Remember that bit where it said a major university published Dembski? Specifically they mean his The Design Inference is published by Cambridge University Press. As scandalous as that will sound to anyone who thinks Dembski is full of nonsense, the question is what does it take to get published by CUP? Apparently, it doesn't take recognising "chance" is not a synonym for natural selection.
@TwoRavingPsychopaths I'd agree with that if "god" knows everything that will ever be, has ever been and is going on now, the he knew ahead of time humans would F-up, there fore he knowingly created humans to F-up. How is it free will when you creator, creates you knowing you will fail?
@RavenBlaze When your parents "created" you, they knew you would make mistakes, do things they wouldn't want you to do, and so on. I guess the difference is your parents didn't know specifics since they are not omnipotent. Even if they were, they probably wouldn't have aborted you. Another difference would be the fact that they didn't punish you for what other people did before you were born.
@cynisturb but my parents didn't call me to start wars, molest children, genocide millions, hold back science, kill their own creations, they did not knowingly make me one way and then tell others to kill me for the way they made me, they did not create me and then put photo's in my scrap book that others claim my parents put their to test me (fossils). They did not make me and millions of other "parents" and then expect me to follow only them.
If you're walking along the beach and you find a watch, you don't assume from it that the sand was intelligently designed.
PluralOfEverything 1 year ago 8
Remember that bit where it said a major university published Dembski? Specifically they mean his The Design Inference is published by Cambridge University Press. As scandalous as that will sound to anyone who thinks Dembski is full of nonsense, the question is what does it take to get published by CUP? Apparently, it doesn't take recognising "chance" is not a synonym for natural selection.
PokemonGoldenOldies 1 year ago
if "god hates the world" (a WBB sign) then why did he make it?
RavenBlaze 1 year ago
@RavenBlaze Because he's a sadistic, sociopathic, megalomaniacle spoiled brat.
TwoRavingPsychopaths 1 year ago
@TwoRavingPsychopaths I'd agree with that if "god" knows everything that will ever be, has ever been and is going on now, the he knew ahead of time humans would F-up, there fore he knowingly created humans to F-up. How is it free will when you creator, creates you knowing you will fail?
RavenBlaze 1 year ago
@RavenBlaze The answer is: Shut up, heathen, or we'll burn you.
TwoRavingPsychopaths 1 year ago
@TwoRavingPsychopaths more like "shut up, YOUR MAKING MY HEAD HURT!"
RavenBlaze 1 year ago
@RavenBlaze ''I'm gonna get this brain inside your skull, else my name isn't Smartass O'Neuron!''
TwoRavingPsychopaths 1 year ago
@RavenBlaze "How is it free will when you creator, creates you knowing you will fail?" answer. god is an asshole!
barakameek 1 year ago
@RavenBlaze When your parents "created" you, they knew you would make mistakes, do things they wouldn't want you to do, and so on. I guess the difference is your parents didn't know specifics since they are not omnipotent. Even if they were, they probably wouldn't have aborted you. Another difference would be the fact that they didn't punish you for what other people did before you were born.
cynisturb 1 year ago
@cynisturb but my parents didn't call me to start wars, molest children, genocide millions, hold back science, kill their own creations, they did not knowingly make me one way and then tell others to kill me for the way they made me, they did not create me and then put photo's in my scrap book that others claim my parents put their to test me (fossils). They did not make me and millions of other "parents" and then expect me to follow only them.
This is not a fair comparison.
RavenBlaze 1 year ago