Texas 4 Tribute

[simon6071]

Former President George W, Bush did the right thing by commuting the prison sentences of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

A full pardon may seem more desirable but accepting a full pardon would mean admitting guilt which was wrongfully imputed on the border agents under the application of the United States Code Title 18 Section 924(c)(1)(a)(iii).

[parsonsmark]

When will Johnny Sutton's War on Law Enforcement end? Write the White House for a full pardon for these two agents.

Mark Parsons

President

Fraternal order of Police

Texas, Lodge #82

[simon6071]

Three members of the jury did the right thing when they signed an affidavit retracting their guilty decision after the covered-up evidence was exposed.

But the three judges in the court of appeal should be ashamed of themselves to have become obsequious minions of Johnny Sutton who willfully manipulated the law for political gain.

[tonyqs2]

This is another spit in our faces by this Bush (thing) to piss us off! Pure evil! Why did this happen; this 3rd world, kangaroo court, Bush appointed henchmen, railroad job? Why does Bush kiss the asses of Mexican drug cartels? If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck; it's a duck.

Google: Bush Brownsville Texas satanic cult murders 1984. DEA video of Jeb and George trafficking cocaine in 1985. Bush Zapata Oil laundering drug money. Bush crime family. Into the wilderness. Poppy Bush 1960.

[simon6071]

President Bush thinks that he has done nothing wrong even though more than a million Iraqis including women and children were killed due to his incursion into Iraq after his mistake that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. But then why he cannot forgive the two border agents who might have mistaken the drug smuggler to have a gun or really saw the drug smuggler holding something like a gun and only wounded him within the US border?

[simon6071]

Why Mr. Bush thinks it's OK for him to assume that the border agents had criminal motives in the shooting while he criticizes people for assuming that he had unjustified motives in the Iraq war?

Mr. Bush should pardon the two border agents to stop this travesty of justice.

As long as the border agents are in jail, they are proof of Mr. Bush's hypocrisy and bureaucracy.

[simon6071]

Today the appeal court releases its decision on the Compean and Ramos case.

Instead of giving the agents a retrial by jury or acquitting them, the judges uphold the sentences of mandatory 10 years in prison under the wrongful application of the United States Code Title 18 Section 924(c)(1)(a)(iii). The three judges err in the following respects:

[simon6071]

1/They wrongly rely their judgment on the questionable finding of the jury in the first trial that the shooting was unjustified, a finding which has not been proved beyond reasonable doubt as there was no way to confirm whether the drug smuggler really had a gun.

[simon6071]

2/Three members of the jury have signed an affidavit stating that they have changed their minds about the guilty verdict in view of new information which were suppressed. However, in the appeal report, the judges totally ignore this important change and based their appeal judgment erroneously on the fact "the jury chose not to believe the defendant", a fact which has been rendered obsolete and not applicable to the appeal case because of the change of mind of three members of the jury.

[simon6071]

3/ The judges fail to recognize the significance of motives for the shootings. While it is possible the shootings not be justified if the drug smuggler really had no gun, however, the shootings would not constitute criminal offences had the agents really mistaken the drug smuggler pointed a gun at them during escape.

[simon6071]

(Compare to the recent shooting to death of an unarmed man Sean Bell by the NYPD. The officers were found not guilty of any criminal offence based on the defense that they had mistaken the men in the car to have a gun.)

The three appeal judges' intentionally using of the obsolete decision of the jury in a previous trial as the basis for their decision in the appeal trial is a sign of their incompetence if not a sign of perversion of justice due to politics as many people suspect it could be.

[simon6071]

If it is true that "appeals courts aren't permitted to take into account that jurors changed their mind.", then a retrial by jury should be the right decision of the judges instead of using a fact that no longer valid to support their decision.

[simon6071]

Motive of the shooting is the most important issue in this case. If the agents had really said that they were going to "shoot some Mexicans", then I would agree that the shootings were criminal offences. However, that was just a lie by the DHS, so their probable motive would likely be related to doing their duty. Therefore, even if it had turned out they had mistaken the drug smuggler had a gun, the shootings should not be considered criminal offences.

[simon6071]

Of course only the drug smuggler knows for sure if he had a gun or not in this case and only the agents know for sure about their motives.

