Opiate Withdrawal Part 5 Day 19 Getting off Painkillers

[ggjaxon]

Going to work is the jarfest part..- do massage...i resent it on days like this

[klownman79]

hey man congrats on quiting that damn habbit . Ib have alot off questions for u , ib been takin them for three maybe fourtu years im 29 and im ready to stop. Please email me @ klownman79@yahoo.com.

[dolphyd2000]

actually moved to cali do get away..started smoking 8o's and like averyone went to 30's....went to dones and took a few dones with me on the plane and its been 9days and by tommorrow it will be done....

[89Chriser]

u should use opiates to get off opiates in my eyes to ween off but shit cold turkey man ur gnarly i know i couldnt

[jbballa092881]

I was on "no exaggeration " like 10-15 80 mg Oxy's a day for like 4 years. I then switched to methadone and was up too 240 mg a day. Biggest mistake ever!! I weaned myself down just buying it off the streets. I went a month cold turkey and felt like hell. I relapsed. I know so stupid. Was doing around 10 perc 30's a day. I recently, 4 days ago quit cold turkey once again and surprisingly nothing. No withdrawals. No depression no leg cramps. It can be done.

[89Chriser]

@jbballa092881 so crazy cuz i went through the same shit like around 10 80 mg oc's a day n like 20-30 vics a day. n i got on methadone was stuck on that for a couple years n got off n i relapsed this time slamin herion almost 2 grams a day so i got back on methadone but i dont even feel sick at all no cravings im only on 40 mgs n i feel as if i can miss a day but i also smoke weed n i think that helps to. but cheers to u man hope u stay clean :)

[celticdruid3]

I think my doctor was setting me up for another withdrawal off Suboxone I was wondering wth the Clonodine was for?

[kamran1]

I am on day 7 today I went cold turkey from shooting up 10 80's a day. I feel you bro this is good support. I still have a little bit of withdrawl but i smoked a joint and it feels like their over but this morning I was dead tired. I slept 6 hours in 7 days hopefully i sleep tonight. About the chlonodine its a blood thinner it helps get rid of the cold sweats u only need it if you have cold sweats if your weening down don't bother with it, will just upset your stomach.

[seancore64]

if he was off he would not be making these vid's no way in hell he would even want to get off the bed or floor m i was there and it is the worst ever , he keeps getting substitute for withdrawals meds

[ginaven1]

Suboxone is not classed as an opiate,therefore Dr's keep out of trouble with the DEA. You are right you are trading one narcotic for the other,and would never get well.

[DOYLERULES69X]

The point of suboxone is to ween off slowly. If you do it the right way you go through almost no withdrawal.

[Hatchetman6971]

I just went through 6 straight days of no Methadone because I gave them away to others who had none. These people have no pain problem, just hooked. Well it left me one week short. I have a crushed spine so I have been prescribed these for ten years. I was in such agony with extreme myoclonus jerks that I slipped a disc in my neck. Hell week it was. Dispair, anxiety, chest pains, restless legs, arms. No energy at all. DON'T GIVE YOURS MEDS AWAY. I learned the hard way.

[drewcullen]

The only reason to take suboxone, methadone or subutex is to get your life back in control cold turkeys the best. I'm coming off methadone after 10 years AND IT FUCKING HURTS.

[stevens2224]

i hate wen ppl critize all pill poppers for not bein able to kick the habit like its nothin im not even truly hooked on any paricular type of drug but doin anything too much will make u shitty but every time i try nd get clean to many thots about all the great times i had high off of hard drugs excpiecally with the availability of incredibly cheap substances that can get u destroyed off a like kloonpins nd amphetamines.. just thot id throw that out there that withdrwls are more than physical

[catherineg1963]

clonidine is VERY helpful for de-tox symptoms like racing heart, high BP. PLEASE seriously consider using it. De-tox is highly stressful to your body.

[SSJkiller]

The human brain is a sadistic piece of shit to make us go through something like this. Evolution has failed us.

