To all believers in God. Do not bother arguing with evolutionists as it is casting your pearls before swine. Their concsciences have been seared and their minds closed. Nothing written will change their hearts as this has been hardened. I was once a God hater until he called me. We are blessed for believing without seeing. The scoffers only wish to eliminate God in their lives to create a false world for themeselves with no sin or judgment. We will all stand before God's throne. Sine die.
@HashPappy4850 Atheists have opened their minds to everything, they're open minded and don't just believe everything they hear, unlike you. Telling us we're going to die wont help you, telling "believers" to ignore us doesn't prove the validity of what you believe and telling us were creating a false world certainly doesn't make any sense because its actually the opposite. Most atheists don't hate god we just don't see any evidence for him.
@leaf732 I used to be an evolutionist. You have opened your minds to everything but God. I did not say you were going to die, only the body dies the soul is eternal. I did not state to ignore you, only not to argue with you, and I did not state that to validate anything. The reason you do not see any evidence of him is because your minds have been corrupted. When you look at history it is the evolutionists who have perpetrated hoaxes in order to promote a lie, out of the pit of hell.
@HashPappy4850 From personal "testimony" (i know how you guys like that word). Ive been brought up in a very fundamental christian home, and for 12 years of my life as a minor i was enrolled in a private very conservative christian school. You don't think that i payed attention to god ONCE throughout all of high school elementary and middle school? I have contemplated the existence of god many times and have even believed in it before. Basically no I'm not closing my mind to god
Americans choose Christianity over Atheism, because its their culture. To say that "Christians are stupid", is very offensive and ignorant...You don't know someone until you meet them. You shouldn't judge by beliefs, but by actions...Their are many ways to interpret the Bible, and I don't believe this book opposes science, it only calls for human responsibility. People should be more responsible and more respectful towards each other.
Don't you find it funny they seem to spend more time contracting creation, rather than trying to prove their own theory? They also happend to leave out the fact that the bible has been found to be extremely accurate, just because something is old doesn't mean it's unreliable. Does anyone know of the dead sea scrolls? They're basically a hand written version of the bible that are like thousand years old, and they match the modern bible almost perfectly. Proving it's incredible accuracy.
@gumby2440 are you retarded, they are the original manuscript of course they match they dont proove anything, lots of other gospel didnt make it, right apocyphal gospel read st-thomas, read other story, jesus so called lost years, the bible isnt accurate on anything really, it was moraly wrong (killed people thatwork on sunday) scientificly completly wrong, and the version you learn is just the moderate one
To say that America was not founded as a Christian nation is ridiculous. Regardless of what it is today, it WAS founded as a Christian nation, whether the Atheists like it or not. Freedom to worship God was one of the biggest reasons people came in the first place. And Atheism should be considered a religion, because in truth, Atheism requires a lot more faith than Christianity. This is because they believe something as complex as a single cell could come together by chance.
@gumby2440 againt that old shit atheist a religion, it isnt, you morons, how many time do we have to explain this, if you dont beleive in santa, there is no words for it,
when it come to religion people get all hype up,
a lack of beleive isnt a beleive, you dont proove to people you dont beleive in santa, in the tooth ferry, unicorn, and the flying spagetti monster,
this is moronic, AND A CELL DIDNT APPEAR BY CHANCE!!! MY GOD YOU DONT UNDERSTAND EVOLUTION GO STUDY
@gumby2440 First of all it was freedom FROM religion, second, atheism isn't a religion because we don't believe in any gods, third, a single cell didn't come together by chance. You are using old arguments that don't hold up to any scrutiny, you have no idea how evolution works and honestly, how much better is it to believe you came from a rib? Yeah if you want me to ague like you do It's pretty easy to see how ridiculous your arguments are.
@gumby2440 'To say that America was not founded as a Christian nation is ridiculous.'
Except George Washington and John Adams declared that the USA was 'in no sense founded on the Christian religion'. Jefferson was also opposed to organized religion, as were most of the Founding Fathers.
I'd say they knew more about it that some ignorant, brainwashed, random retard like you on YouTube 300 years later.
@Tapil You clearly need to learn actual meanings or words and grammatical structure, before confusing modern ironic phrases that are actually false and said because of ... well irony. e.g " I have a habit of not smoking" actually makes no sense, but is said often, due to irony.
@Sethagrius Yet you have no idea what the word means yourself. The context you used it in gives me enough context clues to determine you are a fag. Behold Poetic Justice!
*Awaits so gay meme/all caps rage with curse words reply*
@Sethagrius "No point in wasting energy" You say this WHILE wasting energy on replying to my "pointless/worthless comment" Explain the logic? I sure dont see it and your still a newfag ▲
I can't believe I'm waisting my time on this video response... it seems so obvious that it's almost laughable to believe that out of the nearly 40K responses that no one has stated it, but then I remember that believing only seems easy... its actually the hardest thing to do... simple trust. The question is, "If you don't trust the government, why trust mainstream educators and education?" Obviously, they are both funded by the governments of the world.
So educated and fact based! The only argument you missed was the one even children ask and is by the number one argument ever! Try, "If there wasn't a Creator, how did matter for the Big Bang even come into being?" or, "Why are the laws of physics constant throughout the universe and/or where did they come from?" and lastly, "Evolutionists have absolutely no viable theory on how life started on Earth (yes, I know lighting striking primordial soup can create amino acids, but that's not a cell!
1.If c-14 dating is wrong all radiometric dating is wrong for the same reason they all use decay clocks. 2. the term evolution is ambiguous - some of its true, some of it can't be proven 3 straw man 4 fly's wing is irreducible complexity not the eye 5 straw man but look here: tinyurl . com / 83f26sm 6 Strawman - popular doens't mean right 7 Misdirection from abiogenesis 8 IDC 9 universe is a closed system 10 "I regard Christianity as the most fatal seductive lie that ever existed."~Adolf Hitler
Evolutionists use eevidence, they too have thrown out data that contrdicted with their beleif. Here's the kicker, if evolution is real in its entirety, what makes anyone beleive that it all occurred on this planet. Many anti-god scientists are just as closed minded as most creationists. Again if all these processes happened on this planet, where are all the missing links.
their answers to the questions are bad answers. relating the monkey questin to geographic exploration is an outright incorrect response to the question.
you can switch eyes with an octopus if you want but you'll go blind in a few days because the octopus eye is designed to let more light in because he lives in the water and water blocks Ultra Violet Light, humans live on land so they don't get the same eye protection so the human eye doesn't let more light in. They are not poorly designed, they are just designed specifically for our environment. same goes for owls (owls are nocturnal, they need to see in the dark).
@ItssBrian "Michael Behe is one of the biggest supporters of Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design = creation" => no, there is the standard creationism, and then there is theistic evolution. Michael Behe is the latter one. He made it very clear in his articles. Read them if you want. Don't just assume he is a creationist because he is against the standard model of evolution lol.
@humanityisdrowning it doesn't take faith to believe in evolution, it takes a thinking brain capable reason, and an evolutionary biology textbook. I have one I'm not using anymore if you would like to take a look, or just pay a quick visit to your local library. I'm sure they could help you out. Please take the time to educate yourself before commenting.
