I have a guess about using the bible to prove that the bible is right. Maybe they think that whatever passage they're reading is so persuasive that it will convert anyone who hears it
first off: this guy definitely sounds like homestar runner. 2nd: flying spaghetti monster "prove to me there is no spaghetti monster= prove to me there is no God" rebut: any halfway thesible proof there is a spaghetti monster?- say, if there were a book telling of all the spaghetti monsters good and/or bad deeds, that would be halfway thesible.
@dechha1981 please, grace me with the knowledge of FSM and tell me where to get a copy..... and theres a time to be "funny" and a time to show off to all your little youtube "friends," but be real for just a minute and answer this question... "who pissed in your cherios to make you so mad at theist/christians?" and by the way, "piss (pisseth) is in the Bible (2 kings 9:8) so dont judge me for a "bad christian"
2nd Century Christian theologist, Marcion, and also the gnostics, believed that the Hebrew god who created the word was an evil god and that there was a "true" god beyond him. Christians didn't get their contradictory dogma firmly affirmed until the 15 century.
The eye existed in animals before the Permian Extinction 250 million years ago.
Weird voice, but great video. Personally, I think you should put comedy under one of you're tags. You're one of the first people who I've seen that directly take on Christian arguments logically, while still having humor consistency throughout your video.
7:03 Materialist philosophy = naturalism = science. Obviously, this is a simplistic depiction that appears to conflate methodological naturalism and metaphysical naturalism, but, hey, it is geared to the creationist mind. I suspect that they used "materialist" because of its negative connotations (greed, superficial, etc) in yet another slimy creationist equivocation (both interpretations).
3:16 Our disbelief is one of the many things in the they-don't-really-know category of some religionists. This sub-group of deluded idiots has decided that we "know" that there is a God, but that we choose to ignore this knowledge so that we can be immoral. Aside from the very obvious problem with tempting punishment, this lunatic theory has a huge problem. If we wished to be immoral, all that we need do is sin and repent as deluded Xians. After all, that's what they do.
What the fuck are you trying to accomplish by using these names? It's childishness, for the sake of the argument call me an atheist, I'm not, but you'll treat me better if I am. This is nothing but immaturity and disrespect, YES theists can be immature and disrespectful as well, and usually are, but ARE YOU any better by doing the SAME SHIT?
Yes. Yes we bare better than you. Why? Well, apart from the fact that we don't ask so many stupid questions that it inspired this very series, we ALSO have a MUCH stronger backbone than you.
You see, we're not babies. We're used to being insulted by Theists and we don't whine about "Disrepect" and being 'Mocked" and wa wa wa.
In other words, you're promoting mediocrity and you'd perfectly fine with a world where everyone acts like a child and can't debate without using insults OH WAIT you've already brought that upon us you fucking plague.
I await your oh so intelligent "LOL DERP STUPID CHRISTIAN SO DELUSIONAL" typical anti-theist bullshit. Bring it on. I have a foundation for my belief, you have "once there was nothing; now there is something" and when questioned about it, you whine about how "WE DONT KNOW!!!"
// What the fuck are you trying to accomplish by using these names? //
Accuracy. NB that I said "some" and I made it clear why I wrote that. You might have overlooked those qualifiers in your agitated haste to protect the honor of that subsection of believers who warrant my comments. Beyond that clarification, I make no apology.
Even if you had not admitted to being a theist, the emotional tenor of your remarks, together with your classical descent into caps would have given you away.
"If you follow anything but the bible you're following Satan"
This would, of course, be going under the assumption that the bible has gone almost 2000 years in a pure and pristine state of being unchanged, unaltered by meddling humans, uncorrupted. But as many know, the bible HAS been corrupted, big time, through both mistranslation & deliberate editing. Thus, if you follow ANYTHING, even the bible, you're following Satan.
I'm wondering what it says about me that I knew the picture of Buffy is from Once More With Feeling, and she's singing "Going thru the motions" - which matches up with the audio, and is presumably why you used it.
I rather think that using the bible to prove the bible is a little bit like ordering your meal on holiday over seas. When they don't understand you, you just talk louder lol.
Were almost talking in different languages. They simply don't understand that we don't accept the bible as fact as they do, that thought just doesn't even cross their mind!.
If there is a watch, there was a watch maker!...but...if it's a phucked up watch that doesn't work right...we have a pretty incompetant creator who sucked at watch making ^_^. The creator can't blame the creation for it's faultinees, that's just stupid. I make a car, rev the engine, car explodes "STUPID CAR!"..no, i made it..stupid me.
Using a quote the way you describe in #7 is called "Quote Mining". Been used for generations by the thologists to support all their wacky interpretations, so why be surprised when they use it here ?
