@saffnpepa You're not far off the truth on this one. Professor Nutt provides his rich 'patients' with large quantities of dexedrine at his clinic in Chelsea and Westminster hospital. Its a weird system and I can't figure out why he'd do that, breaking the law for seemingly no reason.
"if you take the job as an independant scientist aren't you constrained?", what a dilluded, weak minded bitch. he's not taking sides, he's stating facts! facts should not be and can't be constrained by anything let alone wrongly educated politicians with only one mission... to stay in power.
CANNABIS was NEVER a Class A drug and didn't go to Class B from class A. It went from Class C to Class B out of Governmental Power-Display... basically saying, we're the Government and can do what ever the fuck we want; even when it's wrong and illegal!
Guy Fawkes had his chance and blew it... maybe his idea should be re-thought of!
@saffnpepa "my claims are also backed up by science" Then provide references to peer-reviewed papers. Your experiences and that of other are nothing more than anecdotes with the lowest of evidentiary value. You can't "dictate" on the basis of anecdotal evidence. You don't know what you are talking about and have zero understanding of pharmacology or human physiology.
@saffnpepa There is no evidence for your claims regarding psychoactive drugs. There is as much evidence for your claim as there is for the claims of politicians that MDMA and cannabis are more dangerous than cigarettes and alcohol. Many more people benefit from the medicines prerscribed by psychiatrists than suffer ill-effects or death. The point of the Nutt campaign is to guide all drug policy by evidence not nonsense regardless of its source.
i mean unless you cook it yourself you know whats init, people who say mdma is not around is coz its not around the public and left for those who know how to make it and for there friends. otherwise most likely you got speed pcp viagra anythig really even research chemicals
I reckon mdma needs to be put next to other prescribed pills to show it's less harmful and with mdma legal in a theraputical way 1 could have a pill every week to 2+ instead of a pill a day. 1 could sit here all day and name the benifits, but every1 who has there doubts goes on the old data(some injected with meth instead of mdma) and makin it illegal makes it so much more dangerous, leaving dodgy cooks to make dodgier products with anything in it with no trace of mdma, unless you cook it urself
Its actually UNBELIEVABLE the level of ignorance and just LAZYNESS on the government's part surrounding this issue...they think that as long as they put out the fake propaganda about weed being 'dangerous' it will just postpone the eventual time they will have to face the TRUTH and legalise the stuff...they are outright lying to the public and its unnacceptable.
The fear parents have about the lies they have heard that weed will make their children crazy and the fear of their children going to prison ruin families.
Also the fact that weed can only be found in the black market means that parents are scared that their children might get into trouble with the wrong type of people.
@SirWinstonChurchill Hitler would be proud at the level of Government lies to the public about this drug issue, he would be proud that we now live in a facsist country where a person is fired for speaking the scientific truth, just becuase its a bit more paperwork and a loss of face for the politicians in charge of the matter. sad really.
What?! What??! No! Noooo, please say that i got it wrong! Did Gordon Brown say Cannabis is a lethal drug?
If so, Britains were under thread of extinction, weren't they? Can't be much more left than a thousand of you then! LOL Thought german goverment would be most idiotic goverment in the world. I must admit I might be wrong with that.
It fucking infuriates me that the government would do such a thing as to ignore scientific advice and carry on enforcing their own corrupt, misinformed agenda. They don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about. This dumb bitch reporter doesn't even know the class of cannabis, so I assume she knows fuck all about the drug - as does most of the general public - something that plays into the government's hands when scaremongering the public into thinking cannabis is 'lethal'
Id love to know what led Gordon Brown to believe that cannabis can be 'lethal'. That simply isnt true, Ive NEVER heard of a single death being caused from the use of cannabis, so Brown is either incredibly stupid or he's a lying b*stard. Considering he was in charge of the country, its kind of unsettling to think that either one of those is true...
professor nutt has a RESPONSIBILITY to have INTEGRITY as a professional and as a person he gives his professional opinion and gets fired. this country is shit under labour and will be MUCH MUCH worse under conservatives, im voting lib dem as there the only people who seem even slightly clued up with todays society. We love you David :)
David nutt did provide scientific advice. It would be a contradiction to provide advice time after time and see this advice being ignored. If politicians are going to ignore the scientific advice he puts foward, he, in my opinion, has a duty to question the choices made by politicians which omit reference to his scientific findings. The politicians sure as hell are not going to point out that they're acting contrary what the evidence suggests should happen.
its made illegal because our goverment control our lesiure time with alchohol and tobacco resulting in employment for breweries, hospitals, cancer research etc and a big cash bonus from the tax we pay. Grow your own :)
THERE IS A SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION OF THE WORD "LETHAL" ...........in case you did not know it BITCH!
Lethal means causes death and cannabis is not a toxic substance and there is no way in hell it causes overdose fatalities. Even if it is grown in water and is a hybrid plant.
He refused to lie. Search Fox News Killer Weed video on youtube. The Americans try to claim the weed can kill you too.
i dont think the government should have the right to tell us whats good for us. The world is becoming over populated because of all these laws to keep us alive for longer. What happened to the 'darwin theory of natural selection' with health and safety its hard to see how anyone could will die of stupidity
It should be sink or swim, not everyone were arm bands and life jackets
mate of mine (ex junkie and alcoholic) is now addicted to religion ,what I want to know is that twat johnson going to ban that now . Alan get back to your round you self serving opinionated bastard
If the religion is coersive and practices mind control (like cults)then that is harmful and you could prosecute the religios leaders on that basis. But if the religion does not practice mind control, then it is not harmful, nor is such worship/faith considered an addiction. So no, it cant be banned on a non-harmful basis. It would be akin to banning celebrating christmas .
A number of popes and Oliver Cromwell did ban Christmas. Sugar is added to a whole range of foodstuffs for no reason other than to addict people - sugar = bad teeth, diabetes, obesity, high blood pressure. Primates have a digestive system designed to break down carbs and starches from fruits and vegetables into their sugars, not designed for processed sugar. Hence WHO advice on cutting sugar intake.
EVERY religion practises mind control! If they can feed you fantasies and fairy tales about invisible omnipotent deities from the sky and YOU BELIEVE IT UNQUESTIONINGLY, how is that NOT coercive and controlling?
Just because it's a delusion suffered by millions doesn't make it less delusional, it only means that far more people are gullible and uneducated enough to fall for it.
We need to bump up our educational standards and teach people critical thinking...THAT might finally fix things.
religion isnt a delusion, its a faith. faith is not necessarily mind control. critical thinking is an inherited ability to do with intelligence, its not necessarily something all people can learn.
Faith is essentially acceptance without proof or reason.
Unfortunately, you are completely correct when you say that many people aren't capable of critical thinking, but I think that it has more to do with the fact that people can't be bothered.
Most people will jump out of the way of a speeding truck, but really, it's mostly because of involuntary reflex, or maybe the big "DODGE" on the front of it...not because they are capable of thinking clearly or rationally...
Pardon my cynicism, but how is hearing someone say that they believe the universe is 6000 years old created by an invisible fairy in the sky, and then telling the person who "explained this position to you" that they are absolutely right...how does this enhance their ability to think rationally?
As for critical thinking, it only takes a very small amount of honest thought before people are capable of seeing that fantasies do not equate to reality...no matter how many people reinforce ignorance.
Psycholological dependence, not addiction. Read the medical literature...and a medical dictionary.
OK, legalization would save Canada about 2.5 BILLION a year, bring in about 2-3 BILLION in legitimate business income and sales taxes. That's 4-5.5 BILLION saved annually. US estimates are approximately 10 times that.
In both countries, that savings/profit could be turned toward HEALTH CARE and treatment of other, more dangerous drug problems that DO have physical addiction.
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its not me who needs a medical dictionary dude...addiction is a dependence, theyre pretty interchangeable.. addiction and dependence both destroy finance/abilty to work etc/ cost fortunes for the state to cure etc not to mention time off work destroys economy..
ok, so a govt might make a bit of money off tax but the destruction to health doesnot outweigh a destroyed economy....how society gonna function if everyones high all the time? you douche
very sorry MoonAM but I accidentally deleted one of your posts as I hit delete instead of reply, I apologise for that -
The nations health[USA] was very poor during prohibition due to most people drinking moonshine which was ofetn topped up with ethinol -
By 1926, most of the problems were worse than they had been before Prohibition went into effect and there were a number of new problems -- such as a drinking epidemic among children -- that had not been there before.
