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  • Drums are nice and tight!

  • There back!!

  • This was my favorite Christian song when I was a teen, showed it to my mates at church... I bought the album, I looove the lyrics "The rains came down"

    That was until I become an atheist and now its sad hear bands waste there time singing to nothing.

  • @truckcompany

    We've got a lot in common it seems like. Accept I decided to stay in love with Jesus. May I ask what caused you to no longer believe?

  • @timmynovinger

    Many things, deconversion is a very complicated process and everyday I try to figure out what happened to me. I basically had a drive to test my current beliefs, if I didn't, I would feel extremely guilty for not being honest with myself. Not believing in God was the result of many things I slowly stopped believing such as Creation Science, Miracles, Bible Inerrancy, Personal Revelation etc. Up to the last days I ALWAYS thought I'd be a Christian forever, it creped up on me

  • @truckcompany

    I definitely understand. Like how when you can't fall asleep at night and you're praying for God to make your body sleep and He doesn't and you ask, "why?" Or how I've never known God's will for my life concerning direction, where to go, what career to pursue, where to go to church . . . But I'll tell you that I'm 23 and I've never kissed a girl. (obviously I'm a virgin) It's hard not knowing where "the one" is for me but I have a peace, knowing she'll come into my life when

  • @truckcompany (part 2). . . when God thinks we're ready for it. The reward will be so much greater. It's like wine. The sweeter it will be the longer it rests and waits for the right time. I know what it's like to not just doubt personal revelation, but to not get it, but. . . Maybe I'm not ready for that. For whatever his reasons, I just need to wait and be patient. Anyway, thanks for answering. I enjoyed hearing from you.

  • @timmynovinger

    Sounds like you don't understand. The struggle with personal revelation wasn't why God didn't answer some of my prayers (Im sure he had his reasons). It was, when God did answer my prayers, how would I know it was God acting on those prayers, as opposed to it happening anyway. If I prayed "God lead me to an empty carpark" Im sure you and most sane Christians would agree that it wasnt really God, even If I asked for it. I would feel guilty if I believed God answered my prayers....

  • @truckcompany

    Oh I see now. Haha. Yeah I've felt that. Feeling like He is answering prayers but in the end you can't be sure. Or thinking you hear his voice in your conscience but maybe it's just you? Unfortunately, yeah a lot of Christians don't understand their own walk much less anyone else's yet they pretend to. I hope the best for you.

  • @timmynovinger

    So to cope with this, I stopped believing God had answered my prayers. Instead I thought, maybe it was God, maybe it wasnt God, only God can know for certain. Remember, I was still a Christian for the next 10 years after this. At the time, I assumed I was growing in my faith, like many current Christians that view personal revelation in the same way. Looking back now (unknown at the time), this was actually a contributing factor in my De-conversion.

  • @truckcompany

    If I prayed "God lead me to an empty carpark"

    Is suppose to read.

    If I prayed "God lead me to an empty carpark" and then it happened,

  • This song is amazing beautiful there is so much emotion into it and energy and the dudes voice is like smooth sweet

  • his voice is cool 

  • these guys were too far underrated....

  • is this a christian band>>??oh great!!

  • Also there are alot of things the media hides from us. The media is all opinionated and is a one sided story. To find the truth we have to go out and find it ourselves. People say the government runs a nation when in fact its the media that does.

  • Happy Deluge Day! 2-17!

  • This is where I was in the year 2000... And this was some of the softer stuff I was digging. Really into Project 86 then and as recently as two years ago.... Some things in my life have def changed but this bright and shiny happy song still brings a smile to my face.

  • I miss these guys they refused to be like every other christian band.

  • they were great in concert too )

  • Sex is ment to be between a man and a woman its only natural any other kind of sex other than between these two is completely wrong and unnatural.

  • @kimori676 Animals? its wrong and unnatural for... animals?

  • @EXTREMEPSYKOCITY Thats because animals only having basic instincts. Which are as follows eat, sleep, migrate, and mate. Also animals dont know any better so that doesn't bother me. But the homosexuallity of mankind is just unnatural. So my argument and opinion stands as is. As far as being homosexual its a choice not genetics or any of that happy horse shit, its a choice. However what people choose to do with their lives is their choice to make not mine, but we are untitled to our own opinion.