Somehow, I don't think that's possible to insult the intelligence of creationist. It's just a vague feeling, but don't you have to have intelligence in order to have it insulted?
All your arguments were really good except the last one. If I give a child a useful object, but I can physically snatch that object away whenever I want, the child is not more powerful. Likewise with Satan and the Bible god.
So... I think to respond to "you're controlled by Satan" is to answer them likewise. They've made a completely baseless claim that can just as annoyingly be applied to them.
I'm going to agree with middlekk. Venomfang doesn't even allow comments. Also he gets his arguements from a convicted fellon who doesn't even know the difference betwen the Big Bang and Evolution.
Never been a Christian but taking a stab at trying to explain why they quote the Bible:
Some of them really think it's a history textbook, not just a theological text. They cite the prophecies that the Bible says Jesus fulfilled and act that that's proof of something. Since they really believe the Bible is a historically reliable text, they can't understand why we see it as no more valid than Greek or Norse myths.
I didn't think you were going to make it through the whole thing, but you did!
Excellent stuff.
I had an "Einstein was wrong about the cosmological constant" the other day -- which of course, I had to point out was evidence IN FAVOR of the Big Bang. But these mouth-breathers don't understand the bullshit they're spouting.
It's like a bad episode of "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader."
I recently found out that materialist philosophy is the "philosophy" that there's nothing beyond the material universe, no metaphysical stuff, etc. Only things that can be scientifically observed/measured exist.
It's a fancy label for not believing anything exists beyond the physical universe, like the paranormal
One reason it's BS is that "god" is only one branch of spirituality and atheism ONLY means not believing in that one branch; we can believe in ghosts, karma, the soul, etc.
Wait a second, I thought that natural selection WAS a part of evolution.
Are you implying that natural selection is not a part of evolution? Or are you implying that creationists are saying that natural selection is not a part of evolution?
Natural Selection + Mutation = Evolution. CREATIONISTS claim it's not. They say things like "Natural Selection has no evolutionary power", which is like saying "Controlled Explosions have no Internal Combustional power".
You asked "Where does matter come from?" Where else is there? Another universe? And if there's another universe for matter to come from, then how did it get there?
I think I saw another comment almost if not actually exactly like that before, this morning actually. your comment was posted one minute ago, yet you have alreay been marked as Spam.
Is it possible, then, that you are, in fact, a Spammer? If you are a Spammer, then your opinion means nothing to me. That's why Troydungeon got banned.
I just love your reasoning with satan :D That was pretty darn well formulated. And since you delivered with a bit condecending, it just made the creationist look a bit more stupid (if that is even possible)
If you had JUST said that in your first comment I would have pointed out that the falacy in your claim THEN. (which is unnecesary because I said IN THE VIDEO that you were making god the one acception to all logic in the universe) however, I would not have blocked you. I don't block people for having a difference in opinion, I block them for being anoying. Your "You will reply to this comment" attitude is what got you blocked. There are comments from people I LIKE who I didn't reply to.
If being critiqued is annoying then i am going to bug you. Broad generalizations do not count? That's funny because you did it all through the video. Now on with the first cause that annoying robot said "they say everything was caused by something before that, etc." Wrong.
This video is stupid i'll just focus on one thing. Your first cause argument is horribly flawed. No need to go any further i'll wait till you respond so i can show you your ignorance.
Your comment is nothing but a broad generalization. Don't go telling me what to do. Frankly I'm tempted to block you just to show you what I do to people who make demands rather than just get on with it.
Nah. I'll let it slide. Judt don't do it again.
And GET ON WITH IT. Broad generalizations do not count.
See, if I was you, I wouldn't just make demands of people like that. I'd just get on with it and make my arguement. Frankly, your "You will come to me and respond to my comment" attitude is kind of arogant for a visitor to MY channel.
Just remember; here, I'M God. You can be blocked or deleted if you become too anoying. Here, I make demands. and that demand is;
Satan is a human being and also god. So can we really say God was Superman and made by hollywood. The World is a product of a singular process. That´s what the materialistic philosophy says. Science provides the only logical structure for the illogical
hollow0rld, you put me in a little bit of a conflict;
(BTW I've changed my mind, I have no intention of blocking you)
I COULD make a video making fun of you and your Hollow Earth theory, just as I have Christians, Truthists and Conspiracy Theorists. However, this I'm sure would only provolk a reaction, increase the debate, etc.
Or alturnatively, I could just ignore you.
