@yesspam Palestine is the Western world's name for the Holy Land /the Land of Israel. The names are all synonymous. "Palestine" had never been an independent country. The last independent country on the land (with a seat of government in the land) was the Jewish nation of Judea, destroyed by the Romans in the year 70. The population at that time, mostly Jewish, was around 2- million, and afterwards dwindled to around 267,000 b until the 1800s (ctd)
The land had been under the rule of the Ottoman Turkish Empire for the past 500 years. There had never been an Arab country ruling in Palestine. There was around a hundred years of Arab rule from abroad, but Palestine was never considered an Arab country. In the 1800s, as the Ottoman Empire was falling apart, economic conditions began to improve slightly in Palestine and Arabs began migrating for work. When the Zionists began building in the land, Arabs came to find more work.(Ctd)
@yesspam pt 3 The San Remo Resolution created Palestine as a country for the first time in history, but it was the reconstitution of the Jewish Commonwealth, not an Arab State. Most Arabs who, since the late 60s began calling themselves Palestinian, didn't arrive in Palestine until the years of the Mandate (1922-1948). I'm sorry, but the Arabs have been rewriting history. Take a look at the historical documents. The Legend of the great Arab Nation of Palestine is a myth, & the world believes it
The Mandates were just a legal tool for ensuring indigenous populations were given autonomy in their respective territories. The Mandates system was nothing more than a legal contract obligating already existing powers to serve as “big brothers” for setting up these countries. Feisal could not have created a Mandate for Palestine. He had no legal ability to do so. As a matter of fact, Feisal rejected the Mandate for Syria, and that's why the French threw him out.
...However, It was ultimately up to the Supreme Council of the Principal Allied Powers (Britain, France, Italy, and Japan) to decide what to do with the territories. The League of Nations gave its full blessing for the decisions, but they had nothing to do with the legally binding nature of the 14 Mandates the victorious allies created.
The Mandates were just a legal tool for ensuring indigenous populations were given autonomy in their respective territories...
The French & British were given the task to administer the Mid East Mandates, & they certainly had imperialist intentions in the Mid East, but Italy & Japan (the other 2 allies) had nothing to gain in any “imperialist” respect in the Middle East when deciding to create the Mandates for Syria, Mesopotamia, & Palestine. The agreement to create these small independent countries was reached at the Paris Peace Conference with the support from delegates from around the world.
The Arab Jewish Agreement obligated the Hedjaz, whom Feisal represented in the agreement to implement the 1917 British Foreign Policy statement known as the Balfour Declaration. The Balfour Declaration was the Basis for the San Remo Resolution and the Mandate for Palestine: To put “into effect the declaration…adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people…”
Your observation that the Arab-Jewish Agreement created the Mandate for Palestine and "not on some imperialist's decision made in San Remo," is dead wrong. No Arab nation had legal title to Palestine. It had belonged to the Ottoman Turkish Empire which ceased to exist following World War I. The former Ottoman Middle East had been conquered by the victorious Principal Allied powers, to whom legal title was then transferred. Only the allies could make that decision.
That agreement, known as the Feisal-Weitzmann Agreement, is significant because it showed Arab support for returning Palestine to the Jews. It also showed that Arabs did not consider the prior existence of a country or territory called "Palestine." The Arabs considered it a part of southern Syria, and Syria's new leader, Feisal, supported giving it to the Jews.
Your comments show that you do not grasp what the Mandates were and how they were established.
No, you're wrong. As early as 1918 there was already a verbal agreement about who would administer which Mandates in the MidEast. The Arab-Jewish Agreement was not a treaty. There was not yet a sovereign Jewish State when the agreement was signed on Jan 3, 1919. Therefore, the Zionists, at the time, did not have legal capacity to enter into a treaty.
Feisal signed the Agreement on behalf of the newly established Kingdom of Hedjaz (soont o become Saudi Arabia).
Tragic mistakes that kills Israel. The Mandate has nothing to do with San Remo conference that was in 1920, while Mandate for Palestine was written and issued on July 24 1922 in London
The Mandate for Palestine was issued based on the ARAB–JEWISH TREATY, 1919, not on some imperialist's decision made in San Remo. Therefore the Jews are NOT invaders and occupiers of Palestine, but the rightful owners of all Palestine.
The San Remo conference basically decided that Israel should exist as a State BASED ONLY on a Biblical Scripture. THE ONLY NAtion on earth based on a biblical scripture. This makes the State of Israel a crusader nation. It has equal legitimacy as the crucaders who wanted a christian nation simply based on scriputres. Many international laws areIll conceived. Palestine should have been a COMPLETELY SECULAR state. The only Way to peace is through the creation of a new SECULAR state.
I love the way that Zionists can simultaneously argue that there was never any such place as Palestine, but that all of it belongs to them.
yesspam 3 months ago
@yesspam Palestine is the Western world's name for the Holy Land /the Land of Israel. The names are all synonymous. "Palestine" had never been an independent country. The last independent country on the land (with a seat of government in the land) was the Jewish nation of Judea, destroyed by the Romans in the year 70. The population at that time, mostly Jewish, was around 2- million, and afterwards dwindled to around 267,000 b until the 1800s (ctd)
iitvNews 3 months ago
@yesspam Pt2.