@tommotangmu Kudos to you for pointing out that this slime called creationists have a differing point of view. Thanks for pointing them to text books on evolution, as they should read one. I know for a fact the these books were all written by perfect men and have not changed one iota since the first type of this book was published. Whenever I discuss any opposing point of view, I know that it is wrong and mine is the only true on. You sir or mam have mastered ad hominem attacks.
@humanityisdrowning - Yes, because at imaginary supernatural being making a man out of mud like some voodoo doll, then creating woman from one of his ribs makes sooooo much more sense than evolution. Seriously? Why do I waste time replying to trolls, which you must be, because no one can be that fundamentally ignorant and still be able to operate a computer.
YOUTUBE ARE GOING DOWN in my opinion, they are about to jump ship on a scale un-precedented in INTERNET HISTORY. But beware the clone named zippcast it could be the new creation of the bastards that betrayed us namely google. New layout is rolled out on March 7th now...put the date back a few weeks and you have MARCH 21, 2012 or 21/03/2012. peace. Philip
@ridered300 Why isn't there enough brainwashing of children towards evolution? If this is how evolutionists debate, any creationist could win a debate with one.
@HashPappy4850 At least evolutionists have evidence for their argument, and it isn't brainwashing if you teach it as a theory, which is what my teachers did. I don't see how you can think a creationist could win that debate, evidence wins over faith in any example.
@ridered300 Wrong faith in the evidence that is given in the Holy Bible trumps any of your arguments. What you have fallen into is believing that one entepretation of evidence over is truth. Who knows what your teachers did, most probably HAD to teach it to get paid. Follow the money.
@Nemesis000000 Well, creationist generally use them in their arguments. Not every religious person argues for their religion. Some are happy saying "you may be right or wrong, but I'm happy believing what I believe."
@Nemesis000000 i guess they're talking more about fundamentalists. At the real end of the day god is attributed to the unknown and will always be so. no matter what question is posed, a new question will arise and god will be attributed as the answer. Take the big bang. Before the theory, god made the universe. After it... god made the big bang. And so on. therefor having a debate on it is impossible, for it will never be the matter discussed.
@problemnation Ye these people were mindless people who Believed and Did as the government told them. Just like Evolutionist today. The school system will tell them how this world were created, even tho they have no explanation.
Where did Energy come from ( knowing the laws of thermodynamics ) that states: Energy cannot be created or destroyed. They are teaching mindless children that All the energy in the world popped into existence breaking known laws of science.
@justwantahover, then I guess I'll just rot in the ground forever. My opinion won't matter and I'd be wrong. @GodspartOn, I think about it like this. What other incident in history has been better documented by as many sources? Until it's disproven, I choose to believe it. I don't know, I like to be an optimist. I'm not necessarily religious, but I like the whole heaven thing. Besides, who are we as humans to try and understand the divine. I believe that we cannot.
" Energy cannot be created or Destroyed " This means, Energy can't pop into existence.
At at one point, in time This law had to been broken, unless Their is no time, unless energy have been their " forever " and if it were their forever, we would not be here right now, Since you could go back in time forever.
The other option is, that The laws of thermodynamics were broken at one point, or that god Created everything.
@Elosization always ? so time is infinite, ? You cant fathom what your thinking.
If energy always existed we would not be on youtube right now, This moment would never come. Since forever implies you could go back in time Endlessly, then this moment would never come.
@Elosization Today you can see that time exist's and is chronological, We are all bound by time, Time is just as real as gravity and it's a Chronological timeline their is back and forth and time is going forwards clearly.
If energy had been their forever, then this moment would never occurred. Can't you understand this indisputable logic ?
So The argument " Energy has been their forever " is A fallacy, it had to have come from somewhere !
@mukkohaha "If energy had been their forever, then this moment would never occurred." Not at all. If we allow time to be infinite then this moment is one point on a line that goes on to +infinity and back to -infinity, like the number line. Thus you seem to be arguing that if the numbers strecth to infinity then 2 can't exist, which is nonsense.
@jez2718 You cant think at all, What you just said were the most nonsense i have ever heard. If their was no beginning of time, and we could travel backwards in time for infinity then this moment would never have occurred.
That's Logic your just not capable of grasping such simple things yet
If a number line is infinite, you could never Reach the last number, And right now We are in time at " the last number " present time, Which is impossible.
@mukkohaha We are not at the last number in time. If we were then there would be no time after this moment, and I doubt this is what you think. Suppose the take the origin of the universe to be our 0. Then our current time is ~13.7 billion (or 6,000 if you're a yec...) not infinity. The idea of time being infinite is you could go back in time as long as you wanted and never get to the beggining and you could go forwards in time and never reach the end.
@jez2718 Total energy of the universe is 0 ? hahahaha :D hahahah ^^ Whats then Powering the Sun ? I don't care if you say that Dark energy cancels out something, The sun sure ain't canceled out.
That were my last response to your stupidity - now go watch X-man evolution.
@mukkohaha Instead of laughing and misunderstanding the claim to mean that all bits of the universe have 0 energy when what it means is that the total energy of the entire universe adds up to 0, I would suggest you read the science. If you have a specific response to these then give it.
tinyurl(dot)com/638sc3 (NASA explaining the the global geometry of space time)
tinyurl(dot)com/88ooj3e (the data)
tinyurl(dot)com/7ukpwyp (a demonstration that a flat universe has 0 energy)
@Elosization And Expanding universe is no explanation for nothing by the way ...
even if the universe at one point fitted into 1 tiny spot, then that also implies that time is not infinite and at 1 point IN TIME big bang occurred, and this big bang required all the energy in the entire universe, Now where did this energy come from ?
if the energy were before that ? and you keep going with the " endless time " we would not be here right now.
@Elosization The current explanation is " we don't know " but the best theory so far is, that in a black hole The laws of the universe stops " and we don't know what happens " in this scenario therefor, anything could happen.
And a black hole sounds somewhat like big bang, incredibly densely packed matter and energy pressed together in a very very small space.
Perhaps one day science can explain this, but we ain't their yet :(
@mukkohaha Or that the total energy of the universe is 0 (which would occur if the negative energy from gravity exactly cancelled out the positive energy). This is what we observe as the universe has been measured to have 0 global curvature, see: tinyurl(dot)com/638sc3 and tinyurl(dot)com/88ooj3e
I am very grateful for this video, but I do have a criticism. The title refers to creationist arguments, but some of these (four by my count) are about theism vs. atheism, rather than creationism vs. evolution. I think it's important that we not conflate these two issues. Still, lots of great points, and well presented.
I do not believe in gravity or that matter is made of atoms. Since I have been unable to see this so called phenomena I think I shall be an gravatathiest or an atomatheiest. I see the effects of wind and it can be measured I just doubt that it exists, aeroatheist? I do believe in historical evoulutionary findings. Nebraska man, and Otega Benga. This is verifiable of the transitional life forms that creationist's characterize as hoaxex. Shame on them.
@dacdog114 My rule for religious people: Don't care how smart you are, you are automatically stupid. Do you really believe Jesus Christ rose from the dead? really? can you explain how that happened? LOL
4. Tetrachromat... google it. There are few humans that actually see colors normal humans cant see... and that's how evolution begins. Soooo... yeeeeeeeeeeeeah.
