INTERVIEW WITH MALE PROSTITUTE ON SALLY JESSE RAFAEL

[superstaff]

I hate how judgmental the people in the audience were being when you said you took on those various jobs after you quit prostituting. It's like...they expected you to continue it until you died or something. They should be astounded at how you turned everything around! Some people never get out of that life and they die doing it.

[sterrry1]

@superstaff What a nice comment that is. So different than almost all the stuff that appears here on YouTube. What a pleasant thing to get on a Sunday night. Or actually Monday morning since I'm in New Jersey. Thanks!

[superstaff]

@sterrry1 It's one of the things that annoy me about most people is their lack of sympathy for prostitutes, even when they leave the life and end up doing very amazing things afterward. I've been going through very tough times lately myself, although I haven't done anything like hooking, I can understand what it's like to be trapped somewhere and have nowhere to turn to, not even your own parents. So, it's great to see you've become successful. :)

[sterrry1]

i'm not asking for your sympathy. i'm telling my story of being alone & raped & broke & having grown ups use me for sex & $. i couldn't go home. they didn't want me. as is the case w/ many kids. i made every choice, & i wear the scars proudly. i was desperate & young & had nowhere to turn.i didn't treat my body like shit & didn't become shit. i became a bestselling author & dad & activist. but thanks for your empathetic & kind comment

[Lemon020202]

k? Life is based on choices...i have no sympathy for someone that had a good life growing up and choosing to go down the wrong path....my life was hard since childhood...i never once did drugs, suicide, smoke, prostuite my self, have sex for money etc...he didn't have to do this: He could have walked away and went home..or to a relatives house and got a good education there are other choices... if you choose to treat your body like shit, you become shit, just a saying!

[ThatGuitaristPaisa]

co za asy

[MrKillien]

hey guy I'm glad you came out ok in the end. hope the the film is a seccus.

[Masalind0]

have you seen that movie "Spread", would you say thats kinda how the life is

[sterrry1]

@Masalind0 haven't seen it, wot is it?

[Masalind0]

@sterrry1 it plays on the plot of ayoung rather good looking man. He lives in LA, and ends up hooking up with a wealthy woman because he has no home, job, he uses these older woman houses and gives hem sex. Basically a Gigalo* . i think you would enjoy the movie. i do not think it is done in a sloppy skanky way but it shows how some people really live. much like your story.

Ashton Kutcher plays the main role. i recommend the movie.

[sterrry1]

@Masalind0 I do seem to remember it now that you're describing the movie. I will definitely have to check it out. A movie is being made of my story even as we speak

[Masalind0]

@sterrry1 After seeing the movie i have looking into this topic as it is not commonly spoken of in public. i appriciate the words of wisdom you have put out into the world. im looking into buying your book. And Did you say MOVIE?!? has it been publicly annouced, how can i purchase a copy?

lol i think its awesome how i am able to chat with you via YouTube lol, thank you for your time.

[paulsimpson123]

why dont i feel sorry for this man !

[sterrry1]

@paulsimpson123 I'm not asking anyone to feel sorry for me. But thanks so much for your kind words, they mean a lot to me, always nice to get all this good love on YouTube

[paulsimpson123]

@sterrry1 thank u for your reply

[AuntFlo81]

I don't know if you're still reading these, but when you were working as a prostitute, how was money handled? If you got paid, did you get to keep all of the money, or did have to give some to your 'employer'? What portion did you keep?

If not for your mom or family, do you think that you would have been been able to leave the profession? How?

Thanks so much, and best of luck!

[sterrry1]

@AuntFlo81 My situation was a little unique in that I work 4 a very very high end service. So the customer paid me directly. I never had any in person contact with the agency after the initial interview, it was always over the phone. I always assumed that the customer paid the agency directly. And I was told in no uncertain terms to keep my mouth shut and not ask questions. I made approximately $100/hour, & that was 1974 money. If not for my mom, I'm sure I would be dead by now.

[AuntFlo81]

Guest: you know, I was never beaten with a coat-hanger or anything...

Sally (shocked): You were NOT???

[TheMangolatino]

his handssome.

