Spirits For Sale - 58 minute documentary - trailer

[jessica1968ns]

I see one common thing between our cultures , were all human beings...Peace

[OLDSOUTHERNWAY]

Hahahaha a goddamn joke these white people!! The Indian name part cracked me the fuck up!! They neva will eva understand or become us indian people! So give it up ya pinkies and find your own spirituality! Your fuckin it up for us real indians!!! Some things should stick with our own people! UNDERSTAND!

[Openmindness]

Whites are so used to power to comment on the genocide of races is just weird its impossible to gauge the depth of suffering from a collective level regarding indigenous cultures if your white our ancestors committed a collective mortal sin against the indigenous cultures of this planet i strongly suggest whites LIKE ME invest their time in understanding generational accountability and stop dumping your guilt shame and remorse onto other cultures by trying to compensate for your lack of spirit

[Openmindness]

Black, white, brown, red, yellow, purple, green.

racism, xenophobia, discrimination,exclusion, separateness,suppression,bigot­ry,chauvinism.

ITS ALL, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR.

Celtic man

[darcib2008]

here we go again.. white people tryin 2 take over.. n8vz dont sell there religion n beliefz we recieve offeringz withowt even asking.. u idiotz!!!

[MagicalOillusions]

awww thats wrong >:(

now I see why outsiders aren't let in.

[katlerantics]

This pisses me off beyond belief.

[likpit]

Are those FAKE INDIANS LOL even A MEXICAN IS MORE INDIAN THAN THESE FAKES LOL blackfoot my ass.

[Icekid77]

BEWARE OF A FAKE APACHE NAMED AL CARROLL. THIS IDIOT IS A MENACE TO THE NATIVE COMMUNITY. THE FILM, "SPIRITS FOR SALE" WAS FINANCED BY A SWEDISH LADY WHO IS NOW LAMENTING BECAUSE SHE DID NOT MAKE ANY MONEY OR RECOUP ANY MONEY SHE INVESTED IN THIS STUPID JOKE OF A FILM. AL CARROLL IS A MEXICAN/IRISHMAN POSING AS AN MESCALERO-APACHE. DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING THIS POSER GOES ON ABOUT. NOT A THING.

OGLALA, SIOUX

[MsWinterdreams]

@Icekid77

Hi John, did u do your studies again LOL

[cautionhumanbeing]

My concern is always for; those who are being asked to pay money, are actually being put in harms way, exploiters that take advantage of woman coming to ceremonies and those who are praying to harm others... bad medicine. regardless of what colour and lineage they are.

Pray for each other in a good way. It will all work out. right now, we have a planets health to care for, or we will have to carry on this battle on the other side.

[shashijacobs0831]

Why do we allow others to tell our story?

[shashijacobs0831]

@shashijacobs0831

This is the SECOND reply I have gotten from you. Seems like YOU'RE the one scanning YouTube to defend your race. Stop wasting your time.

[saintvitus69]

native americans do not like white people selling our culture, STOP doing it!!!!!!!!!!! it is not yours, and was never given to you. you came and took it. you stole our land, you stole our lives, dont steal what we have left.

xxxx

[MrSukapi]

why u use morrises name u got send out for sale ceremonies mike chirobokow

[MrSukapi]

hey mike chirobokow

you get send out at morrises why u use his name

here .you sell ceremonies

[str8Savvy]

I think this is kinda jacked but we can't stop people from acting some how. If hes doing wrong the spirits will make him suffer. So its completely out of the native peoples hands.

[dinehwarmother]

tjlightningbolt is a fool. He will never listen to real Native people because his mind is too full of lies from the whiteman he loves. He is not worth our time. He is obviously in bed with frauds. He is either exploiting Native Spirituality himself or he helping the frauds to prosper. Avoid people like this.

[Wyattgoose51]

I Saw this at the Talking Stick Film Festival last year, jerry Clown is a very funny guy to hang around lol. This is a very good Documentary to watch.

