IT IS CLEAR; the guy on the yzf gave the start to this guy on the 490; another 1/8th mile and the 490 would have been dusted, even the wide ratio trans in an it490 engine wouldnt yield more than around 110mph with the correct gearing, STILL very quick in the 1/8th mile, but not infoulable. two of these engines grafted together or separate wouild be u huge force to contend with even in the 1/4 mile. The 2 stroke torque is un-deniable.
every one is like i rebuild my bike i race a 91 yz 250 in gncc about 5 years ago if you ride it right and take care of the bike youl never have to rebuild
I am thinking of creating a bobber project with a 490 motor I'n it and hopefully have my frame fabricated and welded by this summer. Does anyone think that would be an awesome idea? If anyone feels that would be something to see I'n video send me a message ! Let me hear some feedback and I live I'n California so I would have to see if the DMV would register it.
LONG LIVE THE TWO STROKES AS THEY ARE POWER HOUSE'S NICE RACE AND AWSOME BIKE MAN. i WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR BIKE MAN AS I NEVER SAW A 490CC KILL A 1000CC VERY COOL AND AWSOME MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Part two, Lack torque????? A 2 stroke of the same size as a comparable 4 stroke makes almost twice the torque, most motocrossers were engineered and built for horsepower and speed and not necessarily torque. However, they still make much more torque than their 4 stroke brethren. Look at the Honda S2000 engine, it had very little torque and required tons of rev's to move, it was based on their motorcycle engine. Motorcycles have less weight and need less torque, but can be built for torque.
@7h3647hin6 Hey genius, before spouting off about a lack of facts, look up the terminology as to what "kinetic energy" means. Gasoline powered engines are a form of kinetic energy. Secondly, the 2 strokes fell out of favor because the rule changes make them uncompetitive. How can an engine that makes over 50 horsepower and weighs less than an engine that makes only 37 horsepower and has more torque and less weight be slower? Talk about a lack of facts, try reading some pertinent information.
If they get the fuel injection worked out for motorcycles, we will have our twostrokes back! Bigger & better than ever! They allready have it on snowmobiles and outboard motors. So whats the hold up for motorcycles? I would love to have a big bore or four cylinder two stroke street bike.
@dudeking1999 Thats a really good question. However the new fuel injection on two-strokes is direct injection and thus saves fuel. It doesn't provide any power advantage that I have seen. Atv's and street machines are in a different cattegory which sucks!
That's a misnomer that the 4 stroke crowd spews onto the unsuspecting, that a 2 stroke cannot last as long. Do 3 things to your 2 stroke, to make it last as long or longer than a similar diesel. Those "things" are: Good, proper jetting. Good oil. And the single most important thing to do on a 2 stroke, LET IT WARM UP! A 2 stroke by natures vastly superior. In fact, a leading scientist said after checking each engine design, a 2 stroke is the highest form of gasoline kinetic energy on the planet.
@7h3647h32in6 Ok, if what you said is true and 2 stroke motors make no torque, then why is it that the YZ 250F produces 36 HP and 20.1 foot lbs of torque while the YZ 250 2 stroke produces 46 HP and 30.6 foot lbs of torque? It should also be noted that the YZ450F produces 34 foot lbs of torque thats 200 more cubic centimeters and only 4 more foot lbs of torque than a 250 YZ... I think you need to go and hit the books man.
@7h3647h32in6 uhm actually the same class for a 250 2 stroke is really a 250 4 stroke. They just race the 450f against the 250 2 smoker in order to try to make it fair. Secondly, a 250 producing 4 foot pounds less than a 450 f is hardly lacking in torque. Finally, the two stroke is in fact more efficient than the 4 seeing how it burns more of its gases and wastes less, this is not a theory. You act as though the 2 stroke is totally inferior to the 4 when its actually the other way around.
@7h3647h32in6 How is that exactly what you were saying?? You said "In theory, 2 strokes can be highly efficient, but just like electric motors, they have some pretty big downsides. One is that they are much harder to use as a drive motor since they lack torque (which means gear changes have to be very precise or it bogs down). this is why it fell out of favor in MX." I am trying to explain to you that ALL 2 strokes produce MORE torque and do not LACK torque... god ur dumb LOL
@7h3647h32in6 How is that exactly what you were saying?? You said "In theory, 2 strokes can be highly efficient, but just like electric motors, they have some pretty big downsides. One is that they are much harder to use as a drive motor since they lack torque (which means gear changes have to be very precise or it bogs down). this is why it fell out of favor in MX." I am trying to explain to you that ALL 2 strokes produce MORE torque and do not LACK torque... god ur dumb LOL
@7h3647h32in6 How is that exactly what you were saying?? You said "In theory, 2 strokes can be highly efficient, but just like electric motors, they have some pretty big downsides. One is that they are much harder to use as a drive motor since they lack torque (which means gear changes have to be very precise or it bogs down). this is why it fell out of favor in MX." I am trying to explain to you that ALL 2 strokes produce MORE torque and do not LACK torque... god ur dumb LOL
If, like me your well over 30 you'll remember proper old skool strokers and they were xlnt fun(yz,it, rm, cr, pe, kx,ke,rdlc,x7,kettle,kh triple etc). Smell of Castrol R when an LC350 went past was top. Im a big fan of them but also new sportsbikes and i've had a few of both. I had yam IT 490 enduro 12 yrs ago and it made ANY off-road hill in 2nd gear that i tried(big pit hills in n/e england) and used to nearly pull my arms out fully wound. Stroker instant power is a rush. ENJOY ALL 2 WHEELS
If, like me your well over 30 you'll remember proper old skool strokers and they were xlnt fun(yz,it, rm, cr, pe, kx,ke,rdlc,x7,kettle,kh triple etc). Smell of Castrol R when an LC350 went past was top. Im a big fan of them but also new sportsbikes and i've had a few of both. I had yam IT 490 enduro 12 yrs ago and it made ANY off-road hill in 2nd gear that i tried(big pit hills in n/e england) and used to nearly pull my arms out fully wound . Stroker instant power is a rush. ENJOY ALL 2 WHEELS
Man yamaha sure made some hot 2 strokes back in the day. I remember tearing through the fields on my old 1973 DT3-250 that thing really tore things up. "This was only 2003 I got that bike but it could stand up to my cousins new TTR-225 easy."
