Play him off keyboard cat - Steve Fielding Creationism

[OMGdoggy1]

urgh, he's making Australia seem so stupid in front of such an awesome man, but I love that Richard Dawkins is making him look stupid aswell :)

[katrinalisa2002]

Creation scientist. impossible. 

[roont]

wow that guy did everything he could NOT to answer the questions put to him

[Mogley52]

ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)

[ianchard]

@Mogley52 Your posts are an excellent demonstration of how one can discredit the idea of a bachelor's degree in a few lines of self-referential drivel.

[Mogley52]

SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE, because of entropy, could not have sustained itself eternally. Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)

[youmeusify]

@Mogley52 In fact, the laws of physics predict that entropy will increase both forwards in time AND backwards in time. Therefore, to attempt to highlight the glory and awe pointed to by modern science, with that example, is perhaps not the best choice.

[Mogley52]

NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living, reproducing if their reproductive system, vital structures, and organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.

[Mogley52]

There's no real violation of church/state separation in teaching the scientific arguments for Intelligent Design alongside of macro-evolutionary theory because no one is being forced to believe in God's existence or any religion. Taxpayers on the both sides of the issue pay for public education. It is only fair that scientific arguments and evidence used by both sides be presented.The issue is important because it affects people's lives, their values, philosophy, and worldview.

[ChaseTheDub]

oh shut up Fielding! you are a stupid and embarrassing public mouthpiece for Christianity, stay out of politics,and stop boring the Australian public with your puerile ''Family first'' clap-trap.

If you can't make a forceful and half convincing defence of your faith, then just keep your stupid mouth closed. IDIOT!

[breaneainn]

Only vid featuring Dawkins where he comes close to losing his temper. Embarrassed to be an Aussie.

[megamarsvin]

"I think most Australians.." "Each person will come to their own conclusions" typical weasel words from a weaselly philosophy :D

[nbm953]

Fucking Hilarious! Thank you

[captainghey]

Dawkins and Fielding? Like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

[Dwinetz]

It seems he's not doing better with other topics watch?v=W3yWcrcltpM

[haggidubious]

Fortunately this utter, utter fool is on his way out of our senate. He's poisoned our political scene long enough.

[karlkarlkarl1234]

He can't even pronounce "Creationism" correctly.

[kbanger1986]

You would think that if you were a creationist going onto a debate panel with the leading spokesperson on Atheism in the world you would have your answers to questions like "what do you believe in?..." sorted out. This guy is clearly an idiot who is unfit to have any role in running our country. It is embarrassing to see that we have people in government that are clearly incompetent.

[flyingpigstuff]

Created? 2 parts dumbass and 1 part ego

[Backlumchaam37]

And flying like birds, sharks can detect blood from miles away. we do not even live the longest like turtles etc.

[Backlumchaam37]

If GOD created everything and humans are the peak then why did he give mere animals the bes t and cool stuff, like the best smelling for dogs etc, best seeing for eagles etc, sonar for dolphins, bats etc, that cool camouflage for octopuses etc and many more examples...

[TheFartoholic]

He believes in crayshism

[newfagscanttrif0rce]

Did fielding dieded?

[newfagscanttrif0rce]

He must have studied The Flintstones as a documentary. YABBA DABBA DOO!

[kingtide42]

Fielding has the intelligence of an earthworm.

[arsjth]

Curiously, Dawkins says that he refuses to debate creationists simply because it gives them prestige. Yet, he has gone ahead and debated some creationists while insisting that he would not debate creationists. Since he insists that he will not debate creationists even while debating some,he is obviously picking & choosing those he considers to b easy targets or those who he knows will not effectively counter his evolutionism.

He prefers2debate politicians on matters of science than scientists

[haze555ful]

@arsjth Its not 'his' evolutionism - its evolutionary science - i'm a scientist myself. The science is absolute fact and irrefutable - the evidence is overwhelming. Richard dawkins shouldn't have to debate a thing.

[arsjth]

@haze555ful

nonsense. What is absolute fact? What sort of a scientist are you? A physicist? Mathematician?