[Yawrrr]

ive been hooked for a yr, took my last hydro 10 yesterday.. im feelin the chills and my legs ache, my knees hurt like hell, im having cravings... ive tried to quit so many times. i developed a personality being pilled out - friendly hyper talkative.. i had no pain while standing long hours at work, i could work early n not be tired. thats why im afraid of quiting,... but you gave me the inspiration that it will be worth it! i hate always bein broke / searching for pills. ):

[sepultura7771]

Sweetwitch66 , I feel ya, I cry over every country song on the radio, I fuckin hate withdrawal, 7 months clean last year, then thought I could do it once on a while, yeah fuckin right, watch out for P.a.w.s. , shit will make u relapse, read about it, it's the only way for longterm sobriety

[SweetWitch66]

I wanted to know if anyone in here get emotional?, I cry and get really clingy, i feel like im dying and I start thinking about bad stuff, thats one of the reasons i get so scared to go thru the whidraws, is this normal?..I have to do this before the 24th of January. I started on the damn blues after i fell a flight of concrete stairs, Im so scared but i need to get off for my kids, my husband passed away and im all my kids have left, this is so hard, HELP intellectualbrat@aol.com

[kkjhhkjhkj]

I thought you started out cold turkey? Did you decide to try a different route? It doesn't really work like that. The thing about hard drugs like this is they stimulate the pleasure center of your brain, so trying to tapper down increases the chances you will fail almost to 100%. The only way to really get off them is to do it cold turkey or just use maintenance drugs like Suboxone or Methadone. If you would just go through with it, it would be the easiest, quickest, and healthiest.

[firebirdzzz111]

Thanks man you are a huge inspration for me i am in day 2 of withdrawl oxys, percs morphine and as you know its hell i have been batteling this for years i need rehab but have no cash so its cold turkey the scary thing is last week i got up to 4 days clean and one day i ran into someone that i knew and sure as day he pulled out his percs here man he says looks like you could use some of these as much as i didnt want to take them but the monkey on my fucking back started to claw at me this time.

[ClemsonC17]

Im 20 days clean today. Tried to come off 60 mg of methadone cold turkey in Feb. Not the best idea ive ever had, but it was a start. I made it 13 days and didnt sleep 1 hr. Suboxone was a miracle drug for me. I was able to taper down and it did not make me high or anything, just felt slightly less than normal. It took awhile to get off suboxone, finally weened off and im 20 days off and feel normal again. Don't down suboxone too much, i think it may be for heavier opiate users.Had a 5 yr habbit.

[jupitercrash077]

I pray you're doing better. I'm tapering off a benzo and I've gone through the withdrawals so I know the feeling.

[krashmine]

my storys abit diffent i was 14 when my dad started, and for my 15 birthday he gave me a tab (10) never felt that good in my life, year later my dad was taking 20 a day just to get going and i was taking 10. The key for me was methadone a 2 day stright high and it kinda helps the tabs withdrawl and then 3rd day you will still feel like total death but as the week goes on it slowly gets better.

[RipTheJacker0]

Kidjr27 is right. Benzo withdrawal (especially severe-heavy doses, long time) can give you seizures. Seizures can fucking kill your ass. Benzos are nothing to fuck with. You can physically kick opiates in a month, benzos can take YEARS.

[RipTheJacker0]

I took clonidine on day 2 of withdrawal from oxy/sub/benzos was seriously considering suicide... Didnt take it again for a week when I took.05 to sleep. Worked great but I woke up after three hours covered in sweat, sheets dripping. That shit helps a lot of people, I'm scared as fuck of it. Gotta check your blood pressure too.

[39tommyboy]

@RipTheJacker0 it may have just been the night sweats. its common amongst us detoxers to wake up sweating like a bitch. the waking up part is the hardest i think. then you realize oh hell i have no meds and im sick and these nerves are still waking up in my legs. ouch. but after the sixth day it starts tapering off then its the cravings then that gets to ya. good luck man write if i can help ya. godbless.

[clevelandman2010]

I am in my 4th day coming off vicodins ' it was a bitch but i quit cold turkey. I know my woman made me sleep on the couch during this' she said i was kicking the dog shit out of her' didn't know ofcourse.

[39tommyboy]

@clevelandman2010 the third day cold turkey is what they call peak time of your detox it should start getting better. get some gatorade and drink all you can it helps . plus some mulit vitamens. remember your body is changing again. and you are low on all that shit. good luck.

