Kharn the Betrayer VS Daemon Prince

[coffeenuthut]

Kharn killed for me a greater demon a land raider also a demon Prince and Chaos bikers and the seven zerkers unit he was in. Got to love seven one in a row LOL

[666CorpseRot]

Kharn is a pretty cool guy and he doesn't afraid of anything. lol

[Famousreflex1]

Personally, I'll take a chaos terminator lord with a blissgiver better save and a good invulnerable save as well

[EternalTombKing]

@zollen123

Kharne HATES physchic and physcers that's why khorne does have physchic abilities

[zollen123]

Why Khorne never promoted Kharn to be a Daemon prince?

[HolyVegeta]

@zollen123

That is a good question. I guess Kharn prefers to fight without daemonic powers. Maybe because he thinks that it would be too easy to kill his enemies if he was a daemon prince.

[Irtehdar]

Kharn is also the reason Chuck N00bis is hiding

Nothing says ''I love you'' like a chain axe to the face...

[thomasthespacemarine]

Wats da special rule ma Pedro kantor needs blood for the blood god

[MarinesofChaos]

This old because he wounds on a 2+

[BloodDX2]

lmao, they dont call him "the Betrayer" for nothing! XP

[wubs23]

kharn does have 2+ armor save?

[kankuj23]

@wubs23 no he is not in terminator armor he has 3+ armor/5+ inv

[wubs23]

@kankuj23 yeah you're right. he always hits on a 2+, that was where i went wrong xD

[kankuj23]

@wubs23 but in 3rd edition he had 2+ armor save

[SuperJohnthebomb]

I wonder if they will ever fix a horus character. He would be da best marine ever!!!

[SirSoup3]

Abbadon is the best close combat marine because he is the best marine ever

[dragonstormx]

@SirSoup3

But he's also costs alot more than Kharn does, actually he costs the more than anything the Chaos Marines have.

[dragonstormx]

So, of all the melee characters in the game, whose considered the best for one-on-ones, and whose the best for multiple enemies, not counting Apocalypse exclusives.

[trurealest]

@dragonstormx

Marine or other. I mean, the Bloodthirster has a WS of 10 and hits with 5 S7 attacks. But then Lelith Esporax from the new Dark Eldar codex is sick!! She hits at Initiative 9, has 5 standard attacks, plus she gains an extra attack for every point of WS that she has over her opponents. That means that if you charge Imperial Guard with her then she can hit with 12 attacks!!!! Then again, the Nightbringer hits with 5 S10 attacks. That's instant death even against space wolves!!!!

[dragonstormx]

@trurealest

So tough call? Those sound like things for multiple things, but what about one on ones? For those I read a good one is the Skulltaker who inflicts instant death on a rending wound.

[trurealest]

@dragonstormx

Not bad, unless it's against characters like Calgar or Master Samuel who are immune to instant death. Marneus Calgar holds the eternal warrior special rule and Master Samuel has his adamantine protection. Personally I'd say Nightbringer. Although I'm starting a Dark Eldar army so after I've tested Lelith in hand to hand I could be biased towards her.

[dragonstormx]

@trurealest

I know that's there's some stuff that's immune to instant death. By the way, I'm into researching the game, but I'm too cheap to buy any of the rulebooks and can't find anything online that explains what the game's stats mean. Could you explain them to me?

[mayhem380]

@trurealest

But if you have a Blood Angels librarian, who really doesn't cost much, and give him Sanguine Sword, all of his attacks are automatically S10.

[trurealest]

@mayhem380 I'd still rather Lelith. WS of 9 and an Initiative of 9 with attacks that ignore armour saves, plus an extra attack for every point of WS she has over her opponent. That's 8 attacks on a Librarian, 9 if she charges. Okay she only has a S value of 3 but still, rolling 9 dice is doing some damage. I guess every race has it's 'carnage characters'. I'm just all for the Dark Eldar at the moment. An Archon that can cause instant death and fire a S8 pistol for less than 160pts. Nasty.

[RockmariomkiZX]

@trurealest Dark Eldar are just overpowered at this point. Seriously.

[burbidgestephen]

kharn always wounds on a 2+

[OttoTorrens]

Kharn is such a bad ass he doesn't need to become a Daemon Prince

[dragonstormx]

@OttoTorrens

I personally have hard time liking anybody that says "Maim kill burn, maim kill burn"

[OttoTorrens]

@dragonstormx

You gotta read that Kharn short story and you'll understand why people like him

[dragonstormx]

@OttoTorrens

You mean the one where he goes slaughters a bunch of guys on his own side a bunch of the Emperor's Children? To be honest, the fact that Chaos Space Marine let lunatics like him into the ranks is part of why I don't have a hard time grasping why they can't beat the Imperium, the bulk of them sound like terrible soldiers.