@Gsnickets No but Yamaha's mx models from that times where absolute torque monsters. Heck the 360 mx alone had something like 38-42 horsepower. Imagine what a 500 mx would do. Jesus Christ I bet that thing would have as much or more horepower then there XS650 model.
@Agamum oh man, the SC500 is a monster..... doesn't matter what gear you're in, twist the throttle and you'll swear the bike is going to come out from under you. I race a CRF450 that's been hopped up, and that thing doesn't even come close to scarring me as much as the old SC500.
wish tht 2 strokes would return u sau know tht its not true but u distroyed the yzf holy shit did all the good company's make 500cc 2 troke engines what were they thinking! they weere deff high
a yzf 1000 is a mad fast road bike and to get a 490 2 stroke ex dirty to even stay with it let alone beat it is an unreal acheivment sweet job definetly an eye opener
YZ 490 is a 2 stroke moded one whereas YZF R1 is stock. We should agree 2 stroke engines are awesome, but 4 stroke engine are now coming as shorter stroke, which gives performance as like 2 strokes now... SO NO NEED TO FIGHT BOTH 4 STROKE AND 2 STROKE ENGINES ARE INCREDIBLE... F1 Cars have 4stroke engine have u seen the performance of that???
Thats the REAL 2-stroke from Hell! Thank you I know what motor I'm using for my custom build blaster now will take alot of time and mulla but in the end it'll be raw! I would say NICE BADASS BIKE but you already know it is and everybody else does too! Subbed 2stroke for life keep the vids comin!
@GodsOfWrestling I have an old 1987 Suzuki TS250X it's done 24,000 km's and it's only been rebuilt 3 times and it keeps up with my dads honda XR600R so if you take good care of a two stroke it will last ages
. I rebuild once every season. That would be once a year. You must be of a newer generation and speculate of what others tell you. If you run a two stroke right, it will last.
@tommyapa just piston rings u do every year or full rebuild of the crank ect??i just got a 1979 rm400 runs good new top end over sized piston i think only first over .cant wait to get itt o the strip
@tommyapa You never had a season when you had to rebuild ur engine before? Shit happens man and parts wear, sometimes people don't install shit right ( even professionals from time to time) or you can take a bad crash and all that can makes for a bad combo. An empty wallet, an unhappy rider, and worst of all, time away from the track ( even if its as little as a week)
Titanium valve hyper technology ktm 250 4-stroke. Piston change at 40hours, fragile valves cant handle ANY dust. (I head this from a pro enduro guy who's done about 25years of riding)
There's also been many problems in 450-640ktm's with their crank being warped and twisted, WEAK :)
@Angelus12308 man u got me all wrong i was replying to someone who said cbr 600's beat old cr 500's which even if it were true a dirt bike will always win on the dirt. I own an 07 kx250 2t and ppl call my bike shit because they compare my dirt bike to road bikes ..
Those little 2 strokes are very quick. Quick I say not necessarily fast so they almost always get the jump. But when that litre bike gets into it's groove there's no stopping it from stonkin' on much else.
I went desert riding with friends and they were on new 4 strokes and I was riding my 81 maico 490. The laugh at me and said are you going to ride that old thing. They were crying when all they saw were the rocks coming from my rear tire as I smoke their doors off, out handle, and out drag them on the straights.
@husky500cr HA HA HA!!! I just love doing stuff like that. Good for you! Those maicos are gnarly. Hopefully I can get my hands on one some day when some fool doesn't know what he has and tries to throw one out.
only because they cant ride. there is no way you maico handles as well as a modern bike. It is a very cool bike though so props for keeping her alive.
@ kj7687.i never seen a clock time on any of those vids.(no offense s&r).i seen different vid of a turbo busa run a 9.2.HA!a stock 07 gsxr will run 9.7 with a pipe and a sprocket.ive done it.u think that speed is accurate?i went down 1 tooth and my speedo said 170,gps said 140.which would u trust?if that busa is goin that fast it sure as hell dont have a stock sprocket therefore the speed is wrong.why would they fix the speedo if thats a track bike?funny bikes yes not a fn busa.
Whatever dude, go look it up. What I've said about Hayabusas is simple fact, not my fucking imagination. And I'm not going to waste my time arguing about it. But I will tell you type in "worlds quickest street bike" on YouTube. The third one in the list brings up a 7 second, 200 mph busa run. You can see the time on the time clock.
haven't u ever heard the expression "dont believe everything u see on tv?" well, same goes for youtube. Ive seen many bikes run 7 seconds and faster in real life at our local strip. Lots of these bikes were driven to the track making them street bikes. Some bikes were not modified much either. Just to pour a little salt in the wound, I witnessed an Artic cat snowmobile eat 3 different Busas all in the same day.
I agree the Busa is really really over hyped. I think people tend to think that because the bike can reach nearly 200mph, it can also go down a track faster than any other bike which is not true. There are lots of bikes faster than the Busa in a 1/4 mile. Some new some old. I just got done watching a video with a nearly stock 1970s Kawasaki H2 running the 1/4 in 8 seconds
let me go into detail a little.... i think they suck because their too long.i like corners and i like to go to the strip but anyone can ride a built bike in a strait line. the thing about corners is every one of them is different.but to each his own......
@ kj7687 Well if a CBR 600 will absolutely destroy an old cr500 how do you recon a 1300 gixxer turbo (street setup) would go against say a new kx250 around an mx track?????
I PUT THIS ANGRY JAR OF BEES TOGETHER AND RACE IT IN A OPEN CLASS. THIS BIG BORE HAS NEVER GOT BEAT BY A CBR600R AND RACE MANY MODERN 600'S 4 STROKES. iT GETS HIGH 9'S ALL DAY LONG
@tommyapa lol dont get me wrong im for the 2 smokes all the way mate, i was replying to someone who thought cbr 600's beat the old 2 strokes even if it were true they made for dirt no street bike will ever win on the dirt anyway
@bushdog89 FUCKING stupid ass youtube god damn it. I wrote a reply to your comment and it didn't fucking post. Fuck! Anwyay. amadragbike d-o-t - c-o- m. Read the text on the home page there. Also I know there are at least a couple videos on youtube of seven second, 200 mph street busas. I've seen them. I looked them up again right now but couldn't find them (don't remember the vid name) and don't want to spend the time to do that right now.
