The in fighting and politics within the 'modern day' take on ancient practices is laughable. Four elements, a sunrise and a sunset - what else do you need?
So long as you're discussing dogma you are ALL in the past. Drop the jargon, you may as well be arguing about the shopping.
No one is more authentic than he who silently walks his own path with invisible fox medicine.
I'm a christian, but I'm beginning to love wicca. Funny, the christians are what are driving me away. My "brothers and sisters". I feel pity. They are too blind to see that we all worship the same God. OH, and if you doubt a goddess, fellow christians, read Proverbs 8 all the way through and get your eyes opened. There is nothing new under the sun, it's just repackaged. So roll with it, and see beauty where God deems it to appear, which frankly, right now, is right here.
It is indeed rare for a Christian to say such of Wicca and Paganism overall, since most, like you stated, have a mind the size of a peanut. There are too few Christians like yourself nowadays - well spoken!
You do very well, people on here need to accept that you were very considerate in posting this up, I haven't seen them post it up, so they shouldn't complain, ALSO, if you ARE offended, no one said you had to listen to it. Wicca & Paganism are wonderful religions & are full of love, start showing some. Great job though, very wonderful :)
To Cainus 44 //why he destroy the Celtic religion? if it wanmt becouse of the Wiccans and Pagans ...they would have dissapear years ago ...they wake up to live a forgoten path
@Cainus44 Excuse me, sir, you have so little idea of what you speak of, and clearly have not ever practiced Wicca or the Celtic Way, and I'll wager that you've NEVER been to an open-circle. Wicca by NO means "destroyed" the Celtic religions - that happened because of christian fanatics who demonized it into near oblivion. Seriously, are so closed-minded that it makes me sick, and I think I speak for everyone here on that part. So please, quit the attitude and do some honest research for once!!!
@Cainus44 Wicca is NOT a Celtic religion. It takes its elements from many-many sources and cultures, thus, of course, it won't be a perfect reconstruction of Celtic traditions. It's still much better to respect something ancient and try to keep it at least a little alive than to totally forget and ignore about something so beautiful.
Why don't you turn your hatred towards those who judge the Celts as barbarian heathens, rather than towards who at least honour it?
@kalacs32 Wicca's a load of shit derived from old Celtic religions by a creepy old Englishman who was also a self-proclaimed witch. Wicca is not respectful, it's a fecking insult. It's not keeping anything alive, it's a bunch of fat teenage girls dressing in goth pretending to worship two gods that are blatant insults to Cernunnos and Brigit.
Don't act like it's anything more than an insult, you fecking poser.
@Cainus44 It's your own opinion. Nothing to do with facts or the truth, so it doesn't even work as an argument or response. Goth has nothing to do with Wicca, if you look into it very deeply, they may even be ambivalent with the unnatural clothing fabrics, trying to be correlated to nature-respect.
AGAIN, Wicca feeds from MANY CULTURES, Brigid is even quite far from being the most common patron-goddess in wicca.
@kalacs32 It is not my opinion. It is fact. Wicca is an insult to the Celtic traditions of my forefathers. It is a bullshit religion, invented by a creepy old Englishman in the 1950s. It takes ONLY from Celtic and Germanic religion, and somehow manages to spit on both. You're a deluded little whiner if you think otherwise.
I'm also willing to bet you had no clue who Brigid was before I mentioned her, and probably still don't comprehend it.
@Cainus44 It IS your opinion. You have no right to tell what sources it takes from, and it's more free than to limit what cultures elements can be taken from. Which is a fact, and the fact you deny it just proves you don't give a good shit about logic, you will say absolutely anything that is negative towards Wicca. You also have no clue whether I knew about Brigid or not. Byebye
@Cainus44 "It is fact." Lol. You're not the only Celtic. I approve of wicca, you're the minority as, most people just do not care. So hold oooooooooooon to your traditions. Wicca is the fastest growing religion in America. Good luck with your one man army approach. As you say, "numbnuts".
@kalacs32 What pisses me off the most about wicca are the cac cinnirí such as yourself who actually try to take it seriously, and defend its legitimacy as a religion. Your bullshit is disrespectful to 3000 years of culture which you refuse to have any understanding of, but what do you care as long as it makes you feel special?