@LovelesEntertainment That hasn't even been confirmed in humans. Even if it did exist in humans it doesn't help. That's like saying "Some people are born with hereditary diseases and some aren't. Thus evolution." Or "Some are born with better eyesight than others. Thus evolution."
@ItssBrian ... do you even understand what evolution is? Evolution is any change across successive generations in the heritable characteristics of biological populations. Tetrachromacy isnt a "new" thing, but dropping that point tetrachromacy pretty much laughs in the face of "irreducible complexity". It is super rare that tetrachromats are born, but it does happen every blue moon. It does exist in humans (albeit rare) and you denying it because you cant understand it wont change it.
@LovelesEntertainment Equivocation. We're not discussing the "evolution" that is equal to change. Were discussing Darwinian evolution that proposes one species can change to another. And tetrachromacy has NOT been fully verified in humans. It's unknown if the optic nerve can even transmit the information, or how the brain would react given the information. Also, tetrachroamcy has nothing to do with irreducible complexity. Don't say it does because you can't understand I.C.
@ItssBrian Michael Behe, the guy who basically coined the term "irreducible complexity" is actually an evolutionist (or theistic evolutionist, to be more exact). So if you really want to support the concept of IC, then technically you should embrace evolution theory. Cherry-picking ideas from IC and use that to support creationism is a big no-no lol
@Casshyr What are you talking about. Michael Behe is one of the biggest supporters of Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design = creation. The only difference is that it uses less specific terms.
@johhnycarlos Aww, are you so afraid of mean old death that you think atheists are cowards? Does ants stop living life and working toward the advancement of their society just because they will eventually die? Are you saying that humans are a weak-willed that fall short of a common insect? Self-defeating my ass... cower in the corner and let the men live life while you tear up afraid of your inevitable demise. I stopped being scared of death around 15.
This is such a ridiculous video, I don't even know where to start. The questions he is putting forward as the "favourite" creationist arguments are, yes, very stupid. However, you wouldn't expect to hear them from any thinking or even marginally intelligent theists. It's easy to make a video refuting something when you're only taking the very worst of the argument from that side, try harder.
@toastyman111 The young earth creationists' weakest argument is that the radioactive decay is not constant (and nuclear plants won't work unless it is constant). This proves that it's been constant for the last 60 yrs. So common sense and the physical laws say it's constant. Saying it's not constant (to fit a young earth) only leads to more problems. It would have to have been accelerated in the past (before the last 60 years) by a factor of at least 750,000 times more intense!
@toastyman111 The RATE team are (mainstream) rock scientists, dating rock. They go along with the data (but don't believe it) because they are yecs. The rate team are yecs and mainstream scientists (and are highly regarded by other yecs) and so the yecs agree with them. But the RATE team say that the r-decay is reasonably sound (except there was an acceleration, during the flood). So the RATE team are indicating that (if there was no acceleration of r-decay) the world must be old.
@toastyman111 This is the very worst of cr arguments because they fudge an acceleration to explain the vast difference in earth age. The simple nature of this argument makes common sense debunk it straight-away. So the RATE team scower the rocks (in their spare time) to look for clues of an acceleration. Read "Thousands Not Billions" by Dr Don De Young, Master Books. (p 151-152). I love the RATE team as they make it clear to you that our dating system is sound. Will science believe acceleration?
@toastyman111 "he is putting forward as the 'favourite' creatioist arguments are yes, very stupid. However, you wouldn't expect to hear them from any thinking or even marginally intelligent theists". (40% don't think) Yecs are't thinking or marginally intelligent.
@Justwantahover 40%? What figure is that? And I'm not referring to Yecs exclusively, I'm referring to those who in believe in God in general. Even then, there are plenty of Yecs who are a thousand times more intelligent that you, of that I'm sure.
@floydstephman - Hardly. I'm like Jefferson - one god or twenty gods. Makes no difference to me. Until...
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fundamentalist fuckwads want to steal my tax dollars to teach my kids their delusions in science class and rewrite the Constitution to read like Leviticus. The governor of Kentucky wants to pay for a $43 million tax break to a creationist theme park with a $50 million cut to education. Yes, I'll argue against that kind of crap.
@47f0 Actually your point is the only point worth making here. So, silly this battle to rationalize this whole creator of the universe stuff or not. It was created...get over it. We are trying to find out WHAT did it and we will continue to do that.
@47f0 "the one god or twenty gods. Makes no difference to me. Until..." ("I don't mind what people believe as long as it does not affect me") attitude won't do. Those 93% of leading scientists rejecting the god hypothesis -good- but who are they? Why are they anonymous? They should speak out! We all should! Beliefs held against contrary evidence benefit no one -not the individual; not civilization. Bullshit is bullshit whether it's gay bashing, racism or godbothering. Always Call It!
@fctchk evidence is different from proof, just so we are clear. Skid marks on a highway are evidence. They don't prove it was Elvis driving Michael Jackson to McCauley Culkin's house for a sleep over.
Why? I'm rather grateful to live in a nation where people can have their own beliefs - until those beliefs based on fantasy affect public policy. Then I'm a loudmouth, but I'm really not interested in being the thought police, and creating a monolithic Borg of identical clone citizens, and I think there is actually some social strength in a certain diversity of thought and the resulting dialogue.
Some parents believe that their children's genitals need to be mutilated? Fine. As long, as it does not become public policy and affect my children. And, I'm rather grateful because it shows that thanks to me not being the thought police, I have avoided creating a monolithic society of identical clone citizens who all believe children should not be abused, and I think there is actually some social strength in a certain diversity of thought and the resulting dialogue.
@floydstephman - Okay - but please - always check things out for yourself. "Arks Encounter" theme park, sponsored by Answers in Genesis is getting roughly the same amount in tax breaks that Gov. Steve Beshear is slashing from education..
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But my problem is you. So-called "moderate" people of faith are the platform on which fundamentalists and extremists stand - after all, how is your belief without evidence in any way different from theirs?
@47f0 I am upset once I read your statement. I agree that education should be cut much deeper. The whole system is a bottomless money pit without any success in teaching. Money does not equal good education in the public sector, kudos to you.
No evidence here, just your arguments. Not convincing. Your numbers are are just hotbeds. Thermodynamics? like that's a disproving god. As if you could create life from the hostile, non-living environment of earth 4 billion years ago. What about the current and incorrect teaching of evolution?
@LordBlk Why can'y u accept evolution and say God did it. Surely God could do it! So it's Magic but not like; "pow"! there's a cow and "pow"! there's a horse! Which is more feasible?
@magicgirl114 I belive in science (and that we are bound by the physical laws). I had some faith in Jesus but then I read the Bible and I lost my faith because of all the witchcraft in the Bibie. What physical laws does Aaron's (stick turning into a snake) follow? (Harry Potter laws.)
I don't disagree with anything in this video and did find it entertaining.
Does it prove to me that God doesn't exist?
No, not really.
It does successfully prove that many of my fellow "christians" talk out their ass a lot but I already knew that much. All the same, it's a good video with a good amount of snark with its information.
@JayWolf1985 I'll prove to You that God doesn't exist! (just a bit of twisted fun). God can do anything and there is nothing God can't do! This debunks God because it says that God can lie, God can (not exist) and can exist and not exist at the same time!