  • the science in the world has proven everything in the bible is true so far. But mankind will never know everything. As for gays I would think that having a dick rammed in the ass would be painful as hell and as for dykes wouldn't you rather feel a real mans penis than some rubber plastic or whatever the hell dildo's are made of rammed in your holes risking having tiny lacerations and all kinds of other shit in there.

  • @kimori676 Lol, right on. I never got that shit either...

    Lesbo's get their jolly's off with that shit, they love stuff shoved up there, but when it comes to a man, they'll pass.

  • @whoohaaXL I agree and I think reason for homosexuality is from some sort of sexual abuse from the opposite sex. For example if a girl is abused or raped at any point in her life by a man she programs that into her mind that men aren't to be trusted so they resort to women. Same thing with boys and contrary to popular belief yes men get abused and raped too. You just don't hear about it.

  • @everyone

    This is what I hate see. Hostility and ignorance from BOTH ends. This is why people don't like "us" Christians. We're not to judge, or force our opinions on anyone. Same goes both ways. I see this kind of crap all the time and it needs to stop. Why can't we agree to disagree, just like it's always been? This is why people always say to leave Politics and Religion out of everything. Nobody can seem to be civilized. Let's all grow a pair and and like adults, shall we?

  • this shit is fucking ass-rapingly gay, damn.

  • this just brings back good memories man

  • @SunsetEuphoria completely agree

  • i saw them once at a church. they played a few songs and then a girl in the crowd had a seizure so the concert was cancelled :/ Somehow I feel like I saw them at another show though....anyway this video was one of the first i saw back when i was really little ha ha

  • HAHA!!!!!!! I remember this song from YEARS AGO!!!!!! Haha, my sis and i used to dance to this and my brother wud make fun of us! :o) <3 good memories!

  • Great track !!!!!

  • sadly these guy came a little too late to ride the millinum boom. so once the world didn't end lots of christians felt betrayed . and renouced ccm and christain rock

  • one of the best Live bands i've ever seen!!!

  • 311 is a mild houvredour compared to other groups and just because you went christian don't me you have to give up your previous life and likes. some of the best christans i knew were dihard manson fans but they were at the chapel every sunday and even helped with the missionary work

  • Great band! Too bad I found them after they split. I was a hardcore 311 fan for the longest time. But then I gave my life to Christ last February and I have completely stopped listening to 311 because of the lyrical content. One thing I loved about 311 was their sound. Because of 311, I picked up a bass guitar 7 years ago. I love how there was a Christian band with the Reggae Funk Rap Rock mix. Wish there was another one like them!!

  • @jmcmahan15 But not all 311 songs have 'bad' lyrical content. But to each his own.

  • @jmcmahan15 .. im so glad you gave ur life to god.. this is one of the best bands ever.. and i was so saddened they broke up.. i had th epleasure of meeting and seeing them a couple times... great band.. rockn music.. i too loved 311... but its such a different scene

  • hey everyone! check out the pax217 fan page on facebook!

    if we get over 1000 fans, the band has agreed to start a reunion tour! no joke!!

    i can't post the link, but look it up on facebook and help this band get back together!

    it's the fan page PAX217 all one word

    thanks!

  • saw these guys when they were nobody playing my youthgroup concert event, i was literally standing right next to them rocking out to their first album. So sick, they should've been a lot bigger sucks they were so underrated.

  • This album is sold on Itunes for anyone actually willing to buy it. It's only like $10. so pretty cheap.

  • Awesome song and video.............and I always thought the girl in this was a cutie!

  • nice pax...

  • "i have no life or purpose so i go on youtube and bash peoples faith" is what i hear

  • Such A Good guitar Player

  • Classic.

    Not as legendary as DC Talk...but theese boys were the precursor for P.O.D. and the like.

  • yeah, they were a good 3 years after P.O.D., P.O.D. started in 1992 and PAX217 started in 1995

  • @sfdjsf - thats true but not with the rasta sound. back in 1995 POD was barley getting into things like BROWN and they were just comming out of a more punk sound. I was there in SD for 18 yrs and followed POD everywhere.. Now Pax217 was more like 311 had a very tight sound compaired to POD IMHO, not that POD was bad or anthing its just Im convinced that Pax217 talent wise (they were kids) was better sounding than POD back in the mid 90s.

  • anyone know where i can find a torrent for their discography?