[IbnNero]

@TheMangolatino hookers always are

[sterrry1]

@bg11215 thanx so much for the kind words, i never get tired of all the love one gets on youtube. check out my website, buy a book, c just how full of crap i am

[sterrry1]

thanks for kudos. actually, I never read Jon Rechyuntil I met him at the Miami book Festival. Never seen Alexander: the other side of dawn. remember, this was in the mid 70s, before there was such a thing as AIDS, and the sexual revolution was still going strong. Actually, I have two or three friends who take lots of money having sex with women, one famously in Amsterdam called Shai Sahar. The big difference between fiction and memoir is that fiction has to b believable & make sense.

[ranae404]

@sterrry1 so even though u sleep with men back then are you gay? or u dont consider yourself gay now thatu gotton out of that lifestyle? just wondering..

[algabal]

Obviously, you're a guy who's read a lot of Rechy and maybe seen "Alexander: the Other Side of Dawn." But your story comes off to me as transparently fake, especially the idea that you predominantly bedded women (sorry, the market just ain't there). Kudos, though: you're a funny and interesting guy and I bet you're a good writer, too.

[07deniz]

i usually feel sorry for prostitutes. but this time i dont feel sorry gosh he is such a strong man. A person of character always strives to do the right thing.

[sterrry1]

@07deniz thank you very much for your kind words. My life totally changed when I decided to tell my story.

[RingoAkai1]

God bless you

[sterryhead]

That's an awfully nice thing to say. Thank you. I'm not used to people being nice on YouTube

[kilo516]

you may not identify as gay  but you are a fag

[VictoriasPSYCHOmodel]

hahah..dude this guy is a man ho..

[Jules242]

Erm...Have you seen 'Winfrey's'  following?

[inmyownblood]

steven and chris are awesome i just saw it today and I have to say it was fabulous. its about having fun and I love women, especially when they dance so I can get past the makeup tutorials n fashion tips. it just makes u feel accepted and its about having fun. im no player hater n i dont hate on any1. i like to feel good and die feeling good

[inmyownblood]

actually theyre awesome and entertainin this shit is boring as hell. thank god for those 2, if this woman ever talked 2 me i think id die of the pain

[sterrry1]

Yes, somehow everything worked out. The book has been optioned to be made into a TV series by Showtime. I live in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife and I have a beautiful baby girl who is just about to be two years old. Crazy, right?

[four4vizslas]

Friend I know read the book as part of the reading assignment for two weeks : "male sex workers". She told me to read it. I will. Interesting vintage video and hope everything wound-up working out!

[Tialait]

Is the sound randomly going out for everyone or is that just me?

Just wondering...because I was just getting interested and the sound went out.

[Jaitro]

Same for me.

[inmyownblood]

what a 'POOR' guy. lol its funny what makes these grandmas happy.

[inmyownblood]

what a gay show. who the hell watches this? grandmas?

[OfficialBrazenTV]

what year was this when you went on the sjr show? i am surprised that you have this vid, i used to watch the show and i always wondered what happend to those guests. are you famous? do you still speak to any of those people

[filthiestfish]

Looks like Ben Dover ^^

[lancetop]

I can't believe anyone would pay that silly bozo one red cent.

[sterrry1]

i was 17 and beautiful at the time, thanks for the comment though!

[chica476]

what was your hair color? Short and black? Hott...

[lisalizapop]

No matter what your sins are

GOD will accept you anyhow

just repent now and he will guide

you along the way..

[cranberry411]

625 wow david u beat him down .. i got to read ur book im into it ..

[sterrry1]

I think actually she may be a hermaphrodite. She flashed me just a little, I think I saw both organs

[xHarryTimbercrankx]

Deuce "not so big" Below.

Chicken.? Poor David was "forced" into prostitution. One drugged steak and you wake up with a tube steak up your ass.

When ever he says woman, he means man.

[sterrry1]

Thank you for your kind, thoughtful, and wit I ty remarks. It's people like you that make you tube such a pleasure. I never said I was forced into prostitution. People have said that about me. But I always correct them. Being raped did lead me directly into the world of sex, but no one put a gun to my head. I always find it strange when people make such cold-blooded jokes about rape. I wonder if xHarry timbercrankx has ever been raped. I don't think he would make those jokes if he had

[godsgift5785]

thats some funny shit man... POOR DAVID...

[ponykegslim]

1st of all , whatever on ur lifestyle but I have 1 word "spellcheck" lol

[sterrry1]

I am a terrible speller. I cannot deny this.