We are here, therefore God exists. God can't lie, so God is not omnipotent and therefore doesn't exist. So we can now say: God can't lie, so we don't exist!
@Thezaurus17 I agree, and so are these youtube videos from folks who pat themselves on the back for coming to the easiest conclusion in the world, and behaving like they are are taking some impressive intellectual stance by doing it, and that they are "winning" an easy debate with people who are not going to be swayed anyway. It's stupid to occupy yourself with. These videos are just as fucking stupid.
@aeneas123 That is my point. Arguing about creationism is setting the bar unbelievably low for yourself. I am an atheist, but I don't identify with it as a stance because it is a useless debate to take part in.
@orazdow Yes. But you know, that magic sky daddy you have watching you take showers is pretty cool. All that genocide, pedophilia, rape, slavery, child murder, etc etc. That's some pretty awesome stuff too.
@IOutDoSyndicate No, you don't understand I am an atheist. I just think that congratulating yourself for being on the right side of such an obvious debate, and occupying yourself with watching or making these videos is just as idiotic as believing in creationism. Why not set the bar higher for yourself?
@IOutDoSyndicate No, you don't understand I am an atheist. I just think that congratulating yourself for being on the right side of such an obvious debate, and occupying yourself with watching or making these videos is just as idiotic as believing in creationism. Why not set the bar higher for yourself?
@EinSofQuester I would suspect there is a bias towards fundamentalists as they feel confident enough to post their claims. So probably not, hard to tell.
Way to twist facts. Just cause you say it doesn't make it true. The only founder in that list that was atheist was Thomas Paine. Ben Franklin believed in God aka deist. Thomas Jefferson was a Unitarian Christian (Only believed in God the Father, not Jesus as God). James Madison, George Washington & John Adams were solidly Christians.
To all believers in God. Do not bother arguing with evolutionists as it is casting your pearls before swine. Their concsciences have been seared and their minds closed. Nothing written will change their hearts as this has been hardened. I was once a God hater until he called me. We are blessed for believing without seeing. The scoffers only wish to eliminate God in their lives to create a false world for themeselves with no sin or judgment. We will all stand before God's throne. Sine die.
HashPappy4850 3 hours ago
@HashPappy4850 Atheists have opened their minds to everything, they're open minded and don't just believe everything they hear, unlike you. Telling us we're going to die wont help you, telling "believers" to ignore us doesn't prove the validity of what you believe and telling us were creating a false world certainly doesn't make any sense because its actually the opposite. Most atheists don't hate god we just don't see any evidence for him.
leaf732 2 hours ago
@leaf732 I used to be an evolutionist. You have opened your minds to everything but God. I did not say you were going to die, only the body dies the soul is eternal. I did not state to ignore you, only not to argue with you, and I did not state that to validate anything. The reason you do not see any evidence of him is because your minds have been corrupted. When you look at history it is the evolutionists who have perpetrated hoaxes in order to promote a lie, out of the pit of hell.
HashPappy4850 2 hours ago
@HashPappy4850 From personal "testimony" (i know how you guys like that word). Ive been brought up in a very fundamental christian home, and for 12 years of my life as a minor i was enrolled in a private very conservative christian school. You don't think that i payed attention to god ONCE throughout all of high school elementary and middle school? I have contemplated the existence of god many times and have even believed in it before. Basically no I'm not closing my mind to god
leaf732 1 hour ago
@leaf732 I doubt your veracity and do not know what you did it school.
HashPappy4850 1 hour ago
Americans choose Christianity over Atheism, because its their culture. To say that "Christians are stupid", is very offensive and ignorant...You don't know someone until you meet them. You shouldn't judge by beliefs, but by actions...Their are many ways to interpret the Bible, and I don't believe this book opposes science, it only calls for human responsibility. People should be more responsible and more respectful towards each other.
12whitetribes 3 hours ago
Don't you find it funny they seem to spend more time contracting creation, rather than trying to prove their own theory? They also happend to leave out the fact that the bible has been found to be extremely accurate, just because something is old doesn't mean it's unreliable. Does anyone know of the dead sea scrolls? They're basically a hand written version of the bible that are like thousand years old, and they match the modern bible almost perfectly. Proving it's incredible accuracy.
gumby2440 8 hours ago
@gumby2440 are you retarded, they are the original manuscript of course they match they dont proove anything, lots of other gospel didnt make it, right apocyphal gospel read st-thomas, read other story, jesus so called lost years, the bible isnt accurate on anything really, it was moraly wrong (killed people thatwork on sunday) scientificly completly wrong, and the version you learn is just the moderate one
lapmarty 7 hours ago
To say that America was not founded as a Christian nation is ridiculous. Regardless of what it is today, it WAS founded as a Christian nation, whether the Atheists like it or not. Freedom to worship God was one of the biggest reasons people came in the first place. And Atheism should be considered a religion, because in truth, Atheism requires a lot more faith than Christianity. This is because they believe something as complex as a single cell could come together by chance.
gumby2440 8 hours ago
@gumby2440 againt that old shit atheist a religion, it isnt, you morons, how many time do we have to explain this, if you dont beleive in santa, there is no words for it,
when it come to religion people get all hype up,
a lack of beleive isnt a beleive, you dont proove to people you dont beleive in santa, in the tooth ferry, unicorn, and the flying spagetti monster,
this is moronic, AND A CELL DIDNT APPEAR BY CHANCE!!! MY GOD YOU DONT UNDERSTAND EVOLUTION GO STUDY
lapmarty 7 hours ago
@gumby2440 First of all it was freedom FROM religion, second, atheism isn't a religion because we don't believe in any gods, third, a single cell didn't come together by chance. You are using old arguments that don't hold up to any scrutiny, you have no idea how evolution works and honestly, how much better is it to believe you came from a rib? Yeah if you want me to ague like you do It's pretty easy to see how ridiculous your arguments are.
italyguy08 7 hours ago
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@gumby2440 'To say that America was not founded as a Christian nation is ridiculous.'
Except George Washington and John Adams declared that the USA was 'in no sense founded on the Christian religion'. Jefferson was also opposed to organized religion, as were most of the Founding Fathers.
I'd say they knew more about it that some ignorant, brainwashed, random retard like you on YouTube 300 years later.
DocReasonable 5 hours ago
Agreed with everything cept #5 wtf?
"Like not smoking is a habit"
>Yeah dumbass i have a HABIT of NOT SMOKING
>I have a HOBBY of NOT collecting stamps.
Anyways...
Tapil 1 day ago
@Tapil It was sarcasm.
PDXpsych 23 hours ago
@Tapil You clearly need to learn actual meanings or words and grammatical structure, before confusing modern ironic phrases that are actually false and said because of ... well irony. e.g " I have a habit of not smoking" actually makes no sense, but is said often, due to irony.
Sethagrius 18 hours ago
@Sethagrius Yet you have no idea what the word means yourself. The context you used it in gives me enough context clues to determine you are a fag. Behold Poetic Justice!