Fuck you, fuck wicca, fuck people like you, and fuck your blatant insults to a proud culture. I'd rather see it die that shat on by the likes of you.
@Cainus44 The way you talk and proud culture...quite ambivalent...lol, how shameful, how disrespectful. Hah, dare YOU even talk about culture. As I see you're not capable of providing anything else than your vulgar and unfounded opinion, it's bye-bye.
@Cainus44 Not just Lugh but the Morrigan, the triple goddess of war and protection, the phantom queen, seeker of souls, taker of heads, ancient crone of war, the War Crow. Wiccans are all about being fluffy and nice, but life is bloody, tough and hard.
The Morrigan represents the old way of the warrior more than Wiccans in their robes and with their fancy altars.
Wicca is Wicca, nothing wrong with them if they don't pretend to be the old Celtic way, which was dark and wild and not nice..
@Cainus44 Sorry to disappoint you, but Wicca is in fact a legit religion. You do not speak of 3000 years of culture - you speak of your own reckless hatred. You give a VERY bad name to my ancestors and myself. You are definitely NOT a Celt at heart; you're probably just a POed teen or 10 year-old spoiled beyond belief, with nothing better to do than to argue with others and spread hatred. Your "facts" are not facts at all. To you, facts conform to your mental set and belief perseverance.
@Cainus44 Sorry to disappoint you, but Wicca is in fact a legit religion. You do not speak of 3000 years of culture - you speak of your own reckless hatred. You give a VERY bad name to my ancestors and myself. You are definitely NOT a Celt at heart; you're probably just a teen or 10 year-old spoiled beyond belief, with nothing better to do than to argue with others and spread hatred. Your "facts" are not facts at all. To you, facts conform to your mental set and belief perseverance.
Pagan is NOT equal with Celtic. You may think whatever you want about what Wiccans evoke about Celtic trads, but that has nothing to do with whether Wiccans can be defined as Pagans or not. Paganism is a HUGE collective term.
@kalacs32 I don't particularly care if anyone thinks my ancestors were barbarian heathens. I care a lot more about the cac cinnirí who think they were a bunch of pussy nature worshippers who were in tune with "the goddess and mother earth" and all that shit. My ancestors were brutal bastards who worshipped Lugh Lamheada, the sun and war god.
And in what part of any statement that I made have I said that paganism refers solely to the Celtic pantheon? Don't put words in my mouth, cac cinnirí
@Cainus44 I never stated that you said that paganism refers solely to the Celtic pantheon. Don't put words in my mouth either. I said you can have an opinion about how Wicca relates to Celtic traditions, but Paganism is still a collective term that Wicca belongs to. "You're pretenders, not pagans." has no authenticity or truth in it, whatever your opinion.
@kalacs32 "Pagan is NOT equal with Celtic". You implied I said that. Paganism refers solely to European, non-Christian religions that existed during and prior to the Baltic Crusades when the last true pagan nation, Lithuania, converted to Christianity. Wicca is not pagan.
You cannot argue with historical fact here, numbnuts.
Your intonation is off dude. Your just reading the invocation. You must make it come fromwithin. You will not meet Kernunnos, the Greenman, lest you learn to speak to him. Its not the pretty words, its the way the words are read. The words arent magic, the person using them is the magic element. Rewrite it for yourself, so that its comfortable, really feel the mantra, and do as it says, by firelight, crescent moon, forest glade, and burn his pine needles, call the corners, and wind, and go
@TheDimensionalwalker I'm not wiccan nor do I worship the horned god. And from what I know, which is quite a lot, Kernunnos and The Greenman are two different entities unless you're soft polytheistic. And No I will not re-write it, that seems a little idiotic to me. I put it up so that it would be on youtube because I havent seen it on here.
@TheDimensionalwalker First of all, are you Kernunnos? Are you the Greenman? Then who are you to tell someone their intonation is off. Last I checked, how you experienced the divine was through what practice worked for you. avalonaviir posted this as something to share, not really as a ritual piece. Also what kind of pagan does that make you if you sit on your high horse and call other people "pretenders". What next, gonna round them up and burn them? Are you the next pagan Pope or soemthing?
