Actually, most buffalo were run off of cliffs by indians before the horse arrived on the scene. They may have did some of this after the horse, but they got most of their meat by running buffalo with horses and shooting them with arrows and guns when they became available. We have a buffalo surround located close to where I live that they think indians used for over 800 years.....before the horse arrived.
Keep trying to rationalize the mass extermination of the American bison by US troops, bounty hunters, settlers, and fur trappers. The fact of the matter is that ever since the US condoned mass killing of buffalo in the 1800s more that 45 million buffalo were slaughtered within a time span of a few decades. Also, you're talking about a buffalo jump. Buffalo jumps were common back when Indians didn't have the horse, they were also very unsuccessful. Its impossible to control the number that jump.
Good video. It's an untold atrocity, about how the native americans butchered herds of buffalo, killng far more than they needed. These native amricans didnt seem to be in harmony with nature...
Interesting, yet I am still not clear how people sift thru the lies the government tells, the coverups, we don't find out many truths until other things are said and done. Much manipulation of the facts, yes, thinking for ourselves is the IDEAL, but there is a gaping need to ACCESS what is truth from spin. Many media outlets report something just to turn around and retract it.
Media hype of new flu strains amounts to massive profits for the makers of flu vacines(drug companies). Gov. contracts for the purchase of those vacines.
Stampedes in and out of the bond and equity markets = profits for insiders(Goldmansachs)
When some pundit on the idiot box hypes a stock or talks one down there is a stampede of investors.
If the analogy is about the disasterous effects of panic, e.g., on a herd of wild animals, then who are today's buffalo? Wouldn't they be the people who are warning of the imminent collapse of the economy and the end of the world as we know it?
On a related note, have you watched any videos by SacramaniacsMC?
If you are saying that the buffalo are the far-far-right element that has come into prominence, especially since Obama's election caused them to experience a kind of mass hysteria and extreme fear, and who warn (as you say) about everything from FEMA camps to the North America Union to the "global currency" to chemtrails and flu vaccines designed to kill, the whole "Obama is deliberately driving the country into the ground" theory, then we are in complete agreement.
>> But I've watched your videos in the past, and I thought you were super-far-right yourself (no disrespect, just where I interpret you as falling on the political spectrum). And i thought you moved in some of the same circles with the people who are spreading fear and panic about, e.g., incipient fascism and economic collapse.
The usual metaphor for people NOT in the panicked group is "sheep." But sheep are passive creatures without a care in the world, unlike your terrified buffalo.
>> Or, to put it more simply and directly, it seems to me that the buffalo of today are the people on the far right who are in a constant state of absolute frenzied terror about the ascent of B Hussein X, the African Usurper, to the presidency, a perch from which he will intentionally destroy the country.
The "sheep" metaphor would still seem to be operative for the people who the far-right hate -- i.e., the majority of the American people.
It's retiring baby boomers that have no other source of income other than social security. It's people that wait in line for hours to get the H1N1 vaccine, and get it for their kids too. It's people that upsized their perfectly good economic car because there was a cash-for-clunkers opportunity. It's people that are so deep in debt and underwater in their mortgage that they can't hope to dig out.
Okay. I take your point, and I recognize that no metaphor is perfect and (now that you have clarified your meaning) I can only quibble around the edges.
Bottom line is I don't think the "panicked buffalo" makes sense as a metaphor for "sheep," because the people you describe above are not really panicked. People getting vaccine or new cars or living on Soc Sec can't really be said to be panicking.
>> The people who are panicking -- and they admit it -- are the far-right. The Ron Paul / Alex Jones / Tea Party / Obamaz a socialist Muslim fascist-crowd.
and the leading critique this far right crowd has of the rest of America is that they are NOT panicking; thus, the "sheep" characterization: passive, dumb animals, oblivious to the danger that threatens them.
It's also people who are obsessed with the left-right paradigm and tend to use that as a basis for analyzing people's views, values and motives, even when the paradigm clearly does not apply.
Yup. That's pretty much Z200a in a nutshell. He's obsessed with the left-right paradigm.
Not only that though, he's always trying to throw race into the mix. Just read his profile. Read his comments. I've caught him race baiting too many times to count.
Your feelings are still hurt because I made the factual observation almost TWO YEARS AGO that Ron Paul spent years publishing a racist newsletter under his own name.
Get over it! If it wasn't true, I could understand your constant sobbing. But you're having a fit because you've been confronted with the truth. Just admit the truth and move on. You'll be fine. Honest.
The left-right paradigm is simply a theoretical framework for expressing differences of opinion.
Say, for example, you're anti-abortion and I'm pro-choice. We could arbitrarily decide that your position is "right" and mine is "left." What's wrong with that?
What's wrong with using left and right as a classification scheme to express differences of opiniion?
Do you deny differences of opinion exist? Or do you simply object to their classification?
* The totality of a person's opinions is not a binary value. *
Yes, this is exactly right. ISSUES can easily be defined as left/right, but it gets a lot trickier with PEOPLE, because, as you imply, people can simultaneously hold opinions on the left and right.
