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  • Very nice.

  • 1 Person actually marched...

  • as soon as i heard Phil one of my first reactions was bob who?

  • "Any more"? I don't think Phil ever marched at all.

  • @rounds1954 Well, he didn't do any of the things mentioned in the song actually, but perhaps you missed that point.

  • @rounds1954 It's sung from the point of view of a soldier who experienced every war since the war of 1812. He didn't fight in all these wars himself. The point is that all of these wars are full of pointless killing.

  • tribute

    by tony kilkelly p 13

  • call it peace or call it treason, call it love or call it reason... enough said.........OCHS GENIUS!!!!!!

  • Yes Phil was not as prolific as Dylan but Phil is the real deal and no put-on and Dylan was not kind to Phil and Phil had only admiration for his hero. His best music to me are songs like Changes or There but for Fortune or When I'm Gone thought his topical songs as The marines have landed on the shores of santo domingo display his remarkable literary skills. Forget his politics; his heart was always in the right (not left) place.

  • I love you Phil, happy 70th birthday and may you rest in peace

  • I wasn't there, but from what I see and hear some 40 years on is that Phil pulled no punches. He truly lived up to the words: "If I got something to say, I'm gonna say it now". A ballsy cat in ANY generation. He was always too out of time to become hugely popular - speaking his mind WAY too early in the 60s, then sort of letting mental illness run away with him. We have so needed Phil since the late 90's.

    Phil was the real deal.

  • So true, leigh. Phil was the person Dylan pretended to be.

  • Phil Ochs died after I gave him a whip cream blowjob after he did a show in Virginia.

  • Where is Phil performing in this clip? Is this from a television program?

  • "i dreamed i saw phil ochs ,,:...billy bragg.....yeah bob treated phil pretty bad by all accounts always putting him down apparently he was incenced when phil didnt fall over in adoration of "crawl out yor window" fair enough .. though it was one of the most advanced rock songs of the time.

  • Phil condoned and argued not for blind resistance but for his generation and posterity to be alligned with the truth. considering that people think the obama-brown legacy is an improvement on the bush-blair legacy would have been a subject of most grievous disappointment to him.

    We miss you, Phil.

  • I'm proud to be from the same town that Ochs was from.

  • Anyone know what happened to the video of Phil performing 'Joe Hill'?

    I loved that video & I can't find it anymore.

  • Listen to Harry CHAPIN's "The Parade's Still Passing By" and you'll get chills. I think that this is a testament to the greatness of this type of music. It transcends age and time and is relevant to all of us. I've turned on Many friends who are my age (32) and even younger to this music. I strongly encourage you to do the same. Now more than ever, we need to hear songs like these. We all need to take it upon ourselves to do something to make this world a better place to be. -Mike Tocci

  • Harry chapin did something really great when he started world hunger year ,phil ochs was banned from performing on television ,you had to go through the william morris agency to be on televison then they told robert culp if you dont do this western you will never work in this country again? they told murry wilson the beach boys will never be bigger than ruby and the romantics?

  • I learned about him from Hearts in Atlantis by Stephen King also. I'm excited to see other people mentioned that. I'm only 20 so yeah.... I was born way after the war, but I'd rather listen to music like this than modern pop stations any day.

  • you had to be there.........

  • Wokman next to him looks very like Julie Felix

  • I just read "hearts in Atlantis". Story happens in sixties with many allusions to groups and singers who contested military actions and advocated for peace. I'm french and I was between 6 and 15 years old at this time. Of course, I was very marked by that great period, and still keep in my mind known singers and songs. Stephen King speaks about Phil Ochs and I thank you to share your videos. That allows me to know more about him.

  • That's how I came to know about Ochs, too...this came out the year before I was born, and as a kid the Vietnam War was no even mentioned in my home. Stephen King really knows how to bring the reader to want to learn more!

  • Music, Real Music, from a pure place, as it is meant to be born. Phil, I still cry for you, but you give me strength to carry on the Resistenza. Viva!

  • Some sources say that the first folk rock record is an electric version of this by phil ochs and the blues project issued only on a sound sheet by broadside magazine and played on the radio by there friend and advisor murry the k .

  • The woman next to him looks so stoned

  • she's probably just completely absorbed by his sexy sideburns! look at those babies! that's revolution in facial hair!

  • Really interesting footage, that was Julie Felix sat next to him, ooops showing my age lol

  • He was fearless in his politics and lyrics.