[tjlightningbolt]

If She wanted to experience a sweat ceremony she should go to NORTH AMERICA! NOT DENMARK! No one (even so called "real Indian") should be taking a Native American Ceremony to a different country. That is mixing up spirits, powers and forces. To take a ceremony and bring it somewhere it does not originate is to create an imbalance. Selling a documentary is basically the same thing lust in a slightly different way, it is still capitalizing off spiritual exploitation!

[dinehdawgz]

This is the type of irrational arguments that all religious con men make. Introducing Native spirituality to Capitalism and spreading it like Christian missionaries with nor respect and no consideration for the objections of Native people is wrong, wherever it is done. Exposing exploitation is the opposite of exploitation. Only a fraud would even think to make this specious argument. Your whiteness and entitlement is showing.

[firstnationsfirst]

So now all the wannabes are trying to keep the fraud on their own continent ey?

What is that something like, cheat Americans first?

You give yourself away as one of the frauds by your futile attempts at logic. Creating an ORIGINAL work that challenges and exposes fools like tlightninbolt is not analagous to twising and perverting and exploiting someone else's religion for profit. Only a fraud could make this ridiculous claim. What are YOU selling tjlightningbolt?

[kimmarie801]

my familiy is Bohemian!

[phoenixxx111]

i watched the first 5 minute clip,found it interestingand decided to watch the rest on the website.When i got there i found that you have to PAY to see the rest.Are you freaking kiddng me?You DARE to make a clip like ths and then have the BALLS to charge people to see it? Yeah....i can really see how passionate YOU are about spiriualty for sale.....greedy fucks! You are using native people to make money to....JERKS! SHAME ON YOU! This video is SO hypocritical..

[dinehdawgz]

Maybe you're just so used to ripping off NDNS that you can't even imagine compensating an artist for his efforts. Your fake outrage isn't very believable. I'm sure it just covers up all your WHITE GUILT for whatever bullshit neoplaygun wannabe crap you're buying and selling over there in Tampa, one of the wannabe Meccas of the United Mi$takes.

[dinehwarmother]

phoenixxx111

What are YOU selling?

Hypocirte!

[zardoz88]

rather than rip the native americans off the people of denmark should look to their own past for primitive spiritualty.sauna instead of sweatlodge.Odin still lives and waits to be awakened.

[firstnationsfirst]

Primitive? You need to check your racism and those fools need to live in the present instead of pretending to know anything about the past. A sauna is not the same thing as a sacred ceremony. At least you're more upfront about your attraction to the Nazi occult.

[TheDraeStar]

@zardoz88 I could not agree more. I am a Scandinavien living in the home lands of my ancestors and even though I respect American Indians a lot, I would never ever try to be one of them, not because I am a racist but because as I said...I respect them! The Asatru is just as spiritual as any Native American religion, there is no reason to ignore that while stealing some body´s culture and religion...it was never given to you and it is not yours to take!

[qualqui]

sacred are the spirits and now i'm piqued into watchin' the whole documentary, should be very interestin'!

[roger232]

what is all this shit about omg

[crazedmystic]

Damn slopup? you get this kept slobberknocker? Squealin' like a crazy swhishy swine. It'll never get outa the slop. Crackin that nut full of fun> she"d go off like a volcano?!?! itd be fun for a about a TWENTY_FOUR silly ya feelin me?

[ProudAtheistBastard]

Native American "spirituality" is just as retarded as any other. In the end it is all irrational belief. And if you are willing to pay for such crap you are a fool.

[arafel1964]

On the one hand I think it's good that native wisdom is shared but I can also understand some Native Americans who, robbed from their land, rights and resources first, feel like being robbed from their spiritual rites by (white) people who try to earn (easy) money with it.

[SatanicCod]

So, a brunch of failed euro-hippies are "Exploiting" some other's Neolithic belief system? Where's the problem? If you really want to believe is crap like floating spirits or dances that can bring the rain, you can.