I will note, howver, that for whatever reason, people tend to embrace ideas in groups, holding mostly liberal or mostly conservative views.
I'll grant that the Ron Paul crowd breaks this mold more than most people.
"I'll grant that the Ron Paul crowd breaks this mold more than most people."
You've said a number of things here I agree with and that leaves me scratching my head. In one case with you I recall some troll leaving a pretty bad comment on some girl's anti-RP video. It had to do with rape - you remember that? And you made a big issue of it saying that that's all RP supporters.
I think you're just very partisan (which I'm not) and nice now because "your guy" won. I'm not like that.
* In one case with you I recall some troll leaving a pretty bad comment on some girl's anti-RP video. It had to do with rape - you remember that? And you made a big issue of it saying that that's all RP supporters. *
That does not ring a bell at all. What was my comment?
In any event, I try to be respectful and friendly to everyone, even people I disagree with, but I will admit there have been times when I've been in a bad mood and been rude. If I've been rude to you, I apologize.
Well you called him a scum sucking pig and that's all fine and well but it was when you said something to the effect of "it's good that RP supporters show their true colors..."
Anyways, apology accepted and I'm sorry for calling you an idiot.
Actually, most buffalo were run off of cliffs by indians before the horse arrived on the scene. They may have did some of this after the horse, but they got most of their meat by running buffalo with horses and shooting them with arrows and guns when they became available. We have a buffalo surround located close to where I live that they think indians used for over 800 years.....before the horse arrived.
highcountryhal 2 months ago
Keep trying to rationalize the mass extermination of the American bison by US troops, bounty hunters, settlers, and fur trappers. The fact of the matter is that ever since the US condoned mass killing of buffalo in the 1800s more that 45 million buffalo were slaughtered within a time span of a few decades. Also, you're talking about a buffalo jump. Buffalo jumps were common back when Indians didn't have the horse, they were also very unsuccessful. Its impossible to control the number that jump.
akichita87 11 months ago
Good video. It's an untold atrocity, about how the native americans butchered herds of buffalo, killng far more than they needed. These native amricans didnt seem to be in harmony with nature...
ConservativeTimes 1 year ago
Damn Good Simile
mnoel228 2 years ago
"I'm not like that."
Just to clarify this, I am saying I'm not into the partisan games and making politics into the (blood)sport it has become.
I'm not saying I'm not nice. I am nice to those who are nice to me.
beejusbeejus 2 years ago
amen
MichaelSavage4Prez 2 years ago
I just wanted to say though, I NEVER follow the herd, ever until I see where they are heading too! But I have always felt that way.
Jelly50cent 2 years ago
cont'd from last comment -
Other than a constant diet of many sources and then finding common denominators, I struggle to know what is real anymore from day to day. :)
Jelly50cent 2 years ago
Interesting, yet I am still not clear how people sift thru the lies the government tells, the coverups, we don't find out many truths until other things are said and done. Much manipulation of the facts, yes, thinking for ourselves is the IDEAL, but there is a gaping need to ACCESS what is truth from spin. Many media outlets report something just to turn around and retract it.
Jelly50cent 2 years ago
Media hype of new flu strains amounts to massive profits for the makers of flu vacines(drug companies). Gov. contracts for the purchase of those vacines.
Stampedes in and out of the bond and equity markets = profits for insiders(Goldmansachs)
When some pundit on the idiot box hypes a stock or talks one down there is a stampede of investors.
Think in terms of profits.
Simpateeko 2 years ago
If the analogy is about the disasterous effects of panic, e.g., on a herd of wild animals, then who are today's buffalo? Wouldn't they be the people who are warning of the imminent collapse of the economy and the end of the world as we know it?
On a related note, have you watched any videos by SacramaniacsMC?
Z200a 2 years ago
>who are today's buffalo?
The unwitting public that is induced into panic reactions. For example out of fear of the H1N1 hysteria.
Or fear of NWO. Or fear of US military herding everyone into FEMA camps. Or fear of a world after the US empire crumbles.
The buffalo that survive are the ones that don't blend in with the herd. The ones that can function as individuals, making their own decisions.
dashxdr 2 years ago
If you are saying that the buffalo are the far-far-right element that has come into prominence, especially since Obama's election caused them to experience a kind of mass hysteria and extreme fear, and who warn (as you say) about everything from FEMA camps to the North America Union to the "global currency" to chemtrails and flu vaccines designed to kill, the whole "Obama is deliberately driving the country into the ground" theory, then we are in complete agreement.
Z200a 2 years ago
>> But I've watched your videos in the past, and I thought you were super-far-right yourself (no disrespect, just where I interpret you as falling on the political spectrum). And i thought you moved in some of the same circles with the people who are spreading fear and panic about, e.g., incipient fascism and economic collapse.
The usual metaphor for people NOT in the panicked group is "sheep." But sheep are passive creatures without a care in the world, unlike your terrified buffalo.
Z200a 2 years ago
>> Or, to put it more simply and directly, it seems to me that the buffalo of today are the people on the far right who are in a constant state of absolute frenzied terror about the ascent of B Hussein X, the African Usurper, to the presidency, a perch from which he will intentionally destroy the country.
