pure kazakhs.
@Saken118 I hate people trying to be caucasoid! What's the point? Pure caucasian people look much better when they are mixed with asians or blacks anyway.
but turk are mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages). Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
Well it's true that many Eurasians tend to turn out white looking. I have an Chinese friend who's married to an Czech women, her kids look very white despite being 50% white. But in many cases they can also look very Asian.
Kristen kruek mother is pure Chinese from Indonesia, she said herself in the interview. While her father is of Canadian of dutch descent (with little Indonesian blood).
@owardis397 :Yes right. many people do not like because kristina kreuk descendants of Indonesia they always said he was Dutch-Chinese and they are wrong. by the way, a lot of white man who was married to a woman, and they prefer women Indonesia Java, probably due to the nature of the soft, sexy and beautiful skin (light brown). and their child were exceedingly beautiful._^^_
@owardis397 : Yes right. many people do not like because kristina kreuk descendants of Indonesia they always said she was Dutch-Chinese and they are wrong. by the way, a lot of white man who was married to a Indonesian woman, and they prefer women Java, probably due to the nature of the soft, sexy and beautiful skin (light brown). and their child were exceedingly beautiful._^^_
people always thought kristina kreuk is china and the netherlands , them wrong and wikipidia also wrong , kristin kreuk mother china indonesia and her grandfather java -indonesia , the father he was Indo-dutch , she is not full china and the netherlands .many faces indonesian women very similar miyabi
''The fact that those who founded the city of Rome were the Etruscan people and they were Turkic people was understood from the genetic examination of the bones in the Etruscan tombs in 2004. The fact that the Etruscan people were Easterners was announced with the report prepared after the survey of the skeleton of 80 Etruscan people between the ages of 2700 and 2300 under the signatures of the genetics scientist..'' =Genetical research, get it???
@Azerbaijanec78 yep, turks think that they have always been in anatolia or in today's azerbaijan, they don't know that before them there were greeks, romans ... and before that other ethnics and before that the homo sapiens (we all know homo sapiens is a mixture of other "homo" genres)
but anyway this is scientific knowledge, not evryone can understand it.
For instance, all Italians, French of south france, some Spanish, Greeks and Anatolian Turks are looking like same? But we can be same by facial; but for our languages (and cultures), they are different? It is the fact that, genes' are adaptating to different environmental conditions. In Mediterranean, that kind of conditions (climate etc.) are different; in Central Asia, they are different. Which was the Adam's nation? All the nations and people changed to their different conditions.
Then why we are speaking very same languages and dialects within that family? Our faces are different, it is because of genes' adaptation. How the Africans are black, or how the Indians have that kind of skin? It is because of genes' adaptation to different kind of environments, climates. If you go to Africa, your skin will change to dark, in centuries and generations, you will be a black person. It is also for eyes and other attributes. We are speaking same language, this is sufficient.
rhe turk are mongolsThe population ancestral to the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberia known from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji,traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty.He lived among the "Mountain Barbarians" Xianyun or Hunzhu
True, they are all Mutts... then again, DNA, history, and a little common sense shows that anyone who thinks they are "pure" anything is deluding oneself since Europeans and even east Asians are "mutts" just as well - just with different mixes and different proportions.
And the part that people HATE the most is that hatred is stupid, because we are all related to one degree or another. People hate that.
Do you know WHY THERE IS MORE dislike bar? because Turkish people clicked the dislike bar and are angry to know that Turkmens, Uyghurs, Uzbeks are Eurasians.
You see, an half asian who mixed with white people look just an central asian Turk.
:)) why do you think that way? It is very well known fact that middle asian Turks are Euroasian people, some of them look Mongolian ,some look european. Everyone knows that, there is nothing to be angry with that.Actually i dont like european word, I prefer Turanian word.Because we are not european people.Europeans look like Turanians.And they owe their civilization to Turanians like Etruscans.Etruscans were also of asian origin(turanian).We are proud of being euroasian.
@Turoyan lol turk are barbarian mongols (The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th &11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages)Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China & Inner Mongolia)
"The Greeks equally owed many of their deities, and early arts, to the congers of the Tuskans in Asia Minor. The mythology of Etruria points to an Eastern, and to a Turanian, origin [...]" (J. G. R. Forlong, Encyclopedia of Religions or Faiths of Man, Teil 2, Kessinger Publishing, 2003, p.74)
"The great feature in the history of the Turanian races is that they were the first to people the WHOLE WORLD beyond the limits of the original cradle of mankind."
(Hodder M. Westropp, Handbook of Egyptian, Greek, Etruscan and Roman Archeology, Kessinger Publishing, 2003, p.482 f.)
1)The fact that those who founded the city of Rome were the Etruscan people and they were Turkic people was understood from the genetic examination of the bones in the Etruscan tombs in 2004. The fact that the Etruscan people were Easterners was announced with the report prepared after the survey of the skeleton of 80 Etruscan people between the ages of 2700 and 2300 under the signatures of the genetics scientist..
@Turoyan dude i perfectly know about etruscs, and in no way they are related to turkics, stop changing words, they are maybe related to ANATOLIAN people, but anatolian is not turkic! and after all it's A THEORY! because at that time, there was no contacts between people that were that far from distance!
:)) Genetics is not a theory, we call it 'science' and everything can be clarified by science. I dont expect you to comprehend that cause you are a 87-idiot iq kurd:)))and these professors are not idiots, they spend their lives to search these issues.Only you 87 iq idiot kurds cant comprehend:))hahah
ca you see any anatolian word here : ''''The fact that those who founded the city of Rome were the Etruscan people and they were Turkic people was understood from the genetic examination of the bones in the Etruscan tombs in 2004. The fact that the Etruscan people were Easterners was announced with the report prepared after the survey of the skeleton of 80 Etruscan people between the ages of 2700 and 2300 under the signatures of the genetics scientist..''
@Turoyan dude you make a big misconception here, in no way anatolia is turkic, etruscs may have anatolian origins, but don't forget that before ottomans, anatolia was mainly greek. people say that etruscs may have their origins from turkey, they refer to the geographical region and not to their people.
you say that anatolia is turkic, italia is turkic and that those turkic people migrated to central asia, in order to have today, those turkic countries? so for you all started in anatolia for turks? ahhaha
and no you didn't give me scientific sources, coz you are confounding turkey, anatolia and turks; geography, history and ethnicity.
for me you don't mix those things, it's not logical.