[39tommyboy]

whats weird about drug detox is when detoxing from a drug you are addicted to say for instance oxycontin. then even using fentanyl patches for the detox in which is stronger by 80 times you will still be sicker than a dog. its because you are not addicted to that drug. drug detox is so freaking weird. the best way to detox is give somebody youre meds and cut back little by little untill you are down to a small dosage and then quit. most people wont though untill they run out . good luck.

[XxMaLcLmPwNsxX]

@39tommyboy nah man, when you get right into it, ANY opiate will help you when your sick, even codiene for heroin addicts

[anphelps27]

@39tommyboy No shit. That is how we get addicted. It is an accumulation. (forgive the spelling) So when people come off the shit they are addicted to, it is better to come down slowly. Just my opinin

[39tommyboy]

@anphelps27 i thought that is what i said isnt it?? but my point was to as you may know its hell to trust yourself during dropping the dosage and coming off slowly. because i for a fact always said what the hell take another and sleep one dang night. lol take care and godbless.

[anphelps27]

@39tommyboy For sure dude. I never in a million yrs thought I would be addicted to anything. When I was younger I broke my hip and shattered my pelvis. While I was in the helicopter I demanded that I have no pain killers. Irionic that only 8 yrs later I found myself addicted to them thinking the same thing. One more wont hurt. One more is always too much.

[ExNihiloJimmy]

@39tommyboy I am currently using 25mcg fentanyl patches for my wirhdrawal from oxycontin. i will start tapering off the patches next week; anyone know about doing this. it is helping, or lessening the symptpms, but i still feel extremely ill and heart is pounding

[laudiumWP]

Using suboxone is not substitution of drugs. Most people who try without medication and treatment WILL relapse. Opioid addiction has the higher relapse rate over ANY KNOWN drugs.

But hey if you can, good luck. Im a heroin addict, painkillers don't even belong in the same category. I know what your going through man. Just try and see what works.

This is an old video, but honesetl

[rdbn25]

I'm sorry for saying, but what the hell is your reason for not getting the clonidine filled? I'm sorry, but that's the most ridiculous things I havee ever heard. Are u all there?

[trottintrev]

Dude you have to be joking! 19 days and your still going through it. Maybe you should do what i did...go to jail! you have methadone and suboxone just think about what its like to do it cold turkey. YOuve got a lot to learn buddy. I did it and im still going through it but its a mind control thing. Plus it depends on how many years you took them. Stop crying and just do it!

[itzmurda81]

@trottintrev

your name should be trollintrev. cold turkey in jail is easier because you cant just call up your connect and get more. this man had to fight his own mind, you didnt have a choice to get more.

[zbyszek654]

While I disagree with you completely on Suboxone, I congratulate you on getting this far. It's not easy what you've accomplished. How are things going now? Take care and do whatever you can to stay clean.

[RegistrationCop]

@zbyszek654 Suboxone and methadone are even worse to come off of than shorter acting opiates/opioids because of the long half life. If you've been taking it for a few months, then you're already dependant on it. It's hell coming off of it, I can tell you that. Weeks and sometimes a month or more of barely any sleep. It's long and drawn out. If I had a choice I would rather withdrawal from a short acting opiate, but it's still ridiculousy hard either way. Withdrawal just sucks.

[zbyszek654]

@RegistrationCop - I can only speak for my experience when I got off Suboxone. I was taking it for about 2 years for constant pain, not for addiction. I was taking no more than 4mg per day. Over the course of 10 days I weaned down to nothing at all. The only complaint I had were a few chills and difficulty falling asleep for 2 nights. Other than that I had no bad effects.

All of us are different and will respond differently. My only concern is that you are still clean. Are you?

[Muskateering]

EVERYTHING IS ADDICTIVE. And anything which gets you high and makes you feel good has some kind of withdrawal. Sucks I know.

[kidjr27]

Colonodine is bad.. It can ruin your blood pressure for good..

[Muskateering]

@kidjr27 You like scaring people don't you?

[kidjr27]

@Muskateering I don't like scaring anyone.. I just know what I am talking about.. What do you want me to do,, Lie?

[zbyszek654]

@kidjr27 - who told you this? whoever it was should be avoided in the future when it comes to information on any subject.