  • itunes

  • Eh... maybe limewire, but looking at the number of views on this video, this band isn't very popular to everyone else. But if I can get my hands on the CD i'll hit you up.

  • whoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    viva Pax

  • Wow this song & vid takes me back to my early walk w/ Christ, LOVE IT! I saw these guys w/ P.O.D. & The Roosevelts back in '99 lol great show!!!

  • come on people open the prizm....

    down from the heavens to cleanse you and I yah da do

    "The rains came down the floods went up"

    Open the flood gates and let the people in!! LOVE THIS SONG!!!! I have seen them soo many times woohoo PAX217!!!

  • so basically David and Aaron are my cusins....yea youre jelous!

  • I almost go to see them back in 2004 on the Festival Con Dios tour at our church but couldn't because my parents had guest from church coming over.

  • Awesome song wish they would reunite.

  • If I was one of you sheep that watches the mainstream media and gets completley swayed by this propaganda bullshit, I would blow my fucking brains out. You people need to wake the fuck up. If the government is about to do something major, like this, you need to ask yourself why?? And don't look for the answer on the fucking television.

  • uhm, considering alot of us, rip music and download off "illegal" sites we don't really care. we're not paying them, we're just listening for free. this isn't even mainstream anyways... if you wanna talk mainstream thats like... bands like nickelback, the shit ones.

  • Wow, as a preteen this is one of the first bands I ever got into. I saw them live on a youth trip when i was like 12!! I didn't cherish it as much as I would now, being 19 and respecting music in general so much more now. I miss you, Pax217. :(

  • this is the only album i ever got from pax 217

  • You should get Engage. It rocks.

  • brings back good memories !! man i miss this music !!!! ... the lyrics remind me of noahs ark and at how the end God promises a rainbow ^^

  • not as good as 311...this was their first single ever. they grew from there ;p

  • its basically talking about  freedom

  • what the hell is this song about

  • jesus loves gays and straights cuz jesus is not a hater

  • they sound a lot like 311, but not as good.

  • i love this band as much as the song. i also like AM. and itmakesmewanadance, your right i miss this band

  • i miss this band. avner is just not the same :(

  • They're like a Christian version of 311 and Zebrahead. Most importantly though they are Christians : )*

  • @jet79637 you're gay.

  • @okcomputer1016 I made the comment over a year ago and the fact that you're just commenting on it now shows how much of a life you have. Calling me gay? What are you an infant? Is this highschool? You might as well call me a poo poo face and attempt to take a toy away from someone because you haven't grasped the concept of sharing.

  • @jet79637 i am indeed an infant. i'm a really really smart one though because i can type and because i'm smart enough not to believe in god or listen to gay music like you do. i have not grasped the concept of sharing. you are a homo. and by the way, you made this comment a year ago? who gives a fuck? a year ago, you were a different person?

  • @okcomputer1016 lol See you still haven't grasped the concepts of Christianity yet, we're against homosexuality. As far as being smart enough not to believe in God, guess we'll both see in the end eh? I'll let you have the last words, I'm sure they'll be profound. hahaha

  • @jet79637 being against homosexuality is what makes you all terrible people. love thy neighbor eh? christians are some of the most hateful people. go fuck yourself.

  • @okcomputer1016 God annihilated two cities for homosexuality does Sodom and Gamora ring any bells. Til this day those areas where those cities once stood are still radioactive and uninhabitable. Because, God basically nuked them for being homosexual.

  • I own both of their full length albums. They were a stepping stone in the evolution of Christian rock at the start of the 21st century. They left too soon.

  • @jet79637 please don't insult 311 and zebrahead like that

  • @JPPraterCO08 Now days my comment is more of an insult to PAX because the other two's most recent albums are crap.

  • @jet79637 Nah, the newest 311 is great. Zebrahead has sucked since like 2003. Pax sounds more like POD.

  • this is still a beast song!!!! XD

  • That whole album was epic. I still jam to it. Anyone else see any 311 Soundsystem influences in the tone?

    PAX217 rocks

  • dude you like wrote exactly what I was going to write lol...love this album!!!  still jam to it!!! and totally hear the 311 soundsystem (my fav 311 album) influence.

    get out of my head gottabtru1!!!!!! lol

  • Got to see them open for Skillet back in 2000!! Awesome show even though it was in a college gym...BAD acoustics.

  • These guys didn't get nearly the popularity they deserved.