@Obagaar No, I was making a bit of a joke outta the fact that Pope is a Christian thing that Pagans have never inflicted on themselves, but you said "next" as if there had been a first. Sorry if it wasn't clear in typing ;D
@TheDimensionalwalker I'm tacking the comment I left on your page because I am quite sure that after you read it you'll delete it so this is in response to the comment you left on my channel. I'm sorry I just noticed your comment on my channel so I thought I would respond. How dare you say that I don't even practice witchcraft, I believe that I said that Cernunnos is commonplace in Wicca. As I said I am not wiccan and do not even work with him. -
-As I said in another comment I had not found the invocation on this website so I decided to fuck share it. And as I said its wiccan not druidic, it was written by Lady Sheba. Hell you can go by the book its written in for $14.96 on Amazon. Dude I know my shit and obviously you know about as much as an amoeba.
You stutter, it has to be fluid like a stream of water this is just pathetic while beeing illiterate you could at least got it to your inferior brain to rehears it.
It's insulting because it's spoken by a naive random and retarded kid and because i am a horned god, well at least you got your way kid.
@Space0wl Before you call anyone else illiterate, you might want to learn how to spell first, or do you mean he is like a bee, buzzing around stinging illiterates? It is always amazing to me that the most inept of the human race are always the first to point out what is wrong with everyone else.
"Great is the Lord and most worthy of praise; he is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are idols, but the Lord made the heavens. Splendor and majesty are before Him; strength and glory are in his sanctuary." Psalms 96:4-6
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. " Romans 10:9
Why did you post this, do you think this will sway me to christianity? This is a wiccan invocation, I am not wiccan I just believed that it should be put up here and if you dont like that you can go fuck yourself with a butchers' knife.
@avalonaviir you should be mor consiterit. thay are finding tharer way in life gust like you and me ar finding a way in wiccan or pagan and we should incorige him to do so. the best thing to have is fath.
I really could care less with what you just posted, not to be a bitch, which being a bitch is what I do best, But he came to my video spewing his bible verses he deserves my bitchyness.
your chanting is alot like mine lol, actually, ur alot better, i can never make it to the end of a line without stopping and stunting, anyway well done and a big blessed be to you :)
so mote it be
marlowefive 1 month ago
The in fighting and politics within the 'modern day' take on ancient practices is laughable. Four elements, a sunrise and a sunset - what else do you need?
So long as you're discussing dogma you are ALL in the past. Drop the jargon, you may as well be arguing about the shopping.
No one is more authentic than he who silently walks his own path with invisible fox medicine.
robderc 5 months ago
I'm a christian, but I'm beginning to love wicca. Funny, the christians are what are driving me away. My "brothers and sisters". I feel pity. They are too blind to see that we all worship the same God. OH, and if you doubt a goddess, fellow christians, read Proverbs 8 all the way through and get your eyes opened. There is nothing new under the sun, it's just repackaged. So roll with it, and see beauty where God deems it to appear, which frankly, right now, is right here.
TheKatkatir 6 months ago 2
@TheKatkatir Very kind words! :)
It is indeed rare for a Christian to say such of Wicca and Paganism overall, since most, like you stated, have a mind the size of a peanut. There are too few Christians like yourself nowadays - well spoken!
Blessed be times Three! )O( )O( )O(
- Bréinann
celticbattleaxe 5 months ago
its hard to read out loud he did well leave him be
MegaCatlady66 6 months ago
You do very well, people on here need to accept that you were very considerate in posting this up, I haven't seen them post it up, so they shouldn't complain, ALSO, if you ARE offended, no one said you had to listen to it. Wicca & Paganism are wonderful religions & are full of love, start showing some. Great job though, very wonderful :)
XxRaveEcstacyxX 1 year ago
To Cainus 44 //why he destroy the Celtic religion? if it wanmt becouse of the Wiccans and Pagans ...they would have dissapear years ago ...they wake up to live a forgoten path
escorpioni13 1 year ago
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Fuck all you fucking Wiccans. You destroyed the Celtic religion with your idiocy, and spat on its corpse. You're pretenders, not pagans.
Cainus44 1 year ago
@Cainus44 If this is directed at me you sir are an idiot, if it isn't I agree with you whole heartedly.
avalonaviir 1 year ago
@avalonaviir It's not like you seem to know a whole lot about how it went, either.
