un mendoj qe politika shqiptare eshte e dobet pa mar parasysh se kush eshte ne qeveri,sepse ne fund te fundit politiken e ben forca (ekonomia dhe ushtria te dya bashk)dhe do na duhet kohe.un jam nga maqedonia dhe mendoj qe shqiptaret do te jen faktor vetem ateher kur do te kemi forcen ekonomike dhe sigurisht nje frym te re politikanesh. deklaratat i mer era forca vepron. Ate qe nuk do e bejn politikanet do e bej vet populli dhe se fundmi po ckeni mor me saliun hahahaha
these are facts sir based in real history,go read some real books,and not orxhodox propagadanda ......congratulations by albanian from macedonia (madhe-donia) or the oldest name emathia (e madhja) ....the biggest in albanian
monument of ancient greece what?????!!!! what mean AFERDITA or AFRODITA in your language,(AFER-CLOSE DITA-DAY in albanian aferdita is a star in the morning which shows coming of the day ) or EROS ( ERA-WIND in albanian) ARES (ARA-FIELD in albanian) etc etc who was grek civilisation ?????????????????????????????? hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaah
gayreeks you have nothing to do with helenes, you have fake history turks from anadoliia .mohamed ali was born in kavalla today greece, albanians of sicylia and kalabria are from peloponez(morea) /watch?v=vpYwdgGGwNs ore /watch?v=zN7kar0hstQ&feature=related that mean that greece was albanian
@albanian288 gayreeks you have nothing to do with helenes, you have fake history turks from anadoliia
OK, I WILL PLACE DIFFERENTLY THE SUBJECT, GRANTED THAT I AM AN ALBO, OR AN ETHIOPIAN WHO BELIEVES THAT IS A GREEK, AND I AM TRYING TO RESEMBLE TO GREEKS,.. YOU ALBANIAN WHY DO NOT TRY TO RESEMBLE TO ANCIENT GREEKS - EPIROTS AND AT THE OPPOSITE YOU WANT TO BE ILLYRIAN IN THE REGION OF EPIROS? INSOMUCH YOU KNOW THAT EPIROS WERE GREEK AND NOT ILLYRIANS!!!
YOUR HEROES ARE ALI PASA, OMER VRIONI, IMPRAIM PASA, MOHAMET ALI WHO GOVERNED EGYPTE (ARABIAN EGYPT) . THESE ARE YOU HEROES, LIKE SOMETHING ILLYRIAN-ARABIAN?
IN EPIROS AND MACEDONIA ONLY GREEK ANCIENT MONUMENTS EXIST (THERE ARE GREEK INSCRIPTIONS....YOU CAN NOT SHOW NEITHER ONE ONLY ALBANIAN FOR SAMPLE....THEREFORE YOU HAVE NOT ANY CONNECTION WITH THAT REGIONS.
BUT YOU CAN CONSTRUCT A NEW FAKE HISTORY , SO YOU HAVE ONE COMMON CHARACTER ELEMENT WITH SCOPIANOS AND TURKS. NAMELY, YOU MAKE THE FRIENDS WHO THEY DESERVES YOU. XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA
@KRONOSELLAS If a greek monument or a greek inscription will make the region greek then you are right. What you do not understand is that then only latin and greek were the written languages then and only these two languages will be found. For example you have build an orthodox church in Tirana, after the fall of communism, where even some stones were transported from Athens with greek inscriptions, which is true. Will you then claim Tirana in the coming centuries as greek?
@1ngatirana BUT YOU TELL US THE HALF TRUTH. NAMELY IF FOR EXAMPLE THEY FIND AN ANCIENT GREEK INSCRIPTION IN A REGION, THAT IT MEANS THAT GREEKS HAD A RELATION AND SOMEWHAT CONNECTION WITH THIS REGION, BUT FOR MORE INFO WE MUST REFER TO THE WRITTEN HISTORICAL TESTIMONIES IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE PAZL.. SO FROM ONE SIDE WE HAVE ARCHAEOLOGICAL MONUMENTS IN EPIROS ONLY GREEK. IN THE OTHE SIDE, DO YOU KNOW ANY WRITTEN HISTORICAL TESTIMONIES FOR ILLYRIE IN EPIROS?
@KRONOSELLAS You either don't want or you are unable to understand: you can not find any illirian inscription because they didn't have a written language. It was a big disadvantage that they didn't have a written language. The greeks knew that very well and have done all they could to prevent from having a language they could write. They even have killed the first teachers of Albanian language. Papa Kristo Negovani is one of them.
@1ngatirana You know that you have greek monuments in the south of Italy, monuments and greek inscriptions. Would you say it is greek, or would you say it is greek influence. Once more, people then wrotte only greek and latin. You deny every other ethnic community even inside greece, be it albanian (arvanites) vlach, sllavo maqedonian, or bulgarian. It is enough for you that they are orthodox to claim them as greeks. Unfortunately, they give up to that pressure of assimilation:(
@KRONOSELLAS AND THE JOKE IS THAT, WHEN I INSERT MYSELF IN ALBANIANS CANALS FOR ILLYRIE, I SEE MAPS OF ILLYRICUM THAT SHOW US THAT ILLYRICUM WERE A DIFFEREND REGION THAN EPIROS. YOUR COMPATRIOTS THEIR SELF THEY LOAD THAT MAPS...
@KRONOSELLAS Inscription is to write or to engrave on something, like a rock or metal. If you do not have a written language of your own you will write the written language of the day, be it greek or latin. I believe what scares you the most is not the past but the present. You have done your best to assimilate other ethnicities with the powerful help of the orthodox church. Now that power is no longer as it once was, and you do not want ethnic conscience of non greeks waking up....
@KRONOSELLAS If your estimation of 150000 greeks in Albania is correct that makes less than 5% of population. The population of cameria (or epiros as you claim it) is way much more than 5 % of the population of greece. The majority of the population in northwestern greece are arvanites orthodox. Illyrian tribes have live there for centuries and centuries.....
@KRONOSELLAS I really do not have time to repeat the issue of the inscriptions. An inscription is writing or carving in the written language of the time. Forget my whole on this, just take the view of your own historians, greek historians, a video that the greek church has done it's best to keep it away from the greek public: it is called SKAI documentary, about greek revolution in 1821. It is about about 40 minutes or so, listen to it and we can talk again in a civilized way..
@1ngatirana I WONDER IF YOU REMOVE THE GREEK ANCIENT ARCHAEOLOGICAL MONUMENTS AND THE FINDINGS OF EPIROS WHAT COULD YOU SHOW ABOUT YOUR CULTURE, AND YOUR SCIENCE TO A STRANGER? TAKE IT , AND THINK ABOUT THAT....
AND YOU MUST ANSWER WHERE DID YOU READ THAT EPIROTS WERE ILLYRIANS. BASIC QUESTION...
@KRONOSELLAS I do not understand why you have to wonder or ask basic question without making it a basic question this one: how come that the arvanites spoke a different language, a language that was not a written language and they lived in what is today northwestern greece. They have lived there for centuries and centuries, long before many greeks came from anadolia to settle in today's greece.
@KRONOSELLAS Are you saying that you do not even know about the population exhange between turkey and greece? Are you saying that many greeks from western turkey did not settle in greece after the greek independence?
@KRONOSELLAS You intend avoid the point. What i said was that the arvanites lived whereever they live in northwestern greece long before that population swap with turkey. What is here you do not understand?
@KRONOSELLAS The majority of the population in cameria (you call it epiros) spoke albanian (arvanites as you say) If they were greeks why in the world would their language be a non greek language? Unfortunately, with the help of the greek orthodox church, they gave up to the pressure of ethnic assimilation, as it was the same story with the vlach, the slavo maqedonian or the bulgarian inside the territory of what is today's greece.
@1ngatirana e kot esht me keta te debatosh.kta jan ni mut si serbet ate video e ka par se un ja publikova.keta jan te infektuar nga historite e mitet e servuara nga kisha ortodokse.besoj se historianet neper bot e din historin mir por jan interesat gjeopolitike dhe heshtin per te verteten.do ti vije nje dit koha edhe camerise por per kete duhet te punojm me te gjitha energjite qe kemi.
@albanian288 Eshte me se e vertete te besh nje debat te tille me fanatike, ngacilado ane qofshin ata. Koha e camerise do te vije vetem atehere kur ne qeveri te mos kemi qeveritare te shitur si keta te shitur qe kemi sot. Edhe gjakpiresi Enver Hoxha ka folur per vuajtjet e cameve, kurse Saliu nuk e di nese eshte filoserb apo filogrek apo te dyja bashke....
@1ngatirana The majority of the population in cameria (you call it epiros) spoke albanian (arvanites as you say) If they were greeks why in the world would their language be a non greek language?
YOU MUST FIRST LEARN WHICH WORDS OF ALBANIAN LANGUAGE ARE ALBANIAN (NAMELY THE ETYMOLOGY) AND WHICH ARE THE STRANGERS, THEN YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT ALBO LANGUAGE IN EPIROS
@KRONOSELLAS Well, the language the arvanites speak is albanian or shqip. Albania is a latin word for Shqiperia or Arberia. Isn't that clear to you? The word Illyria is: the land of the free. You are caged in the teaching of only greek and greek only mentality. The greek have a rich history but not everything is greek. If you insist in that then there is no point in further talk...