Sorry to all you people that think two strokes are the fastest things on the planet. Sure, smaller bore two strokes will destroy smaller bore four strokes in straight line speed. But if you're comparing a CR500 to a MODERN big bore supersport... Sorry, but a stock CBR 600 (roughly 120 crank hp) will absolutely destroy a stock CR500 (around 60 hp). Not to mention CR500 versus a brand new 1000cc sport bike. Now if you're talking about built bikes, that's a different story.
But if we ARE talking about BUILT bikes, then we can use a turbo Suzuki Hayabusa. Nothing is fucking faster than a highly modded and tuned turbo busa! Try seven seconds from a dead stop to 200 mph (not to mention that is a figure for a street legal motorcycle without a drag bar). I'd like to see your two stroke drag bike to even begin to compare with that figure!
@Bigjq2000 Hey bigjq, maybe you should do a little research before you talk shit next time. There are videos on YouTube of 7 second, 200+ mph street legal turbo hayabusas. I've seen them. I don't remember the names of those vids or the tuning company that built the bikes. Read the text on the homepage of amadragbike d-o-t - c-o-m . Right now I can't find the ones I saw of the 200 plus runs, but if you youtube search for "S&R pro busa" you'll see a couple high 7 runs at close to 200.
@kj7687 ALRIGHT fuckers lol: I wanted to see it again myself so I spent a little time finding a couple of those videos. Here is one of them (copy and paste into the YouTube search bar): WORLDS QUICKEST STREETBIKE 7.13@201mph
@Bigjq2000 yes the gixxer 1k is a very good drag bike; but its not accurate to say that "busas suck", just because you beat one or a few of them. With the difference in ET generally as minute as it is, the rider generally has more to do with it than the machine (so long as the machines are close).
i've got an 86 yz 490 all juiced up and let me tell ya, theyll kick the shit out of any 4 stroke bike out there. ive never lost a straight line race on that bike.
2 strokes and 4 strokes are way different, both are good, 125 2 strokes race 250 4 strokes, 250 2 strokes race 450 4 strokes and a 500 2 stroke will break the average rider very quickly!
i bet a 125 could beat a 1000 from the drop lol. or a 250. it's just the top end where a 2 stroke gets beat. but as a drag bike great run man looks way to fast for me. just wondering one thing. how did he keep the front wheel down?!! good vid
the smaller ones have the most power in the top rpms. 4 strokes have a more even power distribution and have more usable high rpms, where as 2 strokes power is almost totaly lost in the highest rpms.
but when 2 strokes are in the powerband they have the most torque, even more then any 4 stroke i know
streebikes? no. dirbikes yes, but those 4 strokers are coming close. i prefer 2 stroke dirtbike cause i love the 2 stroke tune :cracklin cylinder! but the 4 strokes have the torque, i don't care lol i just pull clutch and rev then let go. 4 stroke dirbikes require same amount of maintenance as 2 strokes. u have to change oil (engine tranny as one) and oil filter while the 2 stroke only tranny oil and add oil to gas. the require the same amount of rebuilds too. 2/4 stroke dirtbikes,jus preferance
power to weight ratio, baby. this is why i love 2 strokes. pound for pound, size for size, a 4 stroke can't match a 2 stroke in power. why do you think it takes a 450cc 4 stroke to compete with a 250cc 2 stroke.
How about u post the fucking pictures u god dam panzi and keep talking shit u know a fucking CRF450 with fuel injection would kill that fucking thing no problem.......but so would my F18 fighter jet......buts shit the crf kills that....BITCH!!!!!!
i will go and grow up once u start suckin my cock because big boar 2 strokes can go fuck off because they blow and are weak.... and have nothing compared to the new 4strokes with the engined maped out BITCH!
Umm yeah answer me this is cr500 kx500 and yz490 are SUCH AWSOME BIKES!!!! then y dont they make them anymore ????? is it because they suck are heavy and New technology has made them obsolete? yeah ansere that you gereatric fuck
Haha this reminds me of when I got whooped by a 500cc Yamaha RD 2-stroker. I had my 01' Kawasaki ZX7R at the time. His bike sounded like a can full of bees and I laughed at him... then he left me in a cloud of smoke. Two strokes rule!
Silence in Defeat, typical stuck up poser , pissed because they spent 7 grand on a four stroke... HAHA... go buy new vlaves after 17 hours, yeah, real reliable aint they ? keep throwing money at it, it'll still be junk with to many moving parts..........
Finally, the arguement between two stroke and four stroke is over, read em and weep fourstroke lovers, your bikes are heavy and sluggish, theres no comparison in acceleration, so go take your fart machines and pound sand ! get it through your heads, your 450 is NOT an open bike, the factory's have brained washed you, so go buy some more graphics for your plastics, and leave the Big Bores for the MEN who have balls enough to ride em ! your DONE !
over? please i could have beat him on a 250 4 stroke. sure id need just as many mods as that hunk of crap needed and by the way with a 36 tooth sprocket i wouldnt be god damn suprised it beat that other crappy rider on the street bike. both junk yamahas i bet.
heres a better comparison put a 36 tooth on my kx 450, with my pipe and jet ill whoop that things ass! the debate is over, out with the old (2 SMOKES) and in with the new (THUMPERS). ever heard of 13.0.1 compression?
besides that, if you read ? you can see that the Mods performed on this motor were quite minimal, I'm sure more time was spent fitting the motor in the frame.......
Out with the old in with junk. You need twice the displacement with a 4 stroke just to be competitive against a 2 stroke. 2 Stroke is still king, don't let anyone deceive you.
Exhaust and fuel chambers were openned up,head ported, KX500 vforce reed valve,36 tooth rear sprocket, runs with VP fuel, and a custom exhaust was specially made for it. Diego the rider is one of the best I've seen. Thanks for looking
THAT SH!T WAS SICK HE DIDNT LET GO OF THE GAS WHEN HE SHIFTED
MYKAL675 1 month ago
2 stroke + powerband = cant got wrong!!!!