Correct! Since it was unavailable legally, people set about making their own. They fermented the wrong ingredients and created the wrong types of alcohol, ethanol the predominant contaminant, the same type used in fuel today.
They used lead solder when building their homemade stills, which caused a vast increased in lead poisoning.
The combination was deadly.
Since alcohol was illegal, organizations sprang up to supply the demand, leading to gangs, violence, and excessive murder rates
OK, let's take your angle, that legalizing cannabis would cause more problems.
Cannabis oil is a KNOWN cure for cancer. BILLIONS of dollars lost to pharmaceuticals could easiy be recouped. Bad thing?
How EXACTLY does a cure for cancer, treatment for glaucoma, insulin regulator for diabetes, symptom mitigator for Crone's disease and colitis...how does that--while saving BILLIONS in health care costs--make the world a lesser place to exist, while YOUR PROPAGANDA makes the world better?
Alan Johnson came into the restaurant where I work a few days before the whole drugs row came about... If I had know sooner I would have slipped some hash into his dessert. Maybe then it would have relieved his NARROW mind!!
UK Facts : alcohol killed 9k people a year, tobacco 7k, ecstacy: 28 people. What is Nutt trying to tell us? Hes telling us the truth and the science behind it, while the government is trying to fool us with their piece of shit propaganda.
And that interviewer bitch is a piece of shit that obviously knows nothing either. someone shove a broom up her ass.
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thats just statistics tho...hardly anybody takes ecstacy..if as many people took ecstacy as the amount of people who took booze and fags then the harm level would be greater...everyone would end up in a mental hospital for a start...Nutt is thoroughly irresponsible and his argument is not sound
Your statement seems predicated on the mistaken idea that with legalization comes instant societal breakdown, but we've already seen alcohol prohibition in the US degrade society, only to see society restore itself once the prohibition was lifted.
There are not millions of idiots waiting for legalization to become heroin addicts...but your viewpoint represents the perspective that this wilfully ignorant theory has any merit to it at all.
YOU might want to become an addict, but most won't.
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prohibition degraded US society?
Im not with you?
Surely alcoholism/liver disease went down, no??
Also, most people who experiment with drugs do become addicts..have u never heard of the term "addiction" ...if the chances to experiment are legalised and therefore more prevalent then addiction will necessarily rise.
Cannabis is not physically addictive. In some cases it may cause psychological dependence. As it does not cause physical addiction, behaviour modification is enough to "treat" this dependence.
Psychological dependence is NOT addiction.
Alcoholism is still a risk today, but it's legal, and the vast majority of people are NOT alcoholics, despite the fact that every single person I've ever met has "experimented" with alcohol.
Prohibition creates more problems than it solves. Period.
*Note: Psychological dependence is not PHYSICAL addiction. It's far easier to release a person from a psychological dependence than a physical addiction.
I met a guy in high school who had a heroin habit that he kicked, but he never could quit smoking...and many studies have since confirmed that nicotine/tobacco is more physically addictive than heroin.
Add to this the "habit" of smoking, and you've got a double-whammy of physical addiction & psychological dependence.
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"release a person from psychological dependence" ... but why would you want to create that dependence in the first place?
So tobacco is a poison and hard to quit..so why u want to add another, similar poison to the list?
have u ever been addicted to drugs? It wrecks your life.
And pot contains a hundred times more tar than tobacco and causes lung cancer..go check out the data...im sorry but just cos you "like" smoking pot isnt a scientific argument to legalise it. nutts wrong.
cannabis has been proved to help PREVENT and TREAT some cancers - I have recovered from cancer and use cannabis as a pain-killer and mood enhancer to no ill-effect. MoonAharshMistress, you say check out the data, but I wonder where you get your information from?
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I get my research from living within soc. and observing the chronic effects of psychoactive drugs on my friends, relatives,colleges & local community. Its strange this method is so dissed as "unscientific" by the "scientific community" but thats just a hierarchy paradigmn were all supposed to bow down to . Scientists expect and are given (and are affronted when not given: hence the colleagues resigning on Nutts behalf) unquestioned status and clout, personal experience and common sense is not.
which means your evidence and my own of equal value as mine is from personal experience and not from scientific evidence. As a smoker of cannabis for 40 years . During 20 years as a psychiatric nurse and 15 as a teacher, I have met literally thousands of cannabis users, including some who have adverse psychological effects - and a lot more who did not; from that experience I can honestly say that cannabis is relatively harmless in comparison with most other human activities. The risk is minimal.
I have detailed experience on sugar and alcohol addiction, and basically everyone is addicted to coffee and tobacco. sugar addiction is costing the health systems around the world tons of money, and we all know about alcohol, no need to elaborate. now you tell me, I'm supposed to sit still and let any government in the world just deliberate that sugar is fine and can be sold in all quantities and mixtures to anyone anywhere, but oh ecstasy! that is bad.
yes, right. please check out diabetes type 2, how it happens, and how the numbers are growing. Sugar is in terms of numbers with alcohol the biggest additiction agent in the world. Sugar, as a chemical ingredient, is necessary in some forms for humans. But in the forms in which you can find it in your local supermarket on 3 olympic sized shelves, its just very very bad.
yes. processsed sugar causes diabetes youre right. But thats because people eat it in excess, not that somehow it is a poison to us.
It becomes a problem because western people are greedy and lazy and stuff their face, do not cook fresh food and do no exercise. Then they wonder why they got diabetes and demand that doctors find them "a cure".
NATURAL suger isn't bad. PROCESSED sugar is, and especially the prediominant form in use today: High Fructose Corn Syrup.
HFCS is found in almost every consumable product on the market today, and it's not any surprise that diabetes and other conditions are skyrocketing in all "developed" nations.
The human digestive system is designed to process natural elements INTO sugars, not highly-refined and PROCESSED sugars.
Little facts that people don't know WILL kill them eventually...
@MoonAharshMistress The majority of the problem today is really the high-fructose corn syrup that is in almost every consumer product today. I'd be susprised if they didn't use it in aircraft manufacture anymore...
Natural sugar (e.g: evaporated cane juice) can be utilized by the body, it's these "frankenfood products" that the body has such bad reactions to.
Gotta love Monsanto for "redesigning" everything to fit corporate profit strategies...too bad they kill thousands of people to do it.
@MoonAharshMistress your social expereience is im afraid to say completely limited to your own perspective. Whereas a scientist is paid to conduct experiments, test drugs and also research the impact on a larger reflective social circle.
so, by that premise we should not use any drugs at all in medicine, or anaesthetic for dental treatment, or pain killers, because someone sometime will have an adverse effect from them - silly point of argument really!
@pinkybob Youre young..Why wreck your whole life giving money to dealers &their middle-aged medic friends in high places? They will take yr money, yr potential, yr health & eventually yr life. Sure. But will Drs' like Nutt give a s**t, care that you are on the sick &cant earn a living..will it effect his kids and spouse..nope, only yours. Will they come & wipe yr brow after you have a fever for years and cant see straight from yr stroke?
2Nope..they wont give a s**t. They will be too busy making money, looking after their own & sitting pretty. That is how the top people in our society work. parasites preying on the youth.
The irony is, the drs who sign you on the sick will say: "its your own fault, my dear, you should never have taken drugs in the first place."
she's an idiot at the start she sais 'from the decision to reclasify cannabis from a class a to a class b, shoulda been class b to class c fuckin idiot. Help confuse people even more why dont you.
Starting at 2:22 She blatantly said "don't you think you should just say what the government wants you to say?" That's fucking scary. I mean really... just think about it. Personally I think the nazi's won and went to extraordinary lengths to make everyone believe they didn't...
What really drives me around the bend is that Rhubarb is a dangerous substance and the friggin stuff grows wherever there's a ditch or a neighbor's fence.