Cainus44 1 year ago
@Cainus44 What do you mean by that?
avalonaviir 1 year ago
@Cainus44 Excuse me, sir, you have so little idea of what you speak of, and clearly have not ever practiced Wicca or the Celtic Way, and I'll wager that you've NEVER been to an open-circle. Wicca by NO means "destroyed" the Celtic religions - that happened because of christian fanatics who demonized it into near oblivion. Seriously, are so closed-minded that it makes me sick, and I think I speak for everyone here on that part. So please, quit the attitude and do some honest research for once!!!
celticbattleaxe 5 months ago
@Cainus44 Wicca is NOT a Celtic religion. It takes its elements from many-many sources and cultures, thus, of course, it won't be a perfect reconstruction of Celtic traditions. It's still much better to respect something ancient and try to keep it at least a little alive than to totally forget and ignore about something so beautiful.
Why don't you turn your hatred towards those who judge the Celts as barbarian heathens, rather than towards who at least honour it?
kalacs32 1 year ago
@kalacs32 Wicca's a load of shit derived from old Celtic religions by a creepy old Englishman who was also a self-proclaimed witch. Wicca is not respectful, it's a fecking insult. It's not keeping anything alive, it's a bunch of fat teenage girls dressing in goth pretending to worship two gods that are blatant insults to Cernunnos and Brigit.
Don't act like it's anything more than an insult, you fecking poser.
Cainus44 1 year ago
@Cainus44 It's your own opinion. Nothing to do with facts or the truth, so it doesn't even work as an argument or response. Goth has nothing to do with Wicca, if you look into it very deeply, they may even be ambivalent with the unnatural clothing fabrics, trying to be correlated to nature-respect.
AGAIN, Wicca feeds from MANY CULTURES, Brigid is even quite far from being the most common patron-goddess in wicca.
kalacs32 1 year ago
@kalacs32 It is not my opinion. It is fact. Wicca is an insult to the Celtic traditions of my forefathers. It is a bullshit religion, invented by a creepy old Englishman in the 1950s. It takes ONLY from Celtic and Germanic religion, and somehow manages to spit on both. You're a deluded little whiner if you think otherwise.
I'm also willing to bet you had no clue who Brigid was before I mentioned her, and probably still don't comprehend it.
Cainus44 1 year ago
@Cainus44 It IS your opinion. You have no right to tell what sources it takes from, and it's more free than to limit what cultures elements can be taken from. Which is a fact, and the fact you deny it just proves you don't give a good shit about logic, you will say absolutely anything that is negative towards Wicca. You also have no clue whether I knew about Brigid or not. Byebye
kalacs32 1 year ago
@Cainus44 "It is fact." Lol. You're not the only Celtic. I approve of wicca, you're the minority as, most people just do not care. So hold oooooooooooon to your traditions. Wicca is the fastest growing religion in America. Good luck with your one man army approach. As you say, "numbnuts".
TheKatkatir 6 months ago
@kalacs32 What pisses me off the most about wicca are the cac cinnirí such as yourself who actually try to take it seriously, and defend its legitimacy as a religion. Your bullshit is disrespectful to 3000 years of culture which you refuse to have any understanding of, but what do you care as long as it makes you feel special?
Fuck you, fuck wicca, fuck people like you, and fuck your blatant insults to a proud culture. I'd rather see it die that shat on by the likes of you.
Cainus44 1 year ago
@Cainus44 The way you talk and proud culture...quite ambivalent...lol, how shameful, how disrespectful. Hah, dare YOU even talk about culture. As I see you're not capable of providing anything else than your vulgar and unfounded opinion, it's bye-bye.
kalacs32 1 year ago
@Cainus44 Not just Lugh but the Morrigan, the triple goddess of war and protection, the phantom queen, seeker of souls, taker of heads, ancient crone of war, the War Crow. Wiccans are all about being fluffy and nice, but life is bloody, tough and hard.
The Morrigan represents the old way of the warrior more than Wiccans in their robes and with their fancy altars.