@KRONOSELLAS You either don't want or you are unable to understand: you can not find any illyrian inscription because they didn't have a written language. It was a big disadvantage that they didn't have a written language. The greeks knew that very well and have done all they could to prevent from having a language they could write. They even have killed the first teachers of Albanian language. Papa Kristo Negovani is one of them.
IN 1891 GUSTAV MEYER STATED IN HIS ETYMOLOGICAL DICTIONARY (ALBANIAN) THAT OF 5.140 ROOT-WORDS ONLY 400 WERE OF THE ORIGINAL ALBANIAN STOCK, THAT 1420 WERE ROMANCE, 540 SLAVONIC, 1180 TURKISH, 840 GREEK AND 760 INDETERMINABLE.
hahahahahahhaha stupid nation ,does have even 15 minutes history now they are stilling buhahahahahah banana states albania and kosovo ....MACEDONIA TIMELESS.. ALEXANDER THE GREAT
It's funny they ask for more sources more quotes, as if they will treat them any different as the ones in the video here .....I pitty their intellegence and their mentality.
The misionary review of the world" p. 780: "Albanians...They are the direct descedants of the ancient Illyrians, Macedonians, Epirotes, the offspring of the Pelasgians...".
There is plenty of sources from historians to world travelers who have traveled these regions in the balkans..and they are all mentioned as Albanian and populated by Albanian speaking individuals.....
I'm not going to waste my time finding them and pasting them here for someone who doesn't even know how to accept reality but lives in myths. Keep to your ignorant ideas while everyone who is educated laughs at these notions.
THE VIDEO HAS AN INTERESTING MAP ON 2.15'THAT SHOWS WHERE IS ILLYRIA AND WHERE IS EPIROS. TWO DIFFERENT REGIONS. IN FACT, IN EPIROS, ONLY ANCIENT GREEK MONUMENTS EXIST NOTHING ALBANIAN. IT IS VERIY INTERESTING ALSO THAT THE NAME ALBANIA IS ON THE RIGHT PLACE - NORTH OF NORTHEN EPIROS. YOU SEE ...WE CAN READ.
@KRONOSELLAS The only difference between Illyria/Epirus was the dialect Gheg North/Tosk South, separated by the Shkumbin River....still the same ...your argument is weak....and as far as the monuments they are a result of colonisation just like Brits did in India...is India British?
@Bardh87 that is you say, BUT the map says different information. I LOOK AT YOUR COMPATRIOTS CANALS ABOUT ILLYRIA AND ALL THEY HAVE MAPS WHICH SHOW THAT ILLYRIAS LIMIT IS SKOUBIN RIVER (GENOYSOS RIVER), AND SOUTH OF THE RIVER IS EPIROS. AND SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR LANGUAGE.. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY GREEKS WORDS TO YOU HAVE? OF COURSE YOU WILL SAY THAT THOSE ARE PELASGIANS, OR LATINS BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID OF GREEK ASSIMILATION. JUST SEARCH YOUR LANGUAGE.
@Bardh87 THE NOWDAYS ALBANIAN LANGUAGE AND THE ARVANITIKA IS FULL OF GREEK WORDS (WORDS SCIENTIFIC) . THE MOST IMPORTANT.. A CATTLE-BREEDER - [TSOMPANIS] OR A FARMER, AS THEY WERE, ALL OF ARVANITES HOW MANY WORDS DID THEY USE? 500? 1500? 2000? THIS LANGUAGE, DID NOT HAVE BEEN WRITEN TILL 1908 . ( THEY HAVE NOT BEEN WRITTEN ANY SCIENTIFIC STUDIES WITH THIS LANGUAGE TILL THEN .) THEREFORE ONE EDUCATED ARVANITES WAS VERSED OF THE GREEK LANGUAGE.
@Bardh87 your taxes?????????YOUR TAXES??????????????????give my money back slave..you eat from greece for years now and you know it...as i said.hide your hate better...relax albano..ok i ll go play...go do your homework now...but first you must steal some books....lol
this is so fake considering his mother was the Greek queens Olimpias from Epirus, and his father was Filippos the Greek of Makedonia.. Albania you only have Mother Theresa, no other important people, and even she moved to yugoslavia because she HATE ALBANIA
@LarisaHellas24 If you think he's mother was Greek and Filips mother wasn't Illyrian..than you have a long way to go...but what can I expect from people who use wikipedia as a source lol
bardh87 i want to ask you ? who have proved all this thing for you ? will you give me proof that all this thing is proved by one serious western historian except of albanians that have spent the most
@Riccardo024 what?? I learned this in a University in US about Alexander...everyone admits that Olympia and Eurydice were Illyrian.....everyone in any academic standing admits that he was a Greek King but not of Greek ethnicity...but so was Pirro/Pyrrhus...so was Marko Bocari ...etc see where im goin g with this...
ase tous file na onireuonte oti einai oi apogonoi tou napoleon oti i albania einai i simerini troia kai polla polla alla. oti i kleopatra gennithike stin albania kai oti oli anthropotita gennithike
Yeah yeah keep on dreaming. Everything yhas to do with Albania. Napoleon was Albanian the first man on the moon was albanian Einstein was Albanian even King Arthur was. Keep on dreaming that some day you will take a place in universal history
@Bardh87 MARCO BOTSARI HAD WRITTEN A VERY INTERESTING LEXICON ARVANITIKA-GREEK. THAT HAD 1490 WORDS IN ARVANITIKA AND 1700 IN GREEK. THESE WORDS HE KNEW . AND THESE WORDS ONE SIMPLE PEASANT, WAS USING, AS WELL AS ONE CATTLE-BREEDER - [TSOMPANIS] OR A FARMER, AS THEY WERE ALL ARVANITES . BUT ONE EDUCATED ARVANITES WAS VERSED OF THE GREEK LANGUAGE AS WELL AS OTHER EDUCATED GREEKS. ARVANITIKA WAS NOT A LANGUAGE WITH 1500 WORDS!! BRO, BUT IT WAS A LANGUAGE TOOL
@KRONOSELLAS WTF are you talking about ....Arvanite was just another form or dialect of Albanian....and the fact that he was Albanian and didn't even speak Greek till mid 20's is a fact...now go try to come up with something better....gypsy mix
@KRONOSELLAS You sink yourself in your own logic. An albanian moslem is a turkish albanian to you, but when it comes to a albanian orthodox, he is not even greek albanian, he is just greek. It does show the powerful influence religion has to weaken reason, or just simple logic!
@1ngatirana When we say TURKALBANIAN we do not say that you are the same race (blood) with Turks, we say that you had the same interests with Turks against Christians, and you had the same culture and mentality and morality with Turks (in proportionally how the religion adjusts this themes)
@KRONOSELLAS Without even knowing you are saying that religion has been important then, not ethnicity. But to you it was enough to be orthodox in order to become greek. Unfortunately in this trap fell many orthodox albanians, sulioti among others. For them (orthodox arvanites) it was a fight for their religion. To the greeks it was an opportunity to cement religion and nationality in one. Many ethnicities fell for it. I sincerely believe you know this but refuse to admit it openly..
@1ngatirana i admit it openly.. otherwise, i could not see that you are an orthodox Albanian...contrarily to Souliots who were indentified with Greek Idea.
@KRONOSELLAS There you go! You go back to religion and I go back to ethnicity which are two different things. As for my religion that would not be your bussines but I am willing to respond: I do not give a crap about any religion, any of them. They do program people's mind as it programmed the sulioti that for religion lost their ethnic roots. Their shed blood was lost for a country which wasn't theirs. Same goes with moslem Albanians. Ataturk had a albanian father...
pertaining to or characteristic of a people, especially a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like or even look i would add
@1ngatirana pertaining to or characteristic of a people, especially a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language
YES THAT DEFINITION IS CORRECT. BUT THE MOST USUAL IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO CONSTITUTE A NATION THEY HAVE THE SAME BLOOD. IN THE VIW THAT IN ORDER TO SOMEONE TO BECOME AN ENGLISH HE MUST TAKE ENGLISH BREEDING, THAT IT MEANS HE MUST HAVE ENGLISH PARENTS
@1ngatirana FIRST OF ALL WE MUST KNOW THE WORDS THAT WE USE. ETHNICITY, IS A GREEK WORD, WHICH BY ETYMOLOGY HAS ORIGIN FROM THE ETHOS=CUSTOM=TRADITIONS=ETHICS. SO ETHNICITY IS THE WHOLE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE SAME ETHICS. RELIGION IS A FACTOR WHICH INFLUENCE ON ETHICS. THEREFORE IT IS IMPORTANT A NATION TO HAS ONE RELIGION AND ONE ETHICAL SYSTEM. EUROPE ALSO (WEST WORLD CIVILIZATION) HAS 2 PRINCIPALS 1) GREEK PHILOSOPHY, 2) CHRISTIANITY.