More folks will be killed next year by unwanted and unnecessary Rhubarb pie / cookies than whatever we're talking about here.
" What? really drives me around the bend is that Rhubarb is a dangerous substance "
So are potatoes. They are a member of the same solanaceae family as "deadly nightshade", and their berries can kill you. Or get you really high - but I wouldn't do that, because the difference between effective dose and lethal dose is very small. Did you know potatoes come from Peru? :)
Check out:
The glycoalkaloid content of potato berries, by David T. Coxon (Article)
Jussatween y'all an muhseff...I really can't see many people sitting around in tie-dyed t-shirts playing the Grateful Dead and saying "Dood...don't Bogart that tater..." ya know what I mean?!
Then again, noone ever expected that Bayer Pharmaceuticals would be the one to create heroin...arguably the most dangerous "illicit drug" in the world...or that almost noone would know this fact once they dropped production when they couldn't patent it & maintain their profit margins...
True! It was "legal" for 10 millennia before the 1930's propaganda war started, and to this day, there's never been a single case of overdose from cannabis or cannabis derivatives such as hash, hash oil, tinctures, brownies, et cetera.
you can smoke cannabis without tobacco, , eat it, vaporise it, use as an incense, infuse in a poultice or in a base oil or cream, drunk as in a tea or dissolved in alcohol.
Some of the reasons for demonising cannabis lie in the fact that it can be used to produce, clothing, paper, building materials, fuel, medicines and so much more, all of which threaten the profits of the oil/petrochemical, cotton, alcohol, pharm-industries.- google Jack Herer author of the book The Emperor Wears No Clothes
In no way am i going to advocate on behalf of oil companies. Of course nature is superior in an ethical way to an artificial way of life, but it cant solve everything.
The profit margins of producing nylon clothes etc is still going to be higher than farming natural cotton/leather/silk/fur etc products which would require vast swathes of land for the current populations & that is why these items of clothing are niche & expensive. So cannabis doesnt affect
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or threaten big business at all. It is not a wonder crop anymore than hemp or rope or wood is, at best its just a raw material with limited use
To say cannabis alleviates some symptoms of sickness (like MS) is true. To say, therefore cannabis is safe, or imbues health to a healthy person, or even restores health is erroneous. It is a pyschoactive chemical that people abuse for recreational reasons for the very reason to gain "the high" feeling, which itself is "an overdose" of THC.
Sure, more research needs to be done, or ingredients extracted and
I am sorry to hear u had cancer. I have not said im against medicinal drugs.. i once had injuries myself and would not have got through without heavy use of morphine..that does not mean i would agree with legalising the availabilty of morphine for otherwise healthy people. Certainly not. It was a strong drug that made me high and made me want more of it and I know that. Doesnt mean i want to legalise it.
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It is outrageous Nutt, not oly said what he did, but is so jumped up as to grandstand againt politicians regarding their refusal to listen to him over his position over the legalisation of street drugs which he knows otherwise healthy people will abuse. i cant believe it, really.
These scientists
making names for themselves whilst seeing rest of society as mere mortals and guinea pigs.
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Scientists dont live my guile or brawn, they
make a living on the mental plain:by brain & reasoning. The quality, rigor & inspiration of ones reasoning/cognitive ability is maintained by a healthy brain, and thus a healthy brain will be in direct proportion to their career success in life.
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intuitively, never to take drugs & respect an preserve the quality of ThEIR brain, then how much more wrong is it to advocate the "safety" of those drugs to a generation of impressionable, uninformed kids with potential who dont know better. Its like Nutts saying: "I can distance myself, Im a scientist..I would never participate myself, but Ive done the research ,made a stats calculation, so that doesnt make me a hypocrite, it makes me a scientist" etc.
NOONE advocates underage, or uninformed use! Many doctors, lawyers, police officers, judges & more use cannabis, and not a single one of them (none I've met, anyway) does it on the job, which could at least slightly compromise their abilities.
When I went in for surgery, they gave me valium to get me relaxed (worked!) and then demerol to finish it. (also worked!) From experience, those two drugs are FAR MORE DANGEROUS than cannabis!
I advocate 100% INFORMED decisions...not propaganda.
@MoonAharshMistress thoses impressionable and uninformed kids are the same kids who stand outside offlicenses asking passers by to buy them alcohol. I'd rather my son smoked cannabis, than drank alcohol which despite what you beleive, is still a drug. A bunch of young stoners sitting around giggling and putting wholesome effort into creative ideas, is far more constructive that causing fights in the local, and lifting girls skirts up while procceding to say "get your rat out."
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Lol. Youre right. Cannabis is a lot more civilised. Cokes handy if you want to get a girl into bed and valiums a good idea if u need to chill out and kick off for a bit.
Actually, my grandfather, a friend from high school, and a family friend all died of cancer...and if I'd known about NATURAL Cannabis Oil curing various forms of cancer at the time, at least two of those people would still be alive today. I figure Grandpa would have still died by now, but he'd have had a few more years, and of significantly higher quality.
As to morphine, it IS legal! Funny thing...it's REGULATED, so it's a lot harder to get in schoolyards because of that! See my point?
Actually, at one point, more than 30% of all medical preparations were either based on, or contained cannabis extracts, so the pharmaceutical companies WILL suffer somewhat when cannabis is re-legalized.
Cotton growers are terrified of hemp fiber being "flooded on the market" destroying their profits.
As to health, if the pure, natural extracted cannabis oil can CURE TERMINAL LUNG CANCER, I'd say it's safe. q;o)
There is no LD-50 rating for THC, therefore, there is NO POSSIBILITY of OD
And yes, you can smoke cannabis without tobacco. You are, besides from not being very smart, not very well read either. Why don't you get som information instead of just guessing and forming opinions through your emotions?
Legalize it and then make its use compulsory. The world would be a better place to live. Its a sad world we live in where there is more intelligance and truth in youtube comments than in the mainstream media.Lets just hope prof nutt is the first snowflake in a giant snowball.
I don't know about "compulsory" use, but it would be interesting to see all the politicians who've fought against re-legalizing cannabis for the last 70+ years to sit back and smoke a joint.
Maybe then they'd have sense enough to understand that when something isn't dangerous, it's not to be feared...except by the wilfully ignorant.
Ok, compulsory use was a little on the extreme side but seriously I do think the use of cannabis and other psychedelic drugs can be very beneficial to the human race.
In the USA, it is a "Schedule I Drug" meaning that it "has no accepted medical application"...well...except for US Patent #6630507, which explains that it's an antioxidant and a neuroprotectant...contrary to the public claims it kills brain cells. (Often and repeatedly cited from a DISCREDITED STUDY by the ignorant!)
In Canada, it is a "Schedule 2", which is still restrictected far more than any of the truly dangerous drugs that pharmacies deal every day.
the worst thing about this is the government would actually see serious benefits from legalising, or at the least decriminalising, cannabis. their reason for acting so irrationally is a prehistoric moral opposition to drugs that is based on currying favour with middle england rather than pragmatism.
however as more and more polls come out showing the majority favour legalisation we should hopefully see steps towards it at least within a decade (after the tories of course).
Decriminalization won't work as a long-term strategy. This will allow personal and medical use, and will reopen the ability to test scientifically, but will also fail over time.
Decriminalization: "It's still illegal, but we'll let you do it if you pay us gobs of money, and we can still arrest you whenever we deem it profitable to do so."
Full legalization lets people do what they please, so long as they harm noone else, and in those cases, laws already exist to protect those harmed.
Through my training and work with drugs and alcahol i can honestly say the prof is right. Alcahol and cigs are far more dangerous than some drugs. its time for the people of this country to stand up to the government. They lie, cheat, keep us in the dark and ignore us.We need to start questioning them and not be fobbed off with anymore lies.
True. I've been soking since I was 13, and been trying to quit since I was about 19. Repeatedly. Turns out that I'm allergic to bupropion hydrochloride...otherwise known as "Zyban."
Interesting that I can relatively easily tolerate the 2000+ chemical compounds in tobacco, but I'm allergic to the ONE chemical supposed to help me quit? Hmmm...