[Muskateering]

Withdrawals of all kinds suck. I'm coming off benzos (valium) and its fucking up my vision and memory. Benzo withdrawal can do this. Don't rely too much on the benzos, coming off them can be tough as well. Use the weed if you have it.

[kidjr27]

@Muskateering Benzo withdrawels are the worst.. You can actually die from a benzo withdrawel..

[Muskateering]

@kidjr27 Fock off. Die from a benzo withdrawal? lol. Stop spreading horror stories and blowing things out of proportion. I'm down to 2 mg of valium a day now and I feel fine, and thats fuck all.. Gonna stick with that for a while then alternate. People need help and support when there coming off this junk, a light at the end of the tunnel, a sense of promise, not these bullshit horror stories. I felt rough cuz I never came off properly, now im tapering and noticing improvements. Give HOPE.

[kidjr27]

@Muskateering Another thing is, I wasn't meaning having something to come off of it with.. Imagine being on many, many valium, zanax, and kolotopins, and then having nothing and being forced to go cold turkey.. You can fucking die you piece of shit. Try learning something before speaking next time.. Boy, I know more than you will ever know.. Fucking try me!!!

[Muskateering]

@kidjr27 Well thats just a stupid thing to do in the first place. Mixing all that shit together can kill you anyway. Abusing anything, whether it be drink, drugs, even food, is gonna kill. Look after yourself.

[kidjr27]

@Muskateering I never said I did it.. I am just saying..

[Muskateering]

@kidjr27 Your contradicting yourself now, you said trust me I know, well then how do you know? Like I said, the person who took all those benzos and abused them in the first place, well that in itself could kill. If you take a load of paracetomol tablets or aspirin, would that not kill you? If you drink far too much, would that not possibly kill you? Eat McDonalds everday? I could go on.

[Muskateering]

@kidjr27 Saying what? So you didn't do this? Mind your bloody mind up lad. Are you American? Paranoid? Hypondriach? I know you Yanks like to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

[kidjr27]

@Muskateering I meant I never almost died from a benzo withdrawal. I know all about the withdrawals from both opiates and benzos first hand believe you me. I am not contradicting myself at all. You just can't understand english obviously. Young man, I have been there and done that way deeper than you can imagine. And the only thing that makes me proud about it is that I beat it and am now clean.

[kidjr27]

@Muskateering Also, I am sick of people being prejudice.. I am a human on planet earth. I may be labeled an American because I live in this part of the world but, if you want to get technical, I am 100% Italian. Now then, if you don't believe me when I say that it is possible to die from a bad benzo addiction with no help (cold turkey), you obviously again, did no home work.

[kidjr27]

@Muskateering And 1 last thing. Though you have no idea what a real addiction problem is, I will tell you this. Doctors have patients that will be on 500mg every 12 hours of a benzo and opiate combo. The mg will keep rising year after year. This is because our kidneys treat it ass poison and we need more and more as time goes on. Then all the sudden, the attorney General or DEA pulls the doctors liscense, then what?? You tell me genius..

[Muskateering]

@kidjr27 lol.

[2001lateralus]

@Muskateering damn muskateering all kidjr27 was trying 2 tell you in the 1st place was you can die off of benzo withdrawls quitting cold turkey. (and you can!!!) then you proceeded 2 act like a complete snatch. do your fucking homework moron! and yes i am also american. suck on it you fucking bitch cunt.

[rkellysuxmyballs]

@Muskateering ello mate i think u need to go suck a big wanker nd choke on a hairy cliterus cheereo =)

[agrafes6]

@Muskateering He's right my friend, you can, if you do not reduce your intake die from a rapid detox.

[zbyszek654]

@kidjr27 - i will agree with you on this one. i've had some people show withdrawal symptoms a full 12 months after stopping.

[bettij1964]

u rock, u made my day.

[Newfie4646]

your on methadone ?

[mobiusstrip01]

yes, suboxone is similar in terms that it's like methadone in the sense that u don't take it to get high u take it to ease/stop withdrawal.

in my experience (n0t many yrs but 6 or 7 detoxes) suboxone is marginally harder to come off of, although you likely experienced or are experiencing longer period off withdrawal from methadone. when i came off suboxone i went 16 days no sleep before getting dragged to ER and checked into 5150 ward 4 72 hrs and hit with ativan...and was magically better.