TheMitchtuber 5 months ago 5
@TheMitchtuber You obviously don't even know what a powerband is ..
pencon61 3 months ago
Im missing the scrapyard at the end of the strip, anyone?
lunitjemoer 6 months ago
@lunitjemoer You couldn't handle it anyways little man.
dooalittledippsy 5 months ago
yep if you run a 2 stroke right it will last I definately agree with you, just keep it a little rich and your laughin
jkukd 6 months ago
IT IS CLEAR; the guy on the yzf gave the start to this guy on the 490; another 1/8th mile and the 490 would have been dusted, even the wide ratio trans in an it490 engine wouldnt yield more than around 110mph with the correct gearing, STILL very quick in the 1/8th mile, but not infoulable. two of these engines grafted together or separate wouild be u huge force to contend with even in the 1/4 mile. The 2 stroke torque is un-deniable.
RichlandHillbillxc42 7 months ago
every one is like i rebuild my bike i race a 91 yz 250 in gncc about 5 years ago if you ride it right and take care of the bike youl never have to rebuild
Patrtickgilligan 7 months ago
I am thinking of creating a bobber project with a 490 motor I'n it and hopefully have my frame fabricated and welded by this summer. Does anyone think that would be an awesome idea? If anyone feels that would be something to see I'n video send me a message ! Let me hear some feedback and I live I'n California so I would have to see if the DMV would register it.
thehundredsrocks 8 months ago
awesome! two strokes forever! Smoke that R1. I have a 1980 YZ465. Very cool.
buschandbusch 9 months ago
LONG LIVE THE TWO STROKES AS THEY ARE POWER HOUSE'S NICE RACE AND AWSOME BIKE MAN. i WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR BIKE MAN AS I NEVER SAW A 490CC KILL A 1000CC VERY COOL AND AWSOME MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheBIGRED200e 10 months ago
Impressive!
fred1671 11 months ago
Gotta love the 2 strokes...so fun to ride
96JUSTIN 11 months ago
holy shit batman that thing flies
RidingSausage 11 months ago
oh shitt
skater4lifemb 1 year ago
Part two, Lack torque????? A 2 stroke of the same size as a comparable 4 stroke makes almost twice the torque, most motocrossers were engineered and built for horsepower and speed and not necessarily torque. However, they still make much more torque than their 4 stroke brethren. Look at the Honda S2000 engine, it had very little torque and required tons of rev's to move, it was based on their motorcycle engine. Motorcycles have less weight and need less torque, but can be built for torque.
Revanche2strokes 1 year ago
@7h3647hin6 Hey genius, before spouting off about a lack of facts, look up the terminology as to what "kinetic energy" means. Gasoline powered engines are a form of kinetic energy. Secondly, the 2 strokes fell out of favor because the rule changes make them uncompetitive. How can an engine that makes over 50 horsepower and weighs less than an engine that makes only 37 horsepower and has more torque and less weight be slower? Talk about a lack of facts, try reading some pertinent information.
Revanche2strokes 1 year ago
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7h3647h32in6 1 year ago
If they get the fuel injection worked out for motorcycles, we will have our twostrokes back! Bigger & better than ever! They allready have it on snowmobiles and outboard motors. So whats the hold up for motorcycles? I would love to have a big bore or four cylinder two stroke street bike.
dudeking1999 1 year ago
@dudeking1999 Thats a really good question. However the new fuel injection on two-strokes is direct injection and thus saves fuel. It doesn't provide any power advantage that I have seen. Atv's and street machines are in a different cattegory which sucks!
darrylsh 1 year ago
That's a misnomer that the 4 stroke crowd spews onto the unsuspecting, that a 2 stroke cannot last as long. Do 3 things to your 2 stroke, to make it last as long or longer than a similar diesel. Those "things" are: Good, proper jetting. Good oil. And the single most important thing to do on a 2 stroke, LET IT WARM UP! A 2 stroke by natures vastly superior. In fact, a leading scientist said after checking each engine design, a 2 stroke is the highest form of gasoline kinetic energy on the planet.
Revanche2strokes 1 year ago
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7h3647h32in6 1 year ago
@7h3647h32in6 Ok, if what you said is true and 2 stroke motors make no torque, then why is it that the YZ 250F produces 36 HP and 20.1 foot lbs of torque while the YZ 250 2 stroke produces 46 HP and 30.6 foot lbs of torque? It should also be noted that the YZ450F produces 34 foot lbs of torque thats 200 more cubic centimeters and only 4 more foot lbs of torque than a 250 YZ... I think you need to go and hit the books man.
LordSamuelJ 1 year ago
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7h3647h32in6 1 year ago
@7h3647h32in6 uhm actually the same class for a 250 2 stroke is really a 250 4 stroke. They just race the 450f against the 250 2 smoker in order to try to make it fair. Secondly, a 250 producing 4 foot pounds less than a 450 f is hardly lacking in torque. Finally, the two stroke is in fact more efficient than the 4 seeing how it burns more of its gases and wastes less, this is not a theory. You act as though the 2 stroke is totally inferior to the 4 when its actually the other way around.
LordSamuelJ 1 year ago
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@7h3647h32in6 How is that exactly what you were saying?? You said "In theory, 2 strokes can be highly efficient, but just like electric motors, they have some pretty big downsides. One is that they are much harder to use as a drive motor since they lack torque (which means gear changes have to be very precise or it bogs down). this is why it fell out of favor in MX." I am trying to explain to you that ALL 2 strokes produce MORE torque and do not LACK torque... god ur dumb LOL
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@7h3647h32in6 How is that exactly what you were saying?? You said "In theory, 2 strokes can be highly efficient, but just like electric motors, they have some pretty big downsides. One is that they are much harder to use as a drive motor since they lack torque (which means gear changes have to be very precise or it bogs down). this is why it fell out of favor in MX." I am trying to explain to you that ALL 2 strokes produce MORE torque and do not LACK torque... god ur dumb LOL
LordSamuelJ 1 year ago
@7h3647h32in6 How is that exactly what you were saying?? You said "In theory, 2 strokes can be highly efficient, but just like electric motors, they have some pretty big downsides. One is that they are much harder to use as a drive motor since they lack torque (which means gear changes have to be very precise or it bogs down). this is why it fell out of favor in MX." I am trying to explain to you that ALL 2 strokes produce MORE torque and do not LACK torque... god ur dumb LOL
LordSamuelJ 1 year ago
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LordSamuelJ 1 year ago
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dude that's bullshit
denknietna 1 year ago
please Yamaha....never stop building theese 2 stroke engines. YZ is OK for now, but we need more !!!!!