Funny...when I left college, I didn't smoke a joint for ~5 years. Then another 15-18 years before I had another...yet they say pot's addictive?!?
Pretty fucked up really. Fuck sake, why do we let these fucking monkeys run the country when wise people like nutt have a forward thinking plan, not just a political motive. What happened when weed got reclassified is its cost rose by about 150% street end and people started selling coke again because quite frankly its the same price. Just pathetic. Where has the voice of the public gone? Does what we as the people have to say make any difference at all? Remember remember the 5th of november.
"It is about choice. I wish to use cannabis [which has been scientifically proven as less harmful than alcohol and tobacco]."-norisnuvo.
MY FUCKING CHOICE and let me say, stay the fuck outta my buisness and i will stay out of yours..thats what i gotta say to these people who wanna demonise a plant they know NOTHING about.
Its ok for you people who want to just sit back and watch all the political nonesense on tv and 'thier' views on cannabis and 'trust' what they say, well...YOUR not the ones in pain demonising a 'drug' that could ease the suffering of thousands..
Cannabis should not even be a drug and who placed it under 'drug'?...its a fucking HERB...a PLANT....this is the FUNDAMENTAL information on cannabis and everybody seems to have missed it?
It is a tiresome subject but, if you keep telling people the CORRECT information about cannabis, it actually DOES get through to people.
My brother has crohns sydrome and cannabis could probably cure him or ease his suffering BUT under manmade "LAW" on cannabis, my brother would be classed as a criminal?
Now, coming from a right wing family it was HARD to tell them anything, but i told my mother to ask a hospital surgeon or doctor for advice, ...NOW she is asking questions....
It is about choice. I wish to use cannabis [which has been scientifically proven as less harmful than alcohol and tobacco].
I wish to make an informed choice without some politician saying I can't - I have used cannabis for over thirty years with no ill effect. I have numerous friends and associates who have also been using cannabis for a similar time with no problems
This government lies and cheats and tries to suppress the truth in many areas. They are now being exposed for what they are
EXPOSURE..yes, lets hope so, lets HOPE sheep people cotton onto this and question the ideaology of a politicians polices on cannabis classification, lets just hope anti cannabis people WAKE up and see what has been happening in the political world and how cannabis has earned these pigs money for keeping it illegal, lets just hope people lose FAITH in the cannabis laws and except that thier nieghbours, friends, policeman , judges, doctors, teachers and parents all smoke weed!.
@saffnpepa You're not far off the truth on this one. Professor Nutt provides his rich 'patients' with large quantities of dexedrine at his clinic in Chelsea and Westminster hospital. Its a weird system and I can't figure out why he'd do that, breaking the law for seemingly no reason.
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"if you take the job as an independant scientist aren't you constrained?", what a dilluded, weak minded bitch. he's not taking sides, he's stating facts! facts should not be and can't be constrained by anything let alone wrongly educated politicians with only one mission... to stay in power.
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pedlin2 1 month ago
WHY IGNORE SUCH AN INTELLIGENT MAN ???
OH YEAH BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SUIT YOUR NEW WORLD ORDER !!!
R0CK0ND0N 1 month ago
If normal wild-grown cannabis wasn't illegal then Skunk would never have been invented.
nicknameSGB 1 month ago
CANNABIS was NEVER a Class A drug and didn't go to Class B from class A. It went from Class C to Class B out of Governmental Power-Display... basically saying, we're the Government and can do what ever the fuck we want; even when it's wrong and illegal!
Guy Fawkes had his chance and blew it... maybe his idea should be re-thought of!
Itsmeeman1 1 month ago
@saffnpepa Then it should be easy for you to substantiate your claims by referencing peer-reviewed journal articles.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@saffnpepa "my claims are also backed up by science" Then provide references to peer-reviewed papers. Your experiences and that of other are nothing more than anecdotes with the lowest of evidentiary value. You can't "dictate" on the basis of anecdotal evidence. You don't know what you are talking about and have zero understanding of pharmacology or human physiology.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@saffnpepa There is no evidence for your claims regarding psychoactive drugs. There is as much evidence for your claim as there is for the claims of politicians that MDMA and cannabis are more dangerous than cigarettes and alcohol. Many more people benefit from the medicines prerscribed by psychiatrists than suffer ill-effects or death. The point of the Nutt campaign is to guide all drug policy by evidence not nonsense regardless of its source.
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xDUBK4Tx 4 months ago
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There's a Government E-petition to legalise Cannabis. Once it reaches 100,000 signatures, it legally has to go to Parliament:
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0ct0parr0t 4 months ago
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we really do not need politicians only scientists to advise the public and police and armed forces etc etc etc.
EBOWARRIOR 5 months ago
i mean unless you cook it yourself you know whats init, people who say mdma is not around is coz its not around the public and left for those who know how to make it and for there friends. otherwise most likely you got speed pcp viagra anythig really even research chemicals
IndoleHallucinogener 6 months ago
I reckon mdma needs to be put next to other prescribed pills to show it's less harmful and with mdma legal in a theraputical way 1 could have a pill every week to 2+ instead of a pill a day. 1 could sit here all day and name the benifits, but every1 who has there doubts goes on the old data(some injected with meth instead of mdma) and makin it illegal makes it so much more dangerous, leaving dodgy cooks to make dodgier products with anything in it with no trace of mdma, unless you cook it urself
IndoleHallucinogener 6 months ago
We need more scientists and less politicians.
garageflower2002 7 months ago 10
love this vid
MRr0ck101 8 months ago
i hate this interview bitch shes a dumb cocksucker
immytown 8 months ago
@immytown i accidently voted ur comment down i meant to vote it up lol
ukessko 7 months ago in playlist uk cannabis
1:51 professor nutt says "my goal in life is to reduce the harms of drug use."
Seems to me the goverments goal in life is to increase the harms of drug use.
No wonder they sacked him, he's got the opposite goal to the goverment.
AlltimeTrance 11 months ago
One word to the fucking goverment.
Alcohol?
Hypocritical Bastards.
AlltimeTrance 11 months ago
Its actually UNBELIEVABLE the level of ignorance and just LAZYNESS on the government's part surrounding this issue...they think that as long as they put out the fake propaganda about weed being 'dangerous' it will just postpone the eventual time they will have to face the TRUTH and legalise the stuff...they are outright lying to the public and its unnacceptable.
tiddlywinks98712 11 months ago
@tiddlywinks98712
It's a fucking disgrace.
millions dead in the world wars, fighting for our country so we could vote.
What's worse not voting for a goverment party?
Or not having an honest goverment party to vote for?
AlltimeTrance 11 months ago
Also weed doesn't ruin families...
The fear parents have about the lies they have heard that weed will make their children crazy and the fear of their children going to prison ruin families.
Also the fact that weed can only be found in the black market means that parents are scared that their children might get into trouble with the wrong type of people.
Weed is safe.
Making it illegal makes it harmful to society.
RandomDirectors 1 year ago 5
politicians of the UK. they cannot admit to their ignorance, they are the most unwise people in the country.
Genieboy92 1 year ago 2
My mates Doc VERY VERY SMART MAN alan johnson is a very very DUMB MAN, small mind
combovergi 1 year ago
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YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH
Asapoo 1 year ago
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U CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH
Asapoo 1 year ago
Islam forbids alcohol.
Hitler hated alcohol.
Churchill loved alcohol.
Welcome to Saudi Britain?
Fuck off you tossers!
SirWinstonChurchill 1 year ago
@SirWinstonChurchill Hitler would be proud at the level of Government lies to the public about this drug issue, he would be proud that we now live in a facsist country where a person is fired for speaking the scientific truth, just becuase its a bit more paperwork and a loss of face for the politicians in charge of the matter. sad really.
tiddlywinks98712 11 months ago
TO PUT IT SIMPLY THE COUNTRY'S EXPERT ON DRUGS IS FIRED FOR TELLING THE TRUTH .
topbluffa1 1 year ago 53
@topbluffa1 Yup.
thesenamesaretaken 1 year ago
0:11 supposed to be "class C to class B"
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago
What?! What??! No! Noooo, please say that i got it wrong! Did Gordon Brown say Cannabis is a lethal drug?