@KRONOSELLAS i could not see that you are an orthodox Albanian..contrarily to Souliots who were indentified with Greek Idea.
...the above statement of yours admits that sulioti or the orthodox albanian are not greeks afterall (read it carefully) contrary to previous statements. Truth can not be hidden for too long! To me religion is poison, a sweet one in many cases. I care about ethnicity. I can change religion any time, just as Scanderbag or his father did, or have none.....
@1ngatirana I DO NOT SAY SOMETHING INCOMPREHENSIBLE , I SAY THAT SOULIOTS WERE GREEKS BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL , THEY WANTED THAT. IN GREECE WE HAVE MANY "GREEKS" WHO BELIEVES IN NOTHING, AND THAT THEY DO NOT BELONG TO ANY NATION. THE FIRST OF ALL, OF COURSE IS YOUR CONSCIENCE,. YOUR NATIONAL CONSCIENCE IT MAKES YOU ALBANIAN OR TURK..
@KRONOSELLAS Wrong my friend, your conscience makes you a servant to the state you live in, it does not give you ethnicity. Ethnicity it even has its own DNA, conscience does not! You say sulioti were greeks because they wanted that, which is fine, but why in the world (you did not answer that) would they speak a language that was not even a written one and non greek? National conscience does give you ethnicity my dear neighbour, it gives you citizenship of the country you live in.
@KRONOSELLAS Nonetheless I do understand you just fine, your point is well understood, by me at least!I I was trying to say that an ethnic group it even has different facial looks or body stature. Religion or conscience does not give you that.
@KRONOSELLAS Then he comes then from a different ethnic group, doesn't he? Just by the facial looks you can tell, he can be moslem or christian you will never know he he doesn't tell you. I have worked with greeks for 11 months in New York City in1986 (I might be old enough to be your father) and I had my doubts that some were not ethnic greeks, just by looking at their face. Sure enough, later on I even learned that they spoke the southern albanian dialect.....
So I think you need really strong and good proof to convince people that all theese things that you write on the video is true if you consider that Macedonians were speaking Greek and Albanians are not called Illyrians and they speak a king of Slavic Latin and Turkic language. You need really strong proof to convince people that you are Illyrians Pelasgians etc.
@Riccardo024 It's already proven that the Albanian language is the Illyrian language....it is the oldest one in the IE tree and it shows traces that are even older...we don't need to prove nothing to anyone because others have proved it for us.....
It is just happen theese people to live in the lands that were belonging to the Macedonian kingdom. As it is known from universal studies Greece, was divided in countries - states. Sparta, Athens, Aitolian and Achaean Confederation, Macedonia etc with common nationality the Greek and common language the Greek. As it is known the grandpa of Alexander came to the camp of Athineans to inform them that the Persians were starting the invasion to South Greece during the Greco Persian wars.
Further more everything that it was writen about Macedonia and Macedonian kings and so on was writen in Greek or Latin languages. The modern people who live in FYROM they use as Macedonian names only Alexander and Philippus and the rest are of Slavic origin like in Bulgaria and in Serbia. Macedonians were not using only these two names. Further more Pyrrus was speaking Greek as well how can you explain this? It is proved that FYROM doesn't have to do a thing nationally with ancient Macedonians.
One question. If Alexander and his family were not greek and were albanians then why they had names that were used in all of greece and they were speaking the greek language. We have never heard somewhere about macedonian language. After his death all the kingdoms were called hellenistic world. If Albanians were Illyrians then why are they called Sciptars and Albanians and why do they speak a mixture of slavic turkic and Albanian language?
I think as well that the Macedonians were not ethnic Hellenes but a mixed group of Hellenized Thraco-Illyrians. However is a bit naive for Albanians to claim Alexander as their own for people have overlapped thru language and ethnicity for thousands of years.
@blackarawak83 Alexander was 75% Illyrian by blood. He's conquest map doesn't show Illyria as conquered territory. Facts like Olympia and Eurydice being Illyrian are accepted and tought to others in colleges and universities in the US. In Romans texts they talk about a Kuvend-important meetings which are still called by the same word in Albania, the language is the oldest in the IE tree and even older. The Kanun Laws prove the authenticity of the race and no others have them in the region.
TRUE, ALEXANDER WAS MACEDONIAN...QUESTION:WHERE IS MACEDONIA????
1.SCANDINAVIA
2.GERMANY
3.FYROM...(ONE COUNTRY WITH SLAVS,ALBANIANS,BULGARIANS,GYPSIES,TURKISH,BITCHES,GAYS,WHATEVER...UGLY PEOPLE 4 SURE)
4.IN THE GLORIEST COUNTRY WHICH EVER SEE THIS WORLD...GREECE(HELLAS)...COUNTRY OF ARISTOTELES,SOKRATES,PERIKLES,LEONIDAS,ACHILLEAS,OMIROS,EL GRECO,KAZANTZAKIS,XATZIDAKIS,THEODORAKIS AND MANY MANY MANY PEOPLE...
We let you come in our country,we gave you jobs,we gave you shelter when your country was suffering and that's how you repay us? Trying to steal our history? Well guess again,history can't be stolen.You and the Skopians feel so hopeless with having no past and history that try to convince the world that Greek history is actually yours.Get a life,find your roots,you have no connection to Alexander the Great
@sidrialgr No one is trying to steal your history. If our argument would hold no water you do not have to worry! The world would laugh at what we have to say. But it is not that only we we are saying it. Albanian language was not written then, only latin and greek. Many of the documents come from the written latin language. As for jobs you give to immigrants you give what greeks don't want like in any country foreigners do the most difficult jobs for lesser pay.
@steve81132 Genuinely, his mother was Molossian (Illyrian) from the royal house of Epirus. What do you think why Alexander didn't occupy Illyria but the half world till Persia? The question is very simple. His dad was Macedonian, but the problem with the today's Macedonians and Greeks is not our dilemma.
@AlbanianLeader4 Phillip's mother was Eurydice, the daughter of Illyrian royalty Sirras....which makes Alexander 75% Illyrian.....just had to throw it in there incase you didn't know. Peace.
Alexander the Great is GREEK of course,that is worldwide known . Who is saying the opposite is A MORON,IDIOT AND STUPID. He is a wannabe GREEK. Point and dash.-
In the ancient Greek religion, Zeus ( /ˈzjuːs/ zews[3] zooss; Ancient Greek: Ζεύς; Modern Greek: Δίας, Dias) was the "Father of Gods and men" (πατὴρ ἀνδρῶν τε θεῶν τε)[4] who ruled the Olympians of Mount Olympus as a father ruled the family. He was the god of sky and thunder in Greek mythology.
Etymologically, the name is derived from the Greek "Αλέξανδρος" (Aléxandros), meaning "defending men" [1] or "protector of men", a compound of the verb "ἀλέξω" (alexō), "to ward off, to avert, to defend"[2] and the noun "ἀνδρός" (andros), genitive of "ἀνήρ" (anēr), "man".[3] It is an example of the widespread motif of Greek (or Indo-European more generally) names expressing "battle-prowess", in this case the ability to withstand or push back an enemy battle line.
These people(albanians) are generally and in all probability accurately identified as the result of the combination of the ancient Illyrians, Macedonians, and Epirotes, who were all the descendants of the more ancient Pelasgians.
Many races have come nd gone in Europe.Mighty hordes from the East swept over it at various times nd vanished in the course of history. But of the few originals inhabitants of Europe,the true Europeans,there still remain the Albanians,populating a mountainous section of Balkan Peninsula.The Albanians r the direct descendants of the Illyrians who lived in the south of europe since the down of history
@thesoftish He had pure Albanian blood! Both his mother Olympia and His father Philip the II were of albanian/illyrian origin, Olympia was a Molossian like Phirro i Epirit who were Illyrians, Philip the II both his wive and mother Eurodycie were Illyrian
@FuckGayrece Philip was the youngest son of the king Amyntas III and Eurydice I. In his youth, (c. 368–365 BC) Philip was held as a hostage in Thebes, which was the leading city of Greece during the Theban hegemony. While a captive there, Philip received a military and diplomatic education from Epaminondas, became eromenos of Pelopidas,[2][3] and lived with Pammenes, who was an enthusiastic advocate of the Sacred Band of Thebes...
@FuckGayrece Olympias (Greek: Ὀλυμπιάς, pronounced [olympiás], ca. 375–316 BC was a Greek princess of Epirus,daughter of king Neoptolemus I of Epirus, the fourth wife of the king of Macedonia,Philip II,and mother of Alexander the Great.She was a devout member of the orgiastic snake-worshiping cult of Dionysus,and it's suggested by the 1st century CE biographer! someone who doesn't believe your poor and fake arguments doesn't mean he is Greek...!
@christianotelo obviously you have a lot of time in your hands so Im not bothering reading your fucking essays. my time is too precious have fun with your trolling.
@FuckGayrece there is no English expression such as " u don't know dick about me second..." and does do know a shit load means??? u are so " educated " ..i can see that from your level in English...! i won't reply to you by saying dick and words like this.. ! i am not contemptible like you..i bet you will use Google translation for this word..!!!!!!!