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If, like me your well over 30 you'll remember proper old skool strokers and they were xlnt fun(yz,it, rm, cr, pe, kx,ke,rdlc,x7,kettle,kh triple etc). Smell of Castrol R when an LC350 went past was top. Im a big fan of them but also new sportsbikes and i've had a few of both. I had yam IT 490 enduro 12 yrs ago and it made ANY off-road hill in 2nd gear that i tried(big pit hills in n/e england) and used to nearly pull my arms out fully wound. Stroker instant power is a rush. ENJOY ALL 2 WHEELS
MECHEN66 1 year ago
If, like me your well over 30 you'll remember proper old skool strokers and they were xlnt fun(yz,it, rm, cr, pe, kx,ke,rdlc,x7,kettle,kh triple etc). Smell of Castrol R when an LC350 went past was top. Im a big fan of them but also new sportsbikes and i've had a few of both. I had yam IT 490 enduro 12 yrs ago and it made ANY off-road hill in 2nd gear that i tried(big pit hills in n/e england) and used to nearly pull my arms out fully wound . Stroker instant power is a rush. ENJOY ALL 2 WHEELS
MECHEN66 1 year ago
Man yamaha sure made some hot 2 strokes back in the day. I remember tearing through the fields on my old 1973 DT3-250 that thing really tore things up. "This was only 2003 I got that bike but it could stand up to my cousins new TTR-225 easy."
Agamum 1 year ago
@Agamum ever ride the old SC500? absolute beast of a bike.
Gsnickets 1 year ago
@Gsnickets No but Yamaha's mx models from that times where absolute torque monsters. Heck the 360 mx alone had something like 38-42 horsepower. Imagine what a 500 mx would do. Jesus Christ I bet that thing would have as much or more horepower then there XS650 model.
Agamum 1 year ago
@Agamum oh man, the SC500 is a monster..... doesn't matter what gear you're in, twist the throttle and you'll swear the bike is going to come out from under you. I race a CRF450 that's been hopped up, and that thing doesn't even come close to scarring me as much as the old SC500.
Gsnickets 1 year ago
2 stroke power
bliffda 1 year ago 3
tHIS 490 HAS A 1985 ENGINE. IT IS BETTER THAN 82,83 MODEL. YOU CAN PUT BIGGER AFTER MARKET REED VALVE IN THIS CYCLINDER.
THIS ENGINA BOLTS DOWN WITH SEVEN NUTS INSTEAD OF 6 NUTS.
tommyapa 1 year ago
@tommyapa tHIS 490 HAS A 1985 ENGINE. IT IS BETTER THAN 82,83 MODEL. YOU CAN PUT BIGGER AFTER MARKET REED VALVE IN THIS CYCLINDER.
THIS ENGINA BOLTS DOWN WITH SEVEN NUTS INSTEAD OF 6 NUTS.
tommyapa 1 year ago
The 490 was available in UK in 1980 with 49hp have piccies, info seems to suggest 1981.
jhareng 1 year ago
wish tht 2 strokes would return u sau know tht its not true but u distroyed the yzf holy shit did all the good company's make 500cc 2 troke engines what were they thinking! they weere deff high
rohockeykickass 1 year ago
Thanks for your comment. Very well stateted. reading your comment really makes me proud of posting this video. Thanks
tommyapa 1 year ago
a yzf 1000 is a mad fast road bike and to get a 490 2 stroke ex dirty to even stay with it let alone beat it is an unreal acheivment sweet job definetly an eye opener
wad1990 1 year ago
YZ 490 is a 2 stroke moded one whereas YZF R1 is stock. We should agree 2 stroke engines are awesome, but 4 stroke engine are now coming as shorter stroke, which gives performance as like 2 strokes now... SO NO NEED TO FIGHT BOTH 4 STROKE AND 2 STROKE ENGINES ARE INCREDIBLE... F1 Cars have 4stroke engine have u seen the performance of that???
MrSaqib140 1 year ago
Thats the REAL 2-stroke from Hell! Thank you I know what motor I'm using for my custom build blaster now will take alot of time and mulla but in the end it'll be raw! I would say NICE BADASS BIKE but you already know it is and everybody else does too! Subbed 2stroke for life keep the vids comin!
2strokeRider4Life 1 year ago
@GodsOfWrestling I have an old 1987 Suzuki TS250X it's done 24,000 km's and it's only been rebuilt 3 times and it keeps up with my dads honda XR600R so if you take good care of a two stroke it will last ages
suzukiholdenman 1 year ago
Wrong...................
. I rebuild once every season. That would be once a year. You must be of a newer generation and speculate of what others tell you. If you run a two stroke right, it will last.
tommyapa 1 year ago 16
@tommyapa just piston rings u do every year or full rebuild of the crank ect??i just got a 1979 rm400 runs good new top end over sized piston i think only first over .cant wait to get itt o the strip
1983cr125 1 year ago
@tommyapa You never had a season when you had to rebuild ur engine before? Shit happens man and parts wear, sometimes people don't install shit right ( even professionals from time to time) or you can take a bad crash and all that can makes for a bad combo. An empty wallet, an unhappy rider, and worst of all, time away from the track ( even if its as little as a week)
the3bigreddevils 6 months ago
Cool , sux's 2strokes cant last more than a week with the same engine -.-
GodsOfWrestling 1 year ago
@GodsOfWrestling
Titanium valve hyper technology ktm 250 4-stroke. Piston change at 40hours, fragile valves cant handle ANY dust. (I head this from a pro enduro guy who's done about 25years of riding)
There's also been many problems in 450-640ktm's with their crank being warped and twisted, WEAK :)
eamh2002 1 year ago
2t... ;_; r.i.p
cardboardreindeer 1 year ago
@Angelus12308 man u got me all wrong i was replying to someone who said cbr 600's beat old cr 500's which even if it were true a dirt bike will always win on the dirt. I own an 07 kx250 2t and ppl call my bike shit because they compare my dirt bike to road bikes ..