If so, Britains were under thread of extinction, weren't they? Can't be much more left than a thousand of you then! LOL Thought german goverment would be most idiotic goverment in the world. I must admit I might be wrong with that.
Cheers Buddies
Davidoff73 1 year ago
nutt is a good man who has been betrayed by the evil nazi uk goverment wich is my goverment, i cannot believe i live in the intollerent uk
futurama450 1 year ago 2
The most dangerous thing about weed is when i owe my dealer money.
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pokerbonuscode 1 year ago
I agree with the professor
Greig1424 1 year ago
WE are the one wanting to do the drugs. instead of this whole deal being based on politicians making money from keeping this plant illegal.
They have chosen there riches and fortunes From the Alchohol Adminstration. and Prescription Drug Companies. over the rights of American citizen.
And i think they should ALL BE SHOT IN THE HEAD EXECUTION STYLE
lawlmann 1 year ago
Professor Nutt is a true hero for free speech.
TallonTron 1 year ago 3
It fucking infuriates me that the government would do such a thing as to ignore scientific advice and carry on enforcing their own corrupt, misinformed agenda. They don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about. This dumb bitch reporter doesn't even know the class of cannabis, so I assume she knows fuck all about the drug - as does most of the general public - something that plays into the government's hands when scaremongering the public into thinking cannabis is 'lethal'
LEGALISE.
thrashmetalteen 1 year ago 2
"Yes, that's right kids. Science proves that Marijuana is actually good for you. Go figure!" - wikiality marijuana
qnbs7 1 year ago
i love this guy
caing01 1 year ago
Id love to know what led Gordon Brown to believe that cannabis can be 'lethal'. That simply isnt true, Ive NEVER heard of a single death being caused from the use of cannabis, so Brown is either incredibly stupid or he's a lying b*stard. Considering he was in charge of the country, its kind of unsettling to think that either one of those is true...
PeteJones100 1 year ago 2
professor nutt has a RESPONSIBILITY to have INTEGRITY as a professional and as a person he gives his professional opinion and gets fired. this country is shit under labour and will be MUCH MUCH worse under conservatives, im voting lib dem as there the only people who seem even slightly clued up with todays society. We love you David :)
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kaspastarr 1 year ago
@kaspastarr I bet your gutted that your vote eventually ended up a conservative vote.
CrackaJack1986 9 months ago
@CrackaJack1986 Yh im never voting again! Votes have no value i understand that now. 64
kaspastarr 9 months ago
god bless that man
It is braver to speak the truth and stand alone rather than go along with popular belief and be in the crowd. x
eyesoflove1 1 year ago
professor nutt is a man of honour, good on him. check this clip on utube, [ how weed won the west]
irishgeal1 1 year ago
David nutt did provide scientific advice. It would be a contradiction to provide advice time after time and see this advice being ignored. If politicians are going to ignore the scientific advice he puts foward, he, in my opinion, has a duty to question the choices made by politicians which omit reference to his scientific findings. The politicians sure as hell are not going to point out that they're acting contrary what the evidence suggests should happen.
elmabullaz 1 year ago
Worst name to have prof. as a title with.
Cannabis is nowhere near as bad as tobacco this is coming from someone who has used both. Tobacco is cancer in stick form.
workingclassbum 1 year ago
YE WE call them cancer sticks
policematrix 1 year ago
@workingclassbum the effect of tobacco on the cardiovascular system is even more devastating (strokes) than the carcinogenic properties
qnbs7 1 year ago
MK ultra
DillaWorld 2 years ago
its made illegal because our goverment control our lesiure time with alchohol and tobacco resulting in employment for breweries, hospitals, cancer research etc and a big cash bonus from the tax we pay. Grow your own :)
19SeanMurphy79 2 years ago 4
cant agree more fuck our control freak goverment
ive smoked weed am i mad NO! Do i stab people No! does it give people cancer No SO WHY THE FUCK IS IT ILLEGAL!
B3SSR4DER 2 years ago 3
THERE IS A SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION OF THE WORD "LETHAL" ...........in case you did not know it BITCH!
Lethal means causes death and cannabis is not a toxic substance and there is no way in hell it causes overdose fatalities. Even if it is grown in water and is a hybrid plant.
He refused to lie. Search Fox News Killer Weed video on youtube. The Americans try to claim the weed can kill you too.
LIES! LIES!
MORE LIES!
superskunkfooker 2 years ago 3
She means class c at the beginning..
charlytheo2007 2 years ago 2
if its a choice between politicians and scientists i'm going with science
David nutt FTW
42ReDrUm42 2 years ago 4
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GORDON BROWN'S dickhead Marxist government FAILED to sort ANY of the problems out in TWELVE YEARS of misrule! Why bother to start now?!
Paste the below title into the bar for another angle on New Labour shambles in Britain today:
NEW LABOUR RUINS THE LEFTIST POT PARTY
(Gold-dumping, one-eyed, splurge-encouraging Scots arsehole!)
TheDustpile 2 years ago
i dont think the government should have the right to tell us whats good for us. The world is becoming over populated because of all these laws to keep us alive for longer. What happened to the 'darwin theory of natural selection' with health and safety its hard to see how anyone could will die of stupidity
It should be sink or swim, not everyone were arm bands and life jackets
WellieSong 2 years ago 4
wat a stupid bitch, class c to class b
not class a and class b
bongboy6969 2 years ago 4
To be fair though, professor Nutt didn't correct her - he was right next to her when she made that mistake?
intermender 2 years ago
cause he knew what she meant
YeahNigguhhh 2 years ago 2
yes, good point.
intermender 2 years ago
YouTube search: ceausescu voronin
the first clip is my clip :D
LegalizareRomania 2 years ago
mate of mine (ex junkie and alcoholic) is now addicted to religion ,what I want to know is that twat johnson going to ban that now . Alan get back to your round you self serving opinionated bastard
adrianbarratt 2 years ago
If the religion is coersive and practices mind control (like cults)then that is harmful and you could prosecute the religios leaders on that basis. But if the religion does not practice mind control, then it is not harmful, nor is such worship/faith considered an addiction. So no, it cant be banned on a non-harmful basis. It would be akin to banning celebrating christmas .
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
A number of popes and Oliver Cromwell did ban Christmas. Sugar is added to a whole range of foodstuffs for no reason other than to addict people - sugar = bad teeth, diabetes, obesity, high blood pressure. Primates have a digestive system designed to break down carbs and starches from fruits and vegetables into their sugars, not designed for processed sugar. Hence WHO advice on cutting sugar intake.
norrisnuvo 2 years ago
EVERY religion practises mind control! If they can feed you fantasies and fairy tales about invisible omnipotent deities from the sky and YOU BELIEVE IT UNQUESTIONINGLY, how is that NOT coercive and controlling?
Just because it's a delusion suffered by millions doesn't make it less delusional, it only means that far more people are gullible and uneducated enough to fall for it.
We need to bump up our educational standards and teach people critical thinking...THAT might finally fix things.
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
religion isnt a delusion, its a faith. faith is not necessarily mind control. critical thinking is an inherited ability to do with intelligence, its not necessarily something all people can learn.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
Faith is essentially acceptance without proof or reason.
Unfortunately, you are completely correct when you say that many people aren't capable of critical thinking, but I think that it has more to do with the fact that people can't be bothered.
Most people will jump out of the way of a speeding truck, but really, it's mostly because of involuntary reflex, or maybe the big "DODGE" on the front of it...not because they are capable of thinking clearly or rationally...
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
Lol. Its a good idea to be sceptical of peoples motives, but
I spose when a speeding truck is coming toward them , they clearly and rationally think:'' I suppose i ought to get out of the way now.'' lol : )
MoonAharshMistress 1 year ago
Pardon my cynicism, but how is hearing someone say that they believe the universe is 6000 years old created by an invisible fairy in the sky, and then telling the person who "explained this position to you" that they are absolutely right...how does this enhance their ability to think rationally?
As for critical thinking, it only takes a very small amount of honest thought before people are capable of seeing that fantasies do not equate to reality...no matter how many people reinforce ignorance.
