Grandmaster Samuel Kwok demonstrating footwork

[ShaderockLouis]

I too agree that the teacher here is establishing position and remains true to WC;I remark as a vedry new student who will imploy Wing Chun in my boxing career.Blessed all who value the arts thanks

[mchang51]

well yeah -

you have to rep it -

like boxing -

[TheFlowMeister]

Tan sau, pak sau, step, punch. Job done :)

[minasz]

Still I ask myself you have all kind of styles in MMA fights. From Karate to wrestling and Jiu Jiutsu. And all show their usefullness. I never seen one WC guy in MMA. Dont give me that WC is for the streets cuz all arts are for the streets. Karate and its open hands techniques are also for the streets, Jiu Jiutsu and its chokes and breaking joints are also for the streets. Still they do MMA and R proof that it works. WC in 2010 and up..hmm I have my doubts. Im not hating, just asking...

[ukdstrawdog]

@minasz There are a great many very effective fighting arts, both weapon based and empty handed, that aren't seen in MMA (or whose techniques aren't immediately apparent as being used) but this does not mean they are ineffective.

Wing Chun is also a very new art to the West, in terms of its main stream presence and uptake, especially compared with the likes of Roman-Greco wrestling and other Eastern arts like Jiu-Jitsu and Karate that are commonly seen in MMA bouts.

[ukdstrawdog]

I believe it also suffers due to a considerable part of its focus being on precise strikes (finger strikes, phoenix eye, knife edge, palm strikes, elbows, etc.) to vulnerable areas (throat, eyes, temple, solar plexus, kidneys, bladder, etc.) whereas the vast majority of MMA is still very focused on grappling and boxing based arts (somewhat in part due to the limited hand techniques that are pratical when wearing mitts and the restrictions on the types of strikes allowed).

[soljahofislam]

@ukdstrawdog krava maga, also isnt seen to much in mma, but it is effective

[bigglue69]

@minasz

I am not hating either, but offering a bit of advice, take it with a grain of salt. Perhaps you would do well to attend a wing chun school. Open hands, wing chun has that, it is not strictly fists by any means. As for jiu jiutsu and the grappling arts, all the wrist turnings you see are anti-chin na techniques, wing chun contains defensive/offensive teks to each combat system that you mentioned. I hope that this helped, no hate here. Just jump into a good Wing Chun school and try.

[Melv666]

@minasz ..With respect..If ur in Wing Chun personally,then u will finally understand why it is not in MMA....

[Improv247]

@minasz styles such as Krav Maga, Escrima are also very effective but you don't see them in the MMA scene. These style, including WC, rely on disabling their opponent in the quickest way possible. And to do so, you need to strike vital areas where most are banned in the MMA scene. Jabbing someone in the eye will result in a relatively short fight but you can say goodbye to MMA's sponsors as it just turned into a blood sport. Do you see MMA being used in the army? Same idea.

[cornwallgeezer]

What he is doing is setting up his attack with anticipation and correct timing.

Allowing him to pass to take a new centre line angle and most importantly defending himself first while putting the opponent in a huge disadvantaged position.

Now he can strike anywhere using the six gates principal thus creating more opportunity to attack safely. I think too many teachers tend to tell you to block the incoming punch, why not shift and let him pass if you have the chance?

He's not giving up space!

[jpsandberg]

He gives up space, his facing and continuous fwd energy in the first move by stepping offline from the incoming attack. Therefore, giving up the first main principle of WC - Centerline. From there, it's going to be a game of speed and catch-up.

[ukdstrawdog]

@jpsandberg Wing Chun avoids meeting force with force. An important principle is that you go with what comes and follow what goes - basically meaning that when force attacks you avoid/deflect/manipulate it and when it retreats you follow it back. A good example of this is the Bong Sao block which folds under the weight of an attack thereby redirecting the energy rather than meeting the strike with a clash of arms where strength would be a much more important factor than technique/body mechanics.

[jpsandberg]

@ukdstrawdog Does "Avoid force with force" also mean running away from the punch and giving up Centerline BEFORE any contact is even maid? Because that's what he's doing in the first engagement. He's moving to the side (giving up space) before any contact is even made. What you're talking about should only pertain to what happens AFTER the bridge is made..

[ukdstrawdog]

@jpsandberg Most people consider avoiding being hit by a punch a good thing - if you define that as 'running away' is up to you.

I don't think you understand the centreline principle if you believe it means you stay static and just defend/attack/counterattack from your original position. You will notice that as master Kwok moves he turns so that his energy is still directed into the central mass of his attacker (this time at a 45 degree angle) - this move and turn happens as the punch is thrown,

[kelly980]

@jpsandberg I cannot explain how stupid a comment that is. i'm guessing you don't do much sparring if you think its wrong to side step when someone comes in to hit you.

[Jenuya]

@jpsandberg I don't think you understand the centre line concept fully. It is not staying facing the centre of your opponent, it is the centre of you facing the opponent from any angle. If you think about it from an army perspective, why would you send your troops to the centre of their battle line when you could centre your battle line around their flanks?

[CarterMvp]

@jpsandberg

U don't understand the centerline principle. Go look up further info. or go into any wing chun school (modified or traditional) they'll show you.

[jasma98]

@jpsandberg Actually everything you say there is incorrect, but that's not important. What is important is the work master Kwok does to spread the word of wing chun. He has equipped himself with over 40 years of wing chun experience learning from both Ip Chun and Ip Ching as well as regularly communicating with knowledgeable masters around the world. Trust me. Master Kwok understands centre line theory. Having said that, he is always willing to learn so if you think you can teach him...

[hulkout666]

A true master. Samuel Kwok spends his time training and teaching rather than bickering about lineage and politics and other bullshit. He's very humble and respectful unlike a few other Wing Chun guys I can think of.

[Rasterash]

samuel kwok your an inspiration!!

thanks colne wing chun club