@christianotelo Alexander name in albania is Leka today,that's why our coin is called "lek"
nd u know what alexander(aleksander) means in albanian language??? a(geg dialect)=is + le(geg dialect)=borned + ks(ksi geg dialect)=like + ander(geg dialect)=dream, so here it comes "is borned like in dream" the dream Omipia saw. In ancient macedonia is spooked geg dialcet,and today they still spoke the geg dialect
@christianotelo yes there are a lot of Albanians called aleksander. Aleksander Mojsiu famous albanian, Gjergj Kastriot Skenderbej, Turks gave him the title Bej in turkish Iskender "Leader Alexander" in honor of alexander the great. Philopos in albanian is Pirro so fuck you gay greek. Just because you can twist the names and translate them into your gay language doesnt make the people gayreek.
@FuckGayrece Alexander III of Macedon(20/21 July 356 – 10/11 June 323 BC), commonly known as Alexander the Great(Greek: Ἀλέξανδρος ὁ Μέγας, Aléxandros o Mégasi), was a Greek king of Macedon, a state in northern ancient Greece. Born in Pella in 356 BC, Alexander was tutored by Aristotle until the age of 16. By the age of thirty, he had created one of the largest empires of the ancient world, stretching from the Ionian Sea to the Himalayas. i want use words like f*** i am civilized!
Amyntas III (392-370) Argaios II (390) Alexander II (370-368) Ptolemy Alorites (368-365) Perdikkas III (365-359) Philip II (359-336) Alexander III the Great (336-323) Philip III Arrhidaios (323-317) Alexander IV Aegeos (323-309) RIVAL KINGS: 309-301 B.C. Kassander Antigonos I Monophthalmos Demetrios I Poliorketes Lysimachos Seleukos Soter Ptolemy Lagos ANTIPATRID DYNASTY Kassander (301-297) Philip IV (297) Antipater (297-294)
What about all the other Greek kings of Macedonia KINGS OF ANCIENT MACEDONIA ARGEAD DYNASTY Karanos (c. Late 9th/Early 8th Cent.) Koinos (c. Mid-8th Cent.) Tyrimmas (c. Late 8th/Early 7th Cent.) Perdikkas I (c. 670-652) Argaios I (652-621) Philip I (621-588) Aeropos I (588-68) Alketas (568-40) Amyntas I (540-498) Alexander I (c. 498-454) Perdikkas II (c. 454-413) Archelaus (413-399) Orestes (399-396) Aeropos II (396-393) Pausanias (393) Amyntas II the Little (393) Amyntas III (392-370)
hey just see something more... greeks used to have a god named zeus ( ζευσ ) which comes from the illyrian word ZOT-ZEYS...illyrian-pelasgian-arber-albania kings of balkan,europe,world !
Hes mother was maybe Illyrian but you cant claim that hes Illyrian because he fought for Greece not for Illyria and hes father was greek and he was raised Greek so please stop claiming that he was Illyrian / Albanian. I also really hate it when Serbs or Greek claim that Skenderbeu was from there ethnicity so stop this bullshit. Alexander the Great was Greek and Skenderbeu was Albanian end of story. And this is coming from an Albanian.
@1337yalla Don't give up so easily to the Gayreeks and their fake history on youtube.
I took Classical Cultures courses in NYC and asked specific questions about Alexander the Great and got the answers from authorized PHD on the subject.
My Question: Was Alexander Greek?
Answer: He was a Greek King, but not Greek by blood/origin, he was Macedonian/Illyrian.
Also, are you aware that Alexander, Pirro and Skenderbeu all wore the goat nymph crown that raised/fed Zeus?
un mendoj qe politika shqiptare eshte e dobet pa mar parasysh se kush eshte ne qeveri,sepse ne fund te fundit politiken e ben forca (ekonomia dhe ushtria te dya bashk)dhe do na duhet kohe.un jam nga maqedonia dhe mendoj qe shqiptaret do te jen faktor vetem ateher kur do te kemi forcen ekonomike dhe sigurisht nje frym te re politikanesh. deklaratat i mer era forca vepron. Ate qe nuk do e bejn politikanet do e bej vet populli dhe se fundmi po ckeni mor me saliun hahahaha
albanian288 4 hours ago
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these are facts sir based in real history,go read some real books,and not orxhodox propagadanda ......congratulations by albanian from macedonia (madhe-donia) or the oldest name emathia (e madhja) ....the biggest in albanian
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so what ali pasa was king of epir, hi rule epir with epirot albanians. where were greeks at that time,in anadoll iahahahahahahahahahaha again
albanian288 1 day ago
/watch?v=I5SBBmJsg5s&feature=related another history for you greeks fuck off
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monument of ancient greece what?????!!!! what mean AFERDITA or AFRODITA in your language,(AFER-CLOSE DITA-DAY in albanian aferdita is a star in the morning which shows coming of the day ) or EROS ( ERA-WIND in albanian) ARES (ARA-FIELD in albanian) etc etc who was grek civilisation ?????????????????????????????? hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaah
albanian288 1 day ago
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albanian288 1 day ago
/watch?v=23kvAhdYgwY whach ur history again
albanian288 1 day ago
your land is i turkia
albanian288 1 day ago
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@albanian288 your land is i turkia
THAT IS ALMOST CORRECT, GREEK LAND IS ALSO AND MINOR ASIA...
KRONOSELLAS 1 day ago
gayreeks you have nothing to do with helenes, you have fake history turks from anadoliia .mohamed ali was born in kavalla today greece, albanians of sicylia and kalabria are from peloponez(morea) /watch?v=vpYwdgGGwNs ore /watch?v=zN7kar0hstQ&feature=related that mean that greece was albanian
albanian288 1 day ago
@albanian288 HAVE YOU GOT SOME PROOFS FOR THAT? I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE AMONG THEORIES AND PROOFS...
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@albanian288 gayreeks you have nothing to do with helenes, you have fake history turks from anadoliia
OK, I WILL PLACE DIFFERENTLY THE SUBJECT, GRANTED THAT I AM AN ALBO, OR AN ETHIOPIAN WHO BELIEVES THAT IS A GREEK, AND I AM TRYING TO RESEMBLE TO GREEKS,.. YOU ALBANIAN WHY DO NOT TRY TO RESEMBLE TO ANCIENT GREEKS - EPIROTS AND AT THE OPPOSITE YOU WANT TO BE ILLYRIAN IN THE REGION OF EPIROS? INSOMUCH YOU KNOW THAT EPIROS WERE GREEK AND NOT ILLYRIANS!!!
KRONOSELLAS 5 hours ago
YOUR HEROES ARE ALI PASA, OMER VRIONI, IMPRAIM PASA, MOHAMET ALI WHO GOVERNED EGYPTE (ARABIAN EGYPT) . THESE ARE YOU HEROES, LIKE SOMETHING ILLYRIAN-ARABIAN?
KRONOSELLAS 2 days ago
IN EPIROS AND MACEDONIA ONLY GREEK ANCIENT MONUMENTS EXIST (THERE ARE GREEK INSCRIPTIONS....YOU CAN NOT SHOW NEITHER ONE ONLY ALBANIAN FOR SAMPLE....THEREFORE YOU HAVE NOT ANY CONNECTION WITH THAT REGIONS.
BUT YOU CAN CONSTRUCT A NEW FAKE HISTORY , SO YOU HAVE ONE COMMON CHARACTER ELEMENT WITH SCOPIANOS AND TURKS. NAMELY, YOU MAKE THE FRIENDS WHO THEY DESERVES YOU. XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA
KRONOSELLAS 2 days ago
@KRONOSELLAS If a greek monument or a greek inscription will make the region greek then you are right. What you do not understand is that then only latin and greek were the written languages then and only these two languages will be found. For example you have build an orthodox church in Tirana, after the fall of communism, where even some stones were transported from Athens with greek inscriptions, which is true. Will you then claim Tirana in the coming centuries as greek?
1ngatirana 23 hours ago
@1ngatirana BUT YOU TELL US THE HALF TRUTH. NAMELY IF FOR EXAMPLE THEY FIND AN ANCIENT GREEK INSCRIPTION IN A REGION, THAT IT MEANS THAT GREEKS HAD A RELATION AND SOMEWHAT CONNECTION WITH THIS REGION, BUT FOR MORE INFO WE MUST REFER TO THE WRITTEN HISTORICAL TESTIMONIES IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE PAZL.. SO FROM ONE SIDE WE HAVE ARCHAEOLOGICAL MONUMENTS IN EPIROS ONLY GREEK. IN THE OTHE SIDE, DO YOU KNOW ANY WRITTEN HISTORICAL TESTIMONIES FOR ILLYRIE IN EPIROS?
KRONOSELLAS 11 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS You either don't want or you are unable to understand: you can not find any illirian inscription because they didn't have a written language. It was a big disadvantage that they didn't have a written language. The greeks knew that very well and have done all they could to prevent from having a language they could write. They even have killed the first teachers of Albanian language. Papa Kristo Negovani is one of them.