On the other side, I find this video racist. Why can't a guy have a sweat-lodge while being european? He paid for the sweat-lodge, he have the right to do anything he wants to do with it, even playing indian.

Yup, it's a new low from Journeyman Pictures...

[creten69]

wtf?journey always has good vids,that was the worst,nothing spiritual at all.Euro trash,trash.

[sinistercharlie]

lol this shit is retarded as hell

[truthsabre7]

These are the people who still have not invented the wheel when European Settlers came to the Americas.

[Psy0pAgent]

yea and while the european settlers where still in loin cloths the japanese were a thriving civilization.

[Psy0pAgent]

i should say 'when' they were in loin cloths

[truslayer123]

loll no thet was China

[truthsabre7]

Have you read Yhe Raping of Nanking?

[Psy0pAgent]

Read it, read more about it, saw the lovely pics and watched a couple vids on here about it. In every age, man denies the animal in him. Best part for me, Ive been training all these years, I am the animal in me. When and if the world goes to shit, I get to see all the prim and proper, fake shoulder pad wearing people have a strange glow wash over their eyes and then we teeter further on the brink of being the 19th collapsed civilization.

[MasterOfgms]

wut teh fux u talkin 'bout betch?

[joeotley]

get off the internet.

[Psy0pAgent]

get off my planet. disgusting little boys.

[Psy0pAgent]

I curse your fucking soul you little puke.

[joeotley]

good one.

[AmericanOriginal1]

I am proud that the Danish people are so aware & respectful of Life; and their connection to Earth (and have such respect for all the OTHER forms of life that ALSO depend upon the Earth).

...but this is contra to Christianity which teaches that Humans are above & apart from the other creatures of the Earth (and thus, not all creatures deserve equal respect).

...Christianity is viewed by many around the world as Arrogant & Hypocritical (or at least, just the way it is practiced & interpreted).

[truslayer123]

did u read the holy book ?

[AmericanOriginal1]

You've been watching too much Harry potter;

Native americans have an oral tradition, there's no "book".

[truslayer123]

i did not think about Indans !!!!???? dont be stupid

[88Grin]

fascinating

[Inconnubeing]

Great Job!

[2pac057]

i got to say it

first comment x)

[ciaochowbella]

Got to say it......

You're a dink for calling first.....

This ain't first grade and you ain't the first on the playground.

Grow the fuck up.

[crazedmystic]

wow... you need to relax.. if these first comments inspire you to leave such banal hateful comments. If 2pac057 is in the first grade, you're in the second grade. cause that's what second graders do.. pick on first graders.

[2pac057]

lol are you jalous xD

[ciaochowbella]

1) It's spelled 'jealous'.

2) I'm a woman, as indicated by my name.

3) And try 'seriously' instead of 'serously'.

4) If English is your first language, you should be ashamed.

[2pac057]

why do you play the internet gangster then??

i tought womans had a brain..

[ciaochowbella]

Why do you insist upon flaunting the fact you're painfully stupid and/or woefully uneducated to the ENTIRE WORLD!?!

Once upon a time, people were ashamed if they couldn't operate their language coherently. Sadly, it now seems to be some sort of badge of honor to be ignorant. Some people are proud of being juvenile and uneducated. A little hint....it's not ingenuous....it's just lame, annoying and ridiculous.

[chefrick03]

I always want to correct people's punctuation and e-slang, but am afraid of being seen as an anal retentive nit-picker.

You give me hope.

[Psy0pAgent]

air frame shock testing, dont let minor errors distract you from the message.

[ciaochowbella]

Darling, if no one picks nits, everyone has lice.

It is not a shameful thing to want to read coherent, mature comments. It is shameful to revel in ignorance. It is also shameful to post immature and inane "first" posts.

Keep that hope alive. We are not all functionally illiterate.

[2pac057]

but you start screaming and stuff becaus i said first comment x)

btw,if i dit somthing wrong well sorry

and can you explain what i dit?