*Awaits so gay meme/all caps rage with curse words reply*
Tapil 7 hours ago
@Tapil No you are just worthless. No point in wasting my energy. Well done you've boyed me off :)
Sethagrius 5 hours ago
@Sethagrius "No point in wasting energy" You say this WHILE wasting energy on replying to my "pointless/worthless comment" Explain the logic? I sure dont see it and your still a newfag ▲
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Tapil 2 hours ago
I can't believe I'm waisting my time on this video response... it seems so obvious that it's almost laughable to believe that out of the nearly 40K responses that no one has stated it, but then I remember that believing only seems easy... its actually the hardest thing to do... simple trust. The question is, "If you don't trust the government, why trust mainstream educators and education?" Obviously, they are both funded by the governments of the world.
wggreeneiii 1 day ago
When you start to think and gain information, thats when religion steps aside.
dkthg 1 day ago
So educated and fact based! The only argument you missed was the one even children ask and is by the number one argument ever! Try, "If there wasn't a Creator, how did matter for the Big Bang even come into being?" or, "Why are the laws of physics constant throughout the universe and/or where did they come from?" and lastly, "Evolutionists have absolutely no viable theory on how life started on Earth (yes, I know lighting striking primordial soup can create amino acids, but that's not a cell!
MCtotheJ 1 day ago
ShawnSwander 1 day ago
Very nice job. Nicely constructed video. Thumbs up!
drjrich222 1 day ago
Evolutionists use eevidence, they too have thrown out data that contrdicted with their beleif. Here's the kicker, if evolution is real in its entirety, what makes anyone beleive that it all occurred on this planet. Many anti-god scientists are just as closed minded as most creationists. Again if all these processes happened on this planet, where are all the missing links.
TheSleepingbandit 1 day ago
@TheSleepingbandit That's as dumb as it is illiterate.
drjrich222 1 day ago
their answers to the questions are bad answers. relating the monkey questin to geographic exploration is an outright incorrect response to the question.
TheSleepingbandit 1 day ago
@TheSleepingbandit Feel the same way, they should have just pointed out the cromagnums and homosapiens aspect instead
Tapil 1 day ago
I belive in evolution and God.
animaljp3 1 day ago
@animaljp3 You can't worship two gods.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@HashPappy4850 Sure you can, the Greeks and Egyptians worshiped a lot more than two.
ridered300 1 day ago
@ridered300 Oh I know that, and they were severly disciplined for doing so.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@HashPappy4850 How were they punished?
ridered300 1 day ago
@HashPappy4850 evolution is a PROCESS. you are ignorant, therefor you do not believe in evolution
animaljp3 1 day ago
carbon dating isnt accurate for the age of earth because it decays so quickly. other types can be of, but not millions, or billions
animaljp3 1 day ago
you can switch eyes with an octopus if you want but you'll go blind in a few days because the octopus eye is designed to let more light in because he lives in the water and water blocks Ultra Violet Light, humans live on land so they don't get the same eye protection so the human eye doesn't let more light in. They are not poorly designed, they are just designed specifically for our environment. same goes for owls (owls are nocturnal, they need to see in the dark).
mikezzknight 1 day ago
omfg thethinking athiest should be a tv show :')
shiftdrive81 1 day ago
@shiftdrive81 Yes it could be aired immediately following "Our frugal U.S. government."
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
There's no such thing as an atheist , nobody is that stupid .
mollymu1 1 day ago
@mollymu1 There's no such thing as a mollymu1, nobody is that stupid.
Mayhamsdead 1 day ago
@ItssBrian "Michael Behe is one of the biggest supporters of Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design = creation" => no, there is the standard creationism, and then there is theistic evolution. Michael Behe is the latter one. He made it very clear in his articles. Read them if you want. Don't just assume he is a creationist because he is against the standard model of evolution lol.
Casshyr 1 day ago
It takes more faith to believe in evolution than any other world view
humanityisdrowning 1 day ago
@humanityisdrowning it doesn't take faith to believe in evolution, it takes a thinking brain capable reason, and an evolutionary biology textbook. I have one I'm not using anymore if you would like to take a look, or just pay a quick visit to your local library. I'm sure they could help you out. Please take the time to educate yourself before commenting.
tommotangmu 1 day ago
@tommotangmu Kudos to you for pointing out that this slime called creationists have a differing point of view. Thanks for pointing them to text books on evolution, as they should read one. I know for a fact the these books were all written by perfect men and have not changed one iota since the first type of this book was published. Whenever I discuss any opposing point of view, I know that it is wrong and mine is the only true on. You sir or mam have mastered ad hominem attacks.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@humanityisdrowning - Yes, because at imaginary supernatural being making a man out of mud like some voodoo doll, then creating woman from one of his ribs makes sooooo much more sense than evolution. Seriously? Why do I waste time replying to trolls, which you must be, because no one can be that fundamentally ignorant and still be able to operate a computer.
47f0 1 day ago
@47f0 I agree making man out of slime is much more sane.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@HashPappy4850 only uneducated people in science think man is made out of slime.
Casshyr 1 day ago
@Casshyr Thank you for setting the benchmark for all scientists.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
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philipsmovies 1 day ago
I think this video should be shown in every school.
ridered300 1 day ago
@ridered300 Why isn't there enough brainwashing of children towards evolution? If this is how evolutionists debate, any creationist could win a debate with one.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@HashPappy4850 At least evolutionists have evidence for their argument, and it isn't brainwashing if you teach it as a theory, which is what my teachers did. I don't see how you can think a creationist could win that debate, evidence wins over faith in any example.
ridered300 1 day ago
@ridered300 Wrong faith in the evidence that is given in the Holy Bible trumps any of your arguments. What you have fallen into is believing that one entepretation of evidence over is truth. Who knows what your teachers did, most probably HAD to teach it to get paid. Follow the money.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
Nice list but some of those aren't creationist arguments, but general religious arguments for God or against atheism
Nemesis000000 1 day ago
@Nemesis000000 Well, creationist generally use them in their arguments. Not every religious person argues for their religion. Some are happy saying "you may be right or wrong, but I'm happy believing what I believe."
ridered300 1 day ago
@Nemesis000000 i guess they're talking more about fundamentalists. At the real end of the day god is attributed to the unknown and will always be so. no matter what question is posed, a new question will arise and god will be attributed as the answer. Take the big bang. Before the theory, god made the universe. After it... god made the big bang. And so on. therefor having a debate on it is impossible, for it will never be the matter discussed.
TheMajinTrunks 1 day ago
@TheMajinTrunks No such ententity as a fundamentalist, therefore your comments are null and void from the beginning.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@HashPappy4850 I meant the video refers tries to disprove the fundamentalist god. What i said had to do with deism.
TheMajinTrunks 1 day ago
@TheMajinTrunks Do you agree that deists believe in God?
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@HashPappy4850 Deists believe in a Creator, most will say it isn't anything like the Judeo-Christian God.
ridered300 1 day ago
@ridered300 I don't believe you.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@HashPappy4850 nop. they believe in god.
TheMajinTrunks 1 day ago
Hitler never killed anyone, he ordered others to kill, these people were predominantly christian and gleefully complied.
problemnation 2 days ago
@problemnation Ye these people were mindless people who Believed and Did as the government told them. Just like Evolutionist today. The school system will tell them how this world were created, even tho they have no explanation.