1ngatirana 11 hours ago
@1ngatirana You know that you have greek monuments in the south of Italy, monuments and greek inscriptions. Would you say it is greek, or would you say it is greek influence. Once more, people then wrotte only greek and latin. You deny every other ethnic community even inside greece, be it albanian (arvanites) vlach, sllavo maqedonian, or bulgarian. It is enough for you that they are orthodox to claim them as greeks. Unfortunately, they give up to that pressure of assimilation:(
1ngatirana 11 hours ago
@1ngatirana BUT THEY HAVE FOUND ILLYRIC INSCRIPTIONS IN ILLYRIC REGIONS, BUT NO IN EPIROS.
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@KRONOSELLAS AND THE JOKE IS THAT, WHEN I INSERT MYSELF IN ALBANIANS CANALS FOR ILLYRIE, I SEE MAPS OF ILLYRICUM THAT SHOW US THAT ILLYRICUM WERE A DIFFEREND REGION THAN EPIROS. YOUR COMPATRIOTS THEIR SELF THEY LOAD THAT MAPS...
KRONOSELLAS 11 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS Inscription is to write or to engrave on something, like a rock or metal. If you do not have a written language of your own you will write the written language of the day, be it greek or latin. I believe what scares you the most is not the past but the present. You have done your best to assimilate other ethnicities with the powerful help of the orthodox church. Now that power is no longer as it once was, and you do not want ethnic conscience of non greeks waking up....
1ngatirana 10 hours ago
@1ngatirana YES BUT WE STILL HAVE 150000 GREEKS IN ALBANIA AND YOU DO NOT ANSWER YET WHERE DID YOU READ THAT EPIROTAN WERE ILLYRIE ....
KRONOSELLAS 10 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS If your estimation of 150000 greeks in Albania is correct that makes less than 5% of population. The population of cameria (or epiros as you claim it) is way much more than 5 % of the population of greece. The majority of the population in northwestern greece are arvanites orthodox. Illyrian tribes have live there for centuries and centuries.....
1ngatirana 6 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS I really do not have time to repeat the issue of the inscriptions. An inscription is writing or carving in the written language of the time. Forget my whole on this, just take the view of your own historians, greek historians, a video that the greek church has done it's best to keep it away from the greek public: it is called SKAI documentary, about greek revolution in 1821. It is about about 40 minutes or so, listen to it and we can talk again in a civilized way..
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@1ngatirana I WONDER IF YOU REMOVE THE GREEK ANCIENT ARCHAEOLOGICAL MONUMENTS AND THE FINDINGS OF EPIROS WHAT COULD YOU SHOW ABOUT YOUR CULTURE, AND YOUR SCIENCE TO A STRANGER? TAKE IT , AND THINK ABOUT THAT....
AND YOU MUST ANSWER WHERE DID YOU READ THAT EPIROTS WERE ILLYRIANS. BASIC QUESTION...
KRONOSELLAS 6 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS I do not understand why you have to wonder or ask basic question without making it a basic question this one: how come that the arvanites spoke a different language, a language that was not a written language and they lived in what is today northwestern greece. They have lived there for centuries and centuries, long before many greeks came from anadolia to settle in today's greece.
1ngatirana 5 hours ago
@1ngatirana Greeks from anatolia? It is more probably Greeks had come from Amerika.. Did you read someone ancient writter?
KRONOSELLAS 5 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS Are you saying that you do not even know about the population exhange between turkey and greece? Are you saying that many greeks from western turkey did not settle in greece after the greek independence?
1ngatirana 5 hours ago
@1ngatirana BUT, MY FRIEND, WESTERN TURKEY IS GREEK LAND UNDER THE OCCUPANCY OF TURKS, I HAVE MY LAND THERE. ONE OF MY GRANDFATHERS WAS FROM THERE!!
THERE EXIST MORE ANCIENT GREEK MONUMENTS THAN IN GREECE!
KRONOSELLAS 4 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS You intend avoid the point. What i said was that the arvanites lived whereever they live in northwestern greece long before that population swap with turkey. What is here you do not understand?
1ngatirana 2 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS Was your grandfather killed there as the Chams (the arvanite moslems) were in chameria in 1772, in 1821, 1924, or 1945?
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@1ngatirana we had 1/2 milion dead (and more)
KRONOSELLAS 1 hour ago
@1ngatirana SEARCH ABOUT EFESOS IF YOU LIKE
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@1ngatirana SEARCH ABOUT Miletus IF YOU LIKE
KRONOSELLAS 4 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS The majority of the population in cameria (you call it epiros) spoke albanian (arvanites as you say) If they were greeks why in the world would their language be a non greek language? Unfortunately, with the help of the greek orthodox church, they gave up to the pressure of ethnic assimilation, as it was the same story with the vlach, the slavo maqedonian or the bulgarian inside the territory of what is today's greece.
1ngatirana 6 hours ago
@1ngatirana e kot esht me keta te debatosh.kta jan ni mut si serbet ate video e ka par se un ja publikova.keta jan te infektuar nga historite e mitet e servuara nga kisha ortodokse.besoj se historianet neper bot e din historin mir por jan interesat gjeopolitike dhe heshtin per te verteten.do ti vije nje dit koha edhe camerise por per kete duhet te punojm me te gjitha energjite qe kemi.
albanian288 5 hours ago
@albanian288 Eshte me se e vertete te besh nje debat te tille me fanatike, ngacilado ane qofshin ata. Koha e camerise do te vije vetem atehere kur ne qeveri te mos kemi qeveritare te shitur si keta te shitur qe kemi sot. Edhe gjakpiresi Enver Hoxha ka folur per vuajtjet e cameve, kurse Saliu nuk e di nese eshte filoserb apo filogrek apo te dyja bashke....
1ngatirana 5 hours ago
@1ngatirana The majority of the population in cameria (you call it epiros) spoke albanian (arvanites as you say) If they were greeks why in the world would their language be a non greek language?
YOU MUST FIRST LEARN WHICH WORDS OF ALBANIAN LANGUAGE ARE ALBANIAN (NAMELY THE ETYMOLOGY) AND WHICH ARE THE STRANGERS, THEN YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT ALBO LANGUAGE IN EPIROS
KRONOSELLAS 4 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS Well, the language the arvanites speak is albanian or shqip. Albania is a latin word for Shqiperia or Arberia. Isn't that clear to you? The word Illyria is: the land of the free. You are caged in the teaching of only greek and greek only mentality. The greek have a rich history but not everything is greek. If you insist in that then there is no point in further talk...
1ngatirana 3 hours ago
@1ngatirana THEY HAVE FOUND ILLYRIC INSCRIPTIONS IN ILLYRIC REGIONS BUT NOT IN EPIROS. THATMEANS SOMETHING
KRONOSELLAS 10 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS Once again inscription is something written or carved in a rock or metal in the written language of the time.
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@KRONOSELLAS You either don't want or you are unable to understand: you can not find any illyrian inscription because they didn't have a written language. It was a big disadvantage that they didn't have a written language. The greeks knew that very well and have done all they could to prevent from having a language they could write. They even have killed the first teachers of Albanian language. Papa Kristo Negovani is one of them.
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@albanian288 who was musaz kafziz?
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/watch?v=xHc30m6bvz8 hajde cameria opaaa sssssssss
albanian288 4 days ago
/watch?v=23kvAhdYgwY here is the greek history by greek historians
albanian288 4 days ago
/watch?v=23kvAhdYgwY shifni historin e vertet greke ....gjithcka eshte shqiptare
albanian288 4 days ago
?what the hell!
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IN 1891 GUSTAV MEYER STATED IN HIS ETYMOLOGICAL DICTIONARY (ALBANIAN) THAT OF 5.140 ROOT-WORDS ONLY 400 WERE OF THE ORIGINAL ALBANIAN STOCK, THAT 1420 WERE ROMANCE, 540 SLAVONIC, 1180 TURKISH, 840 GREEK AND 760 INDETERMINABLE.
KRONOSELLAS 1 week ago
hahahahahahhaha stupid nation ,does have even 15 minutes history now they are stilling buhahahahahah banana states albania and kosovo ....MACEDONIA TIMELESS.. ALEXANDER THE GREAT
bojan1647 1 week ago
@bojan1647 vie ne doagade vo predvid ni 15 secondi mrs bugari
albanian288 4 days ago
albanians comes from caucase
ralezvezdas 1 week ago
By the way....the KANUN itself shits on all your theories and proved the authenticity of the Albanian race in the Balkans.....
Bardh87 1 week ago
It's funny they ask for more sources more quotes, as if they will treat them any different as the ones in the video here .....I pitty their intellegence and their mentality.
Bardh87 1 week ago
I shouldn't be wasting my time with idiots but I like to shit on them for fun.
Bardh87 1 week ago
The misionary review of the world" p. 780: "Albanians...They are the direct descedants of the ancient Illyrians, Macedonians, Epirotes, the offspring of the Pelasgians...".
Bardh87 1 week ago
There is plenty of sources from historians to world travelers who have traveled these regions in the balkans..and they are all mentioned as Albanian and populated by Albanian speaking individuals.....