[ciaochowbella]

I was hardly "screaming" as you so inanely put it. I merely stated it was stupid and immature.

And yes, you "dit" something wrong. You have mangled the language and posted in a nearly illiterate fashion. If you are a native speaker of English, you should be painfully ashamed of yourself. If you aren't perhaps you should learn the language a bit better before attempting to post in it.

BTW, it's DID, not DIT. And it wouldn't hurt you to use some punctuation.

[2pac057]

is someone teasing you?? if so i might can help oh and i wont read all that srry

<3 you

peace^

[2pac057]

ok i read it all and u made me cry happy? :(

[ciaochowbella]

Correction: "Okay, I read it all and you made me cry. Happy?"

Five grammatical, spelling and punctuation errors in only eleven words. Are you going for some sort of medal in illiteracy?

Oh, and if crying with shame over your stupendous ignorance of the language compels you to improve your English, then I am not only happy, but delirious with glee that at least ONE PERSON has chosen to not proudly flaunt ignorance as if it were a quality to strive for and maintain.

[crazedmystic]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... you just don't get it, do you?

[2pac057]

haha pleas stop doing this shit wtf is wrong with you i said im sorry jeez

srry for my bad english cuz i use to talk and WRITE persian -_-

[ciaochowbella]

I wasn't addressing you, you never apologized for your bad English, and if I want to continue this conversation with other posters, I will.

You didn't tell anyone to quit who was defending your abysmal use of the language. Don't tell me to stop when I request a bit of clarity.

[eliaen]

It's so good to see that there is at least one more person besides me! I'm so glad to find a firm believer in grammar and punctuation.

[ciaochowbella]

I'm sick of the abuse of the language and the way text message abbreviations are used in supposedly intelligent commentary. If one cannot use the language in a reasonably coherent fashion, one should refrain from making a fool of oneself. What really irritates me is those who are willing to decipher those garbage posts and then attack me when I defend the integrity of the language.

[pietzsche]

Language has no integrity it evolves over time and the very beauty that you think you're defending is CAUSED by so called "abuse of the language". If people actually treated language in the way you advocate it would become stagnant and die. It can also be fun, creative and involving when used colloquially, but becomes legal jargon once "rules" are enforced. And for future reference, if you're gonna be a grammar nazi paragraphs are important.

L2pXP

[ciaochowbella]

I understand that living languages develop from unusual usage and creativity. I have no problem with that. My problem is with the absolute disregard of any of the rules of language. It causes confusion and is rude to expect others to understand it. EVERY language has rules and standards. I'm not expecting perfection, just a reasonable stab at coherency.

You could benefit from paragraphs,too.

[pietzsche]

If it were an absolute disregard there'd be no words, there are, and they make sense if you're willing to look for it, which is pretty much the same as goes for any dialectical differences.

Whether or not I use paragraphs only matters in a formal situation, or, when attacking bad grammar.

American English is a sloppy simplistic bastardization of English, so how any American can criticise abuse of the language is beyond me, it seems ignorant and hypocritical tbh.

[pietzsche]

It makes as much sense as me criticising you for spelling your name wrong, it should be "ciaocioabella".

(I'm not criticising you for that, but you see my point?)

[ciaochowbella]

Actually, it's spelled correctly.

Ciao=hello

Chow=a breed of dog

Bella=beautiful

Translation:Hello beautiful bitch.

So good of you to assume you knew everything.

[ciaochowbella]

You need to pick a hole and get in it. First you laud creativity as the life force of language then you criticize American English as a bastardization. Which is it? Is English a living fluid thing with no real boundaries, or is it some holy thing to be idolized by the likes of you.

I'm saying what a lot of people think and are too afraid to say for fear of JUST this sort of attack. If you are incapable of being coherent IN ANY LANGUAGE, you should not burden others with your ignorance.

[pietzsche]

Lawl, I'm arguing FOR creative use, YOU'RE arguing for "proper use", by my standards, American English is fine, by YOURS it's a sloppy bastardization.