[rmsolympic1]

On another note, bless your soul that you escaped that lifestyle, as I am sure that it imploded your self-esteem and created sheer despair. Well, I guess I will have to read your book.

[sterrry1]

Sally is very sexy. And she definitely had an aggressive quality to her. I tried to flirt with her a little, but he was right toward the end of her reign, and the walls were crumbling down all around her, she was canceled very soon thereafter, I think America misses her as much as I do.

[rmsolympic1]

I defintiely find Sally sexy, something about her bespectacled plain-Jane-ness and maybe a hint of a tigress waiting to be freed...

[sterrry1]

Yes, I believe that the love I got during the first 10 or 12 years of my life from my incredible mother is the reason I was able to survive and thrive and get out alive. Hey, that rhymes! Thanks her kind words, David

[GRRiTSELeNA]

Very touching.

I'm glad you got out and are living well.

[sterrry1]

thank you very much.  I appreciate that.

[Scottie404]

I bet you were hot. You're still not too bad.

[sterrry1]

Thank you very much for your kind words I appreciate it.

[CharmingMan27]

The reviews on your book are glowing: I'll definitely check it out, when I feel ready for it. For some reason, it just feels like something I'm not ready for, as of yet. Maybe it has something to do with my own childhood experiences. Until then, Dave, I'd just like to say that you seem like a good guy, despite all you've gone through. As someone that thinks very philosophically, I'd like to know how you feel about the nature of man, as a result of your experiences? You have my best wishes.

[sterrry1]

Thank you ever so much for your kind remarks. I'm sorry it took me so long to get to this, there are so many idiots on youtube. I studied philosophy when I was a chicken. Human beings seem to have certain basic human needs and desires. Some of these are obvious. Air, food, water, exercise, sex, health. Some are not so obvious. like needing something you're passionate about. and of course love. Because all you need is love.

[Goobian]

I'm sorry all these people are bashing you. I feel it's your body you can do what you want with it. I think every state should have brothels like the Bunny Ranch in Nevada to make it safer and legal. I think even if it was more accepted and legal I would do it part time. I have no judgments towards you based on this clip.

[sterrry1]

thank you yes, people do seem to strange pleasure in trying to shame others. I wrote a piece in the Huffington Post about this very thing. About legalizing prostitution and drugs. You might find it interesting. Thanks again, David

[chica476]

If given the opportunity, would you have joined the circus as opposed to being a sex worker? I'm being quite serious here.

[sterrry1]

honestly, I would join the circus. But I don't think it would make as interesting a memoir. Although, who knows? But I did learn an awful lot in my time as a sex worker.

[NekiaNichelle]

Maybe I am missing something but can you please explain to me why you continued to take the easy route and not tackle your minor issues at that time. Then none of that tragedy would have take place.

However, good luck with your Showtime show. You did a very good job of turning this tragedy to something positive.

P.S. I am not trying to be mean...just trying to understand.

[sterrry1]

first of all, sex means different things to different people. Just because that's what it means to you, doesn't mean that's what it means to everyone. Part of being an American is accepting the way other people feel about things, as long as they're not hurting anyone.

[NekiaNichelle]

So why the need to take that route? Sex is something that should be shared between 2people that care about 1 another and you explained that you used it as survival. Survival of what? You were not poor, destitute, or uneducated. You had a family that was there for you. It was your choice to not handle your emotions when your parents split. It wasn't like you had a child to take care of at that time or mortgage to pay. You were a kid yourself that could have gone back home. (cont.on next comment)

[sterrry1]

And most of the people I had sex with for money didn't hurt me at all. many of them were very nice to me. It's how I stayed alive. If you listen closely to my story you'll see that I was raped when I first got to Hollywood.  My mother and father didn't want to have anything to do with me at the time. They were going through a horrible divorce. I had no money.

[NekiaNichelle]

I happen to come across your video just doing a search on SJR. I was real skeptical about commenting because I usually keep my opinions and thoughts to myself. However, I had the urge to write you. The first thing I want to say is that I commend you for being able to overcome some of your issues in your life but the thing that I am having a hard time understanding is your reasoning for selling your self short. You stated you came from a well off family that loved you? (continue on next comment)

[sterrry1]

I was frying chicken for a job, with a shattered personality.and the man who hired me was a recruitment supervisor for the sex industry. He was a very very nice person who gave me a lot of love. it's not as simple as you think. Everyone wants to simplify this thing. It's very complicated. it is not an easy route. Believe me. Being a sex workers a very very hard job. And some people really enjoy the work.