TheRealElectroPig 1 year ago
LSD FTW!!!
unclesamfatg 2 years ago
Psycholological dependence, not addiction. Read the medical literature...and a medical dictionary.
OK, legalization would save Canada about 2.5 BILLION a year, bring in about 2-3 BILLION in legitimate business income and sales taxes. That's 4-5.5 BILLION saved annually. US estimates are approximately 10 times that.
In both countries, that savings/profit could be turned toward HEALTH CARE and treatment of other, more dangerous drug problems that DO have physical addiction.
Legalize!
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago 2
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its not me who needs a medical dictionary dude...addiction is a dependence, theyre pretty interchangeable.. addiction and dependence both destroy finance/abilty to work etc/ cost fortunes for the state to cure etc not to mention time off work destroys economy..
ok, so a govt might make a bit of money off tax but the destruction to health doesnot outweigh a destroyed economy....how society gonna function if everyones high all the time? you douche
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
very sorry MoonAM but I accidentally deleted one of your posts as I hit delete instead of reply, I apologise for that -
The nations health[USA] was very poor during prohibition due to most people drinking moonshine which was ofetn topped up with ethinol -
By 1926, most of the problems were worse than they had been before Prohibition went into effect and there were a number of new problems -- such as a drinking epidemic among children -- that had not been there before.
druglibrary org
norrisnuvo 2 years ago
Correct! Since it was unavailable legally, people set about making their own. They fermented the wrong ingredients and created the wrong types of alcohol, ethanol the predominant contaminant, the same type used in fuel today.
They used lead solder when building their homemade stills, which caused a vast increased in lead poisoning.
The combination was deadly.
Since alcohol was illegal, organizations sprang up to supply the demand, leading to gangs, violence, and excessive murder rates
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
thats ok . cant remember what it was i said. lol
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
You are a disinformation agent.
BCT071 2 years ago
OK, let's take your angle, that legalizing cannabis would cause more problems.
Cannabis oil is a KNOWN cure for cancer. BILLIONS of dollars lost to pharmaceuticals could easiy be recouped. Bad thing?
How EXACTLY does a cure for cancer, treatment for glaucoma, insulin regulator for diabetes, symptom mitigator for Crone's disease and colitis...how does that--while saving BILLIONS in health care costs--make the world a lesser place to exist, while YOUR PROPAGANDA makes the world better?
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago 3
You are not the brightest person in the world are you?
MrGuldfisk 1 year ago
i just signed the petition, although it will do no good. If they wont listen to renown experts they wont give a toss what we think
adrianbarratt 2 years ago 5
well done Dr Nutt! Don't stop telling the truth
t666pax 2 years ago 10
hahah she said reclassigfy from class a to a class b
stoxocube18 2 years ago
Alan Johnson came into the restaurant where I work a few days before the whole drugs row came about... If I had know sooner I would have slipped some hash into his dessert. Maybe then it would have relieved his NARROW mind!!
PadrethePio 2 years ago 2
UK Facts : alcohol killed 9k people a year, tobacco 7k, ecstacy: 28 people. What is Nutt trying to tell us? Hes telling us the truth and the science behind it, while the government is trying to fool us with their piece of shit propaganda.
And that interviewer bitch is a piece of shit that obviously knows nothing either. someone shove a broom up her ass.
tma579 2 years ago 6
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thats just statistics tho...hardly anybody takes ecstacy..if as many people took ecstacy as the amount of people who took booze and fags then the harm level would be greater...everyone would end up in a mental hospital for a start...Nutt is thoroughly irresponsible and his argument is not sound
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
Your statement seems predicated on the mistaken idea that with legalization comes instant societal breakdown, but we've already seen alcohol prohibition in the US degrade society, only to see society restore itself once the prohibition was lifted.
There are not millions of idiots waiting for legalization to become heroin addicts...but your viewpoint represents the perspective that this wilfully ignorant theory has any merit to it at all.
YOU might want to become an addict, but most won't.
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
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prohibition degraded US society?
Im not with you?
Surely alcoholism/liver disease went down, no??
Also, most people who experiment with drugs do become addicts..have u never heard of the term "addiction" ...if the chances to experiment are legalised and therefore more prevalent then addiction will necessarily rise.
Its really just that simple
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
Cannabis is not physically addictive. In some cases it may cause psychological dependence. As it does not cause physical addiction, behaviour modification is enough to "treat" this dependence.
Psychological dependence is NOT addiction.
Alcoholism is still a risk today, but it's legal, and the vast majority of people are NOT alcoholics, despite the fact that every single person I've ever met has "experimented" with alcohol.
Prohibition creates more problems than it solves. Period.
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
*Note: Psychological dependence is not PHYSICAL addiction. It's far easier to release a person from a psychological dependence than a physical addiction.
I met a guy in high school who had a heroin habit that he kicked, but he never could quit smoking...and many studies have since confirmed that nicotine/tobacco is more physically addictive than heroin.
Add to this the "habit" of smoking, and you've got a double-whammy of physical addiction & psychological dependence.
But it's legal.
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
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"release a person from psychological dependence" ... but why would you want to create that dependence in the first place?
So tobacco is a poison and hard to quit..so why u want to add another, similar poison to the list?
have u ever been addicted to drugs? It wrecks your life.
And pot contains a hundred times more tar than tobacco and causes lung cancer..go check out the data...im sorry but just cos you "like" smoking pot isnt a scientific argument to legalise it. nutts wrong.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
nutts wrong is he, yeah ok whatever. im pretty sure all the data is looked at by nutt but no obviously your right.
faris2k6 2 years ago 6
Well, since you know more about this than all of the scientists and medical professionals in the world, I guess you win, huh?
Cannabis contains approximately 517 chemicals, whereas tobacco contains over 2000.
Cannabis does NOT cause cancer, and is actually one of several naturel CURES for cancer.
Since I dont actually "like" smoking pot, despite your ignorance, once again, you prove yourself wrong.
You really need to get educated. FAST.
Learn the FACTS and skip the propaganda.
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
cannabis has been proved to help PREVENT and TREAT some cancers - I have recovered from cancer and use cannabis as a pain-killer and mood enhancer to no ill-effect. MoonAharshMistress, you say check out the data, but I wonder where you get your information from?
norrisnuvo 2 years ago
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I get my research from living within soc. and observing the chronic effects of psychoactive drugs on my friends, relatives,colleges & local community. Its strange this method is so dissed as "unscientific" by the "scientific community" but thats just a hierarchy paradigmn were all supposed to bow down to . Scientists expect and are given (and are affronted when not given: hence the colleagues resigning on Nutts behalf) unquestioned status and clout, personal experience and common sense is not.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
which means your evidence and my own of equal value as mine is from personal experience and not from scientific evidence. As a smoker of cannabis for 40 years . During 20 years as a psychiatric nurse and 15 as a teacher, I have met literally thousands of cannabis users, including some who have adverse psychological effects - and a lot more who did not; from that experience I can honestly say that cannabis is relatively harmless in comparison with most other human activities. The risk is minimal.
norrisnuvo 2 years ago
cannabis shud be legal and alcohol well... idk. Go and get pissed and beat your family and
b0grillaz 2 years ago
I have detailed experience on sugar and alcohol addiction, and basically everyone is addicted to coffee and tobacco. sugar addiction is costing the health systems around the world tons of money, and we all know about alcohol, no need to elaborate. now you tell me, I'm supposed to sit still and let any government in the world just deliberate that sugar is fine and can be sold in all quantities and mixtures to anyone anywhere, but oh ecstasy! that is bad.
iceddiamond 2 years ago
sugar isnt bad. nor is it addictive. primates need it to maintain their blood-sugar level.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
yes, right. please check out diabetes type 2, how it happens, and how the numbers are growing. Sugar is in terms of numbers with alcohol the biggest additiction agent in the world. Sugar, as a chemical ingredient, is necessary in some forms for humans. But in the forms in which you can find it in your local supermarket on 3 olympic sized shelves, its just very very bad.
RSTKPET 2 years ago
yes. processsed sugar causes diabetes youre right. But thats because people eat it in excess, not that somehow it is a poison to us.