I'm not going to waste my time finding them and pasting them here for someone who doesn't even know how to accept reality but lives in myths. Keep to your ignorant ideas while everyone who is educated laughs at these notions.
Bardh87 1 week ago
Scanderbeg
A letter that send to Prince of Tarranto , Giovani Antonio , Wrote:
"My Forefathers were Epirotes , from which Pyrrhus rose who won the Romans"
Bardh87 1 week ago
THE VIDEO HAS AN INTERESTING MAP ON 2.15'THAT SHOWS WHERE IS ILLYRIA AND WHERE IS EPIROS. TWO DIFFERENT REGIONS. IN FACT, IN EPIROS, ONLY ANCIENT GREEK MONUMENTS EXIST NOTHING ALBANIAN. IT IS VERIY INTERESTING ALSO THAT THE NAME ALBANIA IS ON THE RIGHT PLACE - NORTH OF NORTHEN EPIROS. YOU SEE ...WE CAN READ.
KRONOSELLAS 1 week ago
@KRONOSELLAS The only difference between Illyria/Epirus was the dialect Gheg North/Tosk South, separated by the Shkumbin River....still the same ...your argument is weak....and as far as the monuments they are a result of colonisation just like Brits did in India...is India British?
Bardh87 1 week ago
@Bardh87 that is you say, BUT the map says different information. I LOOK AT YOUR COMPATRIOTS CANALS ABOUT ILLYRIA AND ALL THEY HAVE MAPS WHICH SHOW THAT ILLYRIAS LIMIT IS SKOUBIN RIVER (GENOYSOS RIVER), AND SOUTH OF THE RIVER IS EPIROS. AND SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR LANGUAGE.. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY GREEKS WORDS TO YOU HAVE? OF COURSE YOU WILL SAY THAT THOSE ARE PELASGIANS, OR LATINS BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID OF GREEK ASSIMILATION. JUST SEARCH YOUR LANGUAGE.
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@Bardh87 THE NOWDAYS ALBANIAN LANGUAGE AND THE ARVANITIKA IS FULL OF GREEK WORDS (WORDS SCIENTIFIC) . THE MOST IMPORTANT.. A CATTLE-BREEDER - [TSOMPANIS] OR A FARMER, AS THEY WERE, ALL OF ARVANITES HOW MANY WORDS DID THEY USE? 500? 1500? 2000? THIS LANGUAGE, DID NOT HAVE BEEN WRITEN TILL 1908 . ( THEY HAVE NOT BEEN WRITTEN ANY SCIENTIFIC STUDIES WITH THIS LANGUAGE TILL THEN .) THEREFORE ONE EDUCATED ARVANITES WAS VERSED OF THE GREEK LANGUAGE.
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@Bardh87 your taxes?????????YOUR TAXES??????????????????give my money back slave..you eat from greece for years now and you know it...as i said.hide your hate better...relax albano..ok i ll go play...go do your homework now...but first you must steal some books....lol
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socrates6068 1 week ago
this is so fake considering his mother was the Greek queens Olimpias from Epirus, and his father was Filippos the Greek of Makedonia.. Albania you only have Mother Theresa, no other important people, and even she moved to yugoslavia because she HATE ALBANIA
LarisaHellas24 1 week ago
@LarisaHellas24 If you think he's mother was Greek and Filips mother wasn't Illyrian..than you have a long way to go...but what can I expect from people who use wikipedia as a source lol
Bardh87 1 week ago
of his life to find out all this thing that you talk about
Riccardo024 1 week ago
bardh87 i want to ask you ? who have proved all this thing for you ? will you give me proof that all this thing is proved by one serious western historian except of albanians that have spent the most
Riccardo024 1 week ago
@Riccardo024 what?? I learned this in a University in US about Alexander...everyone admits that Olympia and Eurydice were Illyrian.....everyone in any academic standing admits that he was a Greek King but not of Greek ethnicity...but so was Pirro/Pyrrhus...so was Marko Bocari ...etc see where im goin g with this...
Bardh87 1 week ago
mesa stis spilies tis albanias opos lene autoi ekei. diladi auta pou tous mathenoune. kathe 3 hronia allazou tin ethnikotita tous. eleos me autous mas ehoun mperdepsei
Riccardo024 1 week ago
ase tous file na onireuonte oti einai oi apogonoi tou napoleon oti i albania einai i simerini troia kai polla polla alla. oti i kleopatra gennithike stin albania kai oti oli anthropotita gennithike
Riccardo024 1 week ago
Are you serious?????????????????????? xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa, read some World-History, not only History teached in Albania
neirini 1 week ago
Bardh87
Yeah yeah keep on dreaming. Everything yhas to do with Albania. Napoleon was Albanian the first man on the moon was albanian Einstein was Albanian even King Arthur was. Keep on dreaming that some day you will take a place in universal history
Riccardo024 1 week ago
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xaxaxaxaxaxaxa........kalo!
neirini 1 week ago
@Riccardo024 nice argument...your a true intellect or should I just say a typical image of a Greek with a below 0 iq.
Bardh87 1 week ago
@Bardh87 WHY YOU DO NOT WRITE A STUDY? MAYBE IT WILL BE A BEST SELLER OF SCIENTIFIC IMAGINATION....
KRONOSELLAS 1 week ago
@KRONOSELLAS no one can take that from you
Bardh87 1 week ago
@Bardh87 MARCO BOTSARI HAD WRITTEN A VERY INTERESTING LEXICON ARVANITIKA-GREEK. THAT HAD 1490 WORDS IN ARVANITIKA AND 1700 IN GREEK. THESE WORDS HE KNEW . AND THESE WORDS ONE SIMPLE PEASANT, WAS USING, AS WELL AS ONE CATTLE-BREEDER - [TSOMPANIS] OR A FARMER, AS THEY WERE ALL ARVANITES . BUT ONE EDUCATED ARVANITES WAS VERSED OF THE GREEK LANGUAGE AS WELL AS OTHER EDUCATED GREEKS. ARVANITIKA WAS NOT A LANGUAGE WITH 1500 WORDS!! BRO, BUT IT WAS A LANGUAGE TOOL
KRONOSELLAS 1 week ago
@KRONOSELLAS WTF are you talking about ....Arvanite was just another form or dialect of Albanian....and the fact that he was Albanian and didn't even speak Greek till mid 20's is a fact...now go try to come up with something better....gypsy mix
Bardh87 1 week ago
@Bardh87 I learn some Albanian, well I think that you must better call it Albanolatinogregoturkslavonic? maybe like your language is you people?!!
KRONOSELLAS 1 week ago
@KRONOSELLAS /watch?v=23kvAhdYgwY here is your history
albanian288 4 days ago
@albanian288 I have been impressed!!
I, also, will become a good TurkAlvanian
KRONOSELLAS 4 days ago
@KRONOSELLAS You sink yourself in your own logic. An albanian moslem is a turkish albanian to you, but when it comes to a albanian orthodox, he is not even greek albanian, he is just greek. It does show the powerful influence religion has to weaken reason, or just simple logic!
1ngatirana 5 hours ago
@1ngatirana When we say TURKALBANIAN we do not say that you are the same race (blood) with Turks, we say that you had the same interests with Turks against Christians, and you had the same culture and mentality and morality with Turks (in proportionally how the religion adjusts this themes)
KRONOSELLAS 5 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS Without even knowing you are saying that religion has been important then, not ethnicity. But to you it was enough to be orthodox in order to become greek. Unfortunately in this trap fell many orthodox albanians, sulioti among others. For them (orthodox arvanites) it was a fight for their religion. To the greeks it was an opportunity to cement religion and nationality in one. Many ethnicities fell for it. I sincerely believe you know this but refuse to admit it openly..
1ngatirana 5 hours ago
@1ngatirana i admit it openly.. otherwise, i could not see that you are an orthodox Albanian...contrarily to Souliots who were indentified with Greek Idea.
KRONOSELLAS 5 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS There you go! You go back to religion and I go back to ethnicity which are two different things. As for my religion that would not be your bussines but I am willing to respond: I do not give a crap about any religion, any of them. They do program people's mind as it programmed the sulioti that for religion lost their ethnic roots. Their shed blood was lost for a country which wasn't theirs. Same goes with moslem Albanians. Ataturk had a albanian father...
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eth·nic [eth-nik] Show IPA
adjective
1.
pertaining to or characteristic of a people, especially a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like or even look i would add
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@1ngatirana pertaining to or characteristic of a people, especially a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language
YES THAT DEFINITION IS CORRECT. BUT THE MOST USUAL IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO CONSTITUTE A NATION THEY HAVE THE SAME BLOOD. IN THE VIW THAT IN ORDER TO SOMEONE TO BECOME AN ENGLISH HE MUST TAKE ENGLISH BREEDING, THAT IT MEANS HE MUST HAVE ENGLISH PARENTS
KRONOSELLAS 33 minutes ago
@KRONOSELLAS I do not know greek but dictionary says what i just posted
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@1ngatirana FIRST OF ALL WE MUST KNOW THE WORDS THAT WE USE. ETHNICITY, IS A GREEK WORD, WHICH BY ETYMOLOGY HAS ORIGIN FROM THE ETHOS=CUSTOM=TRADITIONS=ETHICS. SO ETHNICITY IS THE WHOLE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE SAME ETHICS. RELIGION IS A FACTOR WHICH INFLUENCE ON ETHICS. THEREFORE IT IS IMPORTANT A NATION TO HAS ONE RELIGION AND ONE ETHICAL SYSTEM. EUROPE ALSO (WEST WORLD CIVILIZATION) HAS 2 PRINCIPALS 1) GREEK PHILOSOPHY, 2) CHRISTIANITY.