Wicca is Wicca, nothing wrong with them if they don't pretend to be the old Celtic way, which was dark and wild and not nice..
bartyfarslar 11 months ago
@Cainus44 Sorry to disappoint you, but Wicca is in fact a legit religion. You do not speak of 3000 years of culture - you speak of your own reckless hatred. You give a VERY bad name to my ancestors and myself. You are definitely NOT a Celt at heart; you're probably just a POed teen or 10 year-old spoiled beyond belief, with nothing better to do than to argue with others and spread hatred. Your "facts" are not facts at all. To you, facts conform to your mental set and belief perseverance.
celticbattleaxe 5 months ago
@Cainus44 Sorry to disappoint you, but Wicca is in fact a legit religion. You do not speak of 3000 years of culture - you speak of your own reckless hatred. You give a VERY bad name to my ancestors and myself. You are definitely NOT a Celt at heart; you're probably just a teen or 10 year-old spoiled beyond belief, with nothing better to do than to argue with others and spread hatred. Your "facts" are not facts at all. To you, facts conform to your mental set and belief perseverance.
celticbattleaxe 5 months ago
@Cainus44 Also, to your last statement:
Pagan is NOT equal with Celtic. You may think whatever you want about what Wiccans evoke about Celtic trads, but that has nothing to do with whether Wiccans can be defined as Pagans or not. Paganism is a HUGE collective term.
kalacs32 1 year ago
@kalacs32 I don't particularly care if anyone thinks my ancestors were barbarian heathens. I care a lot more about the cac cinnirí who think they were a bunch of pussy nature worshippers who were in tune with "the goddess and mother earth" and all that shit. My ancestors were brutal bastards who worshipped Lugh Lamheada, the sun and war god.
And in what part of any statement that I made have I said that paganism refers solely to the Celtic pantheon? Don't put words in my mouth, cac cinnirí
Cainus44 1 year ago
@Cainus44 I never stated that you said that paganism refers solely to the Celtic pantheon. Don't put words in my mouth either. I said you can have an opinion about how Wicca relates to Celtic traditions, but Paganism is still a collective term that Wicca belongs to. "You're pretenders, not pagans." has no authenticity or truth in it, whatever your opinion.
kalacs32 1 year ago
@kalacs32 "Pagan is NOT equal with Celtic". You implied I said that. Paganism refers solely to European, non-Christian religions that existed during and prior to the Baltic Crusades when the last true pagan nation, Lithuania, converted to Christianity. Wicca is not pagan.
You cannot argue with historical fact here, numbnuts.
Cainus44 1 year ago
@Cainus44 Wicca was a branch from a Pagan path POPULRISED by Gerald Gardener, but older than him. You bring disgrace to Pagan people you filth.
666BrotherofMetal 5 months ago
beautiful video. indeed so braveof you to share i thank you.
Blessed Be.......
MsSamara13 1 year ago
Beautiful, though you stuttered a bit.
oh well, no one is perfect, but thank you for sharing this.
Happy Solstice!
SamFortuna 1 year ago
Your intonation is off dude. Your just reading the invocation. You must make it come fromwithin. You will not meet Kernunnos, the Greenman, lest you learn to speak to him. Its not the pretty words, its the way the words are read. The words arent magic, the person using them is the magic element. Rewrite it for yourself, so that its comfortable, really feel the mantra, and do as it says, by firelight, crescent moon, forest glade, and burn his pine needles, call the corners, and wind, and go
TheDimensionalwalker 1 year ago
@TheDimensionalwalker I'm not wiccan nor do I worship the horned god. And from what I know, which is quite a lot, Kernunnos and The Greenman are two different entities unless you're soft polytheistic. And No I will not re-write it, that seems a little idiotic to me. I put it up so that it would be on youtube because I havent seen it on here.
avalonaviir 1 year ago
@TheDimensionalwalker First of all, are you Kernunnos? Are you the Greenman? Then who are you to tell someone their intonation is off. Last I checked, how you experienced the divine was through what practice worked for you. avalonaviir posted this as something to share, not really as a ritual piece. Also what kind of pagan does that make you if you sit on your high horse and call other people "pretenders". What next, gonna round them up and burn them? Are you the next pagan Pope or soemthing?
Obagaar 1 year ago
@Obagaar Thank you hun.
avalonaviir 1 year ago
@Obagaar You say next Pagan Pope, and I had to ask, has there been one already? :D
claoufaeng 1 year ago
@claoufaeng You seem pretty intent on being the first one.