It becomes a problem because western people are greedy and lazy and stuff their face, do not cook fresh food and do no exercise. Then they wonder why they got diabetes and demand that doctors find them "a cure".
Very silly really. But keeps capitalism going.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
NATURAL suger isn't bad. PROCESSED sugar is, and especially the prediominant form in use today: High Fructose Corn Syrup.
HFCS is found in almost every consumable product on the market today, and it's not any surprise that diabetes and other conditions are skyrocketing in all "developed" nations.
The human digestive system is designed to process natural elements INTO sugars, not highly-refined and PROCESSED sugars.
Little facts that people don't know WILL kill them eventually...
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
@MoonAharshMistress The majority of the problem today is really the high-fructose corn syrup that is in almost every consumer product today. I'd be susprised if they didn't use it in aircraft manufacture anymore...
Natural sugar (e.g: evaporated cane juice) can be utilized by the body, it's these "frankenfood products" that the body has such bad reactions to.
Gotta love Monsanto for "redesigning" everything to fit corporate profit strategies...too bad they kill thousands of people to do it.
TheRealElectroPig 1 year ago
OFF THE SUBJECT
policematrix 1 year ago
@MoonAharshMistress your social expereience is im afraid to say completely limited to your own perspective. Whereas a scientist is paid to conduct experiments, test drugs and also research the impact on a larger reflective social circle.
samjohnston88 2 years ago 2
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simple medical rule of thumb coming up from my limited perspective: if a drug is harmful for one person, chances are its harmful for others too.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
so, by that premise we should not use any drugs at all in medicine, or anaesthetic for dental treatment, or pain killers, because someone sometime will have an adverse effect from them - silly point of argument really!
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MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
the most harmful thing about drugs is the prihibition of them.
More people die from prohibition than the drugs themslves.
rory997 2 years ago 60
@MoonAharshMistress some people are allergic to penicillin...
pinkybob 1 year ago
@pinkybob Youre young..Why wreck your whole life giving money to dealers &their middle-aged medic friends in high places? They will take yr money, yr potential, yr health & eventually yr life. Sure. But will Drs' like Nutt give a s**t, care that you are on the sick &cant earn a living..will it effect his kids and spouse..nope, only yours. Will they come & wipe yr brow after you have a fever for years and cant see straight from yr stroke?
MoonAharshMistress 1 year ago
2Nope..they wont give a s**t. They will be too busy making money, looking after their own & sitting pretty. That is how the top people in our society work. parasites preying on the youth.
The irony is, the drs who sign you on the sick will say: "its your own fault, my dear, you should never have taken drugs in the first place."
If its a game they set up, you wont win it.
MoonAharshMistress 1 year ago
@MoonAharshMistress But some people ARE allergic to penicillin.
pinkybob 1 year ago
she's an idiot at the start she sais 'from the decision to reclasify cannabis from a class a to a class b, shoulda been class b to class c fuckin idiot. Help confuse people even more why dont you.
deriisaac 2 years ago 6
Starting at 2:22 She blatantly said "don't you think you should just say what the government wants you to say?" That's fucking scary. I mean really... just think about it. Personally I think the nazi's won and went to extraordinary lengths to make everyone believe they didn't...
AyoForYayo1990 2 years ago 10
sacked fot telling the truth i hate politics !!!!!
lted222 2 years ago 7
So what now? When can i smoke weed legal? The scientists are on our side!
hallonolove 2 years ago 2
What really drives me around the bend is that Rhubarb is a dangerous substance and the friggin stuff grows wherever there's a ditch or a neighbor's fence.
More folks will be killed next year by unwanted and unnecessary Rhubarb pie / cookies than whatever we're talking about here.
What are we talking about here, anyway...?
barrywilliamsmb 2 years ago 2
barrywilliamsmb,
" What? really drives me around the bend is that Rhubarb is a dangerous substance "
So are potatoes. They are a member of the same solanaceae family as "deadly nightshade", and their berries can kill you. Or get you really high - but I wouldn't do that, because the difference between effective dose and lethal dose is very small. Did you know potatoes come from Peru? :)
Check out:
The glycoalkaloid content of potato berries, by David T. Coxon (Article)
tigerone1970 2 years ago
Very informative....thank you! :)
foolishloser 2 years ago
Jussatween y'all an muhseff...I really can't see many people sitting around in tie-dyed t-shirts playing the Grateful Dead and saying "Dood...don't Bogart that tater..." ya know what I mean?!
Then again, noone ever expected that Bayer Pharmaceuticals would be the one to create heroin...arguably the most dangerous "illicit drug" in the world...or that almost noone would know this fact once they dropped production when they couldn't patent it & maintain their profit margins...
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
Of course, when we talk about legalising cannabis we're really talking about re-legalising it.
tyrone199 2 years ago 6
True! It was "legal" for 10 millennia before the 1930's propaganda war started, and to this day, there's never been a single case of overdose from cannabis or cannabis derivatives such as hash, hash oil, tinctures, brownies, et cetera.
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
You cant smoke cannabis without tobacco, so thats 2517 chemicals in total dude.
so whats this conspiratorial reason to propogandize against it , as you put it? cos they cant patent it?
Can you let me know cos I I dont buy High Times, for my information strangely enough.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
you can smoke cannabis without tobacco, , eat it, vaporise it, use as an incense, infuse in a poultice or in a base oil or cream, drunk as in a tea or dissolved in alcohol.
Some of the reasons for demonising cannabis lie in the fact that it can be used to produce, clothing, paper, building materials, fuel, medicines and so much more, all of which threaten the profits of the oil/petrochemical, cotton, alcohol, pharm-industries.- google Jack Herer author of the book The Emperor Wears No Clothes
norrisnuvo 2 years ago
ok, i look into that.
In no way am i going to advocate on behalf of oil companies. Of course nature is superior in an ethical way to an artificial way of life, but it cant solve everything.
The profit margins of producing nylon clothes etc is still going to be higher than farming natural cotton/leather/silk/fur etc products which would require vast swathes of land for the current populations & that is why these items of clothing are niche & expensive. So cannabis doesnt affect
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
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or threaten big business at all. It is not a wonder crop anymore than hemp or rope or wood is, at best its just a raw material with limited use
To say cannabis alleviates some symptoms of sickness (like MS) is true. To say, therefore cannabis is safe, or imbues health to a healthy person, or even restores health is erroneous. It is a pyschoactive chemical that people abuse for recreational reasons for the very reason to gain "the high" feeling, which itself is "an overdose" of THC.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
Sure, more research needs to be done, or ingredients extracted and
I am sorry to hear u had cancer. I have not said im against medicinal drugs.. i once had injuries myself and would not have got through without heavy use of morphine..that does not mean i would agree with legalising the availabilty of morphine for otherwise healthy people. Certainly not. It was a strong drug that made me high and made me want more of it and I know that. Doesnt mean i want to legalise it.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
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It is outrageous Nutt, not oly said what he did, but is so jumped up as to grandstand againt politicians regarding their refusal to listen to him over his position over the legalisation of street drugs which he knows otherwise healthy people will abuse. i cant believe it, really.
These scientists
making names for themselves whilst seeing rest of society as mere mortals and guinea pigs.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
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Scientists dont live my guile or brawn, they
make a living on the mental plain:by brain & reasoning. The quality, rigor & inspiration of ones reasoning/cognitive ability is maintained by a healthy brain, and thus a healthy brain will be in direct proportion to their career success in life.
If these scientists know themselves
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
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intuitively, never to take drugs & respect an preserve the quality of ThEIR brain, then how much more wrong is it to advocate the "safety" of those drugs to a generation of impressionable, uninformed kids with potential who dont know better. Its like Nutts saying: "I can distance myself, Im a scientist..I would never participate myself, but Ive done the research ,made a stats calculation, so that doesnt make me a hypocrite, it makes me a scientist" etc.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
NOONE advocates underage, or uninformed use! Many doctors, lawyers, police officers, judges & more use cannabis, and not a single one of them (none I've met, anyway) does it on the job, which could at least slightly compromise their abilities.
When I went in for surgery, they gave me valium to get me relaxed (worked!) and then demerol to finish it. (also worked!) From experience, those two drugs are FAR MORE DANGEROUS than cannabis!