KRONOSELLAS 48 minutes ago
@KRONOSELLAS i could not see that you are an orthodox Albanian..contrarily to Souliots who were indentified with Greek Idea.
...the above statement of yours admits that sulioti or the orthodox albanian are not greeks afterall (read it carefully) contrary to previous statements. Truth can not be hidden for too long! To me religion is poison, a sweet one in many cases. I care about ethnicity. I can change religion any time, just as Scanderbag or his father did, or have none.....
1ngatirana 2 hours ago
@1ngatirana I DO NOT SAY SOMETHING INCOMPREHENSIBLE , I SAY THAT SOULIOTS WERE GREEKS BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL , THEY WANTED THAT. IN GREECE WE HAVE MANY "GREEKS" WHO BELIEVES IN NOTHING, AND THAT THEY DO NOT BELONG TO ANY NATION. THE FIRST OF ALL, OF COURSE IS YOUR CONSCIENCE,. YOUR NATIONAL CONSCIENCE IT MAKES YOU ALBANIAN OR TURK..
KRONOSELLAS 1 hour ago
@KRONOSELLAS Wrong my friend, your conscience makes you a servant to the state you live in, it does not give you ethnicity. Ethnicity it even has its own DNA, conscience does not! You say sulioti were greeks because they wanted that, which is fine, but why in the world (you did not answer that) would they speak a language that was not even a written one and non greek? National conscience does give you ethnicity my dear neighbour, it gives you citizenship of the country you live in.
1ngatirana 55 minutes ago
@KRONOSELLAS National conscience does not give you ethnicity, it only gives you a citizenship of the country you live in.....
1ngatirana 52 minutes ago
@KRONOSELLAS You keep removing your own comments, which tells me that you are not even sure of the weight your comments have......
1ngatirana 34 minutes ago
@1ngatirana YES I DO NOT KNOW ENGLISH WELL
KRONOSELLAS 31 minutes ago
@KRONOSELLAS Nonetheless I do understand you just fine, your point is well understood, by me at least!I I was trying to say that an ethnic group it even has different facial looks or body stature. Religion or conscience does not give you that.
1ngatirana 22 minutes ago
@1ngatirana yes from the view of race, if you see a black man, you will difficulty believe that is an English.
KRONOSELLAS 13 minutes ago
@KRONOSELLAS Then he comes then from a different ethnic group, doesn't he? Just by the facial looks you can tell, he can be moslem or christian you will never know he he doesn't tell you. I have worked with greeks for 11 months in New York City in1986 (I might be old enough to be your father) and I had my doubts that some were not ethnic greeks, just by looking at their face. Sure enough, later on I even learned that they spoke the southern albanian dialect.....
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KRONOSELLAS 1 week ago
So I think you need really strong and good proof to convince people that all theese things that you write on the video is true if you consider that Macedonians were speaking Greek and Albanians are not called Illyrians and they speak a king of Slavic Latin and Turkic language. You need really strong proof to convince people that you are Illyrians Pelasgians etc.
Riccardo024 1 week ago
@Riccardo024 It's already proven that the Albanian language is the Illyrian language....it is the oldest one in the IE tree and it shows traces that are even older...we don't need to prove nothing to anyone because others have proved it for us.....
Bardh87 1 week ago
It is just happen theese people to live in the lands that were belonging to the Macedonian kingdom. As it is known from universal studies Greece, was divided in countries - states. Sparta, Athens, Aitolian and Achaean Confederation, Macedonia etc with common nationality the Greek and common language the Greek. As it is known the grandpa of Alexander came to the camp of Athineans to inform them that the Persians were starting the invasion to South Greece during the Greco Persian wars.
Riccardo024 1 week ago
Further more everything that it was writen about Macedonia and Macedonian kings and so on was writen in Greek or Latin languages. The modern people who live in FYROM they use as Macedonian names only Alexander and Philippus and the rest are of Slavic origin like in Bulgaria and in Serbia. Macedonians were not using only these two names. Further more Pyrrus was speaking Greek as well how can you explain this? It is proved that FYROM doesn't have to do a thing nationally with ancient Macedonians.
Riccardo024 1 week ago
One question. If Alexander and his family were not greek and were albanians then why they had names that were used in all of greece and they were speaking the greek language. We have never heard somewhere about macedonian language. After his death all the kingdoms were called hellenistic world. If Albanians were Illyrians then why are they called Sciptars and Albanians and why do they speak a mixture of slavic turkic and Albanian language?
Riccardo024 1 week ago
I think as well that the Macedonians were not ethnic Hellenes but a mixed group of Hellenized Thraco-Illyrians. However is a bit naive for Albanians to claim Alexander as their own for people have overlapped thru language and ethnicity for thousands of years.
blackarawak83 2 weeks ago
@blackarawak83 Alexander was 75% Illyrian by blood. He's conquest map doesn't show Illyria as conquered territory. Facts like Olympia and Eurydice being Illyrian are accepted and tought to others in colleges and universities in the US. In Romans texts they talk about a Kuvend-important meetings which are still called by the same word in Albania, the language is the oldest in the IE tree and even older. The Kanun Laws prove the authenticity of the race and no others have them in the region.
Bardh87 2 weeks ago
the ony decent response to this video: LOL!!
VangelisZl 2 weeks ago
CREAL NAME OF ALEKSANDAR WAS,,LESANDAR KARANOVICH,,
AND LES,ON RUSSIAN MEAN WOOD,ALEKSANDAR WAS NA NSERBIAN SLAVIC,AND TRUTH IS HE WAS ILLIRYAN!!!
BECAUSE ILLIRYANS WAS A SERBIAN TRIBE!!ALBANIANS COME IN XI CENTURY IN ANCIENT SERBIA,THEY COME FROM SICILIA!!!
Triognjen 2 weeks ago
albanians want alexander too?oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook....idiot are many
socrates6068 2 weeks ago
yes Alexander The Great are illirian and will illirian
333parta 3 weeks ago
Alexander The Great are ILLIRIAN
333parta 3 weeks ago
TRUE, ALEXANDER WAS MACEDONIAN...QUESTION:WHERE IS MACEDONIA????
1.SCANDINAVIA
2.GERMANY
3.FYROM...(ONE COUNTRY WITH SLAVS,ALBANIANS,BULGARIANS,GYPSIES,TURKISH,BITCHES,GAYS,WHATEVER...UGLY PEOPLE 4 SURE)
4.IN THE GLORIEST COUNTRY WHICH EVER SEE THIS WORLD...GREECE(HELLAS)...COUNTRY OF ARISTOTELES,SOKRATES,PERIKLES,LEONIDAS,ACHILLEAS,OMIROS,EL GRECO,KAZANTZAKIS,XATZIDAKIS,THEODORAKIS AND MANY MANY MANY PEOPLE...
CHOICE IS YOURS...TRUTH IS OURS...
NorthEPIRUS7 3 weeks ago
We let you come in our country,we gave you jobs,we gave you shelter when your country was suffering and that's how you repay us? Trying to steal our history? Well guess again,history can't be stolen.You and the Skopians feel so hopeless with having no past and history that try to convince the world that Greek history is actually yours.Get a life,find your roots,you have no connection to Alexander the Great
sidrialgr 3 weeks ago
@sidrialgr No one is trying to steal your history. If our argument would hold no water you do not have to worry! The world would laugh at what we have to say. But it is not that only we we are saying it. Albanian language was not written then, only latin and greek. Many of the documents come from the written latin language. As for jobs you give to immigrants you give what greeks don't want like in any country foreigners do the most difficult jobs for lesser pay.
1ngatirana 2 weeks ago
Oh great... now he's Illirian! Stop stealing peaples history you inbreed dumbshits!
steve81132 4 weeks ago
@steve81132 Genuinely, his mother was Molossian (Illyrian) from the royal house of Epirus. What do you think why Alexander didn't occupy Illyria but the half world till Persia? The question is very simple. His dad was Macedonian, but the problem with the today's Macedonians and Greeks is not our dilemma.
Pershendetje (Greetings)
AlbanianLeader4 3 weeks ago 2
@AlbanianLeader4 Phillip's mother was Eurydice, the daughter of Illyrian royalty Sirras....which makes Alexander 75% Illyrian.....just had to throw it in there incase you didn't know. Peace.
Bardh87 2 weeks ago
The title of this video suggests its stupidity.