:)))) I admired your comprehending:))I gave you western sources which has the signatures of many european scientist and archeologist.You belive what you want to believe thats why all you said here were just your emotions:))Modern Turks and and Italians have nothing in common,because they are not even etruscan people.They speak indo-eu anguage not etruscan.These civilizations dissappeared but they were of Turanian origin of course.That's what science says not me.Dont be so jealous:)
during years many civilization migrated land to land.None of the europeans is native european.Sumerians were not native mesapotamian,hurrians were not native anatolian too,they all migrated from somewhere else. Turanian territory was expending from asia to europe,not only in middle asia.But allmost all ancient languages were agglutinative like Turkish, indo-eu languages are assimilated very young languages.
Professor Guido BARBUJANİ from Ferrera University, Professor davit CARAMELLİ from Firenze University, Professor Loredana CASTRY from Bologna University, Professor Antonella CASOLİ from Parma University, Professor Francesco MALLEGNİ from Pisa University and Professor Carles LALUEZA from Pompeu Farba University in Barcelona Spain.=> these scientists dont know anything but you know :)))))))you are really funny:))
You are talking about Oghuz tribe of Turanians:))Yes Oghuz Turks came so lately to western side.But many of them had already been in west before Oghuz migration.I am talking about Turanians not Oghuz tribe of Turanians..
even today many scholars are using Turkish to connect ancient languages.Cause sumerians , etruscans and many civilizations collaped to asia and middle east, you can find 2000 common words only between Sumerian and Turkish while Turkish only has 120 common words with Mongolian language.You can also fidn Turkish Runes which is so similar to germanic, anglo-saxon and etruscan alphabets.Cause Turks didnt only live in asia but from asia to europe.
@Turoyan and when you quote a book, you give the title too, you didn't give any, just some names, so i ask you to give me the entire correct quotation of the book in which they say that etruscs have TURKIC origins and not ANATOLIAN.
@Turoyan in no way i try to confound mongols and turks, secondly, the runes all resemble it's because they couldn't write straight, that's why you have those circular writing and not linear
:)) I am talking about grammar, agglutinative term is used for grammar:)) people can change different clothes but their dna doesnt change after changing clothes.. Turkish has an intelligent grammar. A persian proverb : ' Arabic is a language, Persian is eating a sweetmeat, Turkish is an art''
for you it's intelligent grammar, for me it's poor vocabular leading to poor thinking ...
anyway centuries ago, people didn't have ferraris, you understand? even the known world was not more than the meditteranean pourtour for lot of people! for example america was discovered in 15th c. by columbus.
i don't think that turanians migrated to europe before the 1300's, very hard. like i told you, they didn't have same worldmap as us.
"The mythology of the Altaian Turks, for example, is so nearly identical with that of the early Scandinavians that some close association in the not far distant past is necessary. Furthermore, the ritual of the horse sacrifice is so integral a part of the religion of both Indo-European and Altaic-speaking peoples that recent diffusion alone cannot explain the identity." (Carleton Stevens Coon, The races of Europe, Greenwood Press, 1972 , p.179)
@Turoyan this is possible, yet it's in far north, there could have been exchanges with those nordic tribes and turanians, like today there are lot of turkic tribes in siberia.
but you must know that those nordic tribes didn't have exchanges with the southern european, the nordic tribes were considered as "barbares".
anyway your derailing, at to what historical do you refer? im refering to antiquity, where nordic people had no exchanges with southern european.
we have to dig the source of Turanians first. We could say that Turks were Mongolian origined but mixed with caucasians,but their language is almost completely different than Mongolians,even the most basic words like numbers dont match their languages while indo-european languages share many words.Altai language theory also rotten 50 years ago.That shows Turkish was an independed language.
But Turkish has many similarities with ancient grammars.And also when we look at the alphabet we cannot see similarities between Mongolian and Turkish. So we must search other possibilities.Turks were Caucasian origined people who mixed with Mongolians.Genetically and culturally this possibility seems more logical.Cause we can see more similarities nothern euro-asian civilizations and Turks.
when i say all these civilizations were Turkic or Turanian.I dont expect anyone to accept that cause modern Turks of Turkey are different people than Turanians.Of course modern germanics or italians are completely different people than us.I am not a wannabee.Modern Turks of Turkey are Anatolian and Turanian mixed people.But Turanians before islam is a mystery, there are many things are hidden.I just want truth about them.I dont care modern italians or germanics.
@Turoyan you have your point of view, i have mine, and according to mine turanians have not had influences on southern europe nor in anatolia, i know people that say hittites were turanians also, yet in their art there is nothing related to turanian, people say it because its in turkey today, but they forget that anatolia and southern asia was a lot influenced by caucasian and persian people (we can also put persian in the same category as caucasian, coz today they are all indo-eu.)
it depends how they define Turanians,cause i define them as 'caucasian' origined euroasian people.Otherwise it is a huge coincidence that Turks invented an agglutinative language and runic alphabet without any influence.People also forget that anatolian civilizations migrated from somewhere else.Anatolia was like a bridge that many civilizations passed like celtic Galatians, Caucasian Hurrians,persians ,hellens.. and even semitics.
@Turoyan for me there are 4 main points of early humanoids : america, africa, mesopotamia+soutern asia and northern-eastern asia.
I see turanians from eastern asia origin.
the language is not a coincidence but it has not influences, the runes are not coincidense also, coz the symboles are world wide symbols + people wrote the runes in hard material, not easy to do linear shapes.
its funny how u use eurasian, because eurasian is a mix of caucasian and asian.
so Turkish language was developed independedly without any influence?and Runes were also developed not coincedentally but without any influence??We must define 'coincedence ' then.Cause your words are in contrast.I ask this :from where Turks learn agglutinative language and runes??Did they develop them by themselves?Or why didnt they use Mongolian or chienese scripts and speak their language?Why their mythology and symbols look like northern and etruscans??
It is not true to be close minded possibilities,I prefer to give a chance to every possibility.Hittitians were Turanian or not, modern Turks are directly descendentd of native anatolians also.So nothing changes if they were Turanian or not.I dont agree with you about Hittitians and Turanians were not related about art cause 2 headed eagle was the symbol of Hittites and Turks.maybe it is a coincidence or not but it was common.