As there is no way to incriminate the agents beyond reasonable doubt, the verdict arrived by assuming the agents had criminal motive in shooting the drug smuggler is wrong.

[McCaintheLIBERAL]

GEORGE BUSH

" These 2 Bigoted Traitors are Racists, i feel great satisfaction knowing they are now being beaten and tortured in Prison , where if it were up to me, id have them Rot in there for the rest of their sick pathetic lives. HOW DARE THEY DEFY MY AGENDA OF fully merging Mexico and USA ? NO ONE DEFIES ME I AM KING GEORGE ! What i want i get .

I have a mssg. for their Families , They are suffering and in great pain, and this makes me GLAD , i REVEL in knowing this !

[McCaintheLIBERAL]

GEORGE BUSH

" These 2 Bigoted Traitors are Racists, i feel great satisfaction knowing they are now being beaten and tortured in Prison , where if it were up to me, id have them Rot in there for the rest of their sick pathetic lives. HOW DARE THEY DEFY MY AGENDA OF fully merging Mexico and USA ? NO ONE DEFIES ME I AM KING GEORGE ! What i want i get .

I have a mssg. for their Families , They are suffering and in great pain, and this makes me GLAD , i REVEL in knowing this ! I Rule you

[simon6071]

Today three NYPD officers were acquitted for killing an unarmed groom-to-be with 50 bullets. The officers were in plain clothes during the shooting. They mistook the man to be armed.

However, the two border agents got more than 10 years in jail for shooting at and one of them wounding a drug smuggler who had put up a fight and appeared to be armed when he was smuggling drugs.

The miscarriage of justice in both cases shows the problem is not in the law but in people who manipulate the law.

[simon6071]

What's happening to justice in America?

The illegal alien drug smuggler has admitted lying on the witness stand and in the last appeal hearing the judge said a decision on retrial would be given within two months.How come five months have passed but there is still no decision?

The longer the border agents are in jail under the false testimony of the lying witness,a rigged jury and application of the wrong statute,the more guilt Johnny Sutton is going to incur in this perversion of justice.

[simon6071]

Actually the hearing was four months ago. It was a miscalculation so I correct it.

How come the court doesn't correct its mistake?

[simon6071]

Does anybody know if there's going to be a retrial?

[simon6071]

The continuing long term incarceration of Compean and Ramos by the US Attorney Johnny Sutton under the devious application of a criminal law not applicable to this case and under the deliberate manipulation of evidence to the jury is a blatant violation of the 8th Amendment which forbids cruel and unusual punishment. Free Compean and Ramos.

[simon6071]

SamFisher4017, How would you like the Americans smuggle drugs into Mexico to "feed their family" in the US? What kind of family need multi-million dollars to feed? Gang family? If the drug smuggler had thought he was innocent,why did he put up a fight to escape? What's so innocent to take advantage of his immunity to smuggle more drugs? Are you really naieve enough to believe their prosecution and absurd jail sentence has nothing to do with politics?

[LetFreedomRing]

FREE RAMOS AND COMPEAN!! Exoneration and Compensation NOW! I'll continue wearing my yellow ribbon until the last of the Texas 4 are released!

[PatrioticDream]

Thank you Lili for this very moving tribute of our heroes!! Noe sent this to me and I will post on Save Our State. Noe is out; Brugman out; Gilmer out..now we need to keep the pressure on to get Ramos & Compean out! Keep the faith!!

[simon6071]

In the appeals hearing held today, the government admitted that its star witness,drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete Davila, lied on the witness stand. A wise move for the prosecution would be to drop the charges against the two border agents to avoid a new trial in which misconducts on the side of the prosecution are likely to be revealed. If a new trial is going to be held, the prosecution is going to lose because they do not have any reliable witness against the two agents at all.

[segar1234]

To this day the two border patrol agents

still remain in jail. Why? because Johnny

Satan I mean Sutan wanted his drug money.

I hope he goes down with discrace, and I hope

That the two agents come home. For Their

childeren. And for the Poeple that believe

Johnny suton's lies. May God Open your eyes

for the truth.

[alexalcatraz]

This murders need to pay for their crime and

I hope they get life in prison!!!! or if they don't hopefully God will never ever pardon them!!! and they go to hell!!!