Sipifok 1 year ago
2 strokes are faster of the line but in long distance 4 strokes will win usually
yumcha16 1 year ago
Just like with music-oldschool the best :)
rambusinek 1 year ago
Love two strokes but I have myself a YZ 250f
MrDirtbikerider1234 1 year ago
I fucking LOVE 2 strokes!
ED209ISBACK 1 year ago
Those little 2 strokes are very quick. Quick I say not necessarily fast so they almost always get the jump. But when that litre bike gets into it's groove there's no stopping it from stonkin' on much else.
jgibson111 2 years ago
el motor 2 t siempre sera mas potente ke el 4t,es cmo el diesel y la gasolina en el coche,la gasolina siempre sera mas explosiva!
IPURUA 2 years ago
gracias por el comentario. mira mis otros videos y pasalos a tus amigos. Tommy
tommyapa 2 years ago
I went desert riding with friends and they were on new 4 strokes and I was riding my 81 maico 490. The laugh at me and said are you going to ride that old thing. They were crying when all they saw were the rocks coming from my rear tire as I smoke their doors off, out handle, and out drag them on the straights.
husky500cr 2 years ago 3
hell yea!
77toyota 2 years ago
@husky500cr HA HA HA!!! I just love doing stuff like that. Good for you! Those maicos are gnarly. Hopefully I can get my hands on one some day when some fool doesn't know what he has and tries to throw one out.
BigAgitator 2 years ago
only because they cant ride. there is no way you maico handles as well as a modern bike. It is a very cool bike though so props for keeping her alive.
tripletrash 2 years ago
maybe try a fair race?
yz dragbike vs yzf dragbike
looks like yzf is stock
kariemariann 2 years ago
this isn't fair for the 490 right?
why a fair race ? 490 smoked the 4stroke 1000cc
opretopsy 2 years ago
if the 1000cc had any mods it would smoke the 490.
the 1000 was stock!
the 490 is a full out drag bike
kariemariann 2 years ago 2
yeaaa but 1000 cc :o xD
opretopsy 2 years ago
humm... it's 1000 cc !
xzistpo 2 years ago
@ karimariann
It's like seeing a pimped out Ford festiva smoking a corvette. " Yeah but the corvette is stock " well it's a fuc*-* festiva.
full out drag bike or not 1000cc > 490cc, more than double.
xzistpo 2 years ago
as a general rule of thumb: 490 2 stroke cc's = 980 cc's of four stroke.
Brian500R 1 year ago
2 strokes will always bash 4 strokes the return of 2 strokes is happening right now
smoking4us 2 years ago 52
Awsome. thanks 4 looking bro, pass this video on to everyone you know, and show the 4 strokers that old school is best.
tommyapa 2 years ago
2 strokes is not oldschool! 2T is the fastest engine ever made... 4T is for "kids"
2T is the best!
varkow 2 years ago
@tommyapa 2 stroke smell awsome too.
LOL1994jake 1 year ago
@smoking4us well not since you cant buy 2 strokes due to that dirty basterd in the white house
vincent12225 1 year ago
@vincent12225
down here in the land of oz when can still buy 2 strokes ........
well at least yamaha and ktm and a few other euro manufacturers........
theres hope yet
smoking4us 1 year ago
@smoking4us yea u can still buy em its just yamaha and ktm arre the only big name companies still making them
Struck117 1 year ago
@smoking4us
Yes, the 2 Stroke returns in the time of low fuel consum and fuel saving! You are so right!
29manzglade 1 year ago
@smoking4us so..been a year..unless ur talkin bout ktm i dont see ur new 2 strokes anywhere/jk
vinnyEtv 8 months ago
@smoking4us True
Latinhas 7 months ago
@smoking4us only just now because of ktm
suzukiholdenman 7 months ago
Busa can only go good in a straight line .. their the muscle cars of bikes problem is they are japanese, japanese duno how to make muscle cars.
Sipifok 2 years ago
haha yeah japanese can't make muscle cars lol
TheBandit77TransAm 2 years ago
@ kj7687.i never seen a clock time on any of those vids.(no offense s&r).i seen different vid of a turbo busa run a 9.2.HA!a stock 07 gsxr will run 9.7 with a pipe and a sprocket.ive done it.u think that speed is accurate?i went down 1 tooth and my speedo said 170,gps said 140.which would u trust?if that busa is goin that fast it sure as hell dont have a stock sprocket therefore the speed is wrong.why would they fix the speedo if thats a track bike?funny bikes yes not a fn busa.
Bigjq2000 2 years ago
Whatever dude, go look it up. What I've said about Hayabusas is simple fact, not my fucking imagination. And I'm not going to waste my time arguing about it. But I will tell you type in "worlds quickest street bike" on YouTube. The third one in the list brings up a 7 second, 200 mph busa run. You can see the time on the time clock.
kj7687 2 years ago
haven't u ever heard the expression "dont believe everything u see on tv?" well, same goes for youtube. Ive seen many bikes run 7 seconds and faster in real life at our local strip. Lots of these bikes were driven to the track making them street bikes. Some bikes were not modified much either. Just to pour a little salt in the wound, I witnessed an Artic cat snowmobile eat 3 different Busas all in the same day.
LordSamuelJ 2 years ago
I agree the Busa is really really over hyped. I think people tend to think that because the bike can reach nearly 200mph, it can also go down a track faster than any other bike which is not true. There are lots of bikes faster than the Busa in a 1/4 mile. Some new some old. I just got done watching a video with a nearly stock 1970s Kawasaki H2 running the 1/4 in 8 seconds
LordSamuelJ 2 years ago
let me go into detail a little.... i think they suck because their too long.i like corners and i like to go to the strip but anyone can ride a built bike in a strait line. the thing about corners is every one of them is different.but to each his own......
Bigjq2000 2 years ago
@ kj7687 Well if a CBR 600 will absolutely destroy an old cr500 how do you recon a 1300 gixxer turbo (street setup) would go against say a new kx250 around an mx track?????