Dawkins shouldnt have to debate a thing.....but he constantly picks weak targets. And uses journalists to support his arguments in his books instead of scientists.

If you are supporting dawkins its cos your an atheist not cos you approve of his science.

U think your science is more accurate than ID scientists?

arrogance!

[haze555ful]

@arsjth His evolutionary science is very sound, especially his scientific journals in respect to molecular human evolution. If you have some evidence that debunks the hard evidence then please share it. Oh, that's right you do...God did it...Wooahh that's so scientifically convincing - man you've turned me - I've never been so utterly intellectually managed!

[arsjth]

@haze555ful

"If you have some evidence that debunks the hard evidence then please share it."

you dont have hard evidence....your evidence is hard to believe.

You have conjecture & supposition.

lets test the hard evidence. I will change my beliefs if u can demonstrate any creature morphing into another. lets just go with a simple one. the evolution of the whale.

Lets stick to science...make it repeatable & testable. I will observe what u present gladly.

Hard evidence only please.

[haze555ful]

@arsjth

[inspectormynx]

They should promote his beliefs... they are correct!

FUNNY VIDEO. THAT CAT HAS SOME HOT LICKS ON THE KEYS!

[IricForset]

I never saw the difference between adding another four to six thousand years on to the age of the earth, both are wrong. Its like saying I believe the empire state building is 2 foot high, rather than 1.88 feet high.

[germanicelt]

This is how the ABC works. They have their own agenda, they're on a mission and rig debates in favour of the view they want the public to adopt. That is why they did not have any one on Dawkins level to debate him properly so that he being witty and a good orotor, could walk all over them. They are in effect promoting his beliefs. They could have at least had a creation scientist and a Bible scholar to answer questions properly.

[adamp237]

@germanicelt They had Rabbi Jackie Ninio who is quite the scholar. He walked all over Steve Fielding, but that's hardly the ABC's fault. He is a christian and a senator, one would hope that he has some wit. I don't believe there is an ABC conspiracy where they're trying to trick the public into believing what they want.

[mgo26]

@germanicelt Aw diddums, you mean there's still a media outlet in this country that doesn't spout dumbed down, right-wing bullshit that is essentially a vehicle for advertisers!

[germanicelt]

@mgo26 - and I suppose left-wing is not into business?

[mikeoxenfire]

@germanicelt Good luck finding any creationists who are on Dawkin's level. This panel was made up of some of the most influential people from both sides of the debate, what more can you expect from the ABC? Steve Fielding's stupidity is just representative of the intelligence of most religious fundamentalist christians anyway.

[germanicelt]

@mikeoxenfire - Thank you for showing me just what a bunch of wannabe's your type are.

"This panel was made up of some of the most influential people from both sides of the debate"

??????????? - are you a moron or something. How on earth could you call some politicians "influential" people on this topic. Try again.

Funny how Islam was rarely mentioned. Just a typical 'lets pick on Christianity'.

[mikeoxenfire]

@germanicelt lol! sorry maybe I should have mentioned what the "topic" actually was - my mistake for assuming you had actually watched the show. The issue of religion's place in schools was discussed in quite some depth, and as a religious senator who holds the balance of power Steve Fielding is quite obviously influential when it comes to Government policy.

[arsjth]

@germanicelt

precisely the point.

The ABC has an official position which they promote.....there is no debate.

Did someone say climate change?

i thought i heard the greatest moral dilemma of our life time mentioned.

[nakedapedude]

@germanicelt

It's pretty easy to walk all over your opposition in debate when your opposition believes in fairytales and has absolutely no evidence supporting their position.

There's no such thing as a creation scientist, scientists do science, creationists don't, the two positions are mutually exclusive.

[zacky89]

@germanicelt

Please tell me your kidding

a creation scientist

is there something called that ?

[up2trix]

@germanicelt dude, he was the only atheist on the panel. it was stacked against him if anything.

[gameboypen]

@germanicelt would you also opt for an astrologist when an astronomer comes on. or possibly and alchemist when a chemist does. and of course you need a witch doctor when you have a medical one.