Not sure which I should do, haven't decided. What do you think?
yes, it was the great builder,the boss.If the bibel is not written by god, then enybody else did it.I think it´s naiv,not to beleve is. Adam was made of stone and he lived 900 years, so he can´t be human.Every where on planet we´ve got allmost same history,something can´t be true
religion is the basic of humans history. Every scientific explanation, even the modern version, is just an other version. Sience reconstructs the history, so it is the logical complement.God's secret is not recognized, everything is done not to find it
At least I'm not the only one that's noticed how rediculous the painting painter argumant is. I actually made a video pointing out that that metaphore and pretty much all others like it are in suport of paganism. 5*
Funny video, too bad the mindless theists here just can't appreciate good work with little humor. Not to claim that all theist are mindless, their are rare occasions where a few have been found to actually have a brain! However slightly used in some ways but never when it comes to question their own mythical believes!
Youre an idiot. God is not the unmoved mover the unmoved mover is god. Its a logical assertion figure it out. Thesim turned god into something that requires faith to believe, LOGIC proves there is an unmoved mover ie that which is referred to as god. Most idiots have no idea of the basis of western religion including both those who accept it and those who deny it. Fucking dam get an education
Honestly, the Arguement of the First Cause is illogical, stupid and self-defeating. Why the hell are you defending an arguement that contradicts itself? What proof do you have that there IS an "Unmoved Mover"? iff there WAS an 'Unmoved Mover", and EVERYTHING must have been moved, then who moved the mover? If the mover can move by itself, why can't everything else? It's a logical inconsistancy.
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must be pretty good arguments for you to spend who knows how long making this video. without even considering the fact that many of them have been around for centuries, when will your ideas gain worldwide renown and validity? it eases my heart to know that my great great great grandkids will one day be able to open a book and explore the amazing validity of the dechha1981 Youtube Video Rebuttal of 2007.
You are a moron. I mean, come on! Pascal's Wager? #10 means YOU have no concience. Everything in #4 was just stupid. #8 doesn't even deserve to be called an arguement, but it's their MAIN arguement. And #6 doesn't even make sense!
If they were GOOD arguements, we would've been converted by now. They didnt work the first time we heard them and they're not gonna work the 745th time we hearde them. Quite frankly, the fact that you're even trying to defend a list of arguements that WE'RE TELLING YOU won't work because they're stupid and we've herad them all before says something about you. Don't try to defend these arguements, OK? Just come up with something better.
You know, the guy who makes the "Bad Astronomy" website (It's about misconceptions, conspiracy theories, sci-fi movies and generally all incorrect things about Astronomy) talks about Pseudo-scientists who use the sam illogical falacy as you. "If they try to debunk my theory, it must mean something, so it must be true! If they don't try to debunk my theory, then my theory is perfect so it must be true!" He says it's really frustrating for real Scientists.
That's quite brillant. Everytime I talk to a creationist I have to put up with at least one of these stupid question/statements. Now I'm just going to tell them to watch this.
lmao about the last crazy circular arguement. The sad thing is we will still continue to hear these worthless arguements because they win people over.
Agreed. Jack T. Chick is completely bonkers. Your final conclusion that Satan is God was great! I would love to see someone put together a series of anti-Chick Tracts.
maybe if you got off youtube and stopped shoving your views down others' throats, you wouldnt have to hear it. try getting a job, contribute to society...even though all your work is vanity, along with your life, everyone you know, everything you do, your parents, your kids, your suicide, your thoughts, your feelings...etc etc etc.
fuck off you stupid moron. i believe you are the one shoving your views down other's throat you fucking hypocrite. btw i do have a job so why dont you fuck off
The only thing worse than a Theist who thinks the First Cause is a good arguement is one who thinks they're psychic. You've never met dissolvingchaos. You don't know anything about him. Yet you state your guesses as fact. This makes you a LIAR. Do NOT tell us about ourselves. If you do so, and your guesses are even slightly inacurate, then you have NO credibility. The easiest way to loose our respect is to tell us about ourselves and guess wrong.
Satan is god... actually, against any religious person, it actually sounds like a solid argument xD
AkaiTsukiShimitsu 1 year ago
I have a guess about using the bible to prove that the bible is right. Maybe they think that whatever passage they're reading is so persuasive that it will convert anyone who hears it
hviw 1 year ago
@hviw No, they are doing what they accuse us of and that's circular reasoning.
HimesInu 8 months ago
@hviw Nah, they just like to hear themselves talk. It's when I get my five pound roll of duct tape.
HimesInu 7 months ago
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hviw 1 year ago
"Satan is the most powerful being in the universe... therefore, Satan is God."