[OttoTorrens]

@dragonstormx

No, the one where he kills over a thousand slaanesh warriors and fight the temptation to betray Khorne and kills his troops when they betray him.

[dragonstormx]

@OttoTorrens

Emperor's Children as Slaanesh warriors, and him fighting the temptation to kill his own troops for betraying doesn't sound to impressive when he's killed for less than that, or just because they were there. In fact, he really shouldn't surprised if his troops for betraying him because he is a lousy commander.

[xXshreddedmetalXx]

Is Kharn worth fielding?

[CaptCow]

@xXshreddedmetalXx You bet he is. Field him in a squad of 9 other Berzerkers and watch as the others get torn to shreds. Kharn is so good that he ALWAYS hits on a 2+, and hits his own guy on a 1, so either way you always hit.

[AgeOfReclamation]

@xXshreddedmetalXx

really good vs tanks, wont die in an assault, worth it if hes not at range.

[jfrulez1]

FIELD ME!!!

[thedarknesscallingme]

best thing that Kharn ever did for me:

took on two full squads of ultra marines, then took on 6 assault terminators. managed to kill 4 of them before dying.

worst thing Kharn ever did for me:

got sucked into the warm by his own vortex grenade that he had just thrown

[chainaxe8]

Best thing Kharn has ever done for me: killed a 5 man unit of TH/SS termies and 2 of my own defilers in the same combat. He gets shit done!

[TheSlipknotManson]

@Chainaxe8

Lol!

[rugonfire]

wow i didnt know there was an actually guy named kharn.. cuase thats what i named my chaos lord

[Gorkpunch]

To kharn, stamping on kittens and babys is as natural to him, as breathing and blinking is to us

[REAPER3382]

yup because its in his name

[Theswankytroll]

Kharn love Khittie!

[splashie777]

Kharn is the kind of character who would rarther burn down an orphanage of kittens rarther than sit around and watch t.v

[howiekapowi]

@splashie777 So am i

[REAPER3382]

yup

[washupgallery]

Obviously. I think I'd prefer the kitten burning too.

[faf26]

question look at page 28 of the warriors of chaos army book that daemon prince is what i`ll be planning on making.

tell me what you of miniwargaming think of it.

cheers.

[lorcan454]

It's always funny to watch somebody's chaos unit tear loads of their own men apart. The funniest I've seen is when some guy got cocky and fired at a load of Infantry that were very close to him with a chaos vindicator, the scatter dice rolled and it got the arrow, and since the shot was very close it backfired and blew up the vindicator.

[PointBlankX]

Kharn the Betrayer. Seriously, what a great guy.

[twilightrlz]

chaos vs chaos ?????

[dragonstormx]

@twilightrlz

So, they fight eachother all the time. Do they sound like the kind of guys that would get along.

[TheChaosUndivided]

yeah but he doenst have a dumb ability to kill his own guys.

[jayscreamin]

kharn is awesome

[TheChaosUndivided]

The reason Kharn is awesome is BECAUSE he hits his own guys its annoying yet very fun to watch as your own men are sluaghtered by probably the best Close Combat Marine ever.

[AEigner]

Kharn, a really fun guy to be around...

[TheChaosUndivided]

Absolutely

[Khornedevotee]

@TheChaosUndivided Because Kharn has slain SOOOOO MAAAAAAANY(countless,which makes it hard to say exactly how many but,his victims are tens of thousands,if not more),shouldn't he reach daemon hood by now?! :/

[TheChaosUndivided]

@Khornedevotee Meh maybe he doenst wan be a Daemon Prince.

[Khornedevotee]

@TheChaosUndivided Hmm, can you really choose that as a mortal?! Then the choosing part could maybe include WHAT exact gifts you could receive from this. Like you say to each god: I want this and that. Hehe, then you could also choose the way you'd look as a Daemon Prince if you'd reach it. But I on the other hand rather doubt you could choose that. I mean when the chaos gods find their champions ready to reach DH(daemon hood),then I think they'll grant them that :P.

[TheChaosUndivided]

@Khornedevotee Well a Daemon Prince that has a rage sickness that makes him attack his own men would be fucking ridiculius wouldnt it, i mean, rather then killing his onw troops, he will be destroying his own tanks aswell, logic much?

[TearyWrist]

@Khornedevotee abaddon does this... fluff says he chooses not to become a daemon prince until he destroyes the imperium, or something like that

[Khornedevotee]

@TearyWrist: Well, this won't happen though because after the imperium is destroyed(IF it will ever be ofc) then there's no reason for space marines to be availible as an arm'y anymore and if there's no space marines around where are chaos' archenemies?

[TearyWrist]

@Khornedevotee I know, just what the fluff says. maybe meant until the emporer is killed or something like that, not sure. Chaos always has other things to fight, slaanesh has eldar to finish off, c'tan probably want to eat the chaos gods, tyranid and orkz will probably never be fully killed off, though orkz could be converted to chaos...