Where did Energy come from ( knowing the laws of thermodynamics ) that states: Energy cannot be created or destroyed. They are teaching mindless children that All the energy in the world popped into existence breaking known laws of science.
mukkohaha 1 day ago
@problemnation No the people were prominently humanist who took an oath to a human. Wrong again.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@problemnation Hitler had quite a list of people he murdered personally.
HashPappy4850 22 hours ago
The current pope was a Nazi
elite714 2 days ago
@elite714 The pope is not Christian.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@justwantahover, then I guess I'll just rot in the ground forever. My opinion won't matter and I'd be wrong. @GodspartOn, I think about it like this. What other incident in history has been better documented by as many sources? Until it's disproven, I choose to believe it. I don't know, I like to be an optimist. I'm not necessarily religious, but I like the whole heaven thing. Besides, who are we as humans to try and understand the divine. I believe that we cannot.
dacdog114 2 days ago
One of the Laws of Thermodynamics states
" Energy cannot be created or Destroyed " This means, Energy can't pop into existence.
At at one point, in time This law had to been broken, unless Their is no time, unless energy have been their " forever " and if it were their forever, we would not be here right now, Since you could go back in time forever.
The other option is, that The laws of thermodynamics were broken at one point, or that god Created everything.
mukkohaha 2 days ago
@mukkohaha
Or that energy always existed...
Elosization 2 days ago
@Elosization always ? so time is infinite, ? You cant fathom what your thinking.
If energy always existed we would not be on youtube right now, This moment would never come. Since forever implies you could go back in time Endlessly, then this moment would never come.
Simple logic.
mukkohaha 2 days ago
@Elosization Today you can see that time exist's and is chronological, We are all bound by time, Time is just as real as gravity and it's a Chronological timeline their is back and forth and time is going forwards clearly.
If energy had been their forever, then this moment would never occurred. Can't you understand this indisputable logic ?
So The argument " Energy has been their forever " is A fallacy, it had to have come from somewhere !
mukkohaha 2 days ago
@mukkohaha "If energy had been their forever, then this moment would never occurred." Not at all. If we allow time to be infinite then this moment is one point on a line that goes on to +infinity and back to -infinity, like the number line. Thus you seem to be arguing that if the numbers strecth to infinity then 2 can't exist, which is nonsense.
jez2718 1 day ago
@jez2718 You cant think at all, What you just said were the most nonsense i have ever heard. If their was no beginning of time, and we could travel backwards in time for infinity then this moment would never have occurred.
That's Logic your just not capable of grasping such simple things yet
If a number line is infinite, you could never Reach the last number, And right now We are in time at " the last number " present time, Which is impossible.
mukkohaha 1 day ago
@mukkohaha We are not at the last number in time. If we were then there would be no time after this moment, and I doubt this is what you think. Suppose the take the origin of the universe to be our 0. Then our current time is ~13.7 billion (or 6,000 if you're a yec...) not infinity. The idea of time being infinite is you could go back in time as long as you wanted and never get to the beggining and you could go forwards in time and never reach the end.
jez2718 16 hours ago
@jez2718 Total energy of the universe is 0 ? hahahaha :D hahahah ^^ Whats then Powering the Sun ? I don't care if you say that Dark energy cancels out something, The sun sure ain't canceled out.
That were my last response to your stupidity - now go watch X-man evolution.
mukkohaha 1 day ago
@mukkohaha Instead of laughing and misunderstanding the claim to mean that all bits of the universe have 0 energy when what it means is that the total energy of the entire universe adds up to 0, I would suggest you read the science. If you have a specific response to these then give it.
tinyurl(dot)com/638sc3 (NASA explaining the the global geometry of space time)
tinyurl(dot)com/88ooj3e (the data)
tinyurl(dot)com/7ukpwyp (a demonstration that a flat universe has 0 energy)
jez2718 16 hours ago
@jez2718 interesting, ill check it out.
mukkohaha 13 hours ago
@Elosization Just like if Space is endless you can never travel to the end.
If time is endless both forth and back, this moment would never have occurred, we are here now clearly. So time is not endless backwards.
Please give me your thoughts on this, if you have something i have overseen.
mukkohaha 2 days ago
@Elosization And Expanding universe is no explanation for nothing by the way ...
even if the universe at one point fitted into 1 tiny spot, then that also implies that time is not infinite and at 1 point IN TIME big bang occurred, and this big bang required all the energy in the entire universe, Now where did this energy come from ?
if the energy were before that ? and you keep going with the " endless time " we would not be here right now.
mukkohaha 2 days ago
@Elosization The current explanation is " we don't know " but the best theory so far is, that in a black hole The laws of the universe stops " and we don't know what happens " in this scenario therefor, anything could happen.
And a black hole sounds somewhat like big bang, incredibly densely packed matter and energy pressed together in a very very small space.
Perhaps one day science can explain this, but we ain't their yet :(
mukkohaha 2 days ago
@mukkohaha Or that the total energy of the universe is 0 (which would occur if the negative energy from gravity exactly cancelled out the positive energy). This is what we observe as the universe has been measured to have 0 global curvature, see: tinyurl(dot)com/638sc3 and tinyurl(dot)com/88ooj3e
jez2718 1 day ago
I am very grateful for this video, but I do have a criticism. The title refers to creationist arguments, but some of these (four by my count) are about theism vs. atheism, rather than creationism vs. evolution. I think it's important that we not conflate these two issues. Still, lots of great points, and well presented.
ssppeellll 2 days ago
This is like a childrens show none of the prove is even logical, how can evolution be noticed now? Lol this is too stupid
thesomebody3 2 days ago
About 3.... The humans didnt evolve from modern day monkeys at all though, so the question is double nonsense.
KarstenOkk 2 days ago
I do not believe in gravity or that matter is made of atoms. Since I have been unable to see this so called phenomena I think I shall be an gravatathiest or an atomatheiest. I see the effects of wind and it can be measured I just doubt that it exists, aeroatheist? I do believe in historical evoulutionary findings. Nebraska man, and Otega Benga. This is verifiable of the transitional life forms that creationist's characterize as hoaxex. Shame on them.
HashPappy4850 2 days ago
god created everything around us...!
TheYouwontgetit 2 days ago
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@TheYouwontgetit " god created everything around us...! ":
Which god?
AmunRaRocks 2 days ago
Preaching to the choir
SaneLunacy 2 days ago
Horrible response to horrible questions.
super1commenter 2 days ago
Thoroughly entertaining.
Trimere 2 days ago
The only reason I identify as a Christian is because Jesus Christ rose from the dead.
dacdog114 2 days ago
@dacdog114 What if he didn't?
Justwantahover 2 days ago
@dacdog114 My rule for religious people: Don't care how smart you are, you are automatically stupid. Do you really believe Jesus Christ rose from the dead? really? can you explain how that happened? LOL
Godspart0n 2 days ago
@LovelesEntertainment Lol Internet tough guy routine huh? And 15 was what, a year ago for you?
johhnycarlos 3 days ago
@johhnycarlos Tough guy? Don't whine when you make a stupid comment and people call you out for it.