This holds no logical validity, but it adds a nice punch to the end of the video.
shadyparadox 1 year ago
I love Lucifer
sirbestnameever 1 year ago
@sirbestnameever who's that?
kenny8331 1 year ago
first off: this guy definitely sounds like homestar runner. 2nd: flying spaghetti monster "prove to me there is no spaghetti monster= prove to me there is no God" rebut: any halfway thesible proof there is a spaghetti monster?- say, if there were a book telling of all the spaghetti monsters good and/or bad deeds, that would be halfway thesible.
iamcolinterry 1 year ago
@iamcolinterry Gospel of the FSM. Duh!
dechha1981 1 year ago
@dechha1981 please, grace me with the knowledge of FSM and tell me where to get a copy..... and theres a time to be "funny" and a time to show off to all your little youtube "friends," but be real for just a minute and answer this question... "who pissed in your cherios to make you so mad at theist/christians?" and by the way, "piss (pisseth) is in the Bible (2 kings 9:8) so dont judge me for a "bad christian"
iamcolinterry 1 year ago
2nd Century Christian theologist, Marcion, and also the gnostics, believed that the Hebrew god who created the word was an evil god and that there was a "true" god beyond him. Christians didn't get their contradictory dogma firmly affirmed until the 15 century.
The eye existed in animals before the Permian Extinction 250 million years ago.
randall2020 1 year ago
Weird voice, but great video. Personally, I think you should put comedy under one of you're tags. You're one of the first people who I've seen that directly take on Christian arguments logically, while still having humor consistency throughout your video.
Very nice job.
MelowMurder 1 year ago
you want logic from a theist?
sheppaul 2 years ago
lol so true..
AdamantAtheist 2 years ago
7:03 Materialist philosophy = naturalism = science. Obviously, this is a simplistic depiction that appears to conflate methodological naturalism and metaphysical naturalism, but, hey, it is geared to the creationist mind. I suspect that they used "materialist" because of its negative connotations (greed, superficial, etc) in yet another slimy creationist equivocation (both interpretations).
pareidolian 2 years ago
3:16 Our disbelief is one of the many things in the they-don't-really-know category of some religionists. This sub-group of deluded idiots has decided that we "know" that there is a God, but that we choose to ignore this knowledge so that we can be immoral. Aside from the very obvious problem with tempting punishment, this lunatic theory has a huge problem. If we wished to be immoral, all that we need do is sin and repent as deluded Xians. After all, that's what they do.
pareidolian 2 years ago
"deluded idiots"
"lunatic theory"
"deluded Xians"
What the fuck are you trying to accomplish by using these names? It's childishness, for the sake of the argument call me an atheist, I'm not, but you'll treat me better if I am. This is nothing but immaturity and disrespect, YES theists can be immature and disrespectful as well, and usually are, but ARE YOU any better by doing the SAME SHIT?
hypocrites.
LinkGrayX2 2 years ago
Yes. Yes we bare better than you. Why? Well, apart from the fact that we don't ask so many stupid questions that it inspired this very series, we ALSO have a MUCH stronger backbone than you.
You see, we're not babies. We're used to being insulted by Theists and we don't whine about "Disrepect" and being 'Mocked" and wa wa wa.
dechha1981 2 years ago
In other words, you're promoting mediocrity and you'd perfectly fine with a world where everyone acts like a child and can't debate without using insults OH WAIT you've already brought that upon us you fucking plague.
I await your oh so intelligent "LOL DERP STUPID CHRISTIAN SO DELUSIONAL" typical anti-theist bullshit. Bring it on. I have a foundation for my belief, you have "once there was nothing; now there is something" and when questioned about it, you whine about how "WE DONT KNOW!!!"
LinkGrayX2 2 years ago
// What the fuck are you trying to accomplish by using these names? //
Accuracy. NB that I said "some" and I made it clear why I wrote that. You might have overlooked those qualifiers in your agitated haste to protect the honor of that subsection of believers who warrant my comments. Beyond that clarification, I make no apology.
Even if you had not admitted to being a theist, the emotional tenor of your remarks, together with your classical descent into caps would have given you away.
pareidolian 2 years ago
c-c-c-classical descENT INTO CAPS
LinkGrayX2 2 years ago
"If you follow anything but the bible you're following Satan"
This would, of course, be going under the assumption that the bible has gone almost 2000 years in a pure and pristine state of being unchanged, unaltered by meddling humans, uncorrupted. But as many know, the bible HAS been corrupted, big time, through both mistranslation & deliberate editing. Thus, if you follow ANYTHING, even the bible, you're following Satan.
Satan has won
Bow down before your new overlord
HAIL SATAN!
technologysucks 2 years ago 3
"Just don't. o.k." LOVE IT!
GuerrillaAtheism 2 years ago
SATAN WINS
gamegeek2 2 years ago 4
Satan wins? so that means that he has all the fossils??