Sipifok 2 years ago
I PUT THIS ANGRY JAR OF BEES TOGETHER AND RACE IT IN A OPEN CLASS. THIS BIG BORE HAS NEVER GOT BEAT BY A CBR600R AND RACE MANY MODERN 600'S 4 STROKES. iT GETS HIGH 9'S ALL DAY LONG
tommyapa 2 years ago
@tommyapa lol dont get me wrong im for the 2 smokes all the way mate, i was replying to someone who thought cbr 600's beat the old 2 strokes even if it were true they made for dirt no street bike will ever win on the dirt anyway
Sipifok 1 year ago
lol
good luck on your cbr
smoking4us 2 years ago
Hey - Kj - Hayabusa 330kph in 7 seconds. sooo thats from 0 to 50km in 1 second......right! maybe 0-200km in 9 seconds
bushdog89 2 years ago
@bushdog89 FUCKING stupid ass youtube god damn it. I wrote a reply to your comment and it didn't fucking post. Fuck! Anwyay. amadragbike d-o-t - c-o- m. Read the text on the home page there. Also I know there are at least a couple videos on youtube of seven second, 200 mph street busas. I've seen them. I looked them up again right now but couldn't find them (don't remember the vid name) and don't want to spend the time to do that right now.
kj7687 2 years ago
Sorry to all you people that think two strokes are the fastest things on the planet. Sure, smaller bore two strokes will destroy smaller bore four strokes in straight line speed. But if you're comparing a CR500 to a MODERN big bore supersport... Sorry, but a stock CBR 600 (roughly 120 crank hp) will absolutely destroy a stock CR500 (around 60 hp). Not to mention CR500 versus a brand new 1000cc sport bike. Now if you're talking about built bikes, that's a different story.
kj7687 2 years ago
But if we ARE talking about BUILT bikes, then we can use a turbo Suzuki Hayabusa. Nothing is fucking faster than a highly modded and tuned turbo busa! Try seven seconds from a dead stop to 200 mph (not to mention that is a figure for a street legal motorcycle without a drag bar). I'd like to see your two stroke drag bike to even begin to compare with that figure!
kj7687 2 years ago
busas suck i wipe with em on my gsxr1000
Bigjq2000 2 years ago
7 secs to 200??? yeah right !!! 8.2 @ 155mph so you need to GUESS a little better son.
Bigjq2000 2 years ago
@Bigjq2000 Hey bigjq, maybe you should do a little research before you talk shit next time. There are videos on YouTube of 7 second, 200+ mph street legal turbo hayabusas. I've seen them. I don't remember the names of those vids or the tuning company that built the bikes. Read the text on the homepage of amadragbike d-o-t - c-o-m . Right now I can't find the ones I saw of the 200 plus runs, but if you youtube search for "S&R pro busa" you'll see a couple high 7 runs at close to 200.
kj7687 2 years ago
@kj7687 And they DO get faster than that, "son"...lol.
kj7687 2 years ago
@kj7687 ALRIGHT fuckers lol: I wanted to see it again myself so I spent a little time finding a couple of those videos. Here is one of them (copy and paste into the YouTube search bar): WORLDS QUICKEST STREETBIKE 7.13@201mph
kj7687 2 years ago
@Bigjq2000 yes the gixxer 1k is a very good drag bike; but its not accurate to say that "busas suck", just because you beat one or a few of them. With the difference in ET generally as minute as it is, the rider generally has more to do with it than the machine (so long as the machines are close).
kj7687 2 years ago
busas still suck.....
Bigjq2000 2 years ago
i've got an 86 yz 490 all juiced up and let me tell ya, theyll kick the shit out of any 4 stroke bike out there. ive never lost a straight line race on that bike.
kellycruz17 2 years ago 4
Triumph rocket
lumpybruisychickeny1 2 years ago
That is one bad-arse old airhammer! What's it do on the quarter?
Sounds like it's got an auto clutch, like a rekluse. Is there a link to the mods done on this bike?
thorndonpark 2 years ago
2 strokes and 4 strokes are way different, both are good, 125 2 strokes race 250 4 strokes, 250 2 strokes race 450 4 strokes and a 500 2 stroke will break the average rider very quickly!
sonerson83 2 years ago
i bet a 125 could beat a 1000 from the drop lol. or a 250. it's just the top end where a 2 stroke gets beat. but as a drag bike great run man looks way to fast for me. just wondering one thing. how did he keep the front wheel down?!! good vid
IceBladeJutsu 2 years ago
its the other way around. 2 strokes got the top end while the 4 stroke has the torque for the bottom end.
carsnwomen91 2 years ago
the smaller ones have the most power in the top rpms. 4 strokes have a more even power distribution and have more usable high rpms, where as 2 strokes power is almost totaly lost in the highest rpms.
but when 2 strokes are in the powerband they have the most torque, even more then any 4 stroke i know
IceBladeJutsu 2 years ago
2 strokes are better
junebugyz85 2 years ago
streebikes? no. dirbikes yes, but those 4 strokers are coming close. i prefer 2 stroke dirtbike cause i love the 2 stroke tune :cracklin cylinder! but the 4 strokes have the torque, i don't care lol i just pull clutch and rev then let go. 4 stroke dirbikes require same amount of maintenance as 2 strokes. u have to change oil (engine tranny as one) and oil filter while the 2 stroke only tranny oil and add oil to gas. the require the same amount of rebuilds too. 2/4 stroke dirtbikes,jus preferance
carsnwomen91 2 years ago
WHOO go 2 strokes.fuckers a beast lol
dylanmartin99 2 years ago
same as the 2 stroke rg500 i used 2 have one of them and it was putting out 101hp to the back wheel god i miss the smell of a good 2 stroker!!!
razza219 2 years ago 3
2 stroke power....
they will smoke every four-strokes user's ass
all day!!!!
2 strokes DOMINATE!!!!!!!!!!!!
TagumTrailRider 2 years ago 4
not rele 2 strokes suck on most tracks now adays
yz250frider1 2 years ago
i have a '87 490......
490=DEATH
lol
always how you feel on it. no comfort zone, cept with the clutch pulled
halochad 2 years ago
Fuck ya massive two strokes, i've ridden two and fours and two beats the shit out of 4 any day.
moppymcjones 2 years ago 5
no way
kev22bmx 2 years ago
power to weight ratio is why it won.