Creationism isn't a position that should even be granted equal footing.

[sedatedcoho]

@germanicelt

Having a creation "scientist" or scholar on the program would have only made the difference in making nonsense arguments APPEAR as though they are legitimate in the same way many politicans do given they are good speakers. However, one can be a great oratory all they want but in relation to creationism the evidence just isn't there. There lies a mountain of evidence behind the theory of evolution and if one suggests otherwise - without proving so - is ignorant and deluded.

[newfagscanttrif0rce]

@germanicelt

There is no such thing as 'creation science', there is only 'creation ignorance'.

[brentyesm]

@newfagscanttrif0rce acctually there is lol

[germanicelt]

@galapagos68... So funny how you atheist communist control freaks call any opposition to you "right wing". I suppose being so far on the left , any conservative view is right of yours, but doesn't mean it's right wing. Secondly, a creation scientist is simply a scientist who believes the origin of the universe was created. These people do exist. Evolution is an assumption, don't try and make out it's anything more. Last, the issues here were not political, they were philosophical.

[elephantmang]

@germanicelt Funny how you call anything to the left of you Communism. "Conservative" and "right wing" are synonyms. A "creation scientist" is a creationist, "creation science" is as much science as the DPRK is a democracy. There are plenty of real scientists who believe God created the universe. Evolution isn't an assumption, it is a rigorous scientific theory with a giant body of supporting evidence.Fielding's shitty belief system IS his politics. How does it feel to be wrong about everything?

[WillsMP92]

@germanicelt

You raise an interesting point, but the notion of an ABC conspiracy seems to sideline the fact that all beliefs and opinions should be held to account. This setting creationists against athiests is designed to challenge the beliefs of viewers, and look, even if the end result was Creationism being annihlated, you can't feasibly prove that this was the intention. He's a politician: He should be answerable to the beliefs that permeate through his policy.

[WillsMP92]

@germanicelt

You raise an interesting point, but the notion of an ABC conspiracy seems to sideline the fact that all beliefs and opinions should be held to account. This setting creationists against athiests is designed to challenge the beliefs of viewers, and look, even if the end result was Creationism being annihlated, you can't feasibly prove that this was the intention. He's a politician: He should be answerable to the beliefs that permeate through his policy.

[tooyjfwn]

@germanicelt Theres no such thing you complete and utter Fuckwit

[karlkarlkarl1234]

@germanicelt

"That is why they did not have any one on Dawkins level."

There is no creationist out there on Dawkin's level. In fact I am yet to come across a Creationist who actually even knows what evolution is and the mechanisms behind it and the basic scientific education to understand it.

Creationism has no basis in reality, nor science, so of course they're not going to waste their time telling the audience Bronze Age fairy tales.

Moron.

[MrJohnnyrace]

@germanicelt Creationism is junk science. It doesnt deserve any time.

[jazzx251]

did Stephen Fielding died?

[I've never understood that phrase after a keyboard cat video either]

[adamp237]

@jazzx251 oh good. Because I don't either. :)

[jazzx251]

Maybe Dawkins knows.

He did invent the word "meme" after all.

[twholland1]

Well done KC, well done in deed.

[Gflopper]

He's too gutless to admit it. This guy is a prize idiot. Religious beliefs aside, he holds the balance of power in the Senate and has made some utterly brain-dead decisions. He got his senate seat in 2004 because of the stupidity of the Labor apparatchiks who directed voting preferences away from the Greens. He himself received less than 2% of the votes.

'Brain-dead' is apt.

[amewsing]

Wow. The phrase "brain-dead politician" really doesn't do this guy justice.

[jazzx251]

Well deserving of keyboard cat.

Although that cat would have to be ready to play for the whole hour, because Fielding wasn't the only moron on the panel.

[arsjth]

@jazzx251

" Fielding wasn't the only moron on the panel."

True...Dawkins was right next to him

[ManOnTheMoon09]

'What a cool cat! LOL

[sylviabombs15]

lol i like the part with the keyboard cat