@Turoyan idk if i told u already but today's turkey, there are no pure turks, mustafa kemal gave the name of turkey, because he needed unity in order to make a country. I don't think anatolian people were related to turanians in any way, because those people only began to speak turkish in 1800-1900 (ottomans spoke arab mainly), and before ottomans people spoke either latin, greek or farsi.
i suggest you look at the old carpets in anatolia. You will see the turkish shamanic existence in the symbols.Also I know a little Greek,so i can say that there are many words in Greek Turkish origin.Especially old Greek people speak more Turkish words. You can see shadow-play theatre in Greece.I dont think that Turks spoke arabic or persian.It was only Ottoman government, but not people.
Atatürk believed that Trojans were also Turanian.Western world considered Trojans ' Turcus' people and the name of anatolia and even byzantine empire was 'Turcia'.This name comes from trojan king 'Bardanes Turcus'.So Atatürk didnt hesitate to choose Turk and Turkiye names for Turkey, cause Turk name was common name for an Anatolian civilizations/Trojans and Turanians, even if they were related or NOT.
@Turoyan ok you say that turanians influenced from west to east, but they just can't spread like that or else evryone is turanian then? no sense, turanian stopped with turkmenistan, look at turkey or azerbaijan, they have no turkic speaking neighbours.
Our ancestors are Turks who are comrades of Oden. We have got enough evidence on this subject. There are people who want to fool you into thinking they are Goths, or Tyrks. I don't care whether it will be discrediting for me or not. Oden and his comrades were Turks. « (Prof. Dr. Sven Lagerbring)
"The Greeks equally owed many of their deities, and early arts, to the congers of the Tuskans in Asia Minor. The mythology of Etruria points to an Eastern, and to a Turanian, origin [...]" (J. G. R. Forlong, Encyclopedia of Religions or Faiths of Man, Teil 2, Kessinger Publishing, 2003, p.74)
Cant you see the reference and the name of the book here????
"The great feature in the history of the Turanian races is that they were the first to people the WHOLE WORLD beyond the limits of the original cradle of mankind."
(Hodder M. Westropp, Handbook of Egyptian, Greek, Etruscan and Roman Archeology, Kessinger Publishing, 2003, p.482 f.)
@Turoyan when people say turkey, they don't automatically refer to TURKS but to the geographical area which turkey englobes, do you understand? and when your journalists say that etruscs have their origin from turkey, they mean the geographical region that turkey forms today, they don't refer to turks!
hahaha little girly trying to impress, go study a bit, you will open your eyes.
2)under the signatures of the genetics scientist Professor Guido BARBUJANİ from Ferrera University, Professor davit CARAMELLİ from Firenze University, Professor Loredana CASTRY from Bologna University, Professor Antonella CASOLİ from Parma University, Professor Francesco MALLEGNİ from Pisa University and Professor Carles LALUEZA from Pompeu Farba University in Barcelona Spain.
Oghuz turk are not mongol
MrSecoBaba 22 hours ago
@MrSecoBaba The Basmyl tribes were effectively destroyed; their people sold to the Chinese or distributed amongst the victors. The Uyghurs took control of Mongolia, with the Karluk tribes given lands further West. The Uyghur chief Qutlugh Bilge Köl (Glorious, wise, mighty) had himself crowned as the supreme ruler (khagan) of all Turko-Mongol tribes and built his capital at Ordu Baliq.
In 747, Qutlugh Bilge Köl died, leaving his youngest son, Bayanchur Khan to reign as Khagan El etmish bilge
goran21715 2 hours ago
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@MrSecoBaba The Basmyl tribes were effectively destroyed; their people sold to the Chinese or distributed amongst the victors. The Uyghurs took control of Mongolia, with the Karluk tribes given lands further West. The Uyghur chief Qutlugh Bilge Köl (Glorious, wise, mighty) had himself crowned as the supreme ruler (khagan) of all Turko-Mongol tribes and built his capital at Ordu Baliq.
In 747, Qutlugh Bilge Köl died, leaving his youngest son, Bayanchur Khan to reign as Khagan El etmish bilge
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@MrSecoBaba The Basmyl tribes were effectively destroyed; their people sold to the Chinese or distributed amongst the victors. The Uyghurs took control of Mongolia, with the Karluk tribes given lands further West. The Uyghur chief Qutlugh Bilge Köl (Glorious, wise, mighty) had himself crowned as the supreme ruler (khagan) of all Turko-Mongol tribes and built his capital at Ordu Baliq.
In 747, Qutlugh Bilge Köl died, leaving his youngest son, Bayanchur Khan to reign as Khagan El etmish bilge
goran21715 2 hours ago
Matsumo found two different genetic group the north mongol (asian) and the south "mongol"(europeans in asia) its the turk, magyar, some iranic and other europid folks.
HungarianHistory2 5 days ago
these 3 races are the turks: turanid, taurid, pamirid. turanid is from cro magnonid andronovo type, taurid is from early anatolians , pamirid is a mix of these two races! common uyghur hungarian genetic markers: r1a, r1b, j , G, N
HungarianHistory2 5 days ago
@HungarianHistory2 you are the most accurate i like it
babyblack98 4 days ago
turkestan was europid, the mongolization of turks after mongol invasion, read about dna!
HungarianHistory2 5 days ago
Most would think that they look eurasians because they cross breed but actually it is the opposite. If you study the human journey theory, it is in Eurasia where people became Caucasoid and Mongoliod. In other words, this is the place where people spilt into caucasians and Asians. Not the other way.
winstoncheng 5 days ago
@winstoncheng
It is genetic which shows them being mixture of Mongoloid and Caucasoid.
mongolANDtamerlane 5 days ago
Go to Fuck Antiturkic propagands!!!
napoleon142 1 week ago
every time when across some videos there some monkeys messing in comments. why the fuck you watching that if you dont like! bruise people everywhere. . .
virues 1 week ago
LOL
Wiligoth 1 week ago
This is because central Asia is and was a large cross junction for people from the West and the East going into the opposite direction and intermarried with each for almost 3000years continuosly
sonnymak 1 week ago
I DON'T LIKE MONGOL AT ALL
babyblack98 1 week ago
@babyblack98: your fathers ancestors come from central asia where all were mongol, why dont you like your roots? You are the biggest ignorant and two faced bitch I have ever seen if you say you dont like whole mongol race or whole mongol nation.
melodymusic9 5 days ago
@melodymusic9 i don't understand why you're sooo violent i never said i was emabarrased of my ancestors or race all i said that my father was a very special man he always told us to respect people beyond any religion, culture and color all the bad words against me don't affect have a good day
babyblack98 4 days ago
@babyblack98
I dont know why do you say "I dont like mongol at all" ???? What I have done to you??? I'm mongolian, I have never seen you in my life!, bitch! You are stupid and ignorant!