1n354a 2 years ago
Hey dude, what about the Dead Sea Scrolls?
pctopgs 2 years ago
Great work on collecting all those theistical arguments in one video!
Milla12344 2 years ago
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So, are you preaching that these arguments are unacceptable because there is an argument that you prefer to hear?
Oh, atheists and your silly not believing... lol
mrcostlow87 2 years ago
"Oh, atheists and your silly not believing... lol"
SAID A RETARD WHOSE CHANNEL IS FULL OF POKEMON CARTOONS.
Milla12344 2 years ago 8
i lol'd
djancak 2 years ago
loool 3:37 i know that feeling, it strips you of all logic and sense
ciucinciu 3 years ago
I love it when you say Satan.
FantasmaBAnco 3 years ago
how can you you be a good person you dont have a cage, lol man that hits the mark congratz
bajorjor1 3 years ago
I'm wondering what it says about me that I knew the picture of Buffy is from Once More With Feeling, and she's singing "Going thru the motions" - which matches up with the audio, and is presumably why you used it.
dave28lax 3 years ago
#7 is quote mining. It's as simple as that. He acknowledges his theory is absurd, then continues to provide evidence for it.
sputnikowns 3 years ago
I rather think that using the bible to prove the bible is a little bit like ordering your meal on holiday over seas. When they don't understand you, you just talk louder lol.
Were almost talking in different languages. They simply don't understand that we don't accept the bible as fact as they do, that thought just doesn't even cross their mind!.
(my hypothesis)
joebot1 3 years ago 3
Spot on joebot1.
tragichug 3 years ago
#5 was short but sweet and basically brilliant.
rhalas 3 years ago 3
If there is a watch, there was a watch maker!...but...if it's a phucked up watch that doesn't work right...we have a pretty incompetant creator who sucked at watch making ^_^. The creator can't blame the creation for it's faultinees, that's just stupid. I make a car, rev the engine, car explodes "STUPID CAR!"..no, i made it..stupid me.
Ravindra9689 3 years ago
Using a quote the way you describe in #7 is called "Quote Mining". Been used for generations by the thologists to support all their wacky interpretations, so why be surprised when they use it here ?
RyuDarragh 3 years ago
"I will not insult your intelligence"...
Somehow, I don't think that's possible to insult the intelligence of creationist. It's just a vague feeling, but don't you have to have intelligence in order to have it insulted?
middlekk 3 years ago 3
God is fake. Get over it.
juliaisafilmbuff 3 years ago 2
All your arguments were really good except the last one. If I give a child a useful object, but I can physically snatch that object away whenever I want, the child is not more powerful. Likewise with Satan and the Bible god.
So... I think to respond to "you're controlled by Satan" is to answer them likewise. They've made a completely baseless claim that can just as annoyingly be applied to them.
highwind8124 3 years ago 6
But if they didn't have fallacious arguments they'd have no arguments at all.
Libertarianist 3 years ago 5
Just 12? I think there is over 1000 arguments they shouldn't use.
sweatytoothmadman 3 years ago
Actually this ended up being an entire series
dechha1981 3 years ago
lol great
firesteel1 3 years ago
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God in fact has an origin in logic. venomfangx has a good vid.
commychristian 3 years ago
"God in fact has an origin in logic"
Not really. The best "argument" is "God made logic!" even though it's not even remotely "logical" to assert something like that.
The truth is, you gotta think of God SANS logic.
sonic8005 3 years ago
That is not the argument
commychristian 3 years ago
There are several "arguments". Fact remains: All of them suck.
"God" is not logical no matter how you slice it.
sonic8005 3 years ago 2
Two things that do not go together. venomfangx and logic.
Just because he reads from creationist web sites and pronounces all the words reasonably well does not make him a great spokesperson for your side.
His cheese has clearly slipped off its cracker.
middlekk 3 years ago
I'm going to agree with middlekk. Venomfang doesn't even allow comments. Also he gets his arguements from a convicted fellon who doesn't even know the difference betwen the Big Bang and Evolution.
dechha1981 3 years ago
fuckin awesome
mdilip 3 years ago 2
Never been a Christian but taking a stab at trying to explain why they quote the Bible:
Some of them really think it's a history textbook, not just a theological text. They cite the prophecies that the Bible says Jesus fulfilled and act that that's proof of something. Since they really believe the Bible is a historically reliable text, they can't understand why we see it as no more valid than Greek or Norse myths.
JohnLArmstrong 3 years ago 2
I didn't think you were going to make it through the whole thing, but you did!
Excellent stuff.
I had an "Einstein was wrong about the cosmological constant" the other day -- which of course, I had to point out was evidence IN FAVOR of the Big Bang. But these mouth-breathers don't understand the bullshit they're spouting.