  • yes

  • I also can't agree that Dylan took anything from Ochs...and I am from that era...we saw Ochs as being with Seeger and Baez, true believers..Dylan was good, a great lyricist but never was seen as dedicated to any kind of cause.

  • well i wasnt alive in that era

    but it seems to me like ochs actually wanted political change and was more than anything a radical folk singer

    and dylan wrote beautiful songs and was more like a poet.

    both are great tho.

    m i rite?

  • yeah, right on...where was dylan in 69 ? nashville ? pah.

  • I second that. Phil Ochs was on the front lines of social activism in the 60s. Dylan was AWOL

  • Dylan never claimed to be a social activist

  • Your right he said he just did the protest thing because it was fashionable [when he did blood on the tracks phil said blood is not good enought to him ] ,but some people think blonde on blonde is the greatest rock album of all time .

  • Brian wilson said bob dylan is a genius destined to destroy rock and roll which is ironic because phil wrote a record review of california girls by the beach boys another funny irony is the computer code for this video has the letters fbi in it .

  • @leighm95060 yeah bob was awol ... busy inventing modern pop/rock/blues/folk music while wide eyed dreamers like phil ocks ,joan baez etc thought they were gonna change the world by singing "we shall overcome"and other whining.outdated folksy crapp...if they wanted change,they should've layed down their guitars and taken up ak47's and bought a load of chemical fertilizer and a u haul truck

  • @leighm95060 he was probably having free love withe the girl next to him

  • @uncatila Hate to pop your bubble but I was there... in that time and culture, and I'm here to tell you it WAS NOT 'Free', and it usually didn't have anything to do with "Love".

    Just ask John Kerry... pseudo-VVAW. "Hippie chicks put out easier".

    

  • @YouBastard95060. God , I hope you read this... You so miss the point. But then you most likely never got it in the first place. You must be as surly on the outside as you are on the inside. I was there too, and though free it was not, it was a lot better than you deserve.

  • @putitupmike1 Amen!

  • @putitupmike1 - I read it... I don't miss the point at all, because unlike many of the commenters here, I WAS inside his "small circle of friends (of NY anti-war activists), and Mike, we were WAY TOO BUSY being hounded by "red squads' and the like to just screw anytime we felt like it. That was for the hedonistic NON-Activists and other posers to the Anti-Imperialist movement in the US. You're right... I'm surly, and I'm STILL Anti-Imperial.

  • @YouBastard95060 ... Yep, you was there, and I was here, and at the same time and doing the same thing, and I suppose that in the midst of all we were doing I was hedonistic, but that did not seem to limit my effectiveness. I cherish the times, the people, but would never think to speak for anyone but myself. And yes we did screw anytime we wanted. Actually, thanks to Cialis I still do.

  • @YouBastard95060

    You are right! I am still anti-Imperial too and I was there too in NYC in the anti-war movement. Lots of lunches, breakfasts, at the deli with Phil.

  • @putitupmike1 Also see my video reply to this for some current thoughts on "Marching"

  • Dylan was AWOL? You're joking. Dylan wrote THE definitive anti-war, civil rights, social injustice book for the 60's. The songs are as fresh and pertinent to this day, as they were 40+ years ago. To paraphrase a quote I remember from that decade-Dylan was saying what everyone else was only he said it better than everyone else. "I don't think he [Dylan] was very kind to poor Phil". I don't understand why I keep seeing this. Not kind? What does that even mean? Roll over and play dead?

  • @Luann29 I agree with you completely!

  • @leighm95060 what's AWOL?

  • As for your comment about Dylan and Ochs--Ochs stayed the same throughout his life, a committed social activist as well as a singer. Dylan, who was also great, kept changing his "act" every frew years, from protest folk singer to more personal folk singer to rock singer to country-rock singer, etc. In this way, he was like the famed jazz trumpeter Miles Davis, who went from bop to hard bop to cool jazz to modal jazz, etc. Both Dylan and Miles had tempestuous personalities. .

  • Dylan was never a protest singer people just took his songs in a way he didn't want them to.

  • this song is just so brilliant

  • I don't Dylan actually stole Phil's thunder. (although I don't think he was very kind to poor Phil.) Phil was in a tough position. He needed commercial success to get his message out, but if he was perceived as a "sell out", he understood his message would lose it's meaning. And while I think he'd be very sad about the state of US and the world today, he'd be thrilled to know his music still inspires. If you haven't heard it, check out Jen Cass's "Standing in Your Memory". (her my-space)

  • He was brilliant. Too bad Dylan stole his thunder. This is the first song a really remember listening to. Nanci Griffith does a nice tribute to him.

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