melodymusic9 4 days ago
@melodymusic9 i have never said that but whatever die in your own rath i don't believe in curses may God bless you in every way
babyblack98 4 days ago
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melodymusic9 4 days ago
@babyblack98 You will die soon, you bitch!!!! I will curse you forever!!!!! You will never have good life!!!! I'm mongolian shaman and I'm cursing you!
melodymusic9 4 days ago
true turks mongols ;
TURKEY TURKS ARE FCUKED MIXED
PkkFreedomFighter3 1 week ago
@PkkFreedomFighter3 turks were your father ..kurdish moron
xDarkNicotine 1 week ago
@xDarkNicotine TURKS FUCKED BY KURDS GREEKS ARMENIANS RUSSIANS PERSIANS HAHAHA MONGOL TURKS BACK TO MONGOLIA
PkkFreedomFighter3 1 week ago
@PkkFreedomFighter3
I think turks fucked kurds, greeks, russians, persians.
melodymusic9 5 days ago
idiots:)) fuck all idiots, nations doesnt matter:)
zubizarettaa 2 weeks ago
my question is ....so what?
Mahmood42978 2 weeks ago
hungarian blooded chicks
GOGesMAGOG 2 weeks ago
@MsGera1994 god bless you too :)
shadowfury01 3 weeks ago
LYNCH TURKS
AmirATW 3 weeks ago
kazakhs don't die to be caucasoid..
i think every race has beauty..
the beauty is in our heart :)
god bless u people of the world
Kazakh message =)
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the turks are nothing but wandering central asian scum they didnt have names until recently and should piss off back to central asia where they belong europe is for europeans the turks should be gratefull that the europeans civilized these wandering gypsies.
S3RBIAN3AGLE187 3 weeks ago
goran, fuck off from these threads
germiyanbey1 3 weeks ago
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@germiyanbey1 fuck off little mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD.Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China & Inner Mongolia.)
goran21715 2 weeks ago
Im half turk but everyone thinks im some kind of asian or arab x) but hey its alright lol
YildizOsmanli 3 weeks ago
@YildizOsmanli The Turks or Proto-Turks were a large group of nomadic tribes that dominated the northern steppes from the 6th to the 8th century. The Chinese words for the Turks (Tujue 突厥 [twetkjuet] or Tiele 鐵勒 [tjetlak]) are derived from the Turkish word "Türk" or "Türküt". The Turkish languages belong to the Altaic language family. The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolia.
goran21715 3 weeks ago
@goran21715 cool :) lol
YildizOsmanli 3 weeks ago
Turkmens,Uzbeks(Sarts),and Uyghurs are 60-70% Caucasoid, what kind of "balanced" Eurasian features are you talking about??
P.S. Don't believe me,go to the bathroom and look at the mirror,there you'll see the answer:lol
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118
Thank God you dont look 100% caucasoid, they look better when they have asian in them.
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Saken118 4 weeks ago
The Turks or Proto-Turks were a large group of nomadic tribes that dominated the northern steppes from the 6th to the 8th century. The Chinese words for the Turks (Tujue 突厥 [twetkjuet] or Tiele 鐵勒 [tjetlak]) are derived from the Turkish word "Türk" or "Türküt". The Turkish languages belong to the Altaic language family. The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolia
goran21715 4 weeks ago
Kazakhs are not 70-80% Mongoloid!They are 60% Mongoloid
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118 but 50% of kazakh population are russian not mongolian , mongols gene is dominant so any person marry mongols the childs well mongolied ,
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
Who told you 50%? 23% according to the last census conducted(2009).Maximum share of Russians was 43% in 1960s,but no more. And secondly, what does it have to do with my post? If you think that Caucasoid admixture in Kazakhs is Slavic origin, then again you're WRONG! Kazakhs who have done autosomal DNA testing (including myself) showed 40% Caucasoid Admixture(just go dodecad or harappa BGA websites).
Last but not the least, since you're Turk, YOU'RE ONLY 5-10% EAST ASIAN!!!
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118 read kazakh encyclopeadie it say the russian 50% and the science and offical language is russian , all kazakh have mongols featuer, its not east asia , its name mongols featuer the the caucasian featuer is not correct the correact is iranian cause befor mongols invasion the cwlranian peoples d?( turan encyclopedia) , appear you shame to use term mongols
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
Man,stop arguing about Russian total share! I'm Kazakh and from Kazakhstan, and know better than you how many Russians we have,ok? (go & check wikipedia)
"the science and offical language is russian", you know what, group of words do not always make an argument! Man, I know the difference between Mongols and Chinese unlike you, they're Tungid and Sinid respectively(heard that terms before,huh?).
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118 ok what you like that ok it no mind me only l thinked you are turk ,l regard yu and all kazakh ,
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
Well,I'm sick and tired of people calling Andronovo and their descendants Iranians! Where's a written artefacts?None! Ashamed to use tern Mongol?You're kidding, I guess. Remember, nowadays Mongolians (derived from "myng"-thousand, "qol"-hand) and "Mongol" tribes of Mongolia 13-15 cc are not the exact people! The term Mongol use people like you who doesn't know anything about History and Genetics, the same goes to "Turk".
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
It's you Turks who are Islamisized and Turkified Vyzantine GREEKS+KURDS+(with minor ARABS+ARMENIANS+SLAVIC) genes trying to steel our history!
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118 hahaha lol l am kurdish not turk , real those turk hateful for all, yes they steal from all you right and l am sorry
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@goran21715 im like a mutt. turk/kurd/ and south american >.< LOL im just american
YildizOsmanli 3 weeks ago
@YildizOsmanli appear from you name you real turk mongpls (The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD.Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China & Inner Mongolia.)
goran21715 3 weeks ago
@Saken118
It's more like 60-70% Mongoloid 30-40% caucasoid.
Kazakhs caucasoid admixture is sometimes only 25%, sometimes 30%, sometimes 35%. The average Kazakhs is supposed to be from 60% to 70% mongoloid.
mongolANDtamerlane 4 weeks ago
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@mongolANDtamerlane It' funny how some nations try to be caucasoid and argue about it on the net! What's the point? Pure caucasian people look much better when they are mixed with asians or blacks anyway. Kazakhs always try to pretend to have caucasoid genes but they look 100% mongoloid, poor people, they should be ashamed. Europeans always laugh about that. I know that because I live in europe.