[Khornedevotee]

@TearyWrist: May be! Well we'll probably find that out...or not! We'll see in a far future perhaps.

[EvLmongoose]

@TearyWrist

Chaos Ork? I'd love to see that.

[TimmyTheNerd]

@TearyWrist

Actually, they can't unless you can show me a direct example where it says they can. I can't remember where it is stated, but in one of GW's books it states that Ork minds are too simple to be converted by the Chaos Gods.

[TearyWrist]

@TimmyTheNerd The daemonhunter's book gives an example of orkz worshipping nurgle thinking its mork or gork, along with pictures of mutated nurgle orkz. In the older rulebook for orkz, and I'm assuming that it isn't considered cannon anymore, stormboyz would be attracted to the worship of chaos, especially Khorne

[JarnBjorn72]

@TheChaosUndivided Yes, back when I was playing 40K regularly, whenever my Kharne would charge into battle, we would yell "Blood for the out of control Blood blender!"

[MrQuqumber]

@TheChaosUndivided plus he gets 6 atks when he atks with 6 str and 2+ hit XD

[divinemanifestation]

What loon charges in on a demon prince with Kharn and your other toughest fuck.

[ih8lemsip]

only bad thing about karn is the whole betrayer thing he has goin for him

[rossjnd]

Not really i think its suits his attitude towards everyone :)

[MacWonDi]

I don't know what's going on! O_o.

why are there so many dice? D:

[MattxMisfitx]

NO! I love Kharn! One time he killed two of my own berserkers, yet he STILL won the battle :)

[QuickyBaby]

Whos kermit the frog?

[AnimeFreak84853]

r u serious?

[Jensoffer]

Chaos fith edition SUCKS BALLS! And why have they down graded them?

[nilo4ever]

Correction on my part. Like darktankadin said, it was on skalathrax.

[kingnevada]

what did Kharn do to get a name like that?

[DarkTankadin]

Assuming you mean his title as "The Betrayer", he got it because during a battle on a planet called Skalathrax, there was a night that was so cold it would kill you in seconds so they had to wait to continue fighting in the morning. Kharn got so tired of waiting to fight he went on a berzerk rampage, torching buildings and killing 'everyone' (allies and enemies alike). This event caused the World Eaters to seperate into hundreds of warbands, and they would never be united as one Legion again.

[sammmfrg]

dark tankadin = coolest person ever

not

[DarkTankadin]

Ouch...wow...how will I recover from that...I mean that really hurt...I think I'll go slit my wrist in a bathtub after that blow to my self esteem *rolls eyes*. You must think you're pretty cool trolling on youtube, making fun of others because you are so insecure about yourself. Please spare us the retard-rage caused by your various mommy-daddy problems and get the fuck off youtube you idiotic twat.

[sammmfrg]

why do you write paragraphs?

get a life

[DarkTankadin]

Why do you write like a 6-year-old? I have a life, obviously your the one who needs to get one since you spend your time trolling on Youtube you twat.

Go suck your mom.

[sammmfrg]

you win, your wayy to cool for me

sheeesh

[nilo4ever]

To keep a long story short. He and a bunch of berzerkers where fighting some other guys on Istvaan 3. Both sides were taking shelter in some ruins because the temperatures outside were deadly freezing. So Kharn went apeshit because no1 wanted to attack. So he starts chopping up his own men with his axe and finally ends ends up burning down the entire city with a flamethrower killing friends and foe alike LOL. I probably missed some details. Just google him dude ;D

[Khornedevotee]

@nilo4ever Did Kharn have friends? lol Does any follower of Chaos has ANY REAL ''friends?''. Seems strange for evil ones.

[RegdarTheWarrior]

lol, this vid made me laugh

not in a bad way, but like, "i wanna horde of demon thingys that kick ass"

i remember going to a mall in san diego one time with my cuz and we walked into a store exclusively for warhammer and the clerked asked if we wanted to play

we used to play heroclix(spidey vs. bats?!?! oh noes!!!) so we were pretty interested

we never got into it and got back into halo

idk, its just something about commanding a squadron with an overview that just gets me all giddy

[DoomBubbIe]

I just need to get a rule straight, I know it will seem noob but oh well.

When you loose the combat do you take wounds equal to the amount of wounds you lost by?

Thanks.

[Setitenut]

only if your unit is fearless...otherwise you dont, but you have to check to see if your unit runs away

[Teufelaffe]

ffs sake people, it's pronounced dEEmon, even though it's spelled with an "ae". It's just like the name Caesar...that's not pronounced "sayzar"...it's pronounced "seezar". To recap..."Daemon" and "Demon" are both pronounced the same way.