[jackievongrimm]

damn this show is so old i haven't seen this in forever hahahahaha

[Dru0417]

i can't get the book in my country!

[osvaldoe]

So obviously a "closet case"!

[sterrry1]

thank you for your kind words. I'm always touched by all the love I get on you tube. that's actually me in the interview. It's fascinating how people's comments reflect so much more about themselves than about what they are supposed to be commenting on I wish I could've been gay. I could've worked 24/7 8 days a week as a male hustler. sadly, I was raped by man just before I got into the business. It kind of ruined me for having sex comfortably with men. Thanks again for your sweet comment.

[chica476]

You were interested in men before?

[AngelManos205]

Aww... I feel so sorry for the raping.... BtW a

male prostitute does sex with women or men or both?

[sterrry1]

some male prostitutes only have sex with men. If you only have sex with women. But I've seen over and over again that if you have money, almost any male prostitute worth his salt will have sex with you under the right circumstances. And thank you for your sympathy, I appreciated

[shibamatachick]

This guy just doesn't stack up. Somethings off.

[sterrry1]

I'm curious why you say this. Actually, this was my first time talking about any of this stuff publicly and I was so nervous. I look back on it and I feel like I was so stiff. No pun intended. Anyway, I've written a book about the whole thing obviously, and Showtime is making a TV series out of it. If that's off, color me off.

[abaskcasckbackj]

I too studied Philosophy, and I agree with some here that you are in denial about being gay, or an awfully effeminate and sensitive man. Be honest at least.

[sterrry1]

oh u studied philosophy so u r an expert on who's gay? and even though u've never met me, u somehow know i'm in denial about being gay? u crack me up. i wish i was gay. my mom's gay, my ex-wife's gay. i tried to be gay. sadly, i just like women and having sex w/ them too much. & who cares if i'm gay? how is it any of your business unless u want to have gay sex w/ me? people so are obsessed w/ this. actually I'm 70% breeder, 20% lesbian, and 10% gay.

[abaskcasckbackj]

I mentioned Philosophy, because you did yourself. My philosophy doesnt make me think your gay; watching your video and using common sense does. The fact that you are probably (I made that very clear) gay in itself doesnt matter, but the fact that any average individual watching this could see that there is a lot more than meet the eye, in terms of who u were/are. You are a very suspicious character. No ones buying into this crap/

[sterrry1]

I'm very curious what exactly about me in this video makes you think I am gay. I don't take umbrage, I've had so many people accuse me of some of the things as a result of you are this book. I'm fascinated by human nature/behavior. it was my first appearance on television talking about things I was so ashamed and embarrassed of. What makes you say I am suspicious? Interestingly, Showtime is making my book into a TV series, so apparently someone is buying.

[abaskcasckbackj]

Your mannerisms are very feminine, and just the overall way you conduct yourself. It has nothing to do with your past career. Obviously, Im not the only one that suspected you were. I could see why certain types of women would pay you for sex; you come off as very safe, sweet, gentle, just like a woman. I bet many of your clients were victims of abuse themselves. There is no reason for any borderline or better looking woman to pay a man for sex.

[abaskcasckbackj]

You were ashamed and embarrassed? No, Im not buying it. I think you were proud about taking advantage of desparate women. It goes both ways, so I cant blame you for that. But again, your not being honest saying you went on trash tv simply to express your feelings. Once again, at least for that one hour, you were the center of attention. Thats what this is all about. If you were more honest about yourself, we wouldnt be having this conversation.

[sterrry1]

I love how people pretend like they know me. So much of how people perceive others is of course a mirror of themselves. u think my behavior seems feminine. Funny, I worked at Chippendale's for several years, and several ensemble dancers were flamingly effeminately gay. They used to make fun of me for what a breeder I was. I went on that show to promote my book. I'm a professional writer. That's what I do for a living.

[abaskcasckbackj]

To say that u act gay is not the same as saying as I know you.

[sterrry1]

there are many reasons 4 women 2 pay for sex. many clients were married and wanted discretion. Many were acting out bizarre fantasies they felt inhibited about. I wasn't taking advantage of anyone. I know it's hard for civilians, people who've never been in the sex business, to understand that. I was well paid for a service I provided. Believe it or not, some of these women just wanted to be listened to, and io look at me naked. Remember I was a 17-year-old man child at that point

[abaskcasckbackj]

There are not many reasons in this country, the nation with the worlds most desoreable men, to pay for sex. You act as if you are the only one ever involved with the sex business. You are incredibally full of yourself.