[kidjr27]

@mobiusstrip01 Sub is nothing like meth.. Both are worse than oxy believe it or not.

[romeo310]

wow this was amazing man ur story helped me i had identical identification with u - on every level - congratulations im on day 19 of percocet with drawel after a surgery two yrs ago...this video blog has REALLY helped me to get thru it because i watch it and feel what im going thru is ok and normal for where im at - i tried to get off this crap in december in 4 days and i went crazy in my head and was in so much pain now im on a 21 day weening off program from my doctor much better U ROCK

[S3NYCK]

if i watch on emore of these vids iam gonna need a prescription myself. good god man. MAN-UP.

[KevinFL]

@S3NYCK

He has manned up. He's gone 19 days. He's doing it under a Dr's supervision. It raises the odds considerably

[mobiusstrip01]

uhh, till you've HAD to take these meds and your body won't let you function without the drugs after awhile...i think you wouldn't come onto these channels sounding like such a fucktard.

but hey...keep on "manning up" yourself and stay off them, if that's the way it is. good fer you bubba.

[mobiusstrip01]

the below reply was for S3NYCK down there.

[BullhornGuy]

I quit 60mg Dilaudid/day and Fentanyl 125 patches every 2 days in Sept of 2007. Basically, I cold turkeyed over about a week after a 5 year habit - thought I was going to die (as you know). At the time, I remember thinking that I would rather relive the worst year of my 50 year life than go through that again.

As bad as that was, it was a picnic compared to kicking benzodiazapines (as I've heard you recommending). I am still experiencing benzo w/d 2 years later. Are you still taking those?

[TAXavier]

Yea BZD withdrawals are the worst. Their use for withdrawals can't be discounted though. They are priceless. To take them daily after the withdrawals is just stupid (though most people don't realize they're super addictive). I quit a 5 year clonazepam addiction, at 16mg a day, about 4 weeks ago. It has been the hardest thing I've ever done. I can easily see the post acute withdrawals lasting months if not up to a couple years. BZDs store in the bones and fat even, very deep.

[Altezza07]

i CT'd after a 5 day quick taper from 60- 80mg a day down to 20mg, for bout 4 months. Day 10 and im better but still got a headache, slight rls, stomach cramps but i can sleep, eat, and not have to run to the toilet every 6 minutes now not to mention no cravings or mental withdrawl, yay! im starting to feel me again. But i still have to say weed is harder to withdrawl from for me cuz its a long drawn out mental battle!

[headtopz]

Well done!

[Kteich716]

Countinued... The third day i could tell things were getting better bu still had no energy and felt shitty. The fourth day i felt a lot better and i knew that i had gotten through it. But i wasnt using for as long as you blazen so i can be sure on how it will be for you. All i can say is take it a day at a time. Ask friends and family for help. In my opinion the best way to kick it is to go cold turkey. it may be the most painful way but it is the quickest. Get ativan..it helps a lot.

[MrSaturdayNight7]

Cold turkey is the best way. You get it done a lot faster instead of prolonging it.

[newyorkeastside]

I am glad your o.k.......did you ever completly get off?

the month this was made is august are you totally off now ...it's december 2009

what made you want to get off of those things? what did your doctor say about you wanting to get off of them?

[Psycho81588]

@MrSaturdayNight7 i dont know about that dawg, from my experience i got off em by taking 1 lortab ten one day, then the next i took a half, then the next i took half of a 5, and so on..and oh yeah i smoked the fuck outta some green. i think reefer is really good for coming off pills.

[ods1ODS]

@MrSaturdayNight7 My opinion on suboxone has gone full circle. 1st was against it and had the same view, a drug 4 a drug. Then after coming off heroin cold turkey it was actually after the withdrawals were over that i started suboxone. yes, this was fucking stupid. now that im coming off subs and seein how hard it is, im back to thinking its maybe not the best bet to go on subs. it helps u get ur life back 4 sure but it is delaying the inevitable....being 100% all u, on your own, clean.