It's like a bad episode of "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader."
5'/faved/subscribed.
middlekk 3 years ago 2
Great Video. LMAO
Gabebro1 3 years ago
wow, i thought that maybe the whole "eye" thing had been taken out of context, but I never knew just how badly it had been. Thanks for the post!!
danknjelly 3 years ago 4
lol
RanaRaethana 3 years ago
lol ya i love how ppl quote the bible and quran to prove their point,its fukin hilarious
NanakLove 3 years ago 2
"if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?"
LOL
A4AgnstcFndmntlst 4 years ago
I looooove this video..loooooove it.
Schmooze84 4 years ago
I recently found out that materialist philosophy is the "philosophy" that there's nothing beyond the material universe, no metaphysical stuff, etc. Only things that can be scientifically observed/measured exist.
It's a fancy label for not believing anything exists beyond the physical universe, like the paranormal
One reason it's BS is that "god" is only one branch of spirituality and atheism ONLY means not believing in that one branch; we can believe in ghosts, karma, the soul, etc.
technologysucks 4 years ago
lol, "If you see a this-thing, you know there must be a this-maker!"
ATL45 4 years ago 3
Just have to say, this series is one of the best yet!
Keep it up!
ThatOneQuestion 4 years ago 2
Wait a second, I thought that natural selection WAS a part of evolution.
Are you implying that natural selection is not a part of evolution? Or are you implying that creationists are saying that natural selection is not a part of evolution?
bearpaw72 4 years ago
Natural Selection + Mutation = Evolution. CREATIONISTS claim it's not. They say things like "Natural Selection has no evolutionary power", which is like saying "Controlled Explosions have no Internal Combustional power".
dechha1981 4 years ago
Evolution isn't that simple, but your premise is accurate
Galvadon 4 years ago
'Natural selection is the pressure which pushes evolution up mount improbable'
Richard Dawkins, Climbing Mount Improbable, chapter 6
Erech01 4 years ago
Great work! Dealing with theists constantly myself, I can totally relate to this video.
Favoriting, and subbing now.
TurpisHaereticum 4 years ago 2
interesting vid man, like the speedy voice and the last point hahah
dickhardy 4 years ago
if you believe, that every matter appeared from nothing, then you are nothing better then a square scientist, who believes to the big bang
scarysky 4 years ago
That was a bullshit strawman that makes no sense whatsoever. However, your stupidity amuses me.
dechha1981 4 years ago
where does matter come from?
scarysky 4 years ago
Are you sure it came from anywhere?
dechha1981 4 years ago
yes i am. i don´t believe in simpsons. found this vid just
/watch?v=879pmEZAkfE
life is not a phony, and the NEW world is not a phony
/watch?v=_CqeeAvkD1g
scarysky 4 years ago
You asked "Where does matter come from?" Where else is there? Another universe? And if there's another universe for matter to come from, then how did it get there?
dechha1981 4 years ago
You know what? Silly me, I was being rude to you. I should not be speaking rudely to you, I should block you alltogether for being a spammer.
dechha1981 4 years ago
You say that like it's a good thing. It's not. Spam is just anoying and it gets people banned, and, frankly, good riddance.
dechha1981 4 years ago
drmabus
I think I saw another comment almost if not actually exactly like that before, this morning actually. your comment was posted one minute ago, yet you have alreay been marked as Spam.
Is it possible, then, that you are, in fact, a Spammer? If you are a Spammer, then your opinion means nothing to me. That's why Troydungeon got banned.
dechha1981 4 years ago
i thought materialist philosophy was the worship of the material world.
zzbullan 4 years ago
I just love your reasoning with satan :D That was pretty darn well formulated. And since you delivered with a bit condecending, it just made the creationist look a bit more stupid (if that is even possible)
Portiadude 4 years ago 3
Epic Win.
Now, what are some cool books to check out that are probably in a public library?
SakiniX 4 years ago
Public library? I dunno. There's be some science books and books about dinosaurs there.
dechha1981 4 years ago
1. Everything that had a beginning had a cause
2. The universe had a beginning
3. Therefore the universe had a cause.
God did not have a beginning therefore he has no cause. That is what theist claim, you made a broad generalization about all theist. you were wrong.
Prophetes 4 years ago
See? Right there. You made God the one exception to all logic in the Universe.
But more to the point, you forget who's channel you're on.