  • @Rawkfist1993 to true man

  • I am remember them playing at Saddleback church's undergrad nite back in 1999 when I heard them for the first time, great memory!

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  • their drummer goes by the name squid. is it the same squid that plays in Hawk Nelson??

  • Yeah, Aaron "Skwid" Tosti played with Hawk Nelson from 2005-2007.

  • PAX factoid: The singer and drummer are brothers. Anywho, what a great band.

  • This song/band holds a special place in my heart b/c when I first heard of them it was a very special time in my life!

  • Me 2 :D

  • I played in a band that opened for them in 2000 when they were together. They were cool guys.

  • i seen them at a little concert years ago theyre so amazing live! so much better wish they still did concerts..at least i dont think they do

  • i've been lookin 4 this song 4 like 3 years... I'M SO GLAD I FOUND IT.

  • it's really funny cuz my youth pastor took my brother and friends to one of pax 217's concerts and a little while after that, david and his wife ali and 2 little kids started coming to my church now. they're the sweetest people ever

  • HAha

    Bom demais!!!

    Amazing.

  • Love it

  • eluno333 BLIND&DUMB is no way to walk around in life. EDUCATE YERSELF!

  • ya never heard of 311. besides everyone sounds like something else. its just the way things work-nothing is completely original since we learn from observing. this is one of my favorite songs that will just randomly pop into my head once in a while. not a lot of songs can do that. ps-i couldnt find any info saying David Tosti did any of those things.

  • You never heard of 311? Dude, get out of the Christian bubble.

  • Perhaps "you" should get into the Christian bubble! Pax 217 is different enough from 311 especialy when 217 became popular at least 4 years after 311 had there 1 or 2 big songs. Pax 217 easly out shines 311 in talent anyway.

  • i've never heard them on the radio so sorry i cant magically know every band on the planet

    ps-this is the only song i have ever heard by Pax217--it was on the top 10 music videos years ago. in reality i need to get back into my so called 'Christian' music bubble because i hardly listen to any except the classics Rebecca St. James, Jars of Clay, & Newsboys. but then there are the crossover artists but they arent in the bubble any longer so they're out.

  • lol i remember my christian friends listening to this shit. they suck compared to 311

  • I like Pax but I agree, 311 is better. They came up with the style first.

  • Although I can't pinpoint any exact Pax song that sounds like 311, their first cd obviously had a similar sound to them. i.e. the rap/rock/reggae groove. the only think missing is funk, which Pillar had on their first major album.

  • my brother loved this song back when he was in high school such a long time ago too.

  • Una de las primeras bandas que escuche!..son la neta!.....fueron mis origenes!

  • Will always remain my favorite band!!!

  • i like this! :)

  • I love the band, but they're NOT so original soundwise...it's obvious that they liked 311 a LOT!...everybody knows who 311 is right?...

  • I've heard a lot of 311 songs. i dont think they sound alike.

  • naw, trust me... im a huge 311 fan i have heard all their songs and these dudes def bite of their style. listen to the song AM ... come on! peace

  • a tiny bit but i still dont think they ripped off

  • they are similarly sounding i love 311 and i think this band i pretty good well was back then, i just didnt like when they ranted agaist 311 kinda made me mad

  • what'd they say?

  • o something about since they say about smoking and stuff which should really matter because its about the music i dont smoke and i love 311 so you know its not an excuse to bad mouth them

  • I agree. 311 is one of my favorite bands and I don't smoke like they do but I love their music. That's what it's all about, at least it should be.

  • I agree. I don't smoke or agree with their lyrics sometimes, but 311 is a great band with awesome music and grooves, and that's all that should matter.

  • I've been looking forever for this!!!

  • i love this band. miss them alot..

  • sta chevere

  • come on people open!!!!!!!

    od i love these guys!!!! miss them alot!

  • I like that bass

  • Gotta love Pax. And yes, that was a terrible pun.

  • This band had one of the most unique sounds of anything I have ever heard! Rap/Reggae/LA Rock all rolled into one! Wow!

  • hella miss this band! thanks to the awesome person who posted this video!

  • disbanded..wer r u pax217,unique style of music..not common likt the others

  • Prism one of my favorite

  • pax217 waz an amazing band, i met them at alive fest in ohio. its too bad they had to break up

  • I love this song! i wish i could get an MP3

    of this song nice vid BTW ^_^.