I advocate 100% INFORMED decisions...not propaganda.
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
@MoonAharshMistress thoses impressionable and uninformed kids are the same kids who stand outside offlicenses asking passers by to buy them alcohol. I'd rather my son smoked cannabis, than drank alcohol which despite what you beleive, is still a drug. A bunch of young stoners sitting around giggling and putting wholesome effort into creative ideas, is far more constructive that causing fights in the local, and lifting girls skirts up while procceding to say "get your rat out."
samjohnston88 2 years ago 4
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Lol. Youre right. Cannabis is a lot more civilised. Cokes handy if you want to get a girl into bed and valiums a good idea if u need to chill out and kick off for a bit.
Drugs are great, arent they.
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
I agree ! lol
norrisnuvo 2 years ago
Actually, my grandfather, a friend from high school, and a family friend all died of cancer...and if I'd known about NATURAL Cannabis Oil curing various forms of cancer at the time, at least two of those people would still be alive today. I figure Grandpa would have still died by now, but he'd have had a few more years, and of significantly higher quality.
As to morphine, it IS legal! Funny thing...it's REGULATED, so it's a lot harder to get in schoolyards because of that! See my point?
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
Actually, at one point, more than 30% of all medical preparations were either based on, or contained cannabis extracts, so the pharmaceutical companies WILL suffer somewhat when cannabis is re-legalized.
Cotton growers are terrified of hemp fiber being "flooded on the market" destroying their profits.
As to health, if the pure, natural extracted cannabis oil can CURE TERMINAL LUNG CANCER, I'd say it's safe. q;o)
There is no LD-50 rating for THC, therefore, there is NO POSSIBILITY of OD
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
And yes, you can smoke cannabis without tobacco. You are, besides from not being very smart, not very well read either. Why don't you get som information instead of just guessing and forming opinions through your emotions?
MrGuldfisk 1 year ago 2
Legalize it and then make its use compulsory. The world would be a better place to live. Its a sad world we live in where there is more intelligance and truth in youtube comments than in the mainstream media.Lets just hope prof nutt is the first snowflake in a giant snowball.
astralstate73 2 years ago 4
I don't know about "compulsory" use, but it would be interesting to see all the politicians who've fought against re-legalizing cannabis for the last 70+ years to sit back and smoke a joint.
Maybe then they'd have sense enough to understand that when something isn't dangerous, it's not to be feared...except by the wilfully ignorant.
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
Ok, compulsory use was a little on the extreme side but seriously I do think the use of cannabis and other psychedelic drugs can be very beneficial to the human race.
astralstate73 2 years ago 2
if they legalized it we would be out of recession in 5 minutes FACT!
frenchielcfc 2 years ago 7
She got it wrong, it went from class C to B.
tyrone199 2 years ago 4
since when was it a class A????
2dubstep5 2 years ago 4
In the USA, it is a "Schedule I Drug" meaning that it "has no accepted medical application"...well...except for US Patent #6630507, which explains that it's an antioxidant and a neuroprotectant...contrary to the public claims it kills brain cells. (Often and repeatedly cited from a DISCREDITED STUDY by the ignorant!)
In Canada, it is a "Schedule 2", which is still restrictected far more than any of the truly dangerous drugs that pharmacies deal every day.
Yes...THEY are the DRUG DEALERS!!!
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
the worst thing about this is the government would actually see serious benefits from legalising, or at the least decriminalising, cannabis. their reason for acting so irrationally is a prehistoric moral opposition to drugs that is based on currying favour with middle england rather than pragmatism.
however as more and more polls come out showing the majority favour legalisation we should hopefully see steps towards it at least within a decade (after the tories of course).
bobzilla211 2 years ago 7
Not to mention the lobbyist agenda of the tobacco and pharmaceutical companies...
CameoGuise 2 years ago 5
Decriminalization won't work as a long-term strategy. This will allow personal and medical use, and will reopen the ability to test scientifically, but will also fail over time.
Decriminalization: "It's still illegal, but we'll let you do it if you pay us gobs of money, and we can still arrest you whenever we deem it profitable to do so."
Full legalization lets people do what they please, so long as they harm noone else, and in those cases, laws already exist to protect those harmed.
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
Through my training and work with drugs and alcahol i can honestly say the prof is right. Alcahol and cigs are far more dangerous than some drugs. its time for the people of this country to stand up to the government. They lie, cheat, keep us in the dark and ignore us.We need to start questioning them and not be fobbed off with anymore lies.
tigerblue35 2 years ago 5
True. I've been soking since I was 13, and been trying to quit since I was about 19. Repeatedly. Turns out that I'm allergic to bupropion hydrochloride...otherwise known as "Zyban."
Interesting that I can relatively easily tolerate the 2000+ chemical compounds in tobacco, but I'm allergic to the ONE chemical supposed to help me quit? Hmmm...
Funny...when I left college, I didn't smoke a joint for ~5 years. Then another 15-18 years before I had another...yet they say pot's addictive?!?
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
Now i don't want to bring religion into politics but hows this?
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it."
Its a plant the last time i checked...
stiflen 2 years ago 6
This is one of the many reasons why it is used as a sacrament in many religions around the world, most notably, Rastafari.
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
Pretty fucked up really. Fuck sake, why do we let these fucking monkeys run the country when wise people like nutt have a forward thinking plan, not just a political motive. What happened when weed got reclassified is its cost rose by about 150% street end and people started selling coke again because quite frankly its the same price. Just pathetic. Where has the voice of the public gone? Does what we as the people have to say make any difference at all? Remember remember the 5th of november.
Gravitron89 2 years ago 5
If we keep voting deceiptful ignorant monkeys into office, why should we be surprised when we get EXACTLY what we knew we'd be getting?
If we know they're lying, and we still vote them in, should we REALLY be so amazed when they consistently fail at every opportunity? Not so much...
TheRealElectroPig 2 years ago
theyve just voted labour back in in the Glasgow by election . Does no one see the truth
adrianbarratt 2 years ago
Plus the fact:
"It is about choice. I wish to use cannabis [which has been scientifically proven as less harmful than alcohol and tobacco]."-norisnuvo.
MY FUCKING CHOICE and let me say, stay the fuck outta my buisness and i will stay out of yours..thats what i gotta say to these people who wanna demonise a plant they know NOTHING about.
Peace
concernedagain 2 years ago 7
Its ok for you people who want to just sit back and watch all the political nonesense on tv and 'thier' views on cannabis and 'trust' what they say, well...YOUR not the ones in pain demonising a 'drug' that could ease the suffering of thousands..
Cannabis should not even be a drug and who placed it under 'drug'?...its a fucking HERB...a PLANT....this is the FUNDAMENTAL information on cannabis and everybody seems to have missed it?
Peace
concernedagain 2 years ago 3
It is a tiresome subject but, if you keep telling people the CORRECT information about cannabis, it actually DOES get through to people.
My brother has crohns sydrome and cannabis could probably cure him or ease his suffering BUT under manmade "LAW" on cannabis, my brother would be classed as a criminal?
Now, coming from a right wing family it was HARD to tell them anything, but i told my mother to ask a hospital surgeon or doctor for advice, ...NOW she is asking questions....
concernedagain 2 years ago 2
It is about choice. I wish to use cannabis [which has been scientifically proven as less harmful than alcohol and tobacco].
I wish to make an informed choice without some politician saying I can't - I have used cannabis for over thirty years with no ill effect. I have numerous friends and associates who have also been using cannabis for a similar time with no problems
This government lies and cheats and tries to suppress the truth in many areas. They are now being exposed for what they are
norrisnuvo 2 years ago
EXPOSURE..yes, lets hope so, lets HOPE sheep people cotton onto this and question the ideaology of a politicians polices on cannabis classification, lets just hope anti cannabis people WAKE up and see what has been happening in the political world and how cannabis has earned these pigs money for keeping it illegal, lets just hope people lose FAITH in the cannabis laws and except that thier nieghbours, friends, policeman , judges, doctors, teachers and parents all smoke weed!.
Peace
concernedagain 2 years ago 3