The "sheep" metaphor would still seem to be operative for the people who the far-right hate -- i.e., the majority of the American people.
Z200a 2 years ago
>The "sheep" metaphor
Buffalo == sheeple. Same group.
It's retiring baby boomers that have no other source of income other than social security. It's people that wait in line for hours to get the H1N1 vaccine, and get it for their kids too. It's people that upsized their perfectly good economic car because there was a cash-for-clunkers opportunity. It's people that are so deep in debt and underwater in their mortgage that they can't hope to dig out.
In short almost everyone in the USA.
dashxdr 2 years ago
* Buffalo == sheeple. Same group.*
Okay. I take your point, and I recognize that no metaphor is perfect and (now that you have clarified your meaning) I can only quibble around the edges.
Bottom line is I don't think the "panicked buffalo" makes sense as a metaphor for "sheep," because the people you describe above are not really panicked. People getting vaccine or new cars or living on Soc Sec can't really be said to be panicking.
>>
Z200a 2 years ago
>> The people who are panicking -- and they admit it -- are the far-right. The Ron Paul / Alex Jones / Tea Party / Obamaz a socialist Muslim fascist-crowd.
and the leading critique this far right crowd has of the rest of America is that they are NOT panicking; thus, the "sheep" characterization: passive, dumb animals, oblivious to the danger that threatens them.
So, again, I find the buffalo metaphor puzzling.
But I will admit I'm nitpicking big time.
Z200a 2 years ago
>But I will admit I'm nitpicking big time.
I'd guess you've spent more time analyzing the metaphor than it took me to make the video and type in the 2 paragraphs from the book.
That's good! I like giving people something to think about. Thanks for your comments.
dashxdr 2 years ago
** I'd guess you've spent more time analyzing the metaphor than it took me to make the video and type in the 2 paragraphs from the book. **
LOL!
** Thanks for your comments. **
And thank you for making videos. I always enjoy them.
Z200a 2 years ago
> sheep metaphor
It's also people who are obsessed with the left-right paradigm and tend to use that as a basis for analyzing people's views, values and motives, even when the paradigm clearly does not apply.
LisaJ4Liberty 2 years ago
Yup. That's pretty much Z200a in a nutshell. He's obsessed with the left-right paradigm.
Not only that though, he's always trying to throw race into the mix. Just read his profile. Read his comments. I've caught him race baiting too many times to count.
beejusbeejus 2 years ago
Your feelings are still hurt because I made the factual observation almost TWO YEARS AGO that Ron Paul spent years publishing a racist newsletter under his own name.
Get over it! If it wasn't true, I could understand your constant sobbing. But you're having a fit because you've been confronted with the truth. Just admit the truth and move on. You'll be fine. Honest.
Z200a 2 years ago
Has nothing to do with that. I'm just tired of self-righteous windbags.
beejusbeejus 2 years ago
And you were putting words in my mouth. That's a no no. I don't like that. :)
beejusbeejus 2 years ago
* the left-right paradigm *
The left-right paradigm is simply a theoretical framework for expressing differences of opinion.
Say, for example, you're anti-abortion and I'm pro-choice. We could arbitrarily decide that your position is "right" and mine is "left." What's wrong with that?
What's wrong with using left and right as a classification scheme to express differences of opiniion?
Do you deny differences of opinion exist? Or do you simply object to their classification?
Z200a 2 years ago
"What's wrong with using left and right as a classification scheme to express differences of opiniion?"
The totality of a person's opinions is not a binary value. Apparently it is to you. But to people who understand and think logically, it's not.
beejusbeejus 2 years ago
* The totality of a person's opinions is not a binary value. *
Yes, this is exactly right. ISSUES can easily be defined as left/right, but it gets a lot trickier with PEOPLE, because, as you imply, people can simultaneously hold opinions on the left and right.
I will note, howver, that for whatever reason, people tend to embrace ideas in groups, holding mostly liberal or mostly conservative views.
I'll grant that the Ron Paul crowd breaks this mold more than most people.
Z200a 2 years ago
"I'll grant that the Ron Paul crowd breaks this mold more than most people."
You've said a number of things here I agree with and that leaves me scratching my head. In one case with you I recall some troll leaving a pretty bad comment on some girl's anti-RP video. It had to do with rape - you remember that? And you made a big issue of it saying that that's all RP supporters.
I think you're just very partisan (which I'm not) and nice now because "your guy" won. I'm not like that.
beejusbeejus 2 years ago
* In one case with you I recall some troll leaving a pretty bad comment on some girl's anti-RP video. It had to do with rape - you remember that? And you made a big issue of it saying that that's all RP supporters. *
That does not ring a bell at all. What was my comment?
In any event, I try to be respectful and friendly to everyone, even people I disagree with, but I will admit there have been times when I've been in a bad mood and been rude. If I've been rude to you, I apologize.
Z200a 2 years ago
Well you called him a scum sucking pig and that's all fine and well but it was when you said something to the effect of "it's good that RP supporters show their true colors..."
Anyways, apology accepted and I'm sorry for calling you an idiot.
beejusbeejus 2 years ago