  • if you want this as an mp3 you can download limewire and search for this song on that program, or you can go to vixy. net (<--no space) and download the video as a mp3 or just as a video.

    the song is pretty nice :]

  • Thanx alot! ^_^

  • no problem, hope you got it somehow. i know what its like to be stuck without help :]

  • Oh, and Aaron "Skwid" Tosti, their old drummer is now the drummer for Hawk Nelson.

  • ah that sucks :/

  • Hey guys, my best friend is Josh Auer(bass player)'s nephew and they were all getting married and they decided that touring all the time wasn't the lifestyle for their families. Anyway, Josh is touring with Number On eGun right now. But his band is called Avner as many of you prolly know and that band is 3 former Pax217 members.

  • i´m really sad that they broke up! why did they stop!? they´re soo good! anybody who knows why they did?

  • probably because they werent popular enough and people didnt support them enough :/ im one of those at fault. they used to be one of my favorite bands then i just forgot about them. hopefully they come back again :]]

  • nah they stopped because the touring lifestyle was hard on the families jus like musicalspoons said, it waz bobby that quit first, then tito, then everyone agreed that it waz time to call it quits.

  • ah i see, that sounds a little more accurate lol.

    yeah i agree with you also on the p.o.d. comment too. im a fan of both bands too, but theyre both great

  • They need to come back. why did they break up anyway?

  • I don't know if this ultimately led to the breakup, but Dave was having a struggle with pornography and it was putting a strain on his marriage. David even had a personal site up and an article titled "Porn Sunday". The touring lifestyle made it harder to avoid this temptation. If you don't believe me, look it up. Pax was in the process of writing their 3rd album but they abruptly broke up. I wish they would have at least finished it before calling it quits. Dave has a photography site now.

  • which one's dave?

  • Dave is the singer. The one in the red shirt with the dreads.

  • oh, that's nice. (sarcastic) idk if i should keep them on my favorites.

  • Why not? Hey man, no one's perfect. Are you Christian? Do you know the message of Christ? This little thing called forgiveness. Everyone has their vices.

  • I always thought that PAX217 brought an element that P.O.D. didn't. The Melodic singing I believe is or has made a difference; it's what I think is the distinction between them P.O.D.

    I really miss what PAX217 was doing

    they are still a great band of the past and this as well is an awesome song...very good yes.

  • hey man, pax IS awesome, but p.o.d. has so many more things that pax didnt...im a huge fan of both and its sad that pax had to call it quits. Pax didnt connect with the fans the way p.o.d. does, not to say that pax is ungrateful, i met them at a music fest and they were awesome! but like i said, p.o.d. just connects with the fans in a way that ive never seen before

  • i saw these guys back in arizona 2 times back to back 2000 and 2001 they were frigin awesome

  • My friend caught a pick that the guitarist therw

  • awesome song!!! hate the vid. they could hav done better on that and that's my only complaint...

  • thanks for posting this video..this was a great band

  • I was really good friends with this band.

    Really makes me sad to know that they'll never b e together again =/

  • Never? Why not? I hope there wasn't a tragedy in this band that I didn't hear about! Always liked these guys a lot.

  • I saw them live. So much fun.

  • Its sad how pax never got big 4 how awesome they were

  • That's what happens when you pidgeonhole yourself in the "christian music" subgenre.

    It's called MARKETING people, come on.

  • Such a great song.

    A blessing.

  • this is a great song by an awesome band.

  • oh and i forgot to mention, they also sound like p.o.d.

  • Really? Never really thought they sounded like them.........POD is definitely harder rocking........Pax 217 always reminded me of a Christian 311.

  • i heard this from my friends who listens to christian music, and they have been a BIG influence to me(my friends), this is just one of the bands they listen to, and christian bands rock

  • A truly great band. Individually freakishly talented, collectively awesome. We miss you! Much love from all the way out here in the Philippines.

  • Yep. They ROCK!!!

  • AWESOME!! Thanks 4 vid!God bless you;)

  • beginning stolen from gone in 60 seconds ;)

  • yup pax 217 memories man still rock you can catch me on the street with my windows down still rocking out to them

  • idol ni dadhong!!!

  • THESE GUYS ROCK! aaaaaaah....so many memories!

  • nice vid,very spiritual and metaphoric.very much hindu