Goodbye.
dechha1981 4 years ago
If you had JUST said that in your first comment I would have pointed out that the falacy in your claim THEN. (which is unnecesary because I said IN THE VIDEO that you were making god the one acception to all logic in the universe) however, I would not have blocked you. I don't block people for having a difference in opinion, I block them for being anoying. Your "You will reply to this comment" attitude is what got you blocked. There are comments from people I LIKE who I didn't reply to.
dechha1981 4 years ago
If being critiqued is annoying then i am going to bug you. Broad generalizations do not count? That's funny because you did it all through the video. Now on with the first cause that annoying robot said "they say everything was caused by something before that, etc." Wrong.
Prophetes 4 years ago
This video is stupid i'll just focus on one thing. Your first cause argument is horribly flawed. No need to go any further i'll wait till you respond so i can show you your ignorance.
Prophetes 4 years ago
Your comment is nothing but a broad generalization. Don't go telling me what to do. Frankly I'm tempted to block you just to show you what I do to people who make demands rather than just get on with it.
Nah. I'll let it slide. Judt don't do it again.
And GET ON WITH IT. Broad generalizations do not count.
dechha1981 4 years ago
See, if I was you, I wouldn't just make demands of people like that. I'd just get on with it and make my arguement. Frankly, your "You will come to me and respond to my comment" attitude is kind of arogant for a visitor to MY channel.
Just remember; here, I'M God. You can be blocked or deleted if you become too anoying. Here, I make demands. and that demand is;
GET ON WITH IT.
dechha1981 4 years ago
"so i can show you your ignorance."
LOL, how ironic
ThirstyonThursday 3 years ago
Satan is a human being and also god. So can we really say God was Superman and made by hollywood. The World is a product of a singular process. That´s what the materialistic philosophy says. Science provides the only logical structure for the illogical
hollow0rld 4 years ago
That makes even less sense.
dechha1981 4 years ago
The Messiah comes to the disaster, followed by the exodus. In the scheme history repeating itself
hollow0rld 4 years ago
hollow0rld, you put me in a little bit of a conflict;
(BTW I've changed my mind, I have no intention of blocking you)
I COULD make a video making fun of you and your Hollow Earth theory, just as I have Christians, Truthists and Conspiracy Theorists. However, this I'm sure would only provolk a reaction, increase the debate, etc.
Or alturnatively, I could just ignore you.
Not sure which I should do, haven't decided. What do you think?
dechha1981 4 years ago
yes, it was the great builder,the boss.If the bibel is not written by god, then enybody else did it.I think it´s naiv,not to beleve is. Adam was made of stone and he lived 900 years, so he can´t be human.Every where on planet we´ve got allmost same history,something can´t be true
hollow0rld 4 years ago
What makes your religion so special?
dechha1981 4 years ago
religion is the basic of humans history. Every scientific explanation, even the modern version, is just an other version. Sience reconstructs the history, so it is the logical complement.God's secret is not recognized, everything is done not to find it
hollow0rld 4 years ago
That doesn't quite make sense.
dechha1981 4 years ago
History is a part of science. Everything was once a history, so it is fundamental in any case, and relevant to their development
hollow0rld 4 years ago
I've never heard number 8 disposed of so visually before.
Rocksolid!
mindwis3 4 years ago 2
At least I'm not the only one that's noticed how rediculous the painting painter argumant is. I actually made a video pointing out that that metaphore and pretty much all others like it are in suport of paganism. 5*
AmberNightwolf 4 years ago 2
Cool, now I'm curious. I think I might watch it.
dechha1981 4 years ago
worth watching purely for 3:00.
tskaface 4 years ago
Funny video, too bad the mindless theists here just can't appreciate good work with little humor. Not to claim that all theist are mindless, their are rare occasions where a few have been found to actually have a brain! However slightly used in some ways but never when it comes to question their own mythical believes!
Vegasgodless 4 years ago
Nah,nah,nah...La, la, la, la, I can't hear you -I have my ears plugged Nah la,la,la..... Just kidding -your absolutely correct, great work!
debaucheryBotched 4 years ago
Youre an idiot. God is not the unmoved mover the unmoved mover is god. Its a logical assertion figure it out. Thesim turned god into something that requires faith to believe, LOGIC proves there is an unmoved mover ie that which is referred to as god. Most idiots have no idea of the basis of western religion including both those who accept it and those who deny it. Fucking dam get an education
ragemanh 4 years ago
You're actually defending the Arguement of the first Cause?
dechha1981 4 years ago
Honestly, the Arguement of the First Cause is illogical, stupid and self-defeating. Why the hell are you defending an arguement that contradicts itself? What proof do you have that there IS an "Unmoved Mover"? iff there WAS an 'Unmoved Mover", and EVERYTHING must have been moved, then who moved the mover? If the mover can move by itself, why can't everything else? It's a logical inconsistancy.
dechha1981 4 years ago
haha this guy forfeit the argument.