MightyMetron 4 weeks ago
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Alexander the Great is GREEK of course,that is worldwide known . Who is saying the opposite is A MORON,IDIOT AND STUPID. He is a wannabe GREEK. Point and dash.-
gampcptn 1 month ago
@mkdonas Gayreeks descended from Jews and Niggers! before an Alvanoi you piss your pants gayreek
FuckGayrece 1 month ago
In the ancient Greek religion, Zeus ( /ˈzjuːs/ zews[3] zooss; Ancient Greek: Ζεύς; Modern Greek: Δίας, Dias) was the "Father of Gods and men" (πατὴρ ἀνδρῶν τε θεῶν τε)[4] who ruled the Olympians of Mount Olympus as a father ruled the family. He was the god of sky and thunder in Greek mythology.
christianotelo 1 month ago
Etymologically, the name is derived from the Greek "Αλέξανδρος" (Aléxandros), meaning "defending men" [1] or "protector of men", a compound of the verb "ἀλέξω" (alexō), "to ward off, to avert, to defend"[2] and the noun "ἀνδρός" (andros), genitive of "ἀνήρ" (anēr), "man".[3] It is an example of the widespread motif of Greek (or Indo-European more generally) names expressing "battle-prowess", in this case the ability to withstand or push back an enemy battle line.
christianotelo 1 month ago
@christianotelo /watch?v=E8YlAjpGChw enjoy gayreek
FuckGayrece 1 month ago
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These people(albanians) are generally and in all probability accurately identified as the result of the combination of the ancient Illyrians, Macedonians, and Epirotes, who were all the descendants of the more ancient Pelasgians.
Title:The American review of reviews, Volume 47,
Editor:Albert Shaw,
Publisher:Review of Reviews,1913.
TheAlbos90 1 month ago
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Xhorxh Fred Uiliams: "The Albanian language is the native language of Alexander the Great".
Marin Soresku(romanian scientist): "The Albanian language is a living testimony of the ancient european civilization ".
Man(british researchers):Albanian language derives from that of Japheth (son of Noah)".
August Scheicher: "The Albanian language is the old pelasgian language"
TheAlbos90 1 month ago
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Many races have come nd gone in Europe.Mighty hordes from the East swept over it at various times nd vanished in the course of history. But of the few originals inhabitants of Europe,the true Europeans,there still remain the Albanians,populating a mountainous section of Balkan Peninsula.The Albanians r the direct descendants of the Illyrians who lived in the south of europe since the down of history
Title:The resurrected nations(1919)
Author:Levine, Isaac Don
TheAlbos90 1 month ago
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TheAlbos90 1 month ago
This is the truth really I just saw a new documentary saying alexander the great had illyrian blood. Not whole illyrian but a part of illyria. FACT
thesoftish 1 month ago
@thesoftish He had pure Albanian blood! Both his mother Olympia and His father Philip the II were of albanian/illyrian origin, Olympia was a Molossian like Phirro i Epirit who were Illyrians, Philip the II both his wive and mother Eurodycie were Illyrian
FuckGayrece 1 month ago
@FuckGayrece Philip was the youngest son of the king Amyntas III and Eurydice I. In his youth, (c. 368–365 BC) Philip was held as a hostage in Thebes, which was the leading city of Greece during the Theban hegemony. While a captive there, Philip received a military and diplomatic education from Epaminondas, became eromenos of Pelopidas,[2][3] and lived with Pammenes, who was an enthusiastic advocate of the Sacred Band of Thebes...
christianotelo 1 month ago
@FuckGayrece Olympias (Greek: Ὀλυμπιάς, pronounced [olympiás], ca. 375–316 BC was a Greek princess of Epirus,daughter of king Neoptolemus I of Epirus, the fourth wife of the king of Macedonia,Philip II,and mother of Alexander the Great.She was a devout member of the orgiastic snake-worshiping cult of Dionysus,and it's suggested by the 1st century CE biographer! someone who doesn't believe your poor and fake arguments doesn't mean he is Greek...!
christianotelo 1 month ago
@christianotelo obviously you have a lot of time in your hands so Im not bothering reading your fucking essays. my time is too precious have fun with your trolling.
FuckGayrece 1 month ago
@FuckGayrece nice arguments...!!only by reading your name someone can jump into conclusion about your education level..
christianotelo 1 month ago
@christianotelo First you dont know dick about me second. Im very well educated and do know a shit load about history
FuckGayrece 1 month ago
@FuckGayrece there is no English expression such as " u don't know dick about me second..." and does do know a shit load means??? u are so " educated " ..i can see that from your level in English...! i won't reply to you by saying dick and words like this.. ! i am not contemptible like you..i bet you will use Google translation for this word..!!!!!!!
christianotelo 1 month ago
worst video ever...alexander was Greek..name me an albanian called alexander..oo wait alexander is agreek name so is phillipos...get a life!
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TheAlbos90 1 month ago
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@christianotelo Alexander name in albania is Leka today,that's why our coin is called "lek"
nd u know what alexander(aleksander) means in albanian language??? a(geg dialect)=is + le(geg dialect)=borned + ks(ksi geg dialect)=like + ander(geg dialect)=dream, so here it comes "is borned like in dream" the dream Omipia saw. In ancient macedonia is spooked geg dialcet,and today they still spoke the geg dialect
TheAlbos90 1 month ago
@christianotelo yes there are a lot of Albanians called aleksander. Aleksander Mojsiu famous albanian, Gjergj Kastriot Skenderbej, Turks gave him the title Bej in turkish Iskender "Leader Alexander" in honor of alexander the great. Philopos in albanian is Pirro so fuck you gay greek. Just because you can twist the names and translate them into your gay language doesnt make the people gayreek.
FuckGayrece 1 month ago
@FuckGayrece Alexander III of Macedon(20/21 July 356 – 10/11 June 323 BC), commonly known as Alexander the Great(Greek: Ἀλέξανδρος ὁ Μέγας, Aléxandros o Mégasi), was a Greek king of Macedon, a state in northern ancient Greece. Born in Pella in 356 BC, Alexander was tutored by Aristotle until the age of 16. By the age of thirty, he had created one of the largest empires of the ancient world, stretching from the Ionian Sea to the Himalayas. i want use words like f*** i am civilized!
christianotelo 1 month ago
ALL GREEK / HELLENIC ..
FYROMSKI 1 month ago
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FYROMSKI 1 month ago
hey just see something more... greeks used to have a god named zeus ( ζευσ ) which comes from the illyrian word ZOT-ZEYS...illyrian-pelasgian-arber-albania kings of balkan,europe,world !
George95al 1 month ago
Hes mother was maybe Illyrian but you cant claim that hes Illyrian because he fought for Greece not for Illyria and hes father was greek and he was raised Greek so please stop claiming that he was Illyrian / Albanian. I also really hate it when Serbs or Greek claim that Skenderbeu was from there ethnicity so stop this bullshit. Alexander the Great was Greek and Skenderbeu was Albanian end of story. And this is coming from an Albanian.
1337yalla 1 month ago
@1337yalla He's father wasn't Greek. Phillip II was Macedonian/Illryian (mother Eurydice, the daughter of Illyrian royalty Sirras)
Bardh87 1 month ago
@1337yalla Don't give up so easily to the Gayreeks and their fake history on youtube.
I took Classical Cultures courses in NYC and asked specific questions about Alexander the Great and got the answers from authorized PHD on the subject.
My Question: Was Alexander Greek?
Answer: He was a Greek King, but not Greek by blood/origin, he was Macedonian/Illyrian.
Also, are you aware that Alexander, Pirro and Skenderbeu all wore the goat nymph crown that raised/fed Zeus?
Bardh87 1 month ago
Albanians, try to make your own history if you don' t have it. It's better than to copy others, and of course less stupid.
YSFAKIANAKIS 1 month ago
This is what happens , when people heven't opened a book in their entire life........
HellenicMarine 2 months ago
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LESSON 1 Megas Alexandros was king of Macedon one of the states of Greece-Plutarch
LESSON2 ALEXANDROS IS HELLENE-Demosthenes
LESSON3 Macedonia of course is a part of Greece-Strabo
LESSON4 Megas Alexandros:
As Hellenes we should not be slaves to barbarians-Callisthenes
LESSON5 Megas Alexandros made Greece the most powerful & Glorious country in the world-Pliny the Elder
LESSON6 Macedonians spoke Greek-Titus Livius
LESSON7 For I Alexander myself am by ancient descent a Greek-(Herod. IX)
FYROMSKI 2 months ago
Macedon constantly fought Illyrians and kept them from invading Ellada.
How can Alexander be Illyrian if his mother was Epirote (Dorian Hellene) and his father Macedonian (Dorian Hellene and Thracian).
Grow a brain in vitro and put it in your heads.
shockolanu 2 months ago
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Why you block me, have you fear from me ??? Im not god , God is evryvere and he see evrithing and maybe all racisam from the peoples
.GOD SEE YOU
There will come a day, you'll have shade in front of your own anxiety and fear you very much
Viva la MAKEDONIA 4 all MAKEDONIANS but never 4 Greeks
Devoj4E 2 months ago