Obagaar 1 year ago
@Obagaar No, I was making a bit of a joke outta the fact that Pope is a Christian thing that Pagans have never inflicted on themselves, but you said "next" as if there had been a first. Sorry if it wasn't clear in typing ;D
claoufaeng 1 year ago
@TheDimensionalwalker I'm tacking the comment I left on your page because I am quite sure that after you read it you'll delete it so this is in response to the comment you left on my channel. I'm sorry I just noticed your comment on my channel so I thought I would respond. How dare you say that I don't even practice witchcraft, I believe that I said that Cernunnos is commonplace in Wicca. As I said I am not wiccan and do not even work with him. -
avalonaviir 1 year ago
-As I said in another comment I had not found the invocation on this website so I decided to fuck share it. And as I said its wiccan not druidic, it was written by Lady Sheba. Hell you can go by the book its written in for $14.96 on Amazon. Dude I know my shit and obviously you know about as much as an amoeba.
avalonaviir 1 year ago
Only a few minor slip ups, but overall nice to listen to. You have a pleasant speaking voice.
Merytsetesh 1 year ago
@brianogog what r u talkin about horn and hand of peace wtf explain
liljoeythepimp515 1 year ago
@brianogog What the fuck?
avalonaviir 1 year ago
i think its wonderful great job kid
firewolf222 1 year ago
badly spoken, this is insulting to me.
Space0wl 2 years ago
How is it badly spoken and insulting to you?
avalonaviir 2 years ago
You stutter, it has to be fluid like a stream of water this is just pathetic while beeing illiterate you could at least got it to your inferior brain to rehears it.
It's insulting because it's spoken by a naive random and retarded kid and because i am a horned god, well at least you got your way kid.
Space0wl 2 years ago
Wow, you sound like a fluffy and your insults are like that of a child now go insert a butchers knife into your anus.
avalonaviir 1 year ago
@Space0wl Before you call anyone else illiterate, you might want to learn how to spell first, or do you mean he is like a bee, buzzing around stinging illiterates? It is always amazing to me that the most inept of the human race are always the first to point out what is wrong with everyone else.
ashlar1965 1 year ago
I am saddened to see so much hatred, in the comments left by others. when this person is just expressing himself.
Personally, I think this is a beautiful video.
Thank u for sharing it! You should delete the hate comments, and block the users. Don't even put up with it. Their words are poison.
Effervescenceify 2 years ago 10
Actually I am not expressing myself I was just putting up a wiccan invocation, I am not wiccan.
Im quite fine with the comments of hate, they make me giggle.
avalonaviir 1 year ago
@avalonaviir thank you for putting this invocation on here. considering you are not even wiccan, even more considerate of you.
ashlar1965 1 year ago
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Here's a prayer for ya:
"Great is the Lord and most worthy of praise; he is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are idols, but the Lord made the heavens. Splendor and majesty are before Him; strength and glory are in his sanctuary." Psalms 96:4-6
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. " Romans 10:9
SophiaVonHelgastein 2 years ago
Why did you post this, do you think this will sway me to christianity? This is a wiccan invocation, I am not wiccan I just believed that it should be put up here and if you dont like that you can go fuck yourself with a butchers' knife.
avalonaviir 2 years ago
@avalonaviir you should be mor consiterit. thay are finding tharer way in life gust like you and me ar finding a way in wiccan or pagan and we should incorige him to do so. the best thing to have is fath.
wolfpath50 1 year ago
I really could care less with what you just posted, not to be a bitch, which being a bitch is what I do best, But he came to my video spewing his bible verses he deserves my bitchyness.
avalonaviir 1 year ago
is the horned god the one they call the lord cause i know he has antlers
premonition101 2 years ago
Yes he is called the Lord in wicca.
avalonaviir 2 years ago
Ur better than me.
Blessed Be
wetarded90 2 years ago
your chanting is alot like mine lol, actually, ur alot better, i can never make it to the end of a line without stopping and stunting, anyway well done and a big blessed be to you :)
ooohboo 2 years ago
Thank you
avalonaviir 2 years ago
beautiful..i love it 5 star vid :-)
I'm partial to the horned god.
punkassrocky666 3 years ago
IO PAN
Commiton 3 years ago 2