You guys are fucking stupid. I know the guys from the band. The lead singer marty's dad killed himself with a shotgun in front of him.... from drinking and doing drugs. When it says when someone slips a pill in your drink. First of all, they hate sexists. They are talking about all the fucking girls (and guys) who go out and get drunk and do drugs, then fuck people they dont know. They are all straight edge. Its basically if you drink and do drugs you deserve what happens to you. End of convo.
Who gives a shit. It's hardcore, you can say whatever the hell you want; straight edge or not. Can't handle it, then maybe you'd fit in better at Woodstock.
That line you posted clearly refers to a very sexually active girl, and this is in no way sexist. The only way this could be sexist if it was directed at every single girl. Not only that, but those lyrics could go for a dude too. Nothing about that would have to be changed to direct it to a guy. Agitator is full of the best, most straight up dudes who only preach making good decisions and personal experiences that NO ONE would have the balls to even bring up besides marty
A) Racism and sexism are in no way related to straight edge. So saying that the singer can write these lyrics because he can "hide" behind the other straight edge lyrics in just ridiculous.
B) Your example of a black singer writing racist lyrics, is a racist comment in itself. Why would it have to be a black guy writing racist lyrics? Probably because you're white an you assume that black people are the only victims of racism.
@icecreamtrepan you really think every singer should be personally responsible for every fan? i bet you think video games influence violence and marilyn manson caused columbine...and to compare these lyrics to calling a black dude the N is a real far fucking off comparison. on top of that you've pretty much disregarded every point i made so maybe you should just step away from the keyboard and actually do something about it...even though we both know its not in the realm of possibilities.
@icecreamtrepan "A man is saying this and I guarantee you that most of the men listenin to this shit at shows are applying this shit to women they know." oh wow so based off your ASSUMPTION its suddenly the singers responsibility to make sure every individual person interprets it correctly...get real dude. there's nothing sexist about this when its singling out just an individual. you should take more time to develop your own opinions on things instead of just jumping on a bandwagon.
@icecreamtrepan you think this song is about blaming rape survivors? clearly you need to brush up on your reading comprehension. its fairly obvious both those songs are about specific people, and not blanket statements about an entire gender. its also clear that this singer uses this band as a direct outlet for his personal hatred and disgust, without placing any type of gender barrier or censor on himself...so really, what more is relevant to "hardcore" than that?
Okay, look. I think this song is disturbingly sexist and victim-blaming. And it's upsetting to see people seriously defending it, but I don't know if I'd even call it defending it, since defending implies argumentation.
Help me out here, because I've asked this several times and gotten zero answers from any of the Agitator-supporters:
If
"You'll lose your ability to think
When someone slips a pill in your drink"
isn't blaming date rape victims for date rape, then what the fuck IS it saying?
@jasonuberalles Im a fan of this band and i do find this song to be a bit edgy to say the least but what there trying to get at is if you live this lifestyle your setting yourself up for this. It saying that this could of been avoided in this curcumstance. I do not believe they condone date rape. Still could of been worded a little better.
This is backed. He's obviously talking about someone specific, and not woman in general. I know plenty of woman that deserve and STD and have been working hard for years to get one.
The song is clearly meant to denounce promiscuous sex, not to degrade women.
MathaelTheDestroyer 3 months ago
@MathaelTheDestroyer ...but it clearly degrades them anyway.
Ebriatedvivisectomy 1 month ago
lol alot of chicks do this when theyre sober
gointodapunkrawkshow 3 months ago
i love how butthurt white knights get over the lyrics to this song
KMFCM 6 months ago
you reap what you sow.
you've took this farther than it shouldn't of been at all.
tylurmulan 7 months ago
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You're all fucking idiots
JoBice69 7 months ago
You guys are fucking stupid. I know the guys from the band. The lead singer marty's dad killed himself with a shotgun in front of him.... from drinking and doing drugs. When it says when someone slips a pill in your drink. First of all, they hate sexists. They are talking about all the fucking girls (and guys) who go out and get drunk and do drugs, then fuck people they dont know. They are all straight edge. Its basically if you drink and do drugs you deserve what happens to you. End of convo.
TheMetalFAN54 9 months ago
@xuseyourheadx
Who gives a shit. It's hardcore, you can say whatever the hell you want; straight edge or not. Can't handle it, then maybe you'd fit in better at Woodstock.
livingstranger 9 months ago
this song is sexist and poorly written. in general this kid is illiterate and make's straight edge look bad.
xuseyourheadx 10 months ago
@xuseyourheadx Yeah, and Biohazard's demo was filled with White Power crap, and everybody in hardcore loves them.