[jasondavis2007]

@ods1ODS I agree, I did the suboxone for 6 months then realized it takes up to 3-4 weeks to get it out of our system aka 3-4 weeks of mild withdraws instead of 1 week of shit, I would take a week of shit vs a month anyday

[ods1ODS]

@jasondavis2007 did u make it? its damn hard man. for a few reasons

[CLOVERCITYY15]

@MrSaturdayNight7 ive been in a 6 yr addiction to suboxone .......STUCK IN THAT SHIT going cold turkey with suboxone is honestly the worst withdrawl ever....period.....worse then oxy and any FML :-/ now im on Klotapins that make me tired cuz my energy levels are like negitive 400 all day everyday when im off suboxone.....thats where the NAS energy drink drains my wallet or sub's for the suboxone....FUCK DRUGS

[sammydabull100]

you mean go cold turkey without taking any drugs to ease it like loperamide or tetrazepam?for longtime hard opiates users its not an issue ,last time i try to quit i was still at the peak of the withdrawals at day 7,way too long

[kidjr27]

@Kteich716 What is ativan?

[SmokinChiva]

@Kteich716 hahahahah go cold turkey....get ativan it helps....you just contradicted your self.

[ToolAdjacents]

I'm fucking sick right now.. been sick for 3 days. throwing up since 5 this morning.. that wasnt the first time i woke that night tho. i dont like alpralozam(xanax) instead i take klonazepam(klonopins*spelling error prolly*)... xanax makes me black out. what's really been helping me to sleep is a lot of weed. this shit sucks and i hope the best for u

[39tommyboy]

on the third day youre detox is what they call peaking. if you make it through it then it starts to taper off starting from the 4th day on. usually no more than about 11 days to start getting some normallity back in youre life. if a doctor gives you a very small dose of methadone for five days decreasing each dose then its so much easier but its hard to find one that will. good luck.

[fourtimezthru]

Have you researched Tabernathy Ibogain

i tried it and came off 110 ml of metrhadone plus anything in an opiate

it worked for me like a miracle.

but i have since fallen and am back on my morphine cycle, trying to stick to to just 1- 200ml every two days....its a fucking up and down road, but i am still going to try to get my ass straighten out.

Im praying for you..........☺

[fourtimezthru]

my whole family from my mom to my dad to my brother n sisters are all pill addicts, thats how i got back into this cycle, mabe i need to move......

[MrSaturdayNight7]

Yeah the enviroment your in means a lot. I'm saving the majority of my money and I'm moving back to Colorado to be by my brother. It will be a new start from me and all my old "Friends" will be very far away from me.

[CLOVERCITYY15]

@fourtimezthru im only 22 and im stuck in a 6 year suboxone addiction its this city of 14 thous. u cant change friends when your 22......thats how shit goes ! n u no it ! FUCK I HATE DRUGS

[1999jase]

ive never heard of that ,how do u get it id love to try that ,im on 110 mg of methadone

[MrSaturdayNight7]

I was just upfront with my doctor and told him I wanted to quit for good. I did a lot of research on the internet and wrote a list of prescription drugs that help during the withdrawal process. And he prescribed me some from the list. It really helped a lot. I didnt take the pain away but it took the "Freakout, think you're going to die panics" away.

[MrSaturdayNight7]

Thanks, I appreciate it. I'll pray for you and everyone else. All you guys are in my thoughts and prayers.

[joejoe1758]

@MrSaturdayNight7 Hey man did you go through alot of depression or was it just me that felt suicidal?

[lonewolf726]

@joejoe1758 Hey,when i went clean for a week,after using norco/blue watson 500's i felt suicidal as well,Extreme depression and horrible mind blowing anxiety.I dont get the pain,painful bones,aching muscles,none of that,Mines all 100% mental and emotional..I wish i could trade and deal with the pain.

[RegistrationCop]

@fourtimezthru That's way too expensive. You have to go outside the US to do it, and you also have to pay thousands of dollars. Many addicts don't have that choice. Now if you could purchase it personally for yourself, that would be much easier.

[Kteich716]

Yo man how long were you using and for how often and how much. I go off and on using but recently ive been doing it to much. I was using them for almost two weeks straight everyday. and doing about a 40mg or 60mg a day of OC or perc. I just stopped and the last two days have fucking sucked bad. last night i was waking up every hour and getting pains in all the joints in my legs. felt shitty all day today and had bad nausea and the shits. And thats only 2 weeks of doing 40mg a day.