If YOU'RE complaining about "Bad English" while speaking/writing American English you're contradicting yourself.

And lmfao, weren't you moaning about rudeness?

Or do you think "bastardization" is an insult?

I think you should look it up, maybe you got good grammar, but your comprehension's not so good.

[crazedmystic]

"...pick a hole and get in it..." you're turning me on

sorry.. I'm an artist swimming in the sea of insanity...

What are we arguing about? I wanna wreck your glass bowl

[ciaochowbella]

Calling American English a "sloppy, simplistic bastardization of English" is not only an insult, it's incorrect. It is merely an alternate form of the language.

Perhaps YOU should check your comprehension of YOUR OWN COMMENTS. Seems you've developed a case of early onset Alzheimer's to go with your wishy-washy attitude about the language.

I state again, if you can't post clearly as a courtesy to others, don't post.

[pietzsche]

Lol, even what English people speak now is a sloppy bastardization of "proper" English.

Bastardization is the process whereby alternate versions of language come about, it's sloppy by necessity.

And lol at your notion of courtesy, I'm done here and crazedmystic wants your hole.

[ciaochowbella]

Of course you're done. It wasn't your debate to begin with.

And as for courtesy, if you think it's an outdated idea, then OF COURSE it simply MUST be. What with your opinion being some sort of law now.

Tell you what, next time you feel like debating something about which you know very little, have a beer, rub your monkey and just let it go.

[pietzsche]

rofl I don't think courtesy's outdated, I just don't think you know what it is.

Have fun.

[crazedmystic]

Look out 2pac057... your being surrounded by anal retentive nit pickers.. to bad we can't throw water balloons at people over the net...;)

[2pac057]

serously this guys is sick and jalous x)

[ciaochowbella]

You're one of those people who screams, "FIRST!!!!" and owns a collection of vintage whoopie cushions, aren't you?

BTW, it's "TOO BAD".....

Just to be an anal retentive nit-picker.

[crazedmystic]

How did you know?  Gosh you're smart. I love whoopie cushions. Now pull your pretentious laurels out of your ass and relax like the other 99% of the population.

[ciaochowbella]

My original commet wasn't even directed toward you. YOU chose to defend someone who is functionally illiterate and inane. How about you stop defending idiocy and random bullshit and quit making judgments without paying attention to what is said? It is hardly pretentious to expect reasonable commentary and decent use of the English language out of other posters. What is pretentious is for you to tell me to "relax" as if attempting to be germane to the issue and coherent are too much to ask for.

[crazedmystic]

Ciaochowbella mmmmmmmm... a little hot & bothered are we? You really are a bully. I can't helped it if I identify with the poor & down trodden... I am one.

[ciaochowbella]

Poor and down trodden? My, aren't you the little drama queen. I made a comment about inanity and bad English and now I'm some sort of oppressor because I think it's a good thing if people at least ATTEMPT to use the language correctly?!? I think it is arrogant in the extreme to post on a public forum and expect others to decipher incoherent ramblings and gibberish. Respect the language and other commentors by using the language properly. If your English isn't up to it, don't post.

[crazedmystic]

"You blows who you is" - Louis Armstrong The only kinda creativity you like is your own kinda creativity. Just because YOU find something incoherent doesn't mean it is...

Now slap one back on the nine and go with the flow. hopefully that 7/11 roll hits up odd for ya. you dig?

tolerance is a beautiful thing-- art grows from the strange places...

[ciaochowbella]

Tolerance for different ideas and appreciation of art are beautiful things. Condoning and defending poor behavior and bad manners is not only reprehensible, but gives the offender carte blanche to do it again. Expecting others to make exception for you is bad form.

Going with the flow is for those too afraid to speak for their own convictions. Artists swim in waters in which the insane drown. Do not mistake merely being incorrect for creativity. It's not.

[pietzsche]

lmao gratz 1st post ftwXD.

[2pac057]

haha lol xD