LovelesEntertainment 2 days ago
Number 8 is a little misleading.
cdog4100 3 days ago
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In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful (1)
Say: He is Allah, the One! (1)
Allah, the eternally Besought of all! (2)
He begetteth not nor was begotten. (3)
And there is none comparable unto Him. (4)
alqarhi100 3 days ago
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alqarhi100 3 days ago
@ItssBrian
4. Tetrachromat... google it. There are few humans that actually see colors normal humans cant see... and that's how evolution begins. Soooo... yeeeeeeeeeeeeah.
LovelesEntertainment 3 days ago
@LovelesEntertainment That hasn't even been confirmed in humans. Even if it did exist in humans it doesn't help. That's like saying "Some people are born with hereditary diseases and some aren't. Thus evolution." Or "Some are born with better eyesight than others. Thus evolution."
ItssBrian 2 days ago
@ItssBrian ... do you even understand what evolution is? Evolution is any change across successive generations in the heritable characteristics of biological populations. Tetrachromacy isnt a "new" thing, but dropping that point tetrachromacy pretty much laughs in the face of "irreducible complexity". It is super rare that tetrachromats are born, but it does happen every blue moon. It does exist in humans (albeit rare) and you denying it because you cant understand it wont change it.
LovelesEntertainment 2 days ago
@LovelesEntertainment Equivocation. We're not discussing the "evolution" that is equal to change. Were discussing Darwinian evolution that proposes one species can change to another. And tetrachromacy has NOT been fully verified in humans. It's unknown if the optic nerve can even transmit the information, or how the brain would react given the information. Also, tetrachroamcy has nothing to do with irreducible complexity. Don't say it does because you can't understand I.C.
ItssBrian 2 days ago
@ItssBrian Michael Behe, the guy who basically coined the term "irreducible complexity" is actually an evolutionist (or theistic evolutionist, to be more exact). So if you really want to support the concept of IC, then technically you should embrace evolution theory. Cherry-picking ideas from IC and use that to support creationism is a big no-no lol
Casshyr 2 days ago
@Casshyr By that logic, if you believe in pasteurization you have to be a creationist because Louis Pasteur was.
ItssBrian 2 days ago
@ItssBrian No, but to use ideas of IC and use that to support creationism is wrong.
Casshyr 2 days ago
@Casshyr What are you talking about. Michael Behe is one of the biggest supporters of Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design = creation. The only difference is that it uses less specific terms.
ItssBrian 1 day ago
@ItssBrian The universe isnt closed in.... it's ever expanding?
LovelesEntertainment 3 days ago
@LovelesEntertainment Do you think that ads matter or energy?
ItssBrian 2 days ago
The way you worded it makes absolutely no sense... do you even read your statements?
LovelesEntertainment 2 days ago
@johhnycarlos Aww, are you so afraid of mean old death that you think atheists are cowards? Does ants stop living life and working toward the advancement of their society just because they will eventually die? Are you saying that humans are a weak-willed that fall short of a common insect? Self-defeating my ass... cower in the corner and let the men live life while you tear up afraid of your inevitable demise. I stopped being scared of death around 15.
LovelesEntertainment 3 days ago
This is such a ridiculous video, I don't even know where to start. The questions he is putting forward as the "favourite" creationist arguments are, yes, very stupid. However, you wouldn't expect to hear them from any thinking or even marginally intelligent theists. It's easy to make a video refuting something when you're only taking the very worst of the argument from that side, try harder.
toastyman111 3 days ago
@toastyman111 'any thinking or even marginally intelligent theists'
No such thing.
DocReasonable 3 days ago
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toastyman111 3 days ago
@DocReasonable Nice ignorance, bro :|
toastyman111 3 days ago
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@toastyman111
Ignorance of WHAT, cockhead? What's 'incorrect' about evolution, retard? And God is disproven by both the first AND second laws of thermodynamics.
Isa 13 15-16 'Their CHILDREN also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes, and their WIVES ravished
'Their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child ripped up.' HOS 13
DocReasonable 3 days ago
@toastyman111 And what sort of "logical" argument do you have?
MrCircletwins 3 days ago
@toastyman111 The young earth creationists' weakest argument is that the radioactive decay is not constant (and nuclear plants won't work unless it is constant). This proves that it's been constant for the last 60 yrs. So common sense and the physical laws say it's constant. Saying it's not constant (to fit a young earth) only leads to more problems. It would have to have been accelerated in the past (before the last 60 years) by a factor of at least 750,000 times more intense!
Justwantahover 3 days ago
@toastyman111 The RATE team are (mainstream) rock scientists, dating rock. They go along with the data (but don't believe it) because they are yecs. The rate team are yecs and mainstream scientists (and are highly regarded by other yecs) and so the yecs agree with them. But the RATE team say that the r-decay is reasonably sound (except there was an acceleration, during the flood). So the RATE team are indicating that (if there was no acceleration of r-decay) the world must be old.
Justwantahover 3 days ago
@toastyman111 This is the very worst of cr arguments because they fudge an acceleration to explain the vast difference in earth age. The simple nature of this argument makes common sense debunk it straight-away. So the RATE team scower the rocks (in their spare time) to look for clues of an acceleration. Read "Thousands Not Billions" by Dr Don De Young, Master Books. (p 151-152). I love the RATE team as they make it clear to you that our dating system is sound. Will science believe acceleration?
Justwantahover 3 days ago
@toastyman111 "he is putting forward as the 'favourite' creatioist arguments are yes, very stupid. However, you wouldn't expect to hear them from any thinking or even marginally intelligent theists". (40% don't think) Yecs are't thinking or marginally intelligent.
Justwantahover 2 days ago
@Justwantahover 40%? What figure is that? And I'm not referring to Yecs exclusively, I'm referring to those who in believe in God in general. Even then, there are plenty of Yecs who are a thousand times more intelligent that you, of that I'm sure.
toastyman111 2 days ago
@toastyman111 About 90% are theistic in some way (in America) and about 40% are yecs.
Justwantahover 2 days ago
@toastyman111 You can think, if you are allowed to. Yecs aren't allowed to.
Justwantahover 2 days ago
@Justwantahover Cool opinion, bro.
toastyman111 2 days ago
EPIC!
Akesson1986 3 days ago
I like Kentucky Fried Chicken.
bobby3321 3 days ago
@bobby3321 I like turtles.
last1born313 3 days ago
you argue against god so much it almost makes me think you guys waist your time and effort babbling on about something you don't really believe in
floydstephman 3 days ago
@floydstephman - Hardly. I'm like Jefferson - one god or twenty gods. Makes no difference to me. Until...
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fundamentalist fuckwads want to steal my tax dollars to teach my kids their delusions in science class and rewrite the Constitution to read like Leviticus. The governor of Kentucky wants to pay for a $43 million tax break to a creationist theme park with a $50 million cut to education. Yes, I'll argue against that kind of crap.