The land had been under the rule of the Ottoman Turkish Empire for the past 500 years. There had never been an Arab country ruling in Palestine. There was around a hundred years of Arab rule from abroad, but Palestine was never considered an Arab country. In the 1800s, as the Ottoman Empire was falling apart, economic conditions began to improve slightly in Palestine and Arabs began migrating for work. When the Zionists began building in the land, Arabs came to find more work.(Ctd)
iitvNews 3 months ago
@yesspam pt 3 The San Remo Resolution created Palestine as a country for the first time in history, but it was the reconstitution of the Jewish Commonwealth, not an Arab State. Most Arabs who, since the late 60s began calling themselves Palestinian, didn't arrive in Palestine until the years of the Mandate (1922-1948). I'm sorry, but the Arabs have been rewriting history. Take a look at the historical documents. The Legend of the great Arab Nation of Palestine is a myth, & the world believes it
iitvNews 3 months ago
Pt 7
Response to save jlm
The Mandates were just a legal tool for ensuring indigenous populations were given autonomy in their respective territories. The Mandates system was nothing more than a legal contract obligating already existing powers to serve as “big brothers” for setting up these countries. Feisal could not have created a Mandate for Palestine. He had no legal ability to do so. As a matter of fact, Feisal rejected the Mandate for Syria, and that's why the French threw him out.
iitvNews 1 year ago
Pt 6
Response to save jlm
...However, It was ultimately up to the Supreme Council of the Principal Allied Powers (Britain, France, Italy, and Japan) to decide what to do with the territories. The League of Nations gave its full blessing for the decisions, but they had nothing to do with the legally binding nature of the 14 Mandates the victorious allies created.
The Mandates were just a legal tool for ensuring indigenous populations were given autonomy in their respective territories...
iitvNews 1 year ago
Pt 5
Response
The French & British were given the task to administer the Mid East Mandates, & they certainly had imperialist intentions in the Mid East, but Italy & Japan (the other 2 allies) had nothing to gain in any “imperialist” respect in the Middle East when deciding to create the Mandates for Syria, Mesopotamia, & Palestine. The agreement to create these small independent countries was reached at the Paris Peace Conference with the support from delegates from around the world.
iitvNews 1 year ago
Pt 4
Response to SaveJlm...
The Arab Jewish Agreement obligated the Hedjaz, whom Feisal represented in the agreement to implement the 1917 British Foreign Policy statement known as the Balfour Declaration. The Balfour Declaration was the Basis for the San Remo Resolution and the Mandate for Palestine: To put “into effect the declaration…adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people…”
iitvNews 1 year ago
Pt 3
Response to SaveJlm...
Your observation that the Arab-Jewish Agreement created the Mandate for Palestine and "not on some imperialist's decision made in San Remo," is dead wrong. No Arab nation had legal title to Palestine. It had belonged to the Ottoman Turkish Empire which ceased to exist following World War I. The former Ottoman Middle East had been conquered by the victorious Principal Allied powers, to whom legal title was then transferred. Only the allies could make that decision.
iitvNews 1 year ago
Pt 2
Response to saveJlm...
That agreement, known as the Feisal-Weitzmann Agreement, is significant because it showed Arab support for returning Palestine to the Jews. It also showed that Arabs did not consider the prior existence of a country or territory called "Palestine." The Arabs considered it a part of southern Syria, and Syria's new leader, Feisal, supported giving it to the Jews.
Your comments show that you do not grasp what the Mandates were and how they were established.
iitvNews 1 year ago
Pt. 1
Response to Save Jlm...
No, you're wrong. As early as 1918 there was already a verbal agreement about who would administer which Mandates in the MidEast. The Arab-Jewish Agreement was not a treaty. There was not yet a sovereign Jewish State when the agreement was signed on Jan 3, 1919. Therefore, the Zionists, at the time, did not have legal capacity to enter into a treaty.
Feisal signed the Agreement on behalf of the newly established Kingdom of Hedjaz (soont o become Saudi Arabia).
iitvNews 1 year ago
Tragic mistakes that kills Israel. The Mandate has nothing to do with San Remo conference that was in 1920, while Mandate for Palestine was written and issued on July 24 1922 in London
The Mandate for Palestine was issued based on the ARAB–JEWISH TREATY, 1919, not on some imperialist's decision made in San Remo. Therefore the Jews are NOT invaders and occupiers of Palestine, but the rightful owners of all Palestine.
SaveJerusalemNow 1 year ago
The San Remo conference basically decided that Israel should exist as a State BASED ONLY on a Biblical Scripture. THE ONLY NAtion on earth based on a biblical scripture. This makes the State of Israel a crusader nation. It has equal legitimacy as the crucaders who wanted a christian nation simply based on scriputres. Many international laws areIll conceived. Palestine should have been a COMPLETELY SECULAR state. The only Way to peace is through the creation of a new SECULAR state.
MKSunGR 1 year ago