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Saken118 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
who told you that BS?? Are you exact half and half (50%/50%) of your parents??I guess not, you look more one of your (grand)-parents and/or combination of them, but not exact 50/50. The point is Eurasians aren't good example for Racial categorising! Kids from Korean and Russian couples look like Kazakhs(not exactly of course). But Kazakh+Irish(Russian,any european) look like Tatar(Europid people)
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118 Central Asia proper was originally inhabited by Indo-Iranians. The best known of those groups was the nomadic Scythians.[12] The Turkic people began encroaching on the Iranians starting at least in the 5th century AD While ancient cities Taraz (Aulie-Ata) and Hazrat-e Turkestan had long served as important way-stations along the Silk Road connecting East and West, real political consolidation only began with the Mongol invasion of the early 13th century. Under the Mongol Empi
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
Copying and Pasting,huh?:-D Yes, we do share common origin with Indo people(Aryans) and Eastern Iranian nations like Pashtuns but not with western Iranian(Persian) World. Here's a quote from wiki: "Eastern Iranian is thought to have separated from Western Iranian in the course of the later 2nd millennium BC, and was possibly located at the Yaz culture."
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118 opk l agree with you
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
With Greek presence in Central Asia, some of the easternmost of these languages were recorded in their Middle Iranian stage (hence the "Eastern" classification), while almost no records of the Scytho-Sarmatian continuum stretching from Kazakhstan west across the Pontic steppe to Ukraine have survived.
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118 but there are different between scythian and kazakh , scythian was eastern eranian peoples , a hours in scythian is ESIP thus in MEDES and in kurdish and persian but kazakh are one of mongols tribes like turk , what you say
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
Google Ismagulov or go to s155239215 . onlinehome.us /turkic/60_Genetics /Ismagulov/Ismagulov AnthropologyConclusionEn. htm
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
My autosomal DNA breakdown: 62.6% East Asian(mostly Siberian),26.7% North-East Europe, 10.7% South Asia(all Pakistan)
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118 nice , if you kazakh l like ask you you speak turkish language or kazakh and can you understand turkish language , thanks
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
Well, I speak 3 languages fluently:Kazakh,Russian,English
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118 l asked relation of kazakh to turkish language anf if you understand turkish
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
Q1: Google
Q2: Yes,especially in writing
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
Language shift is an answer. Turks are basically Middle Eastern people in origin,but they speak Turkic language originated in Altai. Azeri also speak Turkic language,but genetically and anthropologically they're basically Iranian people. So Scythians are our ancestors,geography and genetics are in our side. They mixed with newcomers like Huns(Xiongnu)+Turko-Mongol people,and here we are-KAZAKHS!
Go to youtube, type in "Scythian Ice Maiden", there are 5 part video.
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@Saken118 no dear turk are one of mongols tribes (The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries ADTribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
Do the DNA testing,and we'll see.
Saken118 4 weeks ago
@goran21715
2009 Kazakhstan population 16 million
63% Kazakhs (11 million)
23.3 Russians
2.1% Ukrainians
mongolANDtamerlane 4 weeks ago
@mongolANDtamerlane ok thank for info , only l like know kazakh language and how much clossly to turkish language , if you can understan turkish language and the turkish understand kazakh too,
goran21715 4 weeks ago
@mongolANDtamerlane , mongolians are very ugly. Super small slanted slit eyes is the mongo race looking. Also super wide flat faces.
ProudVietShitGook 2 weeks ago
@goran21715 it's caucasoid gene is very week, whoever ther marry they become black or asian, lol
melodymusic9 5 days ago
@melodymusic9 but havent relation to turk mongols(The majority of Europe speaks an Indo-European language that appears to have its roots in a Proto-Language that is believed to have originated between the Caucasus Mountains &ancient Mesopotamia including Zagros-Turus plateauin.Caucasian"race of people" is an invention in1795 by J.F.Blumenbach, a,who based his conclusion on the beauty of female skull found near Mount Caucasus.These people believe the Caucasian people began to fracture about5000BC
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@goran21715 Would you pls stop that shit hate speech.Get a life ..I am proud of being Eurasian ok..I don't deny my Asian roots
if you want to be nationalist just praise your nation dont attack others ,silly
kelRapunzel 3 hours ago
@goran21715 << that stupid guy is always posting hate speechs to Turk Channels talk ill about Mongols and use the word "Mongol" as an insult.
He is a pathetic loser member of a tiny nation having no actual history ,just a tribe of Persian but he dares to attack Genghis Khan's nation .He thinks he is white european ,aryen superior etc...what a fail.!!You are nothing...
kelRapunzel 3 hours ago
@kelRapunzel You are nothing merely ittle mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries ADTribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia.
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@goran21715 you have nothing to praise your nation because your nation have nothing to praise ..
thats why you attack and insult others dimwit!!
kelRapunzel 2 hours ago
@kelRapunzel how historian describes mnongols (In many parts of the world, in particular, the Arab Middle East, Europe, and the Americas, the Mongols have become synonymous with murder, massacre, and marauding mayhem. Their advent is portrayed as a bloody "bolt from the blue" that left little but destruction, death, and horrified grief in its wake. A medieval Russian chronicle from Novgorod vividly describes their impact on the region:
No one exactly knows who they are, nor whence they came out
goran21715 2 hours ago
@Saken118 kazakhs are 98% mongoloid. Most of them are just 100% mongoloid.
melodymusic9 5 days ago
@Saken118
most kazakhs look mongoloid to me, I'm mongolian and I see mostly 98% mongoloid kazaks, if kazakh was more caucasoid he/she was mixed with russians and they were from kazakhstan. Mongolian kazakh people are pure kazakhs.
melodymusic9 5 days ago
@Saken118 I hate people trying to be caucasoid! What's the point? Pure caucasian people look much better when they are mixed with asians or blacks anyway.
melodymusic9 5 days ago
Attila was the one best described.
Lordofthenipplerings 1 month ago
The picture at 0:38 is incredible.
A great representation of ''mixed origin people''. I am sure that the huns looked like that. I'm not discriminate them, they look very strong.
mikgazine 1 month ago
but turk are mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages). Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
goran21715 1 month ago
they are all in the video it looks like white people and some people are a mix of Asian and white
kartikasweet 1 month ago
@kartikasweet
Well it's true that many Eurasians tend to turn out white looking. I have an Chinese friend who's married to an Czech women, her kids look very white despite being 50% white. But in many cases they can also look very Asian.