[MrSaturdayNight7]

I used everyday for a little over a year and a half. Most of the time it was 500-600mg's of morphine a day. If I didnt have the morphine I would pop between 200-300 mg's of Oxycontin. If I didnt have that I could get through the day pretty easily with 90mg's of Methadone. If I only had the 5mg Percocets or the 7.5mg Hydrocodones. Damn I would pop a lot of those because they werent strong for me and the pain relief wouldnt last long at all.

[ToolAdjacents]

i used to know this surgeon who dated my older sister right? all i know is he was on at least 120 mg of methadone but when he even got 10 mg hydrocodones and he would jam at least 60 in his mouth. He was caught stealing vicodins(i cant even tell you how much other shit he stole from nitris tanks to marinol*thc in pill form*) He's now clean and in the marines i believe. this dude robbed a clinic once at night brick in the window crazy fuck!

[Blazen1212]

How long did ur withdrawel last Kteich. Ive been doing about 40-100mg of OC for the last 2 years. I want to quit so bad and im scared to death about the withdrawel. Please say that it is just a few days of hell and its all better. Thanks

[antonl58]

Yeah dude, I know all the in and outs of WD. I am thinking maybe the anti depressants can take away from the horrible depression that makes me relapse. Now I am on pills but I have tried tapering and failed everytime. These things are a motherfucker man. My willpower sucks, I get through the first 2 days and just give in. I have used clonidine, it helps a little but its not a cure. Suboxone is expensive. Like I said I admire your will man. Now I wake up ready for my meds,

[MrSaturdayNight7]

You can do it man. Yeah the Clonidine I was prescribed was 0.1mg. It helped some but I should have got a higher dose. How many mg's of Zoloft did they prescribe you? At first they gave me 50mg's and that wasnt working worth a shit then she bumped me up to 150mg's and now it's working good. Something else that helped me was a pill that enhances the effect of the painkiller. I can't think of the name but I remember taking 2 15mg Oxycontin's along with 4 of those pills and it felt like I took 10oxy

[antonl58]

Are you talking about soma? What sucks is around here I can get 120 norco's like nothing if I have the money. The zoloft is 150mg. I have wellbutrin to but idk. It seems my anti depressant right now is pain pills. I have tapered with kratom and shit like that but once I run out I want to go eat some pills. I have detoxed cold turkey in a mental hospital and that was the worst ever. I was on loads of oxy and heroin and robbing my family. So they took me there. I am really thinking about the zolof

[MrSaturdayNight7]

I was doing the same thing. Just for the 2 years I was using I became an expert liar. I could break into cars and pick locks like nothing. (Family and friends locked their medicine up because they knew I would steal it, which I did.) The Zoloft really helps, it took about 2 weeks to kick in but it's working great. It seemed when I mixed the painpills withit it wouldnt work as good. I've heard of Soma, but I don't know a lot about it. What does it do exactly?

[antonl58]

It's amazing how these things can turn you from a straight guy into the biggest liar and thief. I am not as bad now as I once was but still bad none the less. I am taking your advice and just gonna do it this time work or not. I am always broke and miserable. This shit takes more then it gives. Soma is a muscle relaxant that enhances opiates. It's actually great with Vikes or oxy's. However, if you don't have the soma anymore you won't feel the meds as strong. Damn this addiction is a bitch

[antonl58]

I have been prescribed zoloft and have bottles of the stuff but I am to afraid of the sexual side effects. I have been through WD numerous times and always seem to go crawling back. I don't get any time off for the next 2 months from work. This shit destroys everything man. It seems when I am off everything is great but I dabble in the dark side thats just what it becomes. I must say to do it like you did takes guts. Your willpower is amazing.

[MrSaturdayNight7]

I know exactly what you mean. I had been through the withdrawals a few times and just finally said "Fuck It". I kept putting it off, "I'll just do it today and quit tomorrow" blah blah blah. Then I woke up one morning and said enough's enough. 9 days of bullshit is worth a life of feeling better. Maybe you can get Suboxone. The Xanax, Clonidine, Librium, Zoloft helped A LOT. I was able to get some Valium from time to time and that helped aswell. You can do this, you're in my prayers.