47f0 2 days ago
@47f0 Actually your point is the only point worth making here. So, silly this battle to rationalize this whole creator of the universe stuff or not. It was created...get over it. We are trying to find out WHAT did it and we will continue to do that.
rpboulan 2 days ago
@47f0 "the one god or twenty gods. Makes no difference to me. Until..." ("I don't mind what people believe as long as it does not affect me") attitude won't do. Those 93% of leading scientists rejecting the god hypothesis -good- but who are they? Why are they anonymous? They should speak out! We all should! Beliefs held against contrary evidence benefit no one -not the individual; not civilization. Bullshit is bullshit whether it's gay bashing, racism or godbothering. Always Call It!
fctchk 2 days ago
@fctchk evidence is different from proof, just so we are clear. Skid marks on a highway are evidence. They don't prove it was Elvis driving Michael Jackson to McCauley Culkin's house for a sleep over.
curtis12375 2 days ago
@curtis12375 And your point, if there was one?
fctchk 2 days ago
@fctchk - "Always Call It!"
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Why? I'm rather grateful to live in a nation where people can have their own beliefs - until those beliefs based on fantasy affect public policy. Then I'm a loudmouth, but I'm really not interested in being the thought police, and creating a monolithic Borg of identical clone citizens, and I think there is actually some social strength in a certain diversity of thought and the resulting dialogue.
47f0 1 day ago
@47f0 I totally agree with you, how could anyone be an atheist. Especially when they affect public policy so negatively.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
@47f0
Some parents believe that their children's genitals need to be mutilated? Fine. As long, as it does not become public policy and affect my children. And, I'm rather grateful because it shows that thanks to me not being the thought police, I have avoided creating a monolithic society of identical clone citizens who all believe children should not be abused, and I think there is actually some social strength in a certain diversity of thought and the resulting dialogue.
fctchk 1 day ago
@47f0 wait wait theme park you got to be kidding me i'm christian and i even think that's ridiculous
floydstephman 1 day ago
@floydstephman - Okay - but please - always check things out for yourself. "Arks Encounter" theme park, sponsored by Answers in Genesis is getting roughly the same amount in tax breaks that Gov. Steve Beshear is slashing from education..
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But my problem is you. So-called "moderate" people of faith are the platform on which fundamentalists and extremists stand - after all, how is your belief without evidence in any way different from theirs?
47f0 1 day ago
@47f0 I am upset once I read your statement. I agree that education should be cut much deeper. The whole system is a bottomless money pit without any success in teaching. Money does not equal good education in the public sector, kudos to you.
HashPappy4850 1 day ago
No evidence here, just your arguments. Not convincing. Your numbers are are just hotbeds. Thermodynamics? like that's a disproving god. As if you could create life from the hostile, non-living environment of earth 4 billion years ago. What about the current and incorrect teaching of evolution?
LordBlk 3 days ago
@LordBlk Read more books.
195ashes 3 days ago
@LordBlk Papers regarding the origin of life:
tinyurl(dot)com/86ax2ak
tinyurl(dot)com/7rlgpyj
tinyurl(dot)com/752qeka
jez2718 3 days ago
@LordBlk
What's 'incorrect' about evolution, retard? And God is disproven by both the first AND second laws of thermodynamics.
NEXT?
DocReasonable 3 days ago
@LordBlk Why can'y u accept evolution and say God did it. Surely God could do it! So it's Magic but not like; "pow"! there's a cow and "pow"! there's a horse! Which is more feasible?
Justwantahover 3 days ago
You don't get the bible at all you need to read it@Justwantahover
magicgirl114 3 days ago
@magicgirl114
To *get* it youd have to surrender your intellect. Not all of wanna do that, sorry theists
SSJkiller 2 days ago
@SSJkiller Creationists aren't allowed to think!
Justwantahover 2 days ago
@magicgirl114 I belive in science (and that we are bound by the physical laws). I had some faith in Jesus but then I read the Bible and I lost my faith because of all the witchcraft in the Bibie. What physical laws does Aaron's (stick turning into a snake) follow? (Harry Potter laws.)
Justwantahover 2 days ago
2:12 bacon!!???
generalqwer 3 days ago
LMAO
OriginalSin42K 3 days ago
Also if God is so great why can he only have one son?
wadeanddave 3 days ago
@wadeanddave Extreme lack of virgins... ;-)
Exvictus 3 days ago
I don't disagree with anything in this video and did find it entertaining.
Does it prove to me that God doesn't exist?
No, not really.
It does successfully prove that many of my fellow "christians" talk out their ass a lot but I already knew that much. All the same, it's a good video with a good amount of snark with its information.
JayWolf1985 3 days ago
@JayWolf1985 I'll prove to You that God doesn't exist! (just a bit of twisted fun). God can do anything and there is nothing God can't do! This debunks God because it says that God can lie, God can (not exist) and can exist and not exist at the same time!
We are here, therefore God exists. God can't lie, so God is not omnipotent and therefore doesn't exist. So we can now say: God can't lie, so we don't exist!
Justwantahover 3 days ago
@JayWolf1985 What do you think of the yecs and do you think the world is old.
Justwantahover 3 days ago
all of this shit is fucking stupid.
orazdow 3 days ago
@orazdow You are rigth.Creationist are fucking stupid.
Thezaurus17 3 days ago
@Thezaurus17 I agree, and so are these youtube videos from folks who pat themselves on the back for coming to the easiest conclusion in the world, and behaving like they are are taking some impressive intellectual stance by doing it, and that they are "winning" an easy debate with people who are not going to be swayed anyway. It's stupid to occupy yourself with. These videos are just as fucking stupid.
orazdow 2 days ago
@orazdow Yeah, you have point. There are better videos in better channels about topics like this anyway.
Thezaurus17 1 day ago
@orazdow nice argument
aeneas123 3 days ago
@aeneas123 That is my point. Arguing about creationism is setting the bar unbelievably low for yourself. I am an atheist, but I don't identify with it as a stance because it is a useless debate to take part in.
orazdow 2 days ago
@orazdow Yes. But you know, that magic sky daddy you have watching you take showers is pretty cool. All that genocide, pedophilia, rape, slavery, child murder, etc etc. That's some pretty awesome stuff too.
IOutDoSyndicate 3 days ago
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orazdow 2 days ago
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@IOutDoSyndicate No, you don't understand I am an atheist. I just think that congratulating yourself for being on the right side of such an obvious debate, and occupying yourself with watching or making these videos is just as idiotic as believing in creationism. Why not set the bar higher for yourself?
orazdow 2 days ago
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@IOutDoSyndicate No, you don't understand I am an atheist. I just think that congratulating yourself for being on the right side of such an obvious debate, and occupying yourself with watching or making these videos is just as idiotic as believing in creationism. Why not set the bar higher for yourself?
orazdow 2 days ago
I am disheartned by all the Creationist stupidity I see here. Is this a representative slice of the American zeitgeist?
EinSofQuester 3 days ago
@EinSofQuester I would suspect there is a bias towards fundamentalists as they feel confident enough to post their claims. So probably not, hard to tell.
jez2718 3 days ago
Way to twist facts. Just cause you say it doesn't make it true. The only founder in that list that was atheist was Thomas Paine. Ben Franklin believed in God aka deist. Thomas Jefferson was a Unitarian Christian (Only believed in God the Father, not Jesus as God). James Madison, George Washington & John Adams were solidly Christians.
kirbyharris 4 days ago
@kirbyharris "Way to twist facts. Just cause you say it doesn't make it true." you should have stopped there.
crypticnivek 4 days ago
@kirbyharris
"Religions are all alike — founded upon fables and mythologies." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of
clergy." ~ George Washington
crypticnivek 4 days ago