Kristen kruek mother is pure Chinese from Indonesia, she said herself in the interview. While her father is of Canadian of dutch descent (with little Indonesian blood).
owardis397 4 weeks ago
@owardis397 :Yes right. many people do not like because kristina kreuk descendants of Indonesia they always said he was Dutch-Chinese and they are wrong. by the way, a lot of white man who was married to a woman, and they prefer women Indonesia Java, probably due to the nature of the soft, sexy and beautiful skin (light brown). and their child were exceedingly beautiful._^^_
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@owardis397 : Yes right. many people do not like because kristina kreuk descendants of Indonesia they always said she was Dutch-Chinese and they are wrong. by the way, a lot of white man who was married to a Indonesian woman, and they prefer women Java, probably due to the nature of the soft, sexy and beautiful skin (light brown). and their child were exceedingly beautiful._^^_
kartikasweet 4 weeks ago
people always thought kristina kreuk is china and the netherlands , them wrong and wikipidia also wrong , kristin kreuk mother china indonesia and her grandfather java -indonesia , the father he was Indo-dutch , she is not full china and the netherlands .many faces indonesian women very similar miyabi
kartikasweet 1 month ago
mongolian!!
elgun89 1 month ago
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''The fact that those who founded the city of Rome were the Etruscan people and they were Turkic people was understood from the genetic examination of the bones in the Etruscan tombs in 2004. The fact that the Etruscan people were Easterners was announced with the report prepared after the survey of the skeleton of 80 Etruscan people between the ages of 2700 and 2300 under the signatures of the genetics scientist..'' =Genetical research, get it???
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Azerbaijanec78 yep, turks think that they have always been in anatolia or in today's azerbaijan, they don't know that before them there were greeks, romans ... and before that other ethnics and before that the homo sapiens (we all know homo sapiens is a mixture of other "homo" genres)
but anyway this is scientific knowledge, not evryone can understand it.
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@Azerbaijanec78 i cant say anything about your ill idea :) keep your daydream and take your honour ;)
xDarkNicotine 1 month ago
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For instance, all Italians, French of south france, some Spanish, Greeks and Anatolian Turks are looking like same? But we can be same by facial; but for our languages (and cultures), they are different? It is the fact that, genes' are adaptating to different environmental conditions. In Mediterranean, that kind of conditions (climate etc.) are different; in Central Asia, they are different. Which was the Adam's nation? All the nations and people changed to their different conditions.
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germiyanbey1 1 month ago
Then why we are speaking very same languages and dialects within that family? Our faces are different, it is because of genes' adaptation. How the Africans are black, or how the Indians have that kind of skin? It is because of genes' adaptation to different kind of environments, climates. If you go to Africa, your skin will change to dark, in centuries and generations, you will be a black person. It is also for eyes and other attributes. We are speaking same language, this is sufficient.
germiyanbey1 1 month ago
turkmen girl is so cute ^_~
i love mongoltic girl!!
fuck white racist!!!!!
norikaaz 1 month ago
@Azerbaijanec78 shut up moron .. dediklerine kendin inanıyormusun ??
Y DNA in turkmenistan r1b - 37 % r1a - 9 % j2 - 17% G- 10 % turkey G - 28 % r1b - 21 % J2 - 16% r1a- 7 %
azerbaijan -r1b 11 % G - 18 % J2 24 % r1a 7 %
who are asian
xDarkNicotine 1 month ago
Turks are mongolian like hun-garians
neneafrectie 1 month ago
@neneafrectie
and you are a bitch like your mom.
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rhe turk are mongolsThe population ancestral to the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberia known from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji,traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty.He lived among the "Mountain Barbarians" Xianyun or Hunzhu
goran21715 1 month ago
Ne demek istiyon lan pezevenk
ForcesIslamic 1 month ago
True, they are all Mutts... then again, DNA, history, and a little common sense shows that anyone who thinks they are "pure" anything is deluding oneself since Europeans and even east Asians are "mutts" just as well - just with different mixes and different proportions.
And the part that people HATE the most is that hatred is stupid, because we are all related to one degree or another. People hate that.
dleechristy 1 month ago
@Turkvolk
Do you know WHY THERE IS MORE dislike bar? because Turkish people clicked the dislike bar and are angry to know that Turkmens, Uyghurs, Uzbeks are Eurasians.
You see, an half asian who mixed with white people look just an central asian Turk.
mongolANDtamerlane 1 month ago
@mongolANDtamerlane
:)) why do you think that way? It is very well known fact that middle asian Turks are Euroasian people, some of them look Mongolian ,some look european. Everyone knows that, there is nothing to be angry with that.Actually i dont like european word, I prefer Turanian word.Because we are not european people.Europeans look like Turanians.And they owe their civilization to Turanians like Etruscans.Etruscans were also of asian origin(turanian).We are proud of being euroasian.
Turoyan 1 month ago
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@Turoyan lol turk are barbarian mongols (The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th &11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages)Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China & Inner Mongolia)
goran21715 1 month ago
@Turoyan stop saying bullshit, turanian world is focused on central asia, only today we have turkey (but in ethnicity they are not turkic).
think a bit before writing, before human only lived 20-25 years, and you think that people migrated from central asia to italia? they had ferraris?
bullshit, and you say your high iq? HAHAHAHA
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
"The Greeks equally owed many of their deities, and early arts, to the congers of the Tuskans in Asia Minor. The mythology of Etruria points to an Eastern, and to a Turanian, origin [...]" (J. G. R. Forlong, Encyclopedia of Religions or Faiths of Man, Teil 2, Kessinger Publishing, 2003, p.74)
Turoyan 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
"The great feature in the history of the Turanian races is that they were the first to people the WHOLE WORLD beyond the limits of the original cradle of mankind."
(Hodder M. Westropp, Handbook of Egyptian, Greek, Etruscan and Roman Archeology, Kessinger Publishing, 2003, p.482 f.)
Turoyan 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
1)The fact that those who founded the city of Rome were the Etruscan people and they were Turkic people was understood from the genetic examination of the bones in the Etruscan tombs in 2004. The fact that the Etruscan people were Easterners was announced with the report prepared after the survey of the skeleton of 80 Etruscan people between the ages of 2700 and 2300 under the signatures of the genetics scientist..
continue..
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan dude i perfectly know about etruscs, and in no way they are related to turkics, stop changing words, they are maybe related to ANATOLIAN people, but anatolian is not turkic! and after all it's A THEORY! because at that time, there was no contacts between people that were that far from distance!
can your little brain understand this?