[sterrry1]

this book came about cuz I was trying to tell my story, as part of healing myself. and being on that show was very healing. It was fun too. I enjoyed it a lot. She was very interesting to talk to. And the audience was like this sub mental Greek chorus that was being led by one of Sally's minions, who would tell the audience when to clap, or laugh, or go, "oooh!"

[abaskcasckbackj]

You came out because you wanted to make money, and you love the attention you get

[sterrry1]

I'm fascinated why people who don't know me can presume what I feel. they do it all the time. how do u know what this is all about 4 me? You see me chat for 6minutes w/ a goofy talk show host, and you think you know what my motivations are? I'm having this conversation cuz I'm fascinated by the nutjobs who spend their life making comments on youtube. For me it's like sociological research. This'ill prolly end up in a book I write someday. I thank you for your time and your nutjobbishness

[abaskcasckbackj]

I never preseumed anything, once again, you enjoy playing the victim, and the center of attention. You are amazingly coming off as a woman with ech response you give. I sir, am not the nutjob. I sir, am not the homewrecker, who, on the one hand, claims to have written a trash book at the expense of wrecking marrriages, and you sir, are the one who has now begun to make personal attacks. You want to use this n your book? I suggest, for the sake of pride, you quote me exactly. You are a narcissist

[TheTramik]

You kind of contradict yourself by saying you don't buy it, but acknowledging that it goes both ways. How do you determine who is ashamed and embarrassed, and who was taking advantage of the client? What method do you use to distinguish these people? I ask only out of curiosity.

[abaskcasckbackj]

Both ways comment: He didnt force himself on the women, so they knew what they were getting themselves into on the surface. On the other hand, he was taking advantage of desparate women, and helping destroy families. I he were having sex with single women, like some of the men that go to brothels, then there wouldnt not be this particular attack on this guys character. His actions were not victimless. His main excuse was " I didnt have a job." Gee, many dont in his position, and dont do this.

[abaskcasckbackj]

ashamed/embarrassed: Please be more specific, I dont know what that meant.

[azizi3929]

cool...

[sterrry1]

as is your panty dance. It's so amazing that three quarters of a million people have watched that. But then again you do seem to have very nice panties.

[Swamy456]

So do you regret it?

[sterrry1]

I've been thinking a lot about your question. I have a game I play where I imagine going back and whispering in my ear at different points in my life. would I whisper to my young self: don't have sex for money? I don't really regret having sex for money. I regret being raped. That really messed me up to this very day. But I do wonder what's going to happen when my daughter gets old enough to be able to read my book and she turns me with big innocent eyes and asks: Daddy, what's a chicken?

[licence497]

that's funny

i saw this book in russian a few days ago xD

[sterrry1]

that is really funny. It came out in Russia a few years ago. What we are doing in Russia? I have a copy of the Russian version of the book here but obviously since I don't speak Russian I can't read it. It's a small world after all isn't it?

[licence497]

i live in russia,i'm russian. i hope i will get a chance to read your book soon, everything you said in the interview was quite interesting (:

ps sorry for my english)

[chica476]

Как дела?

[annaphil]

OMG! i cudn't believe that was really you!!! atleast now all that madness is over and you have the sweetest baby girl to watch over and bring up.....

[sterrry1]

thanx again. u r so nice!

[dmc000]

He sounds like he's full of shit!

[sterrry1]

thanks for your kind comments. that is me! showtime is making a TV series out of the book i wrote about this experience it's called Chicken. thanks again! D

[dldowell1122]

how do I become a prostitute

[sterrry1]

it's very hard. for a man that is. I assume you're talking about being a man prostitute.So much of an answer to that question depends on the particulars of who you are, your skills, how old you look, and above all your particular temperament and personality, your ability and desire to do what must be done. But if you search fervently enough I'm sure you can find someone to pay you for sex.

Thank you for your response.

[boutmydamnself]

wow......

[sterrry1]

you have no idea!

[culture02dc]

lol crazy

[sterrry1]

thanks a lot.

[Dragonate89]

Holy God!

You have led such a crazy life!

I am going to pick up your books now.