[upthebikez]

I LOVE my Daemon Prince, I tried Chaos Lord in a couple of battles and he does not stack up. In the last two battles I've fought my Daemon Prince killed 2 dreadnoughts, half a tac marine squad, blew up three weapons on a Land Raider and only died in the one battle. I love double-strength attacks on vehicles.

[nightbringer5]

can i buy that gameing board???

[dexanderson7]

i make gaming boards ;)

[StompSlomp]

chaos rules!!

[bluetablelover]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!!!!

[nignogmctasty]

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!!!!!

[TheFlyingAway]

THATS a badly painted chaos army.

[phatmonk6195]

yup highlighting is tuff

[SaintJimmy2000]

He really is the betrayer.

[ixekun]

Look at Kharn, hitting his own Chaos Lord, nots afraids of anything.

[sigose]

gore child ALWAYS WOUNDS on 2+

so that guy is wrong! DL the chaos FAQ rule update.

[titanicsteeve]

GORECHILD always hits on 2+...

[Aderath]

no he hits on a 2+ any 1's hit his own men with the Gorechild profile

[PenguinPainterz]

read the codex again mate, he hits on 2+, strength 5/6on the charge

[Kriegfreak]

Kharn doesn't take shit from anyone!

[Khornedevotee]

@Kriegfreak Kharn is Chuck Norris o_O :)

[TwoCowzBrowze]

nonpainted minatures = phail.

[Jony118118]

What about undercoated?

[heald111111111111111]

The only reason I like Warhammer miniatures is the painting and assembling :)

[Saxmaster96]

if you like painting look up hordes, the models are gorgeous.

[deathsheep]

Kharn is a pretty cool guy.

[reidmeyers]

That guy sounds like gus from rooster teeth

[3000whitedragon]

KHARN is vary cool i like to see him being used

[Acherontius]

Great to see the new table in action!

[laid2rest]

KHARN FTW!!!! My army always has Kharn when allowed and hes yet to let me down.. ive slain many a deamon prince and lord with my little axe wielding betrayer! KILL, MAIM, BURN!

[JarnBjorn72]

Kharn the Betrayer is great, if you can put up with the people watching the game calling him "Karn the Blender", laid2rest!

[laid2rest]

i ignore the ignorant and puny imperial scum who call him such names, and i simply let his axe do the talking, and laugh when there marines and guard are cut through like a hot knife through butter..

[whiteboardanimation]

i play black legion right now but i want to specialized and since i had bloodletters and bezerkers i thought why not world eaters

[deathwaitsforevryone]

Omg in my wargaming club there's like a 75-25% ration of world eaters to other legions in the chaos players. Alpha Legion rule!

[whiteboardanimation]

im going to start a world eaters army i have all the models but i dont know what red is best for the army

any suggestions? thx

[lukeclews]

I'd go for a deep red, like blood, suits them more.

[WeedenProject]

Scab red with a devlan mud wash could work well

[Gamer0900]

I didn't understand that one bit. But 5 stars anyway.

[killerkin103]

kharn gets 7 attacks on the charge 5 normal 1 for charging and 1 for pistol

[Number1GamerAsh]

dude thats aswome ! kharn is a freeking nut case lol

[TheOrkDork]

the hell with the fails, just enjoy the video

[iamyourmom2]

sooo kharn won?

[Thorn12West]

Nice. Waaagh!

[werewolf9205]

well nice try XD

[CarlEldar]

Hahaha, Kharn is awesome.

"Kill Maim Burn, Kill Maim Burn, Kill Maim Burn, Kill Maim Burn, Kill Maim Burn, Kill Maim Burn, Kill Maim Burn, Kill Maim Burn, Kill Maim Burn"

[stannypk5k9]

lol

[EmoXxLinkinXxPark]

Kharn rulz

[weavile124]

7th

[powerofdestiny]

fail

[weavile124]

ur EPIC FAIL!!!

[powerofdestiny]

every fail has a gain. an epic fail means an epic gain!

[weavile124]

So that means i gained more then you :P FAGGOT.

[powerofdestiny]

why are we fighting, sorry but i hate having fights.

[weavile124]

Why are you fail?,i hate failures.

[powerofdestiny]

i'm not a fail. All i was doing was calling people that said "1st!" "2nd!" etc fails...

[weavile124]

Your still fail.

[cardnals100]

Khaaarn!!!

[ShiningExcellence]

Daemon Prince!!!!!!!!

[powerofdestiny]

FAIL!!!

[weavile124]

ur moms fail

[powerofdestiny]

u fail for commenting on my fails WHICH were only for the number ppl...

[middleearth5]

4th

[DrstunPvP]

u r not nice men !

[powerofdestiny]

FAAAAAIIILLLL!!!!!!

[Haydeez64]

Pretty sweet. i like to see chaos content every once and a while.

[powerofdestiny]

you fail!