[antonl58]

you have amazing willpower. Do you suffer any sexual side effects from zoloft? I have an addiction problem to. I wish I could find a way out of the hell I have been going through. My biggest fear is being sick at work, which is absolute terror. opiates have robbed me for going on 3 years now, everything just like you has been taken away. I have even moved but it's the same story everywhere, same problems.

[MrSaturdayNight7]

I don't have any with the Zoloft. I was on it when I had a girlfriend and never had any issues. The fear is the worst part, can you get any vacation time? Thanks for the comment man. If you ever need to talk just drop me a message.

[phuckingemailmehere]

actually suboxone will block you from getting high and it doesnt show in a piss test it is a partial agonist whereas methadone oxy etc are full agonists.....suboxone just makes you not feel horrible and no high associated maybe a week of sub would get you though it better

[MrSaturdayNight7]

I tried to find Suboxone but gave up after awhile. There's only 2 doctors in my area that are licensed to prescribe it and they would help me out. They were assholes, they told me just to go to the emergency room. I guess it was a blessing in disguise because I may have still been on that.

[dymd3z]

What pattern did you follow to ween down? I was at 1-3 percocet a day, but recently I've relapsed to taking about 60mg of oxy a day. I really want and need to get out of this, so any advice on how to ween down to a safe point before going dry would be great.

[MrSaturdayNight7]

Every fourth or fifth day I would take a little off. If your taking 60mg of Oxy a day. What MG's of a pill are you taking? The 15's the 40's or a 60? If your taking the 15 mg's, every fourth or fifth day cut a little bit of a pill off. Put it in a ziplock back, put a knife where you want to cut it and then tap it with something. It should break pretty easily and the ziplock bag will hold all the crumbs that were created by breaking the pill. Then take that dose for 4 or 5 days and then repeat.

[dymd3z]

I was sniffing about 3-4 20mg oc's a day. Mind you this was only for a few weeks, before that I was down to just a few percs a day but I relapses during the onset of major depression. Gonna take your advice and see a psych for my depression so it doesn't happen again. Thanks for the advice!

[MrSaturdayNight7]

Yeah man try it out. It's kind of hard at first but it get's easier. It's better than being sick as fuck by going cold turkey. This way you're not completely uncomfortable. I'm on an Anti-Depressant too. I'm on Zoloft 150mg's a day and it does wonders. Ask you're doctor or Psych about it. It treats like 6 or 7 different things. Including Depression, Anxiety etc. I wish you all the best and I'll keep you in my prayers. If you ever need to chat just drop me a message.

[chazzesgirl]

Hey my husband&I goin thru samething.I did same thing as youfrom booze2pills.got into methadone clinic went 6mon. We worked our way down 2 10mg.of methadone thought we could kick from there but here we are goin thur same type of withdrawal.And now were not being charged $730 a month that's the only difference. I pray you made it to the other side. To a life free from this shit. Please say a lil pray for us.

[MrSaturdayNight7]

I've been praying for you. I hope all is well. Yeah I went from booze to pills aswell. I wish I never took that first pill. I'm just glad the worst is over. Sorry for the late response. I was gone for awhile.

[drkurtz50]

I was with you until you got the meth -- what about the withdrawal without that option?

[MrSaturdayNight7]

I would have gone cold turkey but when I have a job to go to which are 12-14 hour days I couldnt just stop or I wouldnt have been able to go to work. I have bills to pay. I weened down to nothing. I'm on my 11th day without taking any painkiller/Opiate. I'm just taking Clonidine, Xanax, and Zoloft now.

[audrie70]

I agree...I want off all opiates!!!!!!I like listening to you,and wish you the best!!!!!!Im doing my best to taper off the methadone......good luck!!!!!!

[MrSaturdayNight7]

Thanks Audrie. Good luck to you aswell. Tapering down is a lot easier than quitting cold turkey. It will still be tough but it'll be a lot easier than the abrupt stop. Especially if you have a job to go to. I'll be praying for you, just stay strong and you'll be able to do it. When I was tapering down I actually gave my prescription bottle to a close relative so the temptation of taking more than I should have wasnt there. Thanks for the comment and keep me updated on your status.