Necropedocoprophilia 6 months ago
@xuseyourheadx Calls someone else illiterate, uses the word "make's." Lol.
MathaelTheDestroyer 1 month ago
Sexist scum out of hardcore.
bjarczyk 10 months ago
This is absolute shit o.o
AmiexGLAMour 11 months ago
@AmiexGLAMour, your dreads suck
thesovereignbowie 11 months ago
That line you posted clearly refers to a very sexually active girl, and this is in no way sexist. The only way this could be sexist if it was directed at every single girl. Not only that, but those lyrics could go for a dude too. Nothing about that would have to be changed to direct it to a guy. Agitator is full of the best, most straight up dudes who only preach making good decisions and personal experiences that NO ONE would have the balls to even bring up besides marty
ShiggityShwam 11 months ago
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fuck the haters. agitator fucking rules
pissoffyo1 11 months ago 4
A) Racism and sexism are in no way related to straight edge. So saying that the singer can write these lyrics because he can "hide" behind the other straight edge lyrics in just ridiculous.
B) Your example of a black singer writing racist lyrics, is a racist comment in itself. Why would it have to be a black guy writing racist lyrics? Probably because you're white an you assume that black people are the only victims of racism.
C) You're wrong. About everything.
Sorry.
xDxOxUxGx 1 year ago
@icecreamtrepan you really think every singer should be personally responsible for every fan? i bet you think video games influence violence and marilyn manson caused columbine...and to compare these lyrics to calling a black dude the N is a real far fucking off comparison. on top of that you've pretty much disregarded every point i made so maybe you should just step away from the keyboard and actually do something about it...even though we both know its not in the realm of possibilities.
xpatvoytkox 1 year ago
@icecreamtrepan "A man is saying this and I guarantee you that most of the men listenin to this shit at shows are applying this shit to women they know." oh wow so based off your ASSUMPTION its suddenly the singers responsibility to make sure every individual person interprets it correctly...get real dude. there's nothing sexist about this when its singling out just an individual. you should take more time to develop your own opinions on things instead of just jumping on a bandwagon.
xpatvoytkox 1 year ago
@icecreamtrepan you think this song is about blaming rape survivors? clearly you need to brush up on your reading comprehension. its fairly obvious both those songs are about specific people, and not blanket statements about an entire gender. its also clear that this singer uses this band as a direct outlet for his personal hatred and disgust, without placing any type of gender barrier or censor on himself...so really, what more is relevant to "hardcore" than that?
xpatvoytkox 1 year ago
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xpatvoytkox 1 year ago
Okay, look. I think this song is disturbingly sexist and victim-blaming. And it's upsetting to see people seriously defending it, but I don't know if I'd even call it defending it, since defending implies argumentation.
Help me out here, because I've asked this several times and gotten zero answers from any of the Agitator-supporters:
If
"You'll lose your ability to think
When someone slips a pill in your drink"
isn't blaming date rape victims for date rape, then what the fuck IS it saying?
jasonuberalles 1 year ago
@jasonuberalles
"you'll lose..."
as in "you will"
its a statement that relies on implications, as it hasnt actually happened yet but can and might
in no way victim blaming
xpatvoytkox 1 year ago
@jasonuberalles Im a fan of this band and i do find this song to be a bit edgy to say the least but what there trying to get at is if you live this lifestyle your setting yourself up for this. It saying that this could of been avoided in this curcumstance. I do not believe they condone date rape. Still could of been worded a little better.
123edohc 10 months ago
This is about party sluts you retards.
I'm sure you'd get butthurt over their song Natural Selection.
It's about drunk drivers and not giving a fuck if they kill themselves, but you'd bitch and moan saying it's about anyone who drinks.
YOU are what's wrong with hardcore nowadays.
LuminescenceAR 1 year ago
this band is a bunch of fucking LOSERS
I hope you all get your asses beat for this, cause you fucking deserve it
zanezanezaneouvre 1 year ago
@zanezanezaneouvre you are what's wrong with hardcore.
xlotekbmx 1 year ago
This is backed. He's obviously talking about someone specific, and not woman in general. I know plenty of woman that deserve and STD and have been working hard for years to get one.
ogaffney 1 year ago
Blaming women for getting date raped and getting an STD from it is a new low. Whoever wrote these lyrics is human garbage, fuck this sexist noise
Windfall32 1 year ago
wow, this is the most sexist bullshit hardcore band i've heard in quite a while. This represents everything that is wrong with HC nowadays.
sxepunk336 1 year ago