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
:)) Genetics is not a theory, we call it 'science' and everything can be clarified by science. I dont expect you to comprehend that cause you are a 87-idiot iq kurd:)))and these professors are not idiots, they spend their lives to search these issues.Only you 87 iq idiot kurds cant comprehend:))hahah
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan ok but i said that anatolian is not turkic :)))))))))
can you understand this? show me again that etrucs share turkic genetics, give me some proofs, you didn't give any.
bullshit :)
onlyme3960 1 month ago
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@onlyme3960
ca you see any anatolian word here : ''''The fact that those who founded the city of Rome were the Etruscan people and they were Turkic people was understood from the genetic examination of the bones in the Etruscan tombs in 2004. The fact that the Etruscan people were Easterners was announced with the report prepared after the survey of the skeleton of 80 Etruscan people between the ages of 2700 and 2300 under the signatures of the genetics scientist..''
Turoyan 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
seems like you have a comprehending problem, read what i wrote and try to analyse them or ask someone more intelligent than you to help you..
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan dude you make a big misconception here, in no way anatolia is turkic, etruscs may have anatolian origins, but don't forget that before ottomans, anatolia was mainly greek. people say that etruscs may have their origins from turkey, they refer to the geographical region and not to their people.
capito?
:)
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
:))) i am giving you scientifical sources here and you are talking about your emotions:)) i really dont want to waste time with you:))bye
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan the only thing i learned from you :
you say that anatolia is turkic, italia is turkic and that those turkic people migrated to central asia, in order to have today, those turkic countries? so for you all started in anatolia for turks? ahhaha
and no you didn't give me scientific sources, coz you are confounding turkey, anatolia and turks; geography, history and ethnicity.
for me you don't mix those things, it's not logical.
i hope you learned a new thing :)))
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
:)))) I admired your comprehending:))I gave you western sources which has the signatures of many european scientist and archeologist.You belive what you want to believe thats why all you said here were just your emotions:))Modern Turks and and Italians have nothing in common,because they are not even etruscan people.They speak indo-eu anguage not etruscan.These civilizations dissappeared but they were of Turanian origin of course.That's what science says not me.Dont be so jealous:)
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan scientists say they are from ANATOLIAN origin, not turanian
:))
you have a problem, you always mix anatolia and turks LOL
poor guy, like i said you must be schizophren to mix up common things like this.
anatolia =/= turkic
anatolia = turk from 1923, etruscs appeared in 1923 LOL
;)
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
during years many civilization migrated land to land.None of the europeans is native european.Sumerians were not native mesapotamian,hurrians were not native anatolian too,they all migrated from somewhere else. Turanian territory was expending from asia to europe,not only in middle asia.But allmost all ancient languages were agglutinative like Turkish, indo-eu languages are assimilated very young languages.
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan okay :) evryone is coming from turanian race! okay!
LOL, the first humans are turkic! okay! the oldest archeological proofs are turkic!
hahaha
:)
remember, people only lived 20-25 years at most, i don't see them making thousands of kilometers from east asia.
remember also that turks only came close to europe in 1300's, if they was there before 1300's then why didn't the autochtonous people speak turkic?
evrything is originated from turkics? right mister :)
onlyme3960 1 month ago
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Professor Guido BARBUJANİ from Ferrera University, Professor davit CARAMELLİ from Firenze University, Professor Loredana CASTRY from Bologna University, Professor Antonella CASOLİ from Parma University, Professor Francesco MALLEGNİ from Pisa University and Professor Carles LALUEZA from Pompeu Farba University in Barcelona Spain.=> these scientists dont know anything but you know :)))))))you are really funny:))
Turoyan 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
You are talking about Oghuz tribe of Turanians:))Yes Oghuz Turks came so lately to western side.But many of them had already been in west before Oghuz migration.I am talking about Turanians not Oghuz tribe of Turanians..
Turoyan 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
even today many scholars are using Turkish to connect ancient languages.Cause sumerians , etruscans and many civilizations collaped to asia and middle east, you can find 2000 common words only between Sumerian and Turkish while Turkish only has 120 common words with Mongolian language.You can also fidn Turkish Runes which is so similar to germanic, anglo-saxon and etruscan alphabets.Cause Turks didnt only live in asia but from asia to europe.
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan and when you quote a book, you give the title too, you didn't give any, just some names, so i ask you to give me the entire correct quotation of the book in which they say that etruscs have TURKIC origins and not ANATOLIAN.
give me the name of the book please, thanky ou :)
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@Turoyan in no way i try to confound mongols and turks, secondly, the runes all resemble it's because they couldn't write straight, that's why you have those circular writing and not linear
:)
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@Turoyan turkish language took his words from : arab, farsi and french.
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
:)) I am talking about grammar, agglutinative term is used for grammar:)) people can change different clothes but their dna doesnt change after changing clothes.. Turkish has an intelligent grammar. A persian proverb : ' Arabic is a language, Persian is eating a sweetmeat, Turkish is an art''
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan stop talking about your emotions :)))
for you it's intelligent grammar, for me it's poor vocabular leading to poor thinking ...
anyway centuries ago, people didn't have ferraris, you understand? even the known world was not more than the meditteranean pourtour for lot of people! for example america was discovered in 15th c. by columbus.
i don't think that turanians migrated to europe before the 1300's, very hard. like i told you, they didn't have same worldmap as us.
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
"The mythology of the Altaian Turks, for example, is so nearly identical with that of the early Scandinavians that some close association in the not far distant past is necessary. Furthermore, the ritual of the horse sacrifice is so integral a part of the religion of both Indo-European and Altaic-speaking peoples that recent diffusion alone cannot explain the identity." (Carleton Stevens Coon, The races of Europe, Greenwood Press, 1972 , p.179)
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan this is possible, yet it's in far north, there could have been exchanges with those nordic tribes and turanians, like today there are lot of turkic tribes in siberia.
but you must know that those nordic tribes didn't have exchanges with the southern european, the nordic tribes were considered as "barbares".
anyway your derailing, at to what historical do you refer? im refering to antiquity, where nordic people had no exchanges with southern european.
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
we have to dig the source of Turanians first. We could say that Turks were Mongolian origined but mixed with caucasians,but their language is almost completely different than Mongolians,even the most basic words like numbers dont match their languages while indo-european languages share many words.Altai language theory also rotten 50 years ago.That shows Turkish was an independed language.
Turoyan 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
But Turkish has many similarities with ancient grammars.And also when we look at the alphabet we cannot see similarities between Mongolian and Turkish. So we must search other possibilities.Turks were Caucasian origined people who mixed with Mongolians.Genetically and culturally this possibility seems more logical.Cause we can see more similarities nothern euro-asian civilizations and Turks.