[simon6071]

They did not commit murder. Murder is causing the DEATH of someone INNOCENT with an ILLEGAL motive. While their shooting may be misjudgment in using unnecessary force, it can no way be called murder. You are no God how do you know God will never pardon any body? Isn't it true that God is the one to judge who goes to hell? Lucky that you are no God because you are so corrupted with prejudice.

[alexalcatraz]

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[simon6071]

alexalcatraz, Don't play judge or God when you don't even have the basic intelligence to engage in a debate.

[alexalcatraz]

Listen! I know they did not commit murder but it's attempted murder! and that smuggler deserve the right to a fair trail. After all this is a country of laws right? and if you commit a crime then you have to face the consequences for their attemp in murder and not be protected like cowards from people that had nothing to do with their acts......Oh! and if I was god trust me no such people would live under my name you can be sure of that.

[simon6071]

alexalcatraz, Under the law drug smuggling is a felony equivalent to crime of violence. Officers are permitted by law to use firearms to stop a drug smuggler from escaping.If the drug smuggler had offered no resistance and did not attempt to escape at all but still got shot at, then I would agree it is attempted murder.But that was not the case.You're wrong. Only the two agents need a fair trial. The drug smuggler got a fair deal. He got immunity because of political interference from Mexico.

[Liliyflora]

Thank you simon607 for your support, the Compeans and their kids greatly appreciate your support, many are not as respectful to the laws that our forefathers of our country had established. What many fail to see is that he was bringing in drugs to our country and putting it into reach of our children.

[Liliyflora]

I, has a guardian to the Compean children, am proud that my brother in law stopped that illegal before he got to his "poor family" which he knowingly put into danger as soon as he agreed to bring in that first load. To the many supporters...Thank You and God Bless!

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[simon6071]

Liliyflora, You are welcome.I think of myself speaking for the truth instead of supporting any side. The truth in this case is that the two border agents were betrayed by people with selfish political agenda. Is there going to be a retrial for them? Please let me know if you know about this.

[simon6071]

The US politicians who allow the agents to be wilfully and wronfully convicted as felons or keep silent about this travesty of justice are the real cowards. Do you need to have anything to do with their acts to post here? Of course not. If you were God, I have no doubt that the two agents would have died in a wrongful dead. Thank God, you are no God.

[simon6071]

Border agents Compean and Ramos were wilfully and wrongfully charged under the United States Code Title 18 Section 924(c)(1)(a)(iii), which was enacted to punish criminals using firearms to commit crimes of violence or drug trafficking crimes. The statute was not enacted to punish law enforcement officers who have made procedural errors or misjudgment in carrying out their duties. Their convictions must be overturned to preserve the integrity of the judicial system.

[simon6071]

No presidential candidate who keeps silent about the Compean and Ramos case deserves to be the next President.

No presidential candidate who sees nothing wrong with the cruel and unusual punishment imposed on the two border agents under the wrong statute of the law deserves to be the next President.

We want a wise and brave leader, not a coward, to be the next President of the United States of America.

[2101320]

uummm i dont get it i live in texas but i never saw this?? but i also dont really pay attention ????

[tcannon4545]

for as much as we can blame this idiot, we must also thank bush for this, he could fix this if he was'nt such a smug little a------, I think forest Gump said it, when he said stupid is stupid does

[GloryRose]

Send Johnny Sutton to the ACLU and then send them all to Iran. They are all out to destroy this Great Country of ours. Call your elected officials daily about this matter and we WILL change these pitiful WRONGS.

[tigerlady1948]

This is one of the most outrageous cases of injustice that I have ever seen in my 83 years of living! I feel as if I'm living in an "Alice in Wonderland" world!!!

[t24max]

Fire Sutton! This is so unAmerican!! There are Heros! Sutton is Bushes buddy? I know a lot of people in Washington who need to be fired!!!

[chicagoray40]

Hang Sutton after they are finally released and vindicated.

This is Jorge Bush's little buddy so that's definitely making things worse for these Hero's release and pardon under his Illegal loving watch. And I voted for this man twice too. I'm pissed off like the rest of you as well..

[Robinhvidston]

God bless our heroes Ramos and Compean - we the people are fighting for your release!!!

[azhotgal]

I agree...Fire Sutton!

[FearlessAmerican]

Fire Johnny Sutton!