ShadowdogKGB 2 years ago
2 stroke POWER!!! FOREVER
Sadprince298 2 years ago 22
2T POWER!!
desliza 2 years ago 3
2T POWER!!
desliza 2 years ago 2
2t POWER!!
desliza 2 years ago 2
sweet baby jesus
78NELSON78 3 years ago
HAHA HA AH!!! sweet baby jesus.
KartRacer695 2 years ago 3
A very angry jar of bees!!! Ahhh the two stroke sting!!!
wheyez 3 years ago
power to weight ratio, baby. this is why i love 2 strokes. pound for pound, size for size, a 4 stroke can't match a 2 stroke in power. why do you think it takes a 450cc 4 stroke to compete with a 250cc 2 stroke.
Ireg2post1 3 years ago
haha....four strokes suck cock.
keithketola 3 years ago
Big Bore 2 Strokes can smoke almost anything. I have a Tricked out 82 IT 465j fully restored except 4 new plastic. Should see the pics...
McclairityOutlaws465 3 years ago
How about u post the fucking pictures u god dam panzi and keep talking shit u know a fucking CRF450 with fuel injection would kill that fucking thing no problem.......but so would my F18 fighter jet......buts shit the crf kills that....BITCH!!!!!!
0osomerandomguy 3 years ago
no it doesnt you idiot , i own a crf450 and its nothing compared to a yz490 or a cr500.
Xy2kBloodX 3 years ago
nope your wrong end of story faggot
0osomerandomguy 3 years ago
grow up kid , have fun riding a pister pro little boy.
Xy2kBloodX 3 years ago 2
i will go and grow up once u start suckin my cock because big boar 2 strokes can go fuck off because they blow and are weak.... and have nothing compared to the new 4strokes with the engined maped out BITCH!
0osomerandomguy 2 years ago
engine maped out yeah ok bud cr 500 will blow away any big bore 4 stroke out there....
walston410 2 years ago
Umm yeah answer me this is cr500 kx500 and yz490 are SUCH AWSOME BIKES!!!! then y dont they make them anymore ????? is it because they suck are heavy and New technology has made them obsolete? yeah ansere that you gereatric fuck
0osomerandomguy 2 years ago
no dude his bike wound give your bike anal rape on idle believe me
all fuel injection is, is shit
tomashcu60 2 years ago 8
Anyone know what a Kawa H2 is? Thats my dream 2-t
streetwiseburger 3 years ago
My father has an H2. 72 model I think it is. Still has the original tires on it and everything... ~5800 miles on it.
blackz06 3 years ago
Post a video of his bike. I have one too.
Ronadv1 3 years ago
2 strokes are superior. Period.
aaronrister 3 years ago
Haha this reminds me of when I got whooped by a 500cc Yamaha RD 2-stroker. I had my 01' Kawasaki ZX7R at the time. His bike sounded like a can full of bees and I laughed at him... then he left me in a cloud of smoke. Two strokes rule!
LordSamuelJ 3 years ago 5
Silence in Defeat, typical stuck up poser , pissed because they spent 7 grand on a four stroke... HAHA... go buy new vlaves after 17 hours, yeah, real reliable aint they ? keep throwing money at it, it'll still be junk with to many moving parts..........
groshbass 3 years ago 6
damn right
417ex 3 years ago
Finally, the arguement between two stroke and four stroke is over, read em and weep fourstroke lovers, your bikes are heavy and sluggish, theres no comparison in acceleration, so go take your fart machines and pound sand ! get it through your heads, your 450 is NOT an open bike, the factory's have brained washed you, so go buy some more graphics for your plastics, and leave the Big Bores for the MEN who have balls enough to ride em ! your DONE !
groshbass 3 years ago 5
over? please i could have beat him on a 250 4 stroke. sure id need just as many mods as that hunk of crap needed and by the way with a 36 tooth sprocket i wouldnt be god damn suprised it beat that other crappy rider on the street bike. both junk yamahas i bet.
heres a better comparison put a 36 tooth on my kx 450, with my pipe and jet ill whoop that things ass! the debate is over, out with the old (2 SMOKES) and in with the new (THUMPERS). ever heard of 13.0.1 compression?
you HAVENT 2 smoker
foxwhore 3 years ago
Ha Ha, the proof is right in front of you but your to thick to admit it, your 450 would get destroyed by the yzf 1000, let alone this rocket ship !
groshbass 3 years ago
besides that, if you read ? you can see that the Mods performed on this motor were quite minimal, I'm sure more time was spent fitting the motor in the frame.......
groshbass 3 years ago
i dont think so
gnarly17 3 years ago
Out with the old in with junk. You need twice the displacement with a 4 stroke just to be competitive against a 2 stroke. 2 Stroke is still king, don't let anyone deceive you.
watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0
watch?v=viWhxvo6DLk
Bulldog466 3 years ago
One 2t fan 2 another.
Those links are AMAZING!!!!! Have favorited both of those!
watch?v=MeRYbYNZ3Ck
999HitMan666 3 years ago
ur a funckin retard
417ex 3 years ago
dog wanker
rimmerthon1981 3 years ago
well said and i agree, 4 strokes can do just as good and sound a hell of alot better
caseywoods5 3 years ago
but they need x2 the cc's
carsnwomen91 3 years ago
well idk about the sound part.... and the "do just as good" part.
bcdrummer 3 years ago
they can do just as good, nobody gives 4 strokes the recognition they deserve, and the grunt sounds better than a jar full of bees
caseywoods5 3 years ago
yeah but when your out riding and you hear a cr500 rippin it. it sounds alot meaner than some 4 stroke. heheh i like the jar of bes thing.
bcdrummer 3 years ago 2
i don't like anything that sounds like bees because it just doesn't sound good to me
caseywoods5 3 years ago
bien por la yz es moto de verdad
123dfff 3 years ago
Exhaust and fuel chambers were openned up,head ported, KX500 vforce reed valve,36 tooth rear sprocket, runs with VP fuel, and a custom exhaust was specially made for it. Diego the rider is one of the best I've seen. Thanks for looking
tommyapa 3 years ago
now thats quicks!!!!!what was done to the motor????
mexmurrayrs 3 years ago
HA HA HA!..NICE!
dirtydogvideo 3 years ago