ArielCaboob 4 years ago
Brilliant great job.
atheistcapitalist 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
must be pretty good arguments for you to spend who knows how long making this video. without even considering the fact that many of them have been around for centuries, when will your ideas gain worldwide renown and validity? it eases my heart to know that my great great great grandkids will one day be able to open a book and explore the amazing validity of the dechha1981 Youtube Video Rebuttal of 2007.
cyberwaste.
kurtis2k3 4 years ago
do you have any argument against us or do you plan to insult us like a 3rd grader?
dissolvingchaos 4 years ago 2
You are a moron. I mean, come on! Pascal's Wager? #10 means YOU have no concience. Everything in #4 was just stupid. #8 doesn't even deserve to be called an arguement, but it's their MAIN arguement. And #6 doesn't even make sense!
dechha1981 4 years ago
If they were GOOD arguements, we would've been converted by now. They didnt work the first time we heard them and they're not gonna work the 745th time we hearde them. Quite frankly, the fact that you're even trying to defend a list of arguements that WE'RE TELLING YOU won't work because they're stupid and we've herad them all before says something about you. Don't try to defend these arguements, OK? Just come up with something better.
dechha1981 4 years ago
You know, the guy who makes the "Bad Astronomy" website (It's about misconceptions, conspiracy theories, sci-fi movies and generally all incorrect things about Astronomy) talks about Pseudo-scientists who use the sam illogical falacy as you. "If they try to debunk my theory, it must mean something, so it must be true! If they don't try to debunk my theory, then my theory is perfect so it must be true!" He says it's really frustrating for real Scientists.
dechha1981 4 years ago
That's quite brillant. Everytime I talk to a creationist I have to put up with at least one of these stupid question/statements. Now I'm just going to tell them to watch this.
workingclassbum 4 years ago 2
Nice job, thanks.
I hate when christians quote Darwin out of context.
BarryLeder 4 years ago
Awsome video! Hahahaha! "look to sceintolgy for answers on psycology! hahahahahah! Really good!
Salladsdressing 4 years ago
Yeeeaaa! Faved and featured. Excellent stuff!
GnosticAtheist 4 years ago
lmao about the last crazy circular arguement. The sad thing is we will still continue to hear these worthless arguements because they win people over.
nadiaTeeze 4 years ago
What was that comic that you showed at 7:44? Where could I find that online?
Yatheist 4 years ago
test
dechha1981 4 years ago
(sorry had trouble getting the comments to work) w w w dot chick dot com
dechha1981 4 years ago
They're called Chick Tracts, made by a religious fanatic named Jack T. Chick. I like his comics actually, he's so insane he's funny.
dechha1981 4 years ago
Agreed. Jack T. Chick is completely bonkers. Your final conclusion that Satan is God was great! I would love to see someone put together a series of anti-Chick Tracts.
takotheoktopus 4 years ago
Aww too bad you speak too fast sometimes. But otherwise, good video!
WeiSein 4 years ago
Maybe I edited it too much. (without editing it would be the oposite; there were some LONG pauses.)
dechha1981 4 years ago
great video, those arguments get so old...especially the watchermaker, i think i've heard that as much as every other argument put together.
dissolvingchaos 4 years ago
maybe if you got off youtube and stopped shoving your views down others' throats, you wouldnt have to hear it. try getting a job, contribute to society...even though all your work is vanity, along with your life, everyone you know, everything you do, your parents, your kids, your suicide, your thoughts, your feelings...etc etc etc.
kurtis2k3 4 years ago
fuck off you stupid moron. i believe you are the one shoving your views down other's throat you fucking hypocrite. btw i do have a job so why dont you fuck off
dissolvingchaos 4 years ago
The only thing worse than a Theist who thinks the First Cause is a good arguement is one who thinks they're psychic. You've never met dissolvingchaos. You don't know anything about him. Yet you state your guesses as fact. This makes you a LIAR. Do NOT tell us about ourselves. If you do so, and your guesses are even slightly inacurate, then you have NO credibility. The easiest way to loose our respect is to tell us about ourselves and guess wrong.
dechha1981 4 years ago
ahh...it is so difficult to narrow it down to just 12 without leaving a good one out...but this is a very good selection. Well done.
KingHeathen 4 years ago 2
i like your satan argument
THExGrimmace 4 years ago 2
Me too.
I saw an episode of The Way of the Master wher Kirk Cameron claimed Satan was "The god of this earth" and I took that to the logical conclusion.
dechha1981 4 years ago
sometimes i wish I were a theist to fight for distheism, but I don't like argument for the sake of argument enough to do that.
THExGrimmace 4 years ago