Turoyan 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
when i say all these civilizations were Turkic or Turanian.I dont expect anyone to accept that cause modern Turks of Turkey are different people than Turanians.Of course modern germanics or italians are completely different people than us.I am not a wannabee.Modern Turks of Turkey are Anatolian and Turanian mixed people.But Turanians before islam is a mystery, there are many things are hidden.I just want truth about them.I dont care modern italians or germanics.
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan you have your point of view, i have mine, and according to mine turanians have not had influences on southern europe nor in anatolia, i know people that say hittites were turanians also, yet in their art there is nothing related to turanian, people say it because its in turkey today, but they forget that anatolia and southern asia was a lot influenced by caucasian and persian people (we can also put persian in the same category as caucasian, coz today they are all indo-eu.)
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
it depends how they define Turanians,cause i define them as 'caucasian' origined euroasian people.Otherwise it is a huge coincidence that Turks invented an agglutinative language and runic alphabet without any influence.People also forget that anatolian civilizations migrated from somewhere else.Anatolia was like a bridge that many civilizations passed like celtic Galatians, Caucasian Hurrians,persians ,hellens.. and even semitics.
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan for me there are 4 main points of early humanoids : america, africa, mesopotamia+soutern asia and northern-eastern asia.
I see turanians from eastern asia origin.
the language is not a coincidence but it has not influences, the runes are not coincidense also, coz the symboles are world wide symbols + people wrote the runes in hard material, not easy to do linear shapes.
its funny how u use eurasian, because eurasian is a mix of caucasian and asian.
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
so Turkish language was developed independedly without any influence?and Runes were also developed not coincedentally but without any influence??We must define 'coincedence ' then.Cause your words are in contrast.I ask this :from where Turks learn agglutinative language and runes??Did they develop them by themselves?Or why didnt they use Mongolian or chienese scripts and speak their language?Why their mythology and symbols look like northern and etruscans??
Turoyan 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
It is not true to be close minded possibilities,I prefer to give a chance to every possibility.Hittitians were Turanian or not, modern Turks are directly descendentd of native anatolians also.So nothing changes if they were Turanian or not.I dont agree with you about Hittitians and Turanians were not related about art cause 2 headed eagle was the symbol of Hittites and Turks.maybe it is a coincidence or not but it was common.
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan idk if i told u already but today's turkey, there are no pure turks, mustafa kemal gave the name of turkey, because he needed unity in order to make a country. I don't think anatolian people were related to turanians in any way, because those people only began to speak turkish in 1800-1900 (ottomans spoke arab mainly), and before ottomans people spoke either latin, greek or farsi.
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
i suggest you look at the old carpets in anatolia. You will see the turkish shamanic existence in the symbols.Also I know a little Greek,so i can say that there are many words in Greek Turkish origin.Especially old Greek people speak more Turkish words. You can see shadow-play theatre in Greece.I dont think that Turks spoke arabic or persian.It was only Ottoman government, but not people.
Turoyan 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
Atatürk believed that Trojans were also Turanian.Western world considered Trojans ' Turcus' people and the name of anatolia and even byzantine empire was 'Turcia'.This name comes from trojan king 'Bardanes Turcus'.So Atatürk didnt hesitate to choose Turk and Turkiye names for Turkey, cause Turk name was common name for an Anatolian civilizations/Trojans and Turanians, even if they were related or NOT.
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan okay dude, evryone is somewhat related to turks.
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@Turoyan ok you say that turanians influenced from west to east, but they just can't spread like that or else evryone is turanian then? no sense, turanian stopped with turkmenistan, look at turkey or azerbaijan, they have no turkic speaking neighbours.
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
Our ancestors are Turks who are comrades of Oden. We have got enough evidence on this subject. There are people who want to fool you into thinking they are Goths, or Tyrks. I don't care whether it will be discrediting for me or not. Oden and his comrades were Turks. « (Prof. Dr. Sven Lagerbring)
Turoyan 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
hahaha, dont steal my words:))) If you have something to say , give me some sources but I really am not interested your emotional opinions:))
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan and btw you don't mix historical times too. don't fall in the anachronism, because the oldest turkic runes are dated of 700 A.D..
etruscs alphabets (inspired from GREEKS) dated 1000 B.C.
german and other scandinavian : 200 B.C.
i see a difference of 900-1700 years!
onlyme3960 1 month ago
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@onlyme3960
"The Greeks equally owed many of their deities, and early arts, to the congers of the Tuskans in Asia Minor. The mythology of Etruria points to an Eastern, and to a Turanian, origin [...]" (J. G. R. Forlong, Encyclopedia of Religions or Faiths of Man, Teil 2, Kessinger Publishing, 2003, p.74)
Cant you see the reference and the name of the book here????
Turoyan 1 month ago
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@onlyme3960
"The great feature in the history of the Turanian races is that they were the first to people the WHOLE WORLD beyond the limits of the original cradle of mankind."
(Hodder M. Westropp, Handbook of Egyptian, Greek, Etruscan and Roman Archeology, Kessinger Publishing, 2003, p.482 f.)
Cant you see the reference here??it is very clear
Turoyan 1 month ago
@Turoyan and where do i talk about my emotions?
are you schizophren?
O.O
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@Turoyan when people say turkey, they don't automatically refer to TURKS but to the geographical area which turkey englobes, do you understand? and when your journalists say that etruscs have their origin from turkey, they mean the geographical region that turkey forms today, they don't refer to turks!
hahaha little girly trying to impress, go study a bit, you will open your eyes.
ps.: internet is not your best friend.
onlyme3960 1 month ago
@onlyme3960
2)under the signatures of the genetics scientist Professor Guido BARBUJANİ from Ferrera University, Professor davit CARAMELLİ from Firenze University, Professor Loredana CASTRY from Bologna University, Professor Antonella CASOLİ from Parma University, Professor Francesco MALLEGNİ from Pisa University and Professor Carles LALUEZA from Pompeu Farba University in Barcelona Spain.
Turoyan 1 month ago
eurasian and the rest of them look nothing alike,
Traces1000 1 month ago
Alleluia i'm in love 0:06.
joey143anna 1 month ago
cool story, bro.
hippiechickie18 1 month ago
I don't undersdtand a shit, but they look all very persian to me
fenotipobombay 1 month ago
ONLY TAJIKS INDO-EUROPEANS IN CENTRAL